There are 'BAD' foods

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  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    RGv2 wrote: »
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    I posted the wrong one! My bad :(
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
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    I posted the wrong one! My bad :(

    You pretty much nailed it...then I saw this one and LOL'd.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
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  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
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    Guess I'm never eating again :/
  • TheBeachgod
    TheBeachgod Posts: 825 Member
    I'm addicted to bad foods.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
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    My wife struggles with Worcestershire sauce.

    Instead of "worce-ster-shire," it'll come out "wor-Chester-shire" if she doesn't stop to think about it.
  • CooCooPuff
    CooCooPuff Posts: 4,374 Member
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    It remember the first time I heard the proper pronunciation for quinoa. Why is the poutine angry?

  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,179 Member
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    I love that the more educated you are, the more variety you can eat. Though I'm really irked that I can't eat Croatian food. That shiz is hard!
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,068 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Do I need to go back to page 7 and read from where I left off or can I assume I know how this went

    Highlights reel anyone ?

    There was some interesting talk, imo, about the nature of words and how we talk about things somewhere around page 17. But no one wanted to talk about that. Mostly it's the same old arguments again and again just like every other thread like this.

    For what it's worth, I fully appreciated what you had to say there. I just didn't feel I could said anything to make it better. :)

    Well...except the m&m up dad's nose. And I don't think that story really got the love it deserved.
    Oh well.

    I was heavy into the unpopular "nature of words" sub-thread, but I nonetheless found your story quite wonderful. Kinda glad I grew up in a lower-drama bunch, though. (NB: Banana allusion sort of intentional.)
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    edited January 2016
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Do I need to go back to page 7 and read from where I left off or can I assume I know how this went

    Highlights reel anyone ?

    There was some interesting talk, imo, about the nature of words and how we talk about things somewhere around page 17. But no one wanted to talk about that. Mostly it's the same old arguments again and again just like every other thread like this.

    For what it's worth, I fully appreciated what you had to say there. I just didn't feel I could said anything to make it better. :)

    Well...except the m&m up dad's nose. And I don't think that story really got the love it deserved.
    Oh well.

    I was heavy into the unpopular "nature of words" sub-thread, but I nonetheless found your story quite wonderful. Kinda glad I grew up in a lower-drama bunch, though. (NB: Banana allusion sort of intentional.)

    Lol yeah that drama was hardly standard.
    Dad's goofiness was standard though. Lol
  • pvn23
    pvn23 Posts: 5 Member
    If you see food as good and bad, you have yourself an eating disorder. You should see food as food. Obviously, you'll get fat if you eat too much food. The only food that are bad are foods that are spoiled.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    kkenseth wrote: »
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    Guess I'm never eating again :/

    Heh, I can pronounce all those, but only bc my subculture was an early adopter re quinoa, so I've been able to be judge re mispronunciations for years, and when I drank a bunch of wine I also studied up on it.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited January 2016
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
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    My wife struggles with Worcestershire sauce.

    Instead of "worce-ster-shire," it'll come out "wor-Chester-shire" if she doesn't stop to think about it.

    I went to college in MA. They have even more whacked out ways of pronouncing it. Wiister.

    It's basically wouster or maybe worster.
  • allaboutthefood
    allaboutthefood Posts: 781 Member
    Some people may feel there are no "bad" foods but there is a difference in the amount of food you can eat, bad vs good. I believe that yes some foods are better for you than others, doesn't matter if they fit within your calories or not. But everyone has the right to their opinion and everyone can eat what they want. rhttp://shareably.net/this-is-what-200-calories-of-food-looks-like/
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Some people may feel there are no "bad" foods but there is a difference in the amount of food you can eat, bad vs good.

    So lower cals=good; high cals=bad.

    Hmm.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
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    My wife struggles with Worcestershire sauce.

    Instead of "worce-ster-shire," it'll come out "wor-Chester-shire" if she doesn't stop to think about it.

    I went to college in MA. They have even more whacked out ways of pronouncing it. Wiister.

    It's basically wouster or maybe worster.

    I'm from MA. I was thinking that. Wousta. And Peabody is peabuddy, but said very quickly.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    tomteboda wrote: »
    Wetcoaster wrote: »
    This is an interesting study

    http://news.meta.com/2015/11/19/cell-nutrition-is-personal-identical-foods-produce-healthy-and-unhealthy-responses-in-different-individuals/

    Nutrition is personal. A high degree of variability exists in the responses of different people to the same food.

    The collected observations further revealed both an individual’s responses to the same food were reproducible, and that there exists a high levels of variability in the responses of different individuals to the same foods. The researchers found that the food associated with an individual’s highest glucose response varied greatly between individuals. Foods that induced a “healthy” response in one individual might induce an “unhealthy” response in another. In a particularly compelling figure, the researchers showed an example where two participants had opposite responses to cookies and bananas

    I don't feel this study really makes a case why normal blood sugar fluctuations following meals are unhealthy in and of themselves, particularly as their illustrated levels look well within established post-meal guidelines. The R-value correlations with obesity and H1CA levels, never mind actual disease, are unconvincing in establishing a causal effect. Thus labeling the fluctuations in blood glucose "healthy" and "unhealthy" seems a long stretch here.
    When applying this study to those that don't have defective genes for glucose metabolism (diabetes genes) in the first place, I can understand your point. But for those that do have these genes, an unusually high surge after meals is problematic.

    pretty sure nothing in this thread is about anyone with a medical condition ….

    we understand that some people may need to avoid insulin spikes due to medical condition, but every single post on this board does not need that disclaimer.
    I don't know if you read that study, but there were prediabetics included in it. So if we are going to discuss it, that must be taken into account.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't pre-diabetes a catch all term to define those at risk of developing diabetes due to all possible factors eg those without a genetic marker but with obesity? And haven't many with pre diabetes effectively become non pre diabetic by dropping weight?
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    tomteboda wrote: »
    I don't know if you read that study, but there were prediabetics included in it. So if we are going to discuss it, that must be taken into account.
    1. Pre-diabetes means "you are at risk for getting diabetes". It is not itself a disease state. It also isn't a very good predictor of disease state (15%-30% of people will develop diabetes? that means somewhere between 70-85% won't).
    2. I haven't seen anything convincing that any and all blood glucose spikes in response to eating are bad for anyone. Not even diabetics. Only excessively high spikes ( >180 mg/dL)
    3. In diabetics, insulin response is borked, so you frequently see unmodulated spikes of >300 mg/dL right after meals.
    4. None of the data in this study as released suggested the individuals studied were having massive blood sugar spikes; they were all well within the 180 mg/dL recommendation.
    5. Redefining "bad" blood sugar spikes as those above 115 (which the article doesn't do but the press release does through graphs) requires a quite a bit of justification, which is entirely lacking.

    Strike the Spike - Diabetes Self-Management
    Checking Your Blood Glucose - American Diabetes Association
    Management of Hyperglycemia in Type2 Diabetes - A Patient Centered Approach (Diabetes Care 2012)

    Turns page

    Right that does it ...you are now on my official cerebral crush list
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    kkenseth wrote: »
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    Guess I'm never eating again :/

    Heh, I can pronounce all those, but only bc my subculture was an early adopter re quinoa, so I've been able to be judge re mispronunciations for years, and when I drank a bunch of wine I also studied up on it.

    I get to EAT ALL THE THINGS. (Languages are my gravy.)
    I did pronounce it kinOa for years. :anguished:
  • MommyL2015
    MommyL2015 Posts: 1,411 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
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    My wife struggles with Worcestershire sauce.

    Instead of "worce-ster-shire," it'll come out "wor-Chester-shire" if she doesn't stop to think about it.

    I went to college in MA. They have even more whacked out ways of pronouncing it. Wiister.

    It's basically wouster or maybe worster.

    I grew up in western MA. (Thankfully. I cannot stand Boston speak.) It's Wistah. No "R" in the Boston language, apparently. And Gloucester is Glostah.

    In SC we have a county called Horry county and the first time I pronounced it at work after I moved here, everyone laughed at me (in fun, they weren't meanies). Apparently, the "H" is silent, so it's pronounced Orry.

    I took some paper, wrote down Worcester and Gloucester and asked them to pronounce them. Who's laughing now? LOL
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    I remember asking where LEO-minster was when I was up there years ago. When folks said do you mean "LEN mistah" I had no idea what the hell they were saying.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I love odd ways to pronounce words

    Try and do Featherstonehaugh :bigsmile:
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I love odd ways to pronounce words

    Try and do Featherstonehaugh :bigsmile:

    OMG....it sounds dirty. My tongue and lower lip were doing a dance. Morning rabbit!

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Morning turtle :smile:

    It's Fanshaw by the way .. chuckles
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Morning turtle :smile:

    It's Fanshaw by the way .. chuckles

    Ha! My tongue was working overtime. Hmmm.....are the English.....nvm.......it will sound worse then I intend.

  • LexiLuLexi
    LexiLuLexi Posts: 12 Member
    edited January 2016
    echmain wrote: »
    Don't use government pronouncements as a basis for foods that are "good", "bad", or otherwise.

    Those statements are not based on science, they are based in Politics. Everything they say and do is the result of a lobbyist writing a check.

    THIS! Read Health at Every Size and you'll quickly realise how much of the 'healthy guidelines' we're given is complete crap.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Health at every size

    oh nm
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    edited January 2016
    LeluLexi wrote: »
    echmain wrote: »
    Don't use government pronouncements as a basis for foods that are "good", "bad", or otherwise.

    Those statements are not based on science, they are based in Politics. Everything they say and do is the result of a lobbyist writing a check.

    THIS! Read Health at Every Size and you'll quickly realise how much of the 'healthy guidelines' we're given is complete crap.

    Health at Any Size. Take a look at this. Obesity rates are lower for people over 65+ than those 45-64 and in many cases lower than those 26-44. Did all the 65+ suddenly decide to watch their diet and start exercising or are the obese dying off faster? Early death is usually not a sign of good health.

    http://stateofobesity.org/obesity-by-age/
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Some people may feel there are no "bad" foods but there is a difference in the amount of food you can eat, bad vs good. I believe that yes some foods are better for you than others, doesn't matter if they fit within your calories or not. But everyone has the right to their opinion and everyone can eat what they want. rhttp://shareably.net/this-is-what-200-calories-of-food-looks-like/

    calorie dense does not equal bad, it just means it has more calories.

    what matter is ones overall diet and meeting micro, macro, and calorie targets.