People That Think Low-Carb is Good For You are Wrong
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SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage wrote: »
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Why must we always be telling others what to eat?
I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.
Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight
If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.
But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.
Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying
So you're saying that if I ate 5,000 calories of vegetables per day, I wouldn't gain weight? Even though my TDEE is around 2,000 calories per day?
Go for it! I bet you'll feel alot better!0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Anything in a caloric excess will cause one to gain weight. Fact. I can't eat 3000 calories a day of just fruits and vegetables and think that because it is plant based that I won't gain weight.
Two, ketosis is not hurtful in the short term or the long term, unless someone has an underlying condition like liver or kidney failure.
Also, how about you do you and let other people worry about what and how they fill their own plates. Just some friendly advice.
Eating meat isn't a personal choice so I wont let "them do them".
Huh? <scratches head>
A personal choice isn't a personal choice when it comes at the expense of someone else.0 -
Bunch of moderators defending low carb and keto
Ya gotta laugh
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You might actually want to understand nutrition prior to making all of these sweeping claims.0
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rileysowner wrote: »Anything in a caloric excess will cause one to gain weight. Fact. I can't eat 3000 calories a day of just fruits and vegetables and think that because it is plant based that I won't gain weight.
Two, ketosis is not hurtful in the short term or the long term, unless someone has an underlying condition like liver or kidney failure.
Also, how about you do you and let other people worry about what and how they fill their own plates. Just some friendly advice.
Eating meat isn't a personal choice so I wont let "them do them".
That is your problem isn't it. Eating meat is a personal choice, but you want to infringe on the choices of others. Good luck with that.
A personal choice isn't a personal choice when it comes at the expense of someone else; thought I'd let you know 0 -
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Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.
We might want to tell the doctors who prescibe keto diets to patients that's it's harmful, in the long-term...0 -
To each his own!!!!0
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SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage wrote: »SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage wrote: »
Still waiting for a response...
Oh wow, you're older than me and can point out my age! I bet you have a lot more experience than I do!0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Why must we always be telling others what to eat?
I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.
Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight
If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.
But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.
Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying
So you're saying that if I ate 5,000 calories of vegetables per day, I wouldn't gain weight? Even though my TDEE is around 2,000 calories per day?
Go for it! I bet you'll feel alot better!
No, I wouldn't feel better. I would be obese.0 -
coreyreichle wrote: »Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.
We might want to tell the doctors who prescibe keto diets to patients that's it's harmful, in the long-term...
I totally agree with doctors! Eating massive amounts of saturated fats is important for the human body! (Not srs..)0 -
I don't see a whole lot of nutrition in your food diary. I think I'll stick to my diet, it contains a lot more plants.0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Why must we always be telling others what to eat?
I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.
Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight
If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.
But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.
Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying
So you're saying that if I ate 5,000 calories of vegetables per day, I wouldn't gain weight? Even though my TDEE is around 2,000 calories per day?
Go for it! I bet you'll feel alot better!
No, I wouldn't feel better. I would be obese.
My bad, eating a ton of veggies is so bad for you! Go back to eating your saturated fatty foods!0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »
Well now I feel stupid .,,and there I was reciting The Raven and everything
That makes so much more sense
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Well, as much as I don't buy into the miracles some people claim about low carb, neither do I buy into your doom and gloom.
The only thing that I would be concerned with on a keto diet is that animal studies show it can make carbohydrate intolerance worse - even if insulin sensitivity improves, long-term ketosis can reduce the production of insulin, reducing the body's ability to regulate blood sugar after the keto diet ends. I don't think it's well studied in people but my guess is that the effect is short term.
Other than that, it's calories that make you fat, not any specific macro.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Why must we always be telling others what to eat?
I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.
Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight
If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.
But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.
Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying
So you're saying that if I ate 5,000 calories of vegetables per day, I wouldn't gain weight? Even though my TDEE is around 2,000 calories per day?
Go for it! I bet you'll feel alot better!
No, I wouldn't feel better. I would be obese.
My bad, eating a ton of veggies is so bad for you! Go back to eating your saturated fatty foods!
Do you have a peer reviewed study that states you can eat in a caloric surplus and not gain weight?
Also, how do all of these non-HCLF people lose weight if we're all doomed to be fat forever?0 -
SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage wrote: »SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage wrote: »
Still waiting for a response...
Oh wow, you're older than me and can point out my age! I bet you have a lot more experience than I do!
Age is generally relevant to life experience yaknow0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Why must we always be telling others what to eat?
I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.
Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight
If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.
But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.
Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying
So you're saying that if I ate 5,000 calories of vegetables per day, I wouldn't gain weight? Even though my TDEE is around 2,000 calories per day?
Go for it! I bet you'll feel alot better!
No, I wouldn't feel better. I would be obese.
My bad, eating a ton of veggies is so bad for you! Go back to eating your saturated fatty foods!
Eating a ton of any type of food is going to be bad for you unless it's eaten over a long stretch of time. Eating more vegetables than what provides necessary nutrients isn't always good for us.0 -
SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage wrote: »SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage wrote: »
Still waiting for a response...
Oh wow, you're older than me and can point out my age! I bet you have a lot more experience than I do!
Well, considering I lost 90lbs, then had a child, then lost 65lbs, all in a reasonable time frame and without consideration for avoiding carbs, I'd say you're right.
ETA - right about me having more experience....0 -
Everyone that thinks a low-carb is good for you and will work in the long-term is wrong. You're pushing your bodies into an ill state called Ketosis. Your body runs off of carbs, I eat 600g of carbs a day with under 40g of protein and 20g of fats. This uninformative and lieing industry is telling us that meat, dairy, and eggs are good for us? That stuff is loaded with cholesterol and will end up hurting you in the long run. Eat a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet and live life to the fullest.
Ah, to be 19 and know everything again.
I think you're confusing ketosis with ketoacidosis.
But on with the show:
Cite your sources. Because as written, it's just your unsubstantiated opinion.
As noted by the Mayo Clinic, "low-carb diets may help prevent or improve serious health conditions, such as metabolic syndrome, diabetes, high blood pressure and cardiovascular disease."(http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/low-carb-diet/art-20045831?pg=2)
As documented by the Cleveland Clinic, "The ketogenic diet is a way of treating patients with poorly controlled epilepsy." (http://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases_conditions/hic_Epilepsy_Frequently_Asked_Questions/hic_Introduction_to_the_Ketogenic_Diet)
And WebMD reports "Some research suggests that ketogenic diets can help lower your risk of heart disease. Other studies show specific very-low-carb diets help people with metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance, and type 2 diabetes. Researchers are also studying the effects of these diets on acne, cancer, polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), and nervous system diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and Lou Gehrig's disease."(http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/type-1-diabetes-guide/what-is-ketosis)
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I am watching "my diet is better than your diet" on ABC and from what I can tell -- the guy who is on the no diet is winning. It is not what you are eating-- well unless you are eating tons of cookies and ice cream and diet soda--but it is more in how much we are eating and the fact that we are not moving. Crazy diet things like adding Chia seeds or eating quinoa all the time-- seriously-- when you are not dieting-- you are not going to continue to eat that stuff. So I am starting the no diet diet-- and watching my portions -- we all eat way too much at one time, and I am trying to exercise/move more. The solution to weight loss is really simple -- eat less, move more. We are just pretty much a lazy society that does not move much --how many of you drive around until you get a closer parking spot to the store entrance, or drive your kid to the bus stop, or go to the drive-in fast food window? And we eat too much -- do you super size at the fast food restaurant? Do you eat the huge portion served at the restaurant? Do you pile too much food on your plate at dinner or too much cereal in that bowl at breakfast? We consume Big Gulps and triple scoop ice cream cones. We all need to watch the amount we take in and try to move more than we are currently doing.
This!
Except for the diet soda thing.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Why must we always be telling others what to eat?
I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.
Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight
If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.
But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.
Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying
So you're saying that if I ate 5,000 calories of vegetables per day, I wouldn't gain weight? Even though my TDEE is around 2,000 calories per day?
Go for it! I bet you'll feel alot better!
No, I wouldn't feel better. I would be obese.
My bad, eating a ton of veggies is so bad for you! Go back to eating your saturated fatty foods!
Do you have a peer reviewed study that states you can eat in a caloric surplus and not gain weight?
Also, how do all of these non-HCLF people lose weight if we're all doomed to be fat forever?
You can lose weight on any diet as long as you have a calorie deficit.0 -
SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage wrote: »SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage wrote: »
Still waiting for a response...
Oh wow, you're older than me and can point out my age! I bet you have a lot more experience than I do!
Age is generally relevant to life experience yaknow
As the OP is proving - more and more with each post.
He just wants attention - like any other troll, ignore him and he'll go away.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Why must we always be telling others what to eat?
I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.
Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight
If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.
But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.
Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying
Fat vegan here. No lies...I just make d@mn good vegan cupcakes.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Why must we always be telling others what to eat?
I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.
Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight
If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.
But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.
Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying
So you're saying that if I ate 5,000 calories of vegetables per day, I wouldn't gain weight? Even though my TDEE is around 2,000 calories per day?
Go for it! I bet you'll feel alot better!
No, I wouldn't feel better. I would be obese.
My bad, eating a ton of veggies is so bad for you! Go back to eating your saturated fatty foods!
Do you have a peer reviewed study that states you can eat in a caloric surplus and not gain weight?
Also, how do all of these non-HCLF people lose weight if we're all doomed to be fat forever?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/75980630 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Why must we always be telling others what to eat?
I mean if those people want to physically harm themselves through their diets, then so be it.
Eating a high carb, low fat, vegan/vegetarian (low dairy) diet in no way guarantees you won't be sick or overweight or can't live life to the fullest.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/mar/passionate.htm -- Plant carbs do not cause you to gain excess weight
If that were even remotely true, then I wouldn't know any fat/overweight/obese vegans.
But unfortunately, I know many obese people of those lifestyles.
Then they're lying and are eating things they aren't saying
So you're saying that if I ate 5,000 calories of vegetables per day, I wouldn't gain weight? Even though my TDEE is around 2,000 calories per day?
Go for it! I bet you'll feel alot better!
No, I wouldn't feel better. I would be obese.
My bad, eating a ton of veggies is so bad for you! Go back to eating your saturated fatty foods!
Do you have a peer reviewed study that states you can eat in a caloric surplus and not gain weight?
Also, how do all of these non-HCLF people lose weight if we're all doomed to be fat forever?
You can lose weight on any diet as long as you have a calorie deficit.
And you can be healthy on any diet.
If that wasn't true, than I would question how my family has lived into their upper 90's (and still kicking) on a meat and potatoes diet.0
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