I called oatmeal cookies unhealthy and I got blasted - why?
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enterdanger wrote: »ugh. something about beards and motor boating that just don't mix for me.
It's like a cleavage broom.0 -
http://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/old-fashioned-oatmeal-raisin-cookies/5fc2dae2-73b3-4440-957f-f409ecdff3fa
I have made these a hundreds of times and they are very good. I think it's the molasses that makes them special0 -
when I read your words while looking at your avatar, I feel like you are very proud of what you just said. lol.
Edited to add, this was meant for @tincanonastring0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »enterdanger wrote: »ugh. something about beards and motor boating that just don't mix for me.
It's like a cleavage broom.
baw ha ha ha ha ha hysterical.
my man had to shave his soul patch off- I was deeply upset by this.
I do like me a touch of facial hair LOL
Also @queenliz99 holy crap those look good!!!0 -
enterdanger wrote: »when I read your words while looking at your avatar, I feel like you are very proud of what you just said. lol.
Edited to add, this was meant for @tincanonastring
It's like you know me on a spiritual level!0 -
racist.WinoGelato wrote: »ldrosophila wrote: »It can be more healthful in terms of nutrients, but food is not black and white. S
Oh yeah??? What about THIS!? That looks pretty black and white to me!
moving on- why has no one addressed the fact that oats don't belong in cookies- it's more butter- and more chocolate chips. but not oats.
This is a very good point...
also peanut butter...0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »enterdanger wrote: »ugh. something about beards and motor boating that just don't mix for me.
It's like a cleavage broom.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »
racist.WinoGelato wrote: »ldrosophila wrote: »It can be more healthful in terms of nutrients, but food is not black and white. S
Oh yeah??? What about THIS!? That looks pretty black and white to me!
moving on- why has no one addressed the fact that oats don't belong in cookies- it's more butter- and more chocolate chips. but not oats.
This is a very good point...
also peanut butter...
cosign.
Coworker was telling my boss how to make some sort of nutella filled cookies. As I really don't like nutella- I wasn't interested- but it involved plopping dollops of nutella on wax paper and freezing them. Sounded like a crap load of work- but tasty at the end!0 -
Chocolate chip is the only cookie I officially recognize. All those other types are just what one eats when the chocolate chip cookies run out - not that I have a problem with those others. As a matter of fact, some of them are almost as good as chocolate chip. Almost. However, there is a particularly evil type of oatmeal cookie that has raisins in it ... looks like a chocolate chip cookie, but what a bitter bitter disappointment. Tastes like betrayal
These Totally Chocolate Chocolate Chip Cookies are truly "chocolatey to the point of madness." In fact, there is so much chocolate that I leave off 1 C of chips so I can add walnuts. I only cook what we are going to eat that day and hide the rest in my freezer.
http://www.nigella.com/recipes/view/totally-chocolate-chocolate-chip-cookies-290 -
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oatmeal cookies unhealthy? lollllll I think I have the dirtiest diet ever in mfp history!
basically is either eat clean or stuff your face with junk? On the scale of one to even.. I just can't
seriously clean diet people get all the time their own threads and I respect that, I demand a thread for the proud dirty eater crowd soon #WhereAreYouPeople?0 -
oatmeal cookies unhealthy? lollllll I think I have the dirtiest diet ever in mfp history!
basically is either eat clean or stuff your face with junk? On the scale of one to even.. I just can't
seriously clean diet people get all the time their own threads and I respect that, I demand a thread for the proud dirty eater crowd soon #WhereAreYouPeople?
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tincanonastring wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »
I can say one unfair advantage you have is the beard. Any crumbs or cookie pieces which miss your piehole you can comb them out and try again. And, yes, this thread is disturbing. I may need to visit 'the inner aisles of hell' tonight to grab some cookies. Be proud people. . . . . be so very proud!tincanonastring wrote: »Great job guys. Now I've switched from moderation to a cookie monster and it's all your fault. Stupid cookie conversation. WHY DO YOU ALL TRY TO SABOTAGE MY DIET?!?!?!?
Boobs. there are boobs for that. sorry not sorry.
I'm doubly cursed. Between my beard and the calories I inhale while motor boating my wife, I'll never lose weight!
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Oh so you eat the cookie crumbs off of your beard and then use the milk to dunk it!0 -
Guess I should have asked which size can you useenterdanger wrote: »debsdoingthis wrote: »
Great, now I need to stop on the way home and buy a chocolate cake mix LOL!! My can of pumpkin puree was just sitting there getting dusty.enterdanger wrote: »I have an oatmeal protein pancake that has replaced our regular recipe. It includes oatmeal flour, pumpkin puree, and protein powder. We have it with Greek Yogurt and fruit.
I would love that recipe if you are willing to share it!
I have a whole can of pumpkin puree at home and I was trying to decide what to do with it.
That's a lot healthier than what I do to get my kids to eat pumpkin. I mix 1 can of pumpkin puree with 1 tbsp of pumpkin pie spice and a box of white cake mix. Then I bake it in mini muffin tins. You can do the same with pumpkin and a box of chocolate cake mix and it makes chocolate muffins. I like to include peanut butter chips in the chocolate one.
at least you can be proud you are eating vegan or something. lol. My husband is lactose intolerant so it's awesome when I can make a baked good with no dairy or butter. Plus anything with only 2 ingredients is rad.
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The 15oz can0
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Oh hey, how do you guys call those? We call them Americans.WinoGelato wrote: »ldrosophila wrote: »It can be more healthful in terms of nutrients, but food is not black and white. S
Oh yeah??? What about THIS!? That looks pretty black and white to me!
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ldrosophila wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »
I can say one unfair advantage you have is the beard. Any crumbs or cookie pieces which miss your piehole you can comb them out and try again. And, yes, this thread is disturbing. I may need to visit 'the inner aisles of hell' tonight to grab some cookies. Be proud people. . . . . be so very proud!tincanonastring wrote: »Great job guys. Now I've switched from moderation to a cookie monster and it's all your fault. Stupid cookie conversation. WHY DO YOU ALL TRY TO SABOTAGE MY DIET?!?!?!?
Boobs. there are boobs for that. sorry not sorry.
I'm doubly cursed. Between my beard and the calories I inhale while motor boating my wife, I'll never lose weight!
Oh so you eat the cookie crumbs off of your beard and then use the milk to dunk it!
Yeah, that's it!
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I would love that recipe if you are willing to share it! I have a whole can of pumpkin puree at home and I was trying to decide what to do with it.
Here you go:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/361132463845704988/
I don't make it as paleo as the originator, replacing half the oat flour with wheat. It improves the durability of the pancake somewhat.
Thanks!0 -
loeylovesyou wrote: »You can't call a food good or bad... It's different for each person and what their health goals are.
Sure cookies include flour, sugar, butter, etc. and yes in the wrong portions all of these ingredients can be 'bad' for you, but it's all about the portion size and how often you are consuming it.
My daily goal includes 45% carbs, 35% protein and 20% sugar. If I choose to have a cookie I know I'm consuming carbs and sugar, but those are not things I CAN'T have.. They are things I need to have in portions...
Don't beat yourself up over a cookie... Being that you have issues with portion control, I'd say stay away from the cookies, but if you can get yourself to commit to just one once in a while then I don't see anything wrong with that
Sugar is a carb......0 -
stevencloser wrote: »
Oh hey, how do you guys call those? We call them Americans.WinoGelato wrote: »ldrosophila wrote: »It can be more healthful in terms of nutrients, but food is not black and white. S
Oh yeah??? What about THIS!? That looks pretty black and white to me!
I always just called them black and white cookies. Google returned a lot of images for it so I think I'm not alone in that!
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oatmeal cookies unhealthy? lollllll I think I have the dirtiest diet ever in mfp history!
basically is either eat clean or stuff your face with junk? On the scale of one to even.. I just can't
seriously clean diet people get all the time their own threads and I respect that, I demand a thread for the proud dirty eater crowd soon #WhereAreYouPeople?
Waves vigorously... hi! Hi! Hi!
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ldrosophila wrote: »raelynnsmama52512 wrote: »ldrosophila wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »ldrosophila wrote: »food cannot be healthy it cannot have a state of being. well or ill It can be more healthful in terms of nutrients, but food is not black and white. Sugar supply calories, flour supplies b vitamins, protein, and carbohydrates, raisins provide iron, oatmeal fiber, chocolate excellent source of Mg, butter fatty acids even the antivral like butyric acid. You combine that it provides a great source of our macronutrients and some of the micronutrients we need in a day.
Get outta here with that rational analysis nonsense and that bull**** healthy relationship with food. What kind of place do you think this is?!?
Youre right cookies bad, evil and demonic and broccoli is the Messiah of food oh hail broccoli
Broccoli? When the hell did we change to broccoli?
Granted, if we're all on the broccoli bandwagon now, I'll take all of it, roasted with garlic and olive oil, thank you! :laugh:
Um you know olive oil has fat in it right? Remember Susan Powers from the 90's fat makes you fat! Good job making broccoli sin.
Well, I am known as the go-to person if you want anyone or anything to be corrupted so....
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tincanonastring wrote: »Great job guys. Now I've switched from moderation to a cookie monster and it's all your fault. Stupid cookie conversation. WHY DO YOU ALL TRY TO SABOTAGE MY DIET?!?!?!?
Yes, my plan is working.
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CharonCharon wrote: »I stated they had butter, white sugar, flour, chocolate chips, ect.
I consider all these things unhealthy.
But a couple of people say everything is healthy.
Is my wording wrong?
What would be unhealthy to those people in a cookie?
BTW - I like to eat in volumes.
I have never been able to do portion control in my entire life.
Oatmeal is a food I can eat and be full and be happy without guilt.
Because you can not determine a foods value without looking at it in context of the overall diet.
Example, a couple of cookies as a treat, with the rest of the diet consisting of nutrient dense whole foods IMO would be fine. As apposed to a few nutrient dense whole foods with the rest of the diet consisting of cookies...
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stevencloser wrote: »
Oh hey, how do you guys call those? We call them Americans.WinoGelato wrote: »ldrosophila wrote: »It can be more healthful in terms of nutrients, but food is not black and white. S
Oh yeah??? What about THIS!? That looks pretty black and white to me!
They are called Amerikaner in Germany.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »If we've moved past cookies and into alternative uses for oats... I give you the amazing blueberry crumble recipe that I have made the last two weekends in my cast iron skillet...
http://natashaskitchen.com/2014/06/01/blueberry-crumble-recipe-extra-blueberries-le-creuset-giveaway/
I love crumbles. I am an oat fan anyway, but crumbles ARE the best and highest use of them.
I'm going to have to try this one.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »
Oh hey, how do you guys call those? We call them Americans.WinoGelato wrote: »ldrosophila wrote: »It can be more healthful in terms of nutrients, but food is not black and white. S
Oh yeah??? What about THIS!? That looks pretty black and white to me!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_white_cookie0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »MFP has a... thing about this. I have never seen a diet and fitness site like this before. People get criticized for avoiding excess sugar, junk food, highly processed items, etc. I may very occasionally permit myself such an item, but I'm not going to pretend it's *healthy* AKA high in nutrients, because it isn't! Folks will equate the "processing" of placing fruit or vegetables in a bag with the processing of mashing things to a pulp, adding a ton of preservatives, artificial flavors and salt, and frying it. To avoid criticism, the only thing to do is to eat healthy for your own sake but never mention it anywhere but on your own home page. *smh*
You're right. It's mind-boggling.
I agree, it's idiotic. Foods may not necessarily be Unhealthy (like oatmeal cookies in moderation) but they are certainly not healthy! Many people when attempting to lose weight (and other times) would like to make all of the calories that go in to their bodies actually nutritious. I think this is a great goal! Why put "empty" calories in to one's body when it can be avoided. Not to say that there should't be room for some treats now and then, just don't fool yourself in to thinking you are doing something good for yourself!0 -
esmesqualor wrote: »just don't fool yourself in to thinking you are doing something good for yourself!
Is there a particular post you are referring to? Because you don't seem to be referring to anything said in the discussion.0 -
esmesqualor wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »MFP has a... thing about this. I have never seen a diet and fitness site like this before. People get criticized for avoiding excess sugar, junk food, highly processed items, etc. I may very occasionally permit myself such an item, but I'm not going to pretend it's *healthy* AKA high in nutrients, because it isn't! Folks will equate the "processing" of placing fruit or vegetables in a bag with the processing of mashing things to a pulp, adding a ton of preservatives, artificial flavors and salt, and frying it. To avoid criticism, the only thing to do is to eat healthy for your own sake but never mention it anywhere but on your own home page. *smh*
You're right. It's mind-boggling.
I agree, it's idiotic. Foods may not necessarily be Unhealthy (like oatmeal cookies in moderation) but they are certainly not healthy! Many people when attempting to lose weight (and other times) would like to make all of the calories that go in to their bodies actually nutritious. I think this is a great goal! Why put "empty" calories in to one's body when it can be avoided. Not to say that there should't be room for some treats now and then, just don't fool yourself in to thinking you are doing something good for yourself!
Because health is a lot more than what you put in your body. And sometimes the enjoyment of eating a cookie or ice cream goes a long way for mental health. Daily Klondikes have kept me in the game for a long time. When i cut them all out, while going paleo, i binged. So let me ask you what is more healthy. .. a diet that is 90% nutrient dense and 10% personal enjoyment or a diet where i binge?
So my "idotic" diet has been my success. And i know its success because all my numbers improve and i keep hitting PRs every lifting session.0
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