Keep gaining weight but doing everything right
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There is only one answer for weight gain. You've been asked multiple times for alternative answers and haven't provided any.
You can report your original post and ask that it be removed and then keep on going with what's obviously not working since that appears to be your comfort zone.0 -
I only eat fish and vegetables for once. And only vegetables that don't make me bloated, which would be broccoli etc.
I didn't gain 15kg in a year, that's very different. I did 3 months of training of cardio on average 4 hours a day 7 days a week + 4 days of weight training. Got very strong but also gained probably the 10kg of the 15. I halved the training when I first became i and gained another 5kg. I stopped training for 7 months and ate pretty much the same, but didn't gain anything. Now I've been back with the above mentioned training since May. I've been very sick this year in general, extreme fatigue, the IBS symptoms and bad joint and muscle stiffness. That was the reason I went for bloodworks. My doctors are the ones that keep wanting to do more tests. I'm back in physio because of the cartilage damage in my wrist. I am not even taking in account the medication for IBS or depression, knowing that at least the latter can make it hard. I just want to rule out anything medical. But it seems that on here there is only one answer for everything.
Can I delete this thread and I can try out anything else when I know for sure that none of these symptoms are related to this problem.
Regardless of any medical condition, the key to weight loss is burning more calories than you ingest. Medications and conditions can lower the "Calories In" portion of the CICO equation, but it doesn't change the underlying concept.0 -
Eating just fish and veg does not make you immune to the laws of thermodynamics.0
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You should check out Gary Taubes book "Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About it." He talks a lot about other reasons besides "you're eating too much" that people gain weight. He looks at case studies such as marathoners that have run the equivalent of 3 times around the globe, and yet still gain weight. It might help you gain another prespective about the chemicals in your body that cause weight gain beyond the simple calories in, calories out model.
I can save you the read...they ate more than they burned.0 -
The list is very big of things you can eat. Those are just very calorie rich ones that she listed.
I especially like raw vegetable smoothies. I liquify a lot of what I eat. I don't like the "heavy" feeling.
I avoid acidic fruits too and eat oats and other soluble fibres. Your tummy is the cause of so many other things, so keeping it happy and healthy is a must.0 -
If only those magical body chemicals could really create energy from nothing.tincanonastring wrote: »You should check out Gary Taubes book "Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About it." He talks a lot about other reasons besides "you're eating too much" that people gain weight. He looks at case studies such as marathoners that have run the equivalent of 3 times around the globe, and yet still gain weight. It might help you gain another prespective about the chemicals in your body that cause weight gain beyond the simple calories in, calories out model.
I can save you the read...they ate more than they burned.
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You should check out Gary Taubes book "Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About it." He talks a lot about other reasons besides "you're eating too much" that people gain weight. He looks at case studies such as marathoners that have run the equivalent of 3 times around the globe, and yet still gain weight. It might help you gain another prespective about the chemicals in your body that cause weight gain beyond the simple calories in, calories out model.
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/why-we-get-fat/0 -
You can still overeat even if you're eating only fish and veg.
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No, I specifically said that the person saying he needs to shake his head at a comment that I made, is rather rude.
I put their name in the comment specifying who I said didn't need to treat me like I am stupid. What's going on here?
Yes there are good and bad foods, you not knowing that shows you don't understand, not me.
There are foods that cause bloating and that are hard to digest. FODMAP means you are leaving out as I have mentioned, lactose and other hard digestibles. You normally stick to that when you have a gastrointestinal disorder. But yes, I am the one who knows nothing about science right.
smh
Wow, this was more disheartening than anything else.
People make many assumptions based upon a few brief sentences in a post - don't read too much into it and ignore the snark. Responding in kind isn't going to deescalate the situation.
Regardless of being on FODMAP, what you have not discussed is the number of calories you are ingesting. Bottom line if you are gaining weight you are either eating too much or burning too few calories. How you get to a caloric deficit is up to you.
While I agree with your last paragraph, there is no snark or assumptions, just cold hard truth based on what OP has shared.0 -
The list is very big of things you can eat. Those are just very calorie rich ones that she listed.
I especially like raw vegetable smoothies. I liquify a lot of what I eat. I don't like the "heavy" feeling.
I avoid acidic fruits too and eat oats and other soluble fibres. Your tummy is the cause of so many other things, so keeping it happy and healthy is a must.
I also like smoothies. They still have calories. You can have a "happy and healthy" tummy and still consume more calories than your body is burning. This will result in weight gain.0 -
The thing that you are not saying, and specifically avoiding, is that you have no idea how many calories you are eating in a day.The list is very big of things you can eat. Those are just very calorie rich ones that she listed.
I especially like raw vegetable smoothies. I liquify a lot of what I eat. I don't like the "heavy" feeling.
I avoid acidic fruits too and eat oats and other soluble fibres. Your tummy is the cause of so many other things, so keeping it happy and healthy is a must.
What you eat does not matter for weight loss. How many calories you eat is what matters and you are eating more calories than your body is using. Low carb, low fat, Paleo, Atkins, FODMAP, anything will work as long as you eat fewer calories than your body consumes.
Get a food scale and weigh your solids and use measuring cups/spoons for liquids. Record in a food diary (either on MFP or elsewhere) exactly what and how much of it you are eating. Make sure you are using database entries with accurate nutritional info because some of them can be incomplete or inaccurate.0 -
The list is very big of things you can eat. Those are just very calorie rich ones that she listed.
I especially like raw vegetable smoothies. I liquify a lot of what I eat. I don't like the "heavy" feeling.
I avoid acidic fruits too and eat oats and other soluble fibres. Your tummy is the cause of so many other things, so keeping it happy and healthy is a must.
I could very easily overeat on oats and smoothies. In fact I have done in the past.
You don't defy the laws of physics. Medication and medical conditions can make it a bit harder to lose but not impossible There are many people with far more challenging conditions than you who have successfully lost weight. It's just basic science and you don't defy it no matter what you think.
If you have never weighed any of your food how do you know what a reasonable portion looks like?
10 years ago i was a full-time dance student convinced I was a special snowflake because I was dancing 4-10 hours per day but maintained my weight for the duration after an initial loss. Guess what? I'm not special. I started weighing my food earlier this year and have lost 28lbs. You could too if you stopped focussing on how active you are and started focussing on the basic facts of calories in calories out.
It's never nice to hear people saying something you don't want to hear but I'm afraid it's the truth.0 -
I'm gonna ask one simple question and it is not meant to be sarcastic or funny but designed to wake you up. Why did you put a post on this forum if you have already decided for yourself what you want your answer to be? You're wasting your time and everyone elses. Only ask a question if you are READY to listen to peoples advice and act accordingly. If you think you are a special snowflake and your body is going against the laws of physics and just simple logic then don't bother to post. Because as rational human beings we are trying to use logic and science as ways to help you determine your best course of action. If you're not ready to hear the truth then don't ask the question in the first place. Posts like this are very frustrating. When you're ready to lose the weight...you will... and you'll find out you're not such a special snowflake after all.0
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The denial is strong with this one.-1
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I only eat fish and vegetables for once. And only vegetables that don't make me bloated, which would be broccoli etc.
I didn't gain 15kg in a year, that's very different. I did 3 months of training of cardio on average 4 hours a day 7 days a week + 4 days of weight training. Got very strong but also gained probably the 10kg of the 15. I halved the training when I first became i and gained another 5kg. I stopped training for 7 months and ate pretty much the same, but didn't gain anything. Now I've been back with the above mentioned training since May. I've been very sick this year in general, extreme fatigue, the IBS symptoms and bad joint and muscle stiffness. That was the reason I went for bloodworks. My doctors are the ones that keep wanting to do more tests. I'm back in physio because of the cartilage damage in my wrist. I am not even taking in account the medication for IBS or depression, knowing that at least the latter can make it hard. I just want to rule out anything medical. But it seems that on here there is only one answer for everything.
Can I delete this thread and I can try out anything else when I know for sure that none of these symptoms are related to this problem.
No one here is qualified to diagnose you with anything medical over the internet. Stay with your doctors and let them run tests if you think something is going on. Otherwise, ruling out the very common issues that most people have (overestimating calories burned and underestimating calories eaten) can only help.0 -
Juicing/smoothie vegetables could be one reason you're intake is more than you assume. I love juice and smoothies, but even vegetables have calories. Making smoothies of them is an easy way to consume 300 calories in one glass.0
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tincanonastring wrote: »acorsaut89 wrote: »I looked at the FODMAP link here. And I learned you can eat the following, according to that website:
Potato
Sweet potato
Bananas
Papaya
Pineapple
Beef
Cold cuts
Salmon
Tuna
Corn tortillas
Nuts
Sugar
Mayonnaise
Lard
Cocoa powder
And lots of other calorie dense items
I think it's pretty easy to overeat any of these, even though they may not trigger your IBS. Unless you weigh them on a digital scale, it's hard to know exactly how many calories of each you're eating.
oh man . . . a list with lard on it. I have IBS but I definitely don't eat/cook with lard . . . the other stuff some of it but cold cuts? no way . . . they make me feel horrible.
How do you do with pineapple? I don't have anything wrong with my innards and even I have problems when I get going with the p'apple.
It depends . . . I can usually be ok with it as long as I'm eating it with something else or I've eaten something else shortly before it so my stomach has other food to pass through along with the pineapple.
I will say though that of most of the fruits I eat, I find even if I feel ok I am usually still a bit bloated after eating it. However, having IBS being/feeling bloated is a pretty normal thing.
But sometimes if I am stressed or emotionally upset, it doesn't really matter what food I'm eating I can't manage my symptoms.
I have found working out has helped me to have less physically daunting symptoms when they do occur. Like if I was stressed out and I ate something that didn't agree with me - like something high in dairy lets say - I could be bent over with stomach cramps for hours and then I'd have to run - like sprint!! - to the bathroom.
Now, it's slightly uncomfortable but I am also way less stressed out because I am working out 5 - 6 days/week and my body handles it differently. Might not be the case for everyone, but I've found my thing and I'm sticking to it
Although I will say - as someone else said - a lot of those items are calorie dense and high in fat in some cases; I find foods that are highly processed cause issues for me - mayo being one of the big ones if I eat too much of it. Also, when I googled it and looked at some websites, they recommend bananas for a FODMAP but they are one food I cannot handle, I'm doubled over in pain regardless of whether I'm having a flareup. They suggest this diet for those with IBS and similar GI disorders but some of the foods they list cause me issues and cause other people I know with IBS/UC issues. It's an odd diet to me.0 -
The list is very big of things you can eat. Those are just very calorie rich ones that she listed.
I especially like raw vegetable smoothies. I liquify a lot of what I eat. I don't like the "heavy" feeling.
I avoid acidic fruits too and eat oats and other soluble fibres. Your tummy is the cause of so many other things, so keeping it happy and healthy is a must.
I'm on a highly restricted version of FODMAP, and I have no problem losing weight and maintaining it, whether I exercise or not.
If you are gaining weight, you are eating too many calories, period. That's how it works, regardless of what foods you are eating.
Weigh your food.
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I've lost weight before, when it was needed before competition etc. I've done it several times and haven't done anything different than now.
Of course I check exactly how much I eat, I prepare my portions for every meal each day. I don't just throw random things into a smoothie.
I wrote this post to see if there is anyone with medical conditions who have had a hard time or some who have gone through something similar.
Also, I eat fish and vegetables because I can stand them. A lot of food make me nauseous. I'm not American, I know what a normal portion size is. I grew up in Sweden where people are a normal size and live a very healthy lifestyle.
Why I don't give a number of calories I am eating is because I don't always eat the same amount to one calorie every day.
I've lost weight rapidly before even by only cutting sugar entirely, so it isn't only calories, even though that is what I am usually doing, with fat, protein and carb in mind as well, as well as I haven't logged my food for two weeks now as I have also mentioned.
Also, I haven't gained weight for awhile now, I said it was when I did extensive workouts last summer, now my weight just isn't dropping.
How do you make out that if you eat a specific diet, no exercise and maintain weight. Then you add exercise and no loss in weight.
There have been times my coach has told me I need to eat more when I have almost fainted after 4 hours training, because I've only taken in liquid nutrition.
It isn't just as simple as in and out. I do high performance sports and it is hard to find a balance, especially if you get sick from food constantly.
Anyway thanks for all the same messages, I think we can stop it here.
@mccindy72 great that is works for you. I have just started with those restrictions and I am constantly bad and get even worse when I go exercising. Still trying to adjust it.
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Welp. Good luck doing the same thing that got you to post this thread. I hope you find your special mystery medical condition.0
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I've lost weight before, when it was needed before competition etc. I've done it several times and haven't done anything different than now.
Of course I check exactly how much I eat, I prepare my portions for every meal each day. I don't just throw random things into a smoothie.
I wrote this post to see if there is anyone with medical conditions who have had a hard time or some who have gone through something similar.
Also, I eat fish and vegetables because I can stand them. A lot of food make me nauseous. I'm not American, I know what a normal portion size is. I grew up in Sweden where people are a normal size and live a very healthy lifestyle.
Why I don't give a number of calories I am eating is because I don't always eat the same amount to one calorie every day.
I've lost weight rapidly before even by only cutting sugar entirely, so it isn't only calories, even though that is what I am usually doing, with fat, protein and carb in mind as well, as well as I haven't logged my food for two weeks now as I have also mentioned.
Also, I haven't gained weight for awhile now, I said it was when I did extensive workouts last summer, now my weight just isn't dropping.
How do you make out that if you eat a specific diet, no exercise and maintain weight. Then you add exercise and no loss in weight.
There have been times my coach has told me I need to eat more when I have almost fainted after 4 hours training, because I've only taken in liquid nutrition.
It isn't just as simple as in and out. I do high performance sports and it is hard to find a balance, especially if you get sick from food constantly.
Anyway thanks for all the same messages, I think we can stop it here.
@mccindy72 great that is works for you. I have just started with those restrictions and I am constantly bad and get even worse when I go exercising. Still trying to adjust it.
I'm sorry, but it is just as simple as in and out. Figuring out the numbers behind it may not be easy, but In/Out is the foundation of weight management. But yes, keep ignoring that fact as it seems to be helping you reach your goal...oh, wait.0 -
I've lost weight before, when it was needed before competition etc. I've done it several times and haven't done anything different than now.
Of course I check exactly how much I eat, I prepare my portions for every meal each day. I don't just throw random things into a smoothie.
I wrote this post to see if there is anyone with medical conditions who have had a hard time or some who have gone through something similar.
Also, I eat fruits and vegetables because I can stand them. A lot of food make me nauseous. I'm not American, I know what a normal portion size is. I grew up in Sweden where people are a normal size and live a very healthy lifestyle.
Why I don't give a number of calories I am eating is because I don't always eat the same amount to one calorie every day.
I've lost weight rapidly before even by only cutting sugar entirely, so it isn't only calories, even though that is what I am usually doing, with fat, protein and carb in mind as well, as well as I haven't logged my food for two weeks now as I have also mentioned.
Also, I haven't gained weight for awhile now, I said it was when I did extensive workouts last summer, now my weight just isn't dropping.
How do you make out that if you eat a specific diet, no exercise and maintain weight. Then you add exercise and no loss in weight.
There have been times my coach has told me I need to eat more when I have almost fainted after 4 hours training, because I've only taken in liquid nutrition.
It isn't just as simple as in and out. I do high performance sports and it is hard to find a balance, especially if you get sick from food constantly.
Anyway thanks for all the same messages, I think we can stop it here.
@mccindy72 great that is works for you. I have just started with those restrictions and I am constantly bad and get even worse when I go exercising. Still trying to adjust it.
The reason you lost weight when you cut out the sugar you did (I presume you mean added sugar since you can't really cut out all sugar because fruit, veggies, and other foods have sugar in them) is because the absence of those calories decreased your calories/increased your deficit.
With all due respect, it seems to me that you may not be ready to absorb the one basic truth that most people in this conversation have given you, and that is that weight gain is supported by eating at a surplus whether it is muscle or fat.
I wish you the best of luck.
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Best wishes0
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If it's not as simple as calories in and out, what is it? Everyone's weight is regulated by energy balance.
Bear in mind that what you think makes it complex only ever modifies either one of those factors.
You answering that you can't give calorie amounts is frankly a diversionary tactic. Give a range, give us an idea of the deficit you're creating. Give us an idea that you're aware that your body is burning so many calories a day and that you're eating, on average, so many less a day.
You've shown no basic understanding of how weight loss actually works.0 -
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OP, I don't see how there could be any harm in weighing and logging your food precisely for a couple of weeks to remove any doubt whatsoever about how many calories you are eating? That's all that people are suggesting, and a pretty easy way to confirm that you are as on point with your eating as you believe that you are. It takes hardly any time, removes ambiguity, puts an end to pointless online arguments.0
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You have IBS ...that sucks
You have a great exercise programme...excellent
You eat a restrictive diet...do you weigh and calorie count everything
Why don't you just try it ...for 6 weeks ...then come back
You have already had a number of medical tests and ruled out issues
You are simply doing what the majority do and underestimating your calorie consumption...particularly if you liquidise your food, so much easier to overeat unknowingly
Try it
For 6 weeks
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tkphotogirl wrote: »OP, I don't see how there could be any harm in weighing and logging your food precisely for a couple of weeks to remove any doubt whatsoever about how many calories you are eating? That's all that people are suggesting, and a pretty easy way to confirm that you are as on point with your eating as you believe that you are. It takes hardly any time, removes ambiguity, puts an end to pointless online arguments.
Well said.
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I've lost weight before, when it was needed before competition etc. I've done it several times and haven't done anything different than now.
Of course I check exactly how much I eat, I prepare my portions for every meal each day. I don't just throw random things into a smoothie.
I wrote this post to see if there is anyone with medical conditions who have had a hard time or some who have gone through something similar.
Also, I eat fish and vegetables because I can stand them. A lot of food make me nauseous. I'm not American, I know what a normal portion size is. I grew up in Sweden where people are a normal size and live a very healthy lifestyle.
Why I don't give a number of calories I am eating is because I don't always eat the same amount to one calorie every day.
I've lost weight rapidly before even by only cutting sugar entirely, so it isn't only calories, even though that is what I am usually doing, with fat, protein and carb in mind as well, as well as I haven't logged my food for two weeks now as I have also mentioned.
Also, I haven't gained weight for awhile now, I said it was when I did extensive workouts last summer, now my weight just isn't dropping.
How do you make out that if you eat a specific diet, no exercise and maintain weight. Then you add exercise and no loss in weight.
There have been times my coach has told me I need to eat more when I have almost fainted after 4 hours training, because I've only taken in liquid nutrition.
It isn't just as simple as in and out. I do high performance sports and it is hard to find a balance, especially if you get sick from food constantly.
Anyway thanks for all the same messages, I think we can stop it here.
@mccindy72 great that is works for you. I have just started with those restrictions and I am constantly bad and get even worse when I go exercising. Still trying to adjust it.
The passive aggression is strong with this one....wow.It isn't as simple as in and out
Sorry, with weight loss yes....yes it is. If you're not in a defcit, you won't lose weight. If you're not in a surplus you won't gain weight.
For health, nutrition, satiety and performance...yes your calories matter, but not weight loss.
But I'm American, so what do I know about nutrition, am I right?0
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