3 Exercises For A Strong/Aesthetic Physique
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asflatasapancake wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?!
pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
Oyyyyy........please read the community guidelines if you're unsure of what one is.....
LOL I cannot believe she said I am not white. Where was the word knight that follows the word white?
Should we be talking about this? Are we allowed to? It is interesting how a black knight is bad and a white night is good. Not trying to make this into a racial debate.
LOL
Makes statement about the PCness (or not) about talking about race, but says he doesn't want to talk about race.
It's kind of a nod to Seinfeld.
Who was kind of a jerk.
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Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white
Ok, I'm Italian ..
I'm German/ Irish/ Hungarian. What do I win?0 -
MamaBirdBoss wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »Can't do 1 and 3 with my trashed shoulders. LOL.
I adore calf raises. Those, it doesn't matter too much if you have a machine or freeweights because the ROM is so small, but throw on 400+ pounds, and I feel like a rockstar....lol!
on the sitting down calf raise free weight machine?
Depended on the weight room. I have a metabolic muscle disorder, so I get weirdly strong for a girl in certain ways. It's mostly useless, but it's fun for that.
I would occasionally load up a bar and do it free weights, but honestly, above 300lbs, it REALLY hurts my shoulders, even with a towel, so I preferred the machines. (You can tell me how wrong I was. I was just dorking around.)
One weight room had this one: http://bodybuilding-wizard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/standing-machine-calf-raise.png
I REALLY preferred to abuse the leg press machine, though, over that because there was less pressure on my shoulders, which was available in the main weight room at our high school: https://gettingbetterstrongerfaster.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/leg-press.jpg
I only had access to a "proper" calf raise machine much later: http://incredibody.com/images/psc43x.jpg
I honestly can't remember how much I was throwing on the last at the time. 3x45 per side was super easy even after baby #1 (and a long weightlifting break). Calf raises are like my "stupid human trick."
I know someone in particular in this form who would love the effect you have from that. Not too sure of the disadvantages.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »Can't do 1 and 3 with my trashed shoulders. LOL.
I adore calf raises. Those, it doesn't matter too much if you have a machine or freeweights because the ROM is so small, but throw on 400+ pounds, and I feel like a rockstar....lol!
on the sitting down calf raise free weight machine?
Depended on the weight room. I have a metabolic muscle disorder, so I get weirdly strong for a girl in certain ways. It's mostly useless, but it's fun for that.
I would occasionally load up a bar and do it free weights, but honestly, above 300lbs, it REALLY hurts my shoulders, even with a towel, so I preferred the machines. (You can tell me how wrong I was. I was just dorking around.)
One weight room had this one: http://bodybuilding-wizard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/standing-machine-calf-raise.png
I REALLY preferred to abuse the leg press machine, though, over that because there was less pressure on my shoulders, which was available in the main weight room at our high school: https://gettingbetterstrongerfaster.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/leg-press.jpg
I only had access to a "proper" calf raise machine much later: http://incredibody.com/images/psc43x.jpg
I honestly can't remember how much I was throwing on the last at the time. 3x45 per side was super easy even after baby #1 (and a long weightlifting break). Calf raises are like my "stupid human trick."
I know someone in particular in this form who would love the effect you have from that. Not too sure of the disadvantages.
Most metabolic disorder completely suck. They're due to mitochondrial disfunction, and mitochondria provide energy for your cells. Usually, if you have a metabolic disorder you have very little energy. Definitely not worth the trade of if that is the case...0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »And...um, I'm a butt girl.
"Huge capped delts" are something gym bros love. Women like aesthetics over bulk. And nice legs and butt are...mmm. LOL.
And...dude...we had the same max for squats! How cute is that??? I did 350 back in high school. Scared the pee out of me (no one there could spot me, and we didn't have proper power racks) so I mostly stuck with high reps at 250 instead--3x12. My thighs were 19.5". So I'm not sure why yours had so much hypertrophy for so little weight.
250 @ 3x12 in hs??????
Yep. Started lifting 2x per week in middle school. Could out-lift the shot putt girls. Started coming in over the summer for fun in high school because it was something I was actually good at for a change. It would be me....and the football team, who was required to be there over the summer. I never got very strong in the upper body. Not even when I took weightlifting as a class. I only benched like 95x1. And incline press--my shoulder clicked. Ugh. It hurt. Overhead press, even MORE pathetic. 55 or 65 was my max ever--I forget which. I was very frustrated by that.
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Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white
Ok, I'm Italian ..
I'm German/ Irish/ Hungarian. What do I win?
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Looking at old photos of me is pretty hilarious. My waist was 23.5", but my thighs were 19.5", so I had this sort of bowlegged thing going on. Not the sexiest, but whatever. It was fun. 0
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MamaBirdBoss wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »And...um, I'm a butt girl.
"Huge capped delts" are something gym bros love. Women like aesthetics over bulk. And nice legs and butt are...mmm. LOL.
And...dude...we had the same max for squats! How cute is that??? I did 350 back in high school. Scared the pee out of me (no one there could spot me, and we didn't have proper power racks) so I mostly stuck with high reps at 250 instead--3x12. My thighs were 19.5". So I'm not sure why yours had so much hypertrophy for so little weight.
250 @ 3x12 in hs??????
Yep. Started lifting 2x per week in middle school. Could out-lift the shot putt girls. Started coming in over the summer for fun in high school because it was something I was actually good at for a change. It would be me....and the football team, who was required to be there over the summer. I never got very strong in the upper body. Not even when I took weightlifting as a class. I only benched like 95x1. And incline press--my shoulder clicked. Ugh. It hurt. Overhead press, even MORE pathetic. 55 or 65 was my max ever--I forget which. I was very frustrated by that.
LOVED the lower body exercises, though.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE!!! Do you have to happen have any videos uploaded to YouTube by chance??? My gut tells me no..... but I had to ask!!!
the 250lb Squats 3x12 that is.....not your bench....
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MamaBirdBoss wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »And...um, I'm a butt girl.
"Huge capped delts" are something gym bros love. Women like aesthetics over bulk. And nice legs and butt are...mmm. LOL.
And...dude...we had the same max for squats! How cute is that??? I did 350 back in high school. Scared the pee out of me (no one there could spot me, and we didn't have proper power racks) so I mostly stuck with high reps at 250 instead--3x12. My thighs were 19.5". So I'm not sure why yours had so much hypertrophy for so little weight.
250 @ 3x12 in hs??????
Yep. Started lifting 2x per week in middle school. Could out-lift the shot putt girls. Started coming in over the summer for fun in high school because it was something I was actually good at for a change. It would be me....and the football team, who was required to be there over the summer. I never got very strong in the upper body. Not even when I took weightlifting as a class. I only benched like 95x1. And incline press--my shoulder clicked. Ugh. It hurt. Overhead press, even MORE pathetic. 55 or 65 was my max ever--I forget which. I was very frustrated by that.
LOVED the lower body exercises, though.
Middle school. Wow I see you didn't listen to the stunt your growth myth then.
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LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
Gotcha, so that constitutes body shaming. I've got to say, while it is a generalization... I've never once come across a female that has favored a pancake behind on a man. Willing to bet if a poll was put in place (especially on this site) pancake would not prevail.
No, describing a body part with a negative term would be body shaming. Putting up a poll using the word pancake as a descriptor would make the poll also body shaming.
It's not hard. Don't speak for most people and dont use pejoratives. Or do and wear the mantle of know it all body shamer proudly.
What about underdeveloped versus developed? Does underdeveloped still hold a negative connotation?
It's all about connotation. I think you're smart enough to see when it is and when it's not. White knighting can sometimes blind people to the obvious however.
speaking of white knights...
how is the view from that ivory tower???
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LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
Gotcha, so that constitutes body shaming. I've got to say, while it is a generalization... I've never once come across a female that has favored a pancake behind on a man. Willing to bet if a poll was put in place (especially on this site) pancake would not prevail.
No, describing a body part with a negative term would be body shaming. Putting up a poll using the word pancake as a descriptor would make the poll also body shaming.
It's not hard. Don't speak for most people and dont use pejoratives. Or do and wear the mantle of know it all body shamer proudly.
What about underdeveloped versus developed? Does underdeveloped still hold a negative connotation?
It's all about connotation. I think you're smart enough to see when it is and when it's not. White knighting can sometimes blind people to the obvious however.
speaking of white knights...
how is the view from that ivory tower???
Keep deflecting. It's argueing the point well.
That White Knight Kite Shield tho0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
Oyyyyy........please read the community guidelines if you're unsure of what one is.....
LOL I cannot believe she said I am not white. Where was the word knight that follows the word white?
Should we be talking about this? Are we allowed to? It is interesting how a black knight is bad and a white night is good. Not trying to make this into a racial debate.
LOL
Makes statement about the PCness (or not) about talking about race, but says he doesn't want to talk about race.
It's kind of a nod to Seinfeld.
Who was kind of a jerk.
Pffff. He made his reputation and living by being one. That show really had no likable characters.
I mean, look at a show like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. The characters are all horrible horrible people. The only one who is not a totally selfish jerk is Charlie. And, well, LOL, Charlie. They ARE entertaining selfish jerks. On TV.0 -
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Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white
Ok, I'm Italian ..
I'm German/ Irish/ Hungarian. What do I win?
A banana muffin.
I think I'd rather have an Egg McMuffin.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »Can't do 1 and 3 with my trashed shoulders. LOL.
I adore calf raises. Those, it doesn't matter too much if you have a machine or freeweights because the ROM is so small, but throw on 400+ pounds, and I feel like a rockstar....lol!
on the sitting down calf raise free weight machine?
Depended on the weight room. I have a metabolic muscle disorder, so I get weirdly strong for a girl in certain ways. It's mostly useless, but it's fun for that.
I would occasionally load up a bar and do it free weights, but honestly, above 300lbs, it REALLY hurts my shoulders, even with a towel, so I preferred the machines. (You can tell me how wrong I was. I was just dorking around.)
One weight room had this one: http://bodybuilding-wizard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/standing-machine-calf-raise.png
I REALLY preferred to abuse the leg press machine, though, over that because there was less pressure on my shoulders, which was available in the main weight room at our high school: https://gettingbetterstrongerfaster.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/leg-press.jpg
I only had access to a "proper" calf raise machine much later: http://incredibody.com/images/psc43x.jpg
I honestly can't remember how much I was throwing on the last at the time. 3x45 per side was super easy even after baby #1 (and a long weightlifting break). Calf raises are like my "stupid human trick."
I know someone in particular in this form who would love the effect you have from that. Not too sure of the disadvantages.
Lessee...
Myotonia and myalgia are the biggest.
I have the WORLD'S LOWEST lactate threshold. I trained my butt off your YEARS, and my best my ever mile was a pitiful 7:21 because of it. I've learned just this month that I can run INTERVALS practically forever in comparison. I've never actually felt my muscles TIRE OUT on a run before. It happened a little today. It was crazy and wonderful! (Due to doing intervals with correct recoveries.) I've also never had runs not be painful. To run without feeling like my muscles are being set on fire at a low burn the entire time is really amazing and novel to me. LOL.
But that doesn't mean that my fast-twitch muscles were good, either. I ran sprints no faster than the shot putt girls!!! (Keep in mind that I was 5'6" and 123lbs soaking wet!) And I was TRYING. My muscles...just don't go that fast!
I also have join instability and RIDICULOUSLY long healing times from muscular injury. A sprain will ache for the next 10+ years.
In addition, if I don't get the proper amounts of exercise, I'll develop fun side effects like nerve impingement, neuropathy, neuralgia, fasciculations, and parathesia.
I also have a slightly embarrassing action tremor. It mostly shows up in a way that other people notice when I'm tired. But people think I'm scared or nervous when it happens.
But like I said...stupid human tricks. LOL. I'm good at those!0 -
When the riding mower got stuck, even at my most out of shape, I could pick up one end and just move it. After a couple of weeks doing remodeling, I could carry sheetrock and plywood on my own without any particular effort, too. So my upper body isn't totally useless. Just not going to really impress anyone.0
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MamaBirdBoss wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »Can't do 1 and 3 with my trashed shoulders. LOL.
I adore calf raises. Those, it doesn't matter too much if you have a machine or freeweights because the ROM is so small, but throw on 400+ pounds, and I feel like a rockstar....lol!
on the sitting down calf raise free weight machine?
Depended on the weight room. I have a metabolic muscle disorder, so I get weirdly strong for a girl in certain ways. It's mostly useless, but it's fun for that.
I would occasionally load up a bar and do it free weights, but honestly, above 300lbs, it REALLY hurts my shoulders, even with a towel, so I preferred the machines. (You can tell me how wrong I was. I was just dorking around.)
One weight room had this one: http://bodybuilding-wizard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/standing-machine-calf-raise.png
I REALLY preferred to abuse the leg press machine, though, over that because there was less pressure on my shoulders, which was available in the main weight room at our high school: https://gettingbetterstrongerfaster.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/leg-press.jpg
I only had access to a "proper" calf raise machine much later: http://incredibody.com/images/psc43x.jpg
I honestly can't remember how much I was throwing on the last at the time. 3x45 per side was super easy even after baby #1 (and a long weightlifting break). Calf raises are like my "stupid human trick."
I know someone in particular in this form who would love the effect you have from that. Not too sure of the disadvantages.
Lessee...
Myotonia and myalgia are the biggest.
I have the WORLD'S LOWEST lactate threshold. I trained my butt off your YEARS, and my best my ever mile was a pitiful 7:21 because of it. I've learned just this month that I can run INTERVALS practically forever in comparison. I've never actually felt my muscles TIRE OUT on a run before. It happened a little today. It was crazy and wonderful! (Due to doing intervals with correct recoveries.) I've also never had runs not be painful. To run without feeling like my muscles are being set on fire at a low burn the entire time is really amazing and novel to me. LOL.
But that doesn't mean that my fast-twitch muscles were good, either. I ran sprints no faster than the shot putt girls!!! (Keep in mind that I was 5'6" and 123lbs soaking wet!) And I was TRYING. My muscles...just don't go that fast!
I also have join instability and RIDICULOUSLY long healing times from muscular injury. A sprain will ache for the next 10+ years.
In addition, if I don't get the proper amounts of exercise, I'll develop fun side effects like nerve impingement, neuropathy, neuralgia, fasciculations, and parathesia.
I also have a slightly embarrassing action tremor. It mostly shows up in a way that other people notice when I'm tired. But people think I'm scared or nervous when it happens.
But like I said...stupid human tricks. LOL. I'm good at those!
I found that fascinating after I google a bunch of words in this comment.
I see why you started weight training early. It makes sense. Did you figure all of this out as a child?
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LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
To be fair, the thread title is "Strong Aesthetic Physique". She is stating what she finds aesthetically pleasing, and I don't know anyone with a "pancake" behind that had a strong lower body.
To be fair, she claimed to speak for the aesthetic likes of 'most women'.
Gotcha, so that constitutes body shaming. I've got to say, while it is a generalization... I've never once come across a female that has favored a pancake behind on a man. Willing to bet if a poll was put in place (especially on this site) pancake would not prevail.
No, describing a body part with a negative term would be body shaming. Putting up a poll using the word pancake as a descriptor would make the poll also body shaming.
It's not hard. Don't speak for most people and dont use pejoratives. Or do and wear the mantle of know it all body shamer proudly.
What about underdeveloped versus developed? Does underdeveloped still hold a negative connotation?
It's all about connotation. I think you're smart enough to see when it is and when it's not. White knighting can sometimes blind people to the obvious however.
speaking of white knights...
how is the view from that ivory tower???
Keep deflecting. It's argueing the point well.
That White Knight Kite Shield tho
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Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »
I am not whiteTherealobi1 wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »gtmfitness wrote: »Wow......After coming back to my computer I did not expect to see so many notifications.
And I already guessed it....90% of them are saying to squat.
Listen......I used to squat. A lot actually.
The most I have ever squatted was 350lbs for 2 reps. Is that breaking records? No of course not. But I was happy with it at the time.
But when I looked in the mirror I was not happy with that I saw.
skipping to the point...
My legs were too big....IN MY OPINION goodness I can't even express my own opinion here.
Anyway they:
chaffed together
I had stretch marks on my hips, thighs, and butt
I looked funny in nice jeans or dress pants
I didn't like it and had the damn courage to chill on squats even though "everyone" says to do them
They are a fantastic exercise for adding leg mass. I am not denying that.
But I see fitness as a tool to enhance my life. So I am going to use the exercises I know will produce the body I want. Shoot I only train 3 hours a week haha. (can't wait to hear the comments on this one!)
I am not training for bodybuilding....I am not training for a physique competition. I train to be strong, look good, and in a way that does not interfere with my lifestyle. Because I would much rather be doing other things than living in the gym or kitchen.
Okay sparky- the big problem is is that you came in here trying to give advice to people on stuff- and the reality is you kind of gave shoddy advice and purposefully chose to move away from an exercise (god lord why i have no idea but whatever to each their own) but to blatantly just disregard your ENTIRE lower body in your "3 exercises for a strong aesthetic physique" post- is ridiculous.
70% of your mass is made up in "lower body" (meaning legs and trunk) which are effectively and efficiently trained by squats and deads.
Secondly to come in here and say- well it's for males not for females- that's *kitten* sexist and ignorant.
No one gives a crap how long you train- Honestly: 3 x 60 min sessions is MORE than adequate for someone who has a decent base- so you're over thinking our estimation of what is required to maintain a body. Did I mention no one gives a crap about that?
But you can't just stroll in and give off the cuff highly sexists advise because YOU have chosen to ignore your lower body- that's BAD.
I do almost NO direct upper body work and I have a solid lat spread-big 3 have done a really great job for that and selecting over all exercise instead of isolations has served me well.
Teaching newbs big compound lifts and steering them away from complicated unnecessary for them isolations is generally better than telling them to avoid all lower body.
And finally- I effing HATE when guys go- squats and nice a$$es are for girls. seriously- it's stupid.
DUDES LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO YOU. MOST GIRLS DO NOT WANT A GUY WITH A PANCAKE A%%.
(edit- for spelling and things)
I think this might have struck a nerve. Well said. Only, do you have something against pancakes?
LOL No, pancakes are delicious!!!! (especially with big ripe blueberries in them!!!!
But they belong on my plate and I want to eat them. Pancake *kitten*- do not want on my plate and I do not want to eat them. It was funny- I was at my old gym once- and these two gangly teenagers were complaining about squats and I was literally right there and I was like WHY- squats are great. And they were like not really... 'but- butts are great' - nah- that's for girls.
I just looked at them- here a woman way out of their "league" if you will was telling them she liked a nice *kitten* and they were disagreeing with me!!! I was like DUDE THIS IS LIFE ADVISE HERE!!! HOW YOU GONNA IGNORE THE HOT GIRL TELLING YOU WHAT SHE LIKES!!!!
I want to be able to slap a nice *kitten* too. why is that a guy only thing?!?!?! pout pout
I'm going to start a group I think- He Squats Bro- so I can fully objectify and oogle man butt- because a good perky squat man butt is a beautiful thing.
Why so much flat butt shaming? Why do so many people think they can speak for the majority?
'Most women don't like pancake assses,' sounds an awful lot like, "most men prefer curves to bones.'
The word 'bones' is used to disparage thin women just as 'pancake' was used by you to disparage men with less developed or genetically smaller Hineys. OP was full of bad info and needed correcting (which you did nicely early on) but there's no reason to swing that big sword of self righteousness and wind up cutting far more people than just your intended target.
you must be a blast at parties...
The horse in which she rode in on, is quite too high for her to descend from........
Why because she has an opinion different to yours. How dare she
Nope, she's entitled to her opinion as am I. The way in which she is parading around this thread is something to be desired by many........
I see her white knight has come to rescue her!!!
....and your point is??
The point is I am not white
Ok, I'm Italian ..
I'm German/ Irish/ Hungarian. What do I win?
A banana muffin.
I think I'd rather have an Egg McMuffin.
I'm off to go do my squats
Not squats!!.....isn't that dangerous, lol. 0 -
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I thought so too, and then I read it and saw all ridiculousness in this thread. So I will lock it. Too much drama which violate:
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