Daily goals: Sugar

skvortss
skvortss Posts: 4 Member
edited November 26 in Health and Weight Loss
An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?
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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    unless you have a medical condition there is no reason to worry about sugar. I track it out of curiosity and yes the MFP recommendation is very low.

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    skvortss wrote: »
    An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
    Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?

    Swap it out for fibre

    I did

    Much happier
  • skvortss
    skvortss Posts: 4 Member
    Thx, that's what I thougt))
  • ShrinkingKerrie
    ShrinkingKerrie Posts: 338 Member
    I got a sugar warning on grapes yesterday, I just stick to the cals and don't worry about the other stuff
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited November 2015
    skvortss wrote: »
    An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
    Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?

    48 grams of sugar for an apple and a Greek yogurt seems high to me. You must not be be talking about plain Greek yogurt. I don't worry about the sugar that occurs naturally in fruit and dairy, but I do pay attention to added sugar. Sugar was added to the first yogurt.

    7d1ef519e9c5edbf2df2c2e60447495c.png

    Unfortunately, MFP does not differentiate between naturally occurring and added sugar. But when I limit foods like sweetened yogurt and baked goods, I don't exceed MFP's sugar recommendation.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    you picked a huge apple and a sweetened yoghurt or something ? Should be ~58g at 1550 cals (15% of calories).
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    I don't eat much in the way of added sugar so I don't worry about it. I eat 2-3 servings of fruit per day and quite a bit of veg...occasionally I'll have a soda or something but other than that, my only added sugar for the most part is my desert most nights.

    If you're hitting 48 grams with your yogurt and an apple, I'm going to assume your yogurt has a lot of added sugar.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    skvortss wrote: »
    An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
    Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?

    48 grams of sugar for an apple and a Greek yogurt seems high to me. You must not be be talking about plain Greek yogurt. I don't worry about the sugar that occurs naturally in fruit and dairy, but I do pay attention to added sugar. Sugar was added to the first yogurt.

    7d1ef519e9c5edbf2df2c2e60447495c.png

    Unfortunately, MFP does not differentiate between naturally occurring and added sugar. But when I limit foods like sweetened yogurt and baked goods, I don't exceed the sugar.

    OP, please ignore this.

    There is no difference between natural and added sugar.

    the sugar in your strawberry = the sugar in a cookie
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    skvortss wrote: »
    An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
    Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?

    48 grams of sugar for an apple and a Greek yogurt seems high to me. You must not be be talking about plain Greek yogurt. I don't worry about the sugar that occurs naturally in fruit and dairy, but I do pay attention to added sugar. Sugar was added to the first yogurt.

    7d1ef519e9c5edbf2df2c2e60447495c.png

    Unfortunately, MFP does not differentiate between naturally occurring and added sugar. But when I limit foods like sweetened yogurt and baked goods, I don't exceed the sugar.

    OP, please ignore this.

    There is no difference between natural and added sugar.

    the sugar in your strawberry = the sugar in a cookie

    WHO calls on countries to reduce sugars intake among adults and children

    4 MARCH 2015 ¦ GENEVA - A new WHO guideline recommends adults and children reduce their daily intake of free sugars to less than 10% of their total energy intake. A further reduction to below 5% or roughly 25 grams (6 teaspoons) per day would provide additional health benefits.

    Free sugars refer to monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) added to foods and drinks by the manufacturer, cook or consumer, and sugars naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit juice concentrates.

    “We have solid evidence that keeping intake of free sugars to less than 10% of total energy intake reduces the risk of overweight, obesity and tooth decay,” says Dr Francesco Branca, Director of WHO’s Department of Nutrition for Health and Development. “Making policy changes to support this will be key if countries are to live up to their commitments to reduce the burden of noncommunicable diseases.”

    The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.

    Read more: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    skvortss wrote: »
    An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
    Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?

    48 grams of sugar for an apple and a Greek yogurt seems high to me. You must not be be talking about plain Greek yogurt. I don't worry about the sugar that occurs naturally in fruit and dairy, but I do pay attention to added sugar. Sugar was added to the first yogurt.

    7d1ef519e9c5edbf2df2c2e60447495c.png

    Unfortunately, MFP does not differentiate between naturally occurring and added sugar. But when I limit foods like sweetened yogurt and baked goods, I don't exceed the sugar.

    OP, please ignore this.

    There is no difference between natural and added sugar.

    the sugar in your strawberry = the sugar in a cookie

    WHO calls on countries to reduce sugars intake among adults and children

    4 MARCH 2015 ¦ GENEVA - A new WHO guideline recommends adults and children reduce their daily intake of free sugars to less than 10% of their total energy intake. A further reduction to below 5% or roughly 25 grams (6 teaspoons) per day would provide additional health benefits.

    Free sugars refer to monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) added to foods and drinks by the manufacturer, cook or consumer, and sugars naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit juice concentrates.

    “We have solid evidence that keeping intake of free sugars to less than 10% of total energy intake reduces the risk of overweight, obesity and tooth decay,” says Dr Francesco Branca, Director of WHO’s Department of Nutrition for Health and Development. “Making policy changes to support this will be key if countries are to live up to their commitments to reduce the burden of noncommunicable diseases.”

    The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.

    Read more: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/

    so your are linking to WHO fear mongering reports?

    that does not change the fact that the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie….
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    edited November 2015
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    skvortss wrote: »
    An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
    Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?

    48 grams of sugar for an apple and a Greek yogurt seems high to me. You must not be be talking about plain Greek yogurt. I don't worry about the sugar that occurs naturally in fruit and dairy, but I do pay attention to added sugar. Sugar was added to the first yogurt.

    7d1ef519e9c5edbf2df2c2e60447495c.png

    Unfortunately, MFP does not differentiate between naturally occurring and added sugar. But when I limit foods like sweetened yogurt and baked goods, I don't exceed the sugar.

    OP, please ignore this.

    There is no difference between natural and added sugar.

    the sugar in your strawberry = the sugar in a cookie

    WHO calls on countries to reduce sugars intake among adults and children

    4 MARCH 2015 ¦ GENEVA - A new WHO guideline recommends adults and children reduce their daily intake of free sugars to less than 10% of their total energy intake. A further reduction to below 5% or roughly 25 grams (6 teaspoons) per day would provide additional health benefits.

    Free sugars refer to monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) added to foods and drinks by the manufacturer, cook or consumer, and sugars naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit juice concentrates.

    “We have solid evidence that keeping intake of free sugars to less than 10% of total energy intake reduces the risk of overweight, obesity and tooth decay,” says Dr Francesco Branca, Director of WHO’s Department of Nutrition for Health and Development. “Making policy changes to support this will be key if countries are to live up to their commitments to reduce the burden of noncommunicable diseases.”

    The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.

    Read more: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/

    so your are linking to WHO fear mongering reports?

    that does not change the fact that the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie….

    I'll await your links to peer-reviewed, double blind clinical studies showing that for humans the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    There is no difference between naturally occurring and "free sugars". The chemical composition is identical. However, the WHO is recommending limiting "free sugars" in an attempt to improve health outcomes. Why distinguish? Because we don't want to discourage people from eating their fruits or drinking their milk (which come with naturally occurring sugars).

    People being who they are, however, see their sugar numbers rise from eating an apple, and freak. Or wonder where the sugar came from in their skim milk. It's there. It's OK.

    One can get adverse effects from naturally occurring sugars. Which is why parents are advised not to put their toddler to bed with a bottle. The milk pools in the mouth during sleep and can lead to tooth decay. Just as with "free sugars".
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    skvortss wrote: »
    An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
    Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?

    48 grams of sugar for an apple and a Greek yogurt seems high to me. You must not be be talking about plain Greek yogurt. I don't worry about the sugar that occurs naturally in fruit and dairy, but I do pay attention to added sugar. Sugar was added to the first yogurt.

    7d1ef519e9c5edbf2df2c2e60447495c.png

    Unfortunately, MFP does not differentiate between naturally occurring and added sugar. But when I limit foods like sweetened yogurt and baked goods, I don't exceed the sugar.

    OP, please ignore this.

    There is no difference between natural and added sugar.

    the sugar in your strawberry = the sugar in a cookie

    WHO calls on countries to reduce sugars intake among adults and children

    4 MARCH 2015 ¦ GENEVA - A new WHO guideline recommends adults and children reduce their daily intake of free sugars to less than 10% of their total energy intake. A further reduction to below 5% or roughly 25 grams (6 teaspoons) per day would provide additional health benefits.

    Free sugars refer to monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) added to foods and drinks by the manufacturer, cook or consumer, and sugars naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit juice concentrates.

    “We have solid evidence that keeping intake of free sugars to less than 10% of total energy intake reduces the risk of overweight, obesity and tooth decay,” says Dr Francesco Branca, Director of WHO’s Department of Nutrition for Health and Development. “Making policy changes to support this will be key if countries are to live up to their commitments to reduce the burden of noncommunicable diseases.”

    The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.

    Read more: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/

    so your are linking to WHO fear mongering reports?

    that does not change the fact that the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie….

    I'll await your links to peer-reviewed, double blind clinical studies showing that for humans the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie.

    you need a peer reviewed source to know that sugar = sugar, really?
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    skvortss wrote: »
    An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
    Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?

    48 grams of sugar for an apple and a Greek yogurt seems high to me. You must not be be talking about plain Greek yogurt. I don't worry about the sugar that occurs naturally in fruit and dairy, but I do pay attention to added sugar. Sugar was added to the first yogurt.

    7d1ef519e9c5edbf2df2c2e60447495c.png

    Unfortunately, MFP does not differentiate between naturally occurring and added sugar. But when I limit foods like sweetened yogurt and baked goods, I don't exceed the sugar.

    OP, please ignore this.

    There is no difference between natural and added sugar.

    the sugar in your strawberry = the sugar in a cookie

    WHO calls on countries to reduce sugars intake among adults and children

    4 MARCH 2015 ¦ GENEVA - A new WHO guideline recommends adults and children reduce their daily intake of free sugars to less than 10% of their total energy intake. A further reduction to below 5% or roughly 25 grams (6 teaspoons) per day would provide additional health benefits.

    Free sugars refer to monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) added to foods and drinks by the manufacturer, cook or consumer, and sugars naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit juice concentrates.

    “We have solid evidence that keeping intake of free sugars to less than 10% of total energy intake reduces the risk of overweight, obesity and tooth decay,” says Dr Francesco Branca, Director of WHO’s Department of Nutrition for Health and Development. “Making policy changes to support this will be key if countries are to live up to their commitments to reduce the burden of noncommunicable diseases.”

    The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.

    Read more: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/

    so your are linking to WHO fear mongering reports?

    that does not change the fact that the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie….

    I'll await your links to peer-reviewed, double blind clinical studies showing that for humans the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie.

    you need a peer reviewed source to know that sugar = sugar, really?

    Double blind and peer reviewed :)
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    edited November 2015
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    skvortss wrote: »
    An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
    Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?

    48 grams of sugar for an apple and a Greek yogurt seems high to me. You must not be be talking about plain Greek yogurt. I don't worry about the sugar that occurs naturally in fruit and dairy, but I do pay attention to added sugar. Sugar was added to the first yogurt.

    7d1ef519e9c5edbf2df2c2e60447495c.png

    Unfortunately, MFP does not differentiate between naturally occurring and added sugar. But when I limit foods like sweetened yogurt and baked goods, I don't exceed the sugar.

    OP, please ignore this.

    There is no difference between natural and added sugar.

    the sugar in your strawberry = the sugar in a cookie

    WHO calls on countries to reduce sugars intake among adults and children

    4 MARCH 2015 ¦ GENEVA - A new WHO guideline recommends adults and children reduce their daily intake of free sugars to less than 10% of their total energy intake. A further reduction to below 5% or roughly 25 grams (6 teaspoons) per day would provide additional health benefits.

    Free sugars refer to monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) added to foods and drinks by the manufacturer, cook or consumer, and sugars naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit juice concentrates.

    “We have solid evidence that keeping intake of free sugars to less than 10% of total energy intake reduces the risk of overweight, obesity and tooth decay,” says Dr Francesco Branca, Director of WHO’s Department of Nutrition for Health and Development. “Making policy changes to support this will be key if countries are to live up to their commitments to reduce the burden of noncommunicable diseases.”

    The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.

    Read more: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/

    so your are linking to WHO fear mongering reports?

    that does not change the fact that the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie….

    I'll await your links to peer-reviewed, double blind clinical studies showing that for humans the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie.

    you need a peer reviewed source to know that sugar = sugar, really?

    Double blind and peer reviewed :)

    so common sense now requires studies? Interesting…

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    skvortss wrote: »
    An apple and a greek yogurt a day and here we go - I'm past my sugar target of 48 grams (for 1550 cal/d). Is there smth wrong with the MFP recommendation for sugar?
    Can I just ignore it and bite into my second apple as long as it fits with the calory goal? Do you observe your sugar intake on the basis of what MFP tells you?

    48 grams of sugar for an apple and a Greek yogurt seems high to me. You must not be be talking about plain Greek yogurt. I don't worry about the sugar that occurs naturally in fruit and dairy, but I do pay attention to added sugar. Sugar was added to the first yogurt.

    7d1ef519e9c5edbf2df2c2e60447495c.png

    Unfortunately, MFP does not differentiate between naturally occurring and added sugar. But when I limit foods like sweetened yogurt and baked goods, I don't exceed the sugar.

    OP, please ignore this.

    There is no difference between natural and added sugar.

    the sugar in your strawberry = the sugar in a cookie

    WHO calls on countries to reduce sugars intake among adults and children

    4 MARCH 2015 ¦ GENEVA - A new WHO guideline recommends adults and children reduce their daily intake of free sugars to less than 10% of their total energy intake. A further reduction to below 5% or roughly 25 grams (6 teaspoons) per day would provide additional health benefits.

    Free sugars refer to monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) added to foods and drinks by the manufacturer, cook or consumer, and sugars naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit juice concentrates.

    “We have solid evidence that keeping intake of free sugars to less than 10% of total energy intake reduces the risk of overweight, obesity and tooth decay,” says Dr Francesco Branca, Director of WHO’s Department of Nutrition for Health and Development. “Making policy changes to support this will be key if countries are to live up to their commitments to reduce the burden of noncommunicable diseases.”

    The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.

    Read more: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/

    so your are linking to WHO fear mongering reports?

    that does not change the fact that the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie….

    I'll await your links to peer-reviewed, double blind clinical studies showing that for humans the sugar in fruit = the sugar in the cookie.

    you need a peer reviewed source to know that sugar = sugar, really?

    Double blind and peer reviewed :)

    so common sense now requires studies? Interesting…

    if anything the one making the ridiculous claim that one form of sugar is different that another should be required to posts said studies.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    There are some studies that just aren't done any more because there's general consensus. We don't need a peer reviewed double blind study to prove for instance, that cow's dung cannot be transmuted in to gold. The composition of gold is well-known. The composition of the various sugars is well known.

    http://www.bioinfo.org.cn/book/biochemistry/chapt11/sim1.htm
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    There are some studies that just aren't done any more because there's general consensus. We don't need a peer reviewed double blind study to prove for instance, that cow's dung cannot be transmuted in to gold. The composition of gold is well-known. The composition of the various sugars is well known.

    http://www.bioinfo.org.cn/book/biochemistry/chapt11/sim1.htm

    so alchemy is not a thing..?? You mean that I should not have paid that guy 25,000 to lean how to turn dirt into gold..????

  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »

    The WHO guideline does not refer to the sugars in fresh fruits and vegetables, and sugars naturally present in milk, because there is no reported evidence of adverse effects of consuming these sugars.

    that isn't strictly the case though - there are some issues with some consumption patterns at higher levels.
  • umayster
    umayster Posts: 651 Member
    Unless you want to have a medical condition you should consider worrying about sugar.

    There are many things you body needs and if you are displacing those things and substituting unneeded sugar calories instead, eventually you will have nutritional or metabolic consequences.

    Sugar is fun to eat, don' mistake it for necessary.

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited November 2015
    umayster wrote: »
    Unless you want to have a medical condition you should consider worrying about sugar.

    There are many things you body needs and if you are displacing those things and substituting unneeded sugar calories instead, eventually you will have nutritional or metabolic consequences.

    Sugar is fun to eat, don' mistake it for necessary.

    So you imply that sugar causes medical conditions?

    I could understand that a diet lacking in nutrients or exceeding in calories would..but your first sentence is in direct opposition to you second

    It's the lack of nutritional balance that leads to issues
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    umayster wrote: »
    Sugar is fun to eat, don' mistake it for necessary.

    Necessary for diabetics and babies. Sometimes life-saving even. There's a reason there are sugars in mother's milk.

  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    Necessary for poorly controlled diabetics who might need 5 grams to get out of a hypoglycaemic event perhaps. Most diabetics by definition have too much sugar in their blood.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    umayster wrote: »
    Unless you want to have a medical condition you should consider worrying about sugar.
    What's sugar going to do to me about which I should consider worrying?

  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    I wouldn't *kitten*-u-me everyone logs everything they eat every day with clockwork adherence.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    @yarwell , yes. As a type 2 diabetic I watched my intake carefully; all my macros and fiber too. It's a delicate balancing act but still necessary. Just because sugar has to be watched so closely by diabetics does not make it any less necessary for bodily functions. Sugar does not cause disease.
  • umayster
    umayster Posts: 651 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    umayster wrote: »
    Unless you want to have a medical condition you should consider worrying about sugar.

    There are many things you body needs and if you are displacing those things and substituting unneeded sugar calories instead, eventually you will have nutritional or metabolic consequences.

    Sugar is fun to eat, don' mistake it for necessary.

    So you imply that sugar causes medical conditions?

    I could understand that a diet lacking in nutrients or exceeding in calories would..but your first sentence is in direct opposition to you second

    It's the lack of nutritional balance that leads to issues
    jgnatca wrote: »
    umayster wrote: »
    Sugar is fun to eat, don' mistake it for necessary.

    Necessary for diabetics and babies. Sometimes life-saving even. There's a reason there are sugars in mother's milk.

    Context matters. Excess or added sugars are unnecessary and can be detrimental to nutritional and metabolic health and weight goals. Do you really want to take a position on the other side of that?
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    umayster wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    umayster wrote: »
    Unless you want to have a medical condition you should consider worrying about sugar.

    There are many things you body needs and if you are displacing those things and substituting unneeded sugar calories instead, eventually you will have nutritional or metabolic consequences.

    Sugar is fun to eat, don' mistake it for necessary.

    So you imply that sugar causes medical conditions?

    I could understand that a diet lacking in nutrients or exceeding in calories would..but your first sentence is in direct opposition to you second

    It's the lack of nutritional balance that leads to issues
    jgnatca wrote: »
    umayster wrote: »
    Sugar is fun to eat, don' mistake it for necessary.

    Necessary for diabetics and babies. Sometimes life-saving even. There's a reason there are sugars in mother's milk.

    Context matters. Excess or added sugars are unnecessary and can be detrimental to nutritional and metabolic health and weight goals. Do you really want to take a position on the other side of that?

    Yes

    My contention would be, as someone without a medical condition that contraindicates sugar consumption that if I meet my macro and micro nutritional requirements I can fill the rest of my calorie allowance with cotton candy or tablespoons of granulated sugar if I wish with no health detriment (beyond potential dental)
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    The Institutes of Medicine recognise that the amount of dietary carbohydrate intake compatible with life is apparently zero. Eating sugar isn't necessary. It may be a useful food ingredient, pleasurable, desirable, even optimal, but not necessary for life as an external input.
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