Why are so many excluding milk from their diet?
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stevencloser wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Just curious. What people arr paying for milk. Some have mentioned cost as a reason for limiting or avoiding milk. The great value milk at our local walmart has been under $1.50 a gallon for months. Last night it was $1.18 a gallon.
Seems pretty cost effective for the nutrient density.
$3.50 for 1L of cows milk. $3.90 for 1L of Almond milk
That's crazy expensive. Where are you?
It's more like $2 / litre.
https://www.woolworths.com.au/Shop/Browse/eggs-dairy-fridge/skim-reduced-fat-milk0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Just curious. What people arr paying for milk. Some have mentioned cost as a reason for limiting or avoiding milk. The great value milk at our local walmart has been under $1.50 a gallon for months. Last night it was $1.18 a gallon.
Seems pretty cost effective for the nutrient density.
$3.50 for 1L of cows milk. $3.90 for 1L of Almond milk
That's crazy expensive. Where are you?
It's more like $2 / litre.
https://www.woolworths.com.au/Shop/Browse/eggs-dairy-fridge/skim-reduced-fat-milk
And almond milk is nearly twice as much.
https://www.woolworths.com.au/Shop/Search/Products?searchTerm=Almond milk0 -
nevereverend wrote: »Possibly because an 8oz glass of milk is from 125-150 calories? Also some may have issues with digestion of lactose when taken by itself.
People make changes in their diets due to cost too.
Seriously overstating the calorie content. Fat Free milk has 80-90 calories per 8oz serving, but offers up 8g of protein.
Right on about so many people having issues digesting lactose, though. Also, milk has a fairly high carb/sugar count due to the lactose -- which can cause insulin spiking, as well.
Fat free milk is white water. And it's disgusting0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Just curious. What people arr paying for milk. Some have mentioned cost as a reason for limiting or avoiding milk. The great value milk at our local walmart has been under $1.50 a gallon for months. Last night it was $1.18 a gallon.
Seems pretty cost effective for the nutrient density.
$3.50 for 1L of cows milk. $3.90 for 1L of Almond milk
That's crazy expensive. Where are you?
It's more like $2 / litre.
https://www.woolworths.com.au/Shop/Browse/eggs-dairy-fridge/skim-reduced-fat-milk
Depends which one you use. I drink.. The complete dairy high protein milk which is $3.50 for 1L at Foodland, will be switching to Woolies tho which sells it for 2.99.
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Christine_72 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Just curious. What people arr paying for milk. Some have mentioned cost as a reason for limiting or avoiding milk. The great value milk at our local walmart has been under $1.50 a gallon for months. Last night it was $1.18 a gallon.
Seems pretty cost effective for the nutrient density.
$3.50 for 1L of cows milk. $3.90 for 1L of Almond milk
That's crazy expensive. Where are you?
It's more like $2 / litre.
https://www.woolworths.com.au/Shop/Browse/eggs-dairy-fridge/skim-reduced-fat-milk
Depends which one you use. I drink.. The complete dairy high protein milk which is $3.50 for 1L at Foodland, will be switching to Woolies tho which sells it for 2.99.
We're pretty lucky. We have 2 supercenter type stores, 2 large full service chain grocery stores, a Fresh Market, Sam's Club and an Aldi's within 3/4 of a mile of each other in the area where we shop. Tends to keep prices down, like the $1.18 a gallon.0 -
I've never liked the taste of cow's milk.
I use cream in my coffee and almond or coconut milk in smoothies, etc.
I also eat cheese, cream cheese and occasionally yogurt or ice cream.0 -
8 bucks a gallon for whole raw milk. 3.99 for a liter of Fairlife. (I think it's a liter).0
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I don't get it I love milk sometimes I just drink a glass for protein and also to help gain extra calories if I'm really low by the end of the day0
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The calories arent that high for milk. 130cals for 250ml of light milk. I rarely drink a plain glass of milk, for which I'd prefer the full fat version, but lite tastes fine to me in tea, coffee or smoothies0
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I don't get it. I can understand not liking milk, but to exclude it solely because of dieting purposes? Am I missing something.
Milk is such an easy way to get in your protein. Fairlife milk provides me with 13 grams of protein per cup. If you love milk, I don't see any reason to stop drinking it.
I like milk, it just doesnt like me back, so Im experimenting with alternatives like almond/coconut/rice, especially unsweetened and low calorie versions.0 -
Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »
so no cheese or ice cream? sad
Oh I do have cheese. I was eating goat cheese in my salad as I answered this post.
But goat's milk is free from pus. Good to know.
I don't drink the milk. I eat the cheese, which tends to have further pasteurization which destroys a lot of the bacteria. Any rate, goat cheese is easier on my stomach and that's what I go by.
Pus isn't bacteria. "Pus" is just a name for dead white blood cells. Pasteurization certainly isn't bringing them back to life.
For that matter, basically every animal product contains some quantity of dead white blood cells, because all animal tissue has some kind of blood supply.
All milk of all species contains it, too, since mammary ducts are a potential entry point for bacteria and thus the body is required to be able to mount an immune response against invasion.0 -
I like having more calories for other foods. Instead of milk I will use Almond milk. Only 30 calories for 1 cup. I don't like the taste of milk, I would only use it in cereal, oatmeal, etc. Switching to Almond milk doesn't bother me.0
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rankinsect wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »
so no cheese or ice cream? sad
Oh I do have cheese. I was eating goat cheese in my salad as I answered this post.
But goat's milk is free from pus. Good to know.
I don't drink the milk. I eat the cheese, which tends to have further pasteurization which destroys a lot of the bacteria. Any rate, goat cheese is easier on my stomach and that's what I go by.
Pus isn't bacteria. "Pus" is just a name for dead white blood cells. Pasteurization certainly isn't bringing them back to life.
For that matter, basically every animal product contains some quantity of dead white blood cells, because all animal tissue has some kind of blood supply.
All milk of all species contains it, too, since mammary ducts are a potential entry point for bacteria and thus the body is required to be able to mount an immune response against invasion.
Dead white blood cells in your food ... no, sorry, doesn't sound any more appetising than pus to me.
Also, there's a reason why they carry out 'pus counts' (somatic cell counts) .... farmers are penalised for high counts and rewarded for low ones, and if the count is too high then the milk is deemed unfit for human consumption.0 -
If I drink milk with pus, can I stop taking probiotics?0
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TrickyDisco wrote: »rankinsect wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »
so no cheese or ice cream? sad
Oh I do have cheese. I was eating goat cheese in my salad as I answered this post.
But goat's milk is free from pus. Good to know.
I don't drink the milk. I eat the cheese, which tends to have further pasteurization which destroys a lot of the bacteria. Any rate, goat cheese is easier on my stomach and that's what I go by.
Pus isn't bacteria. "Pus" is just a name for dead white blood cells. Pasteurization certainly isn't bringing them back to life.
For that matter, basically every animal product contains some quantity of dead white blood cells, because all animal tissue has some kind of blood supply.
All milk of all species contains it, too, since mammary ducts are a potential entry point for bacteria and thus the body is required to be able to mount an immune response against invasion.
Dead white blood cells in your food ... no, sorry, doesn't sound any more appetising than pus to me.
Also, there's a reason why they carry out 'pus counts' (somatic cell counts) .... farmers are penalised for high counts and rewarded for low ones, and if the count is too high then the milk is deemed unfit for human consumption.
Is it really any less appetizing-sounding or a more ridiculous statement than 'dead plant embryos in your food' if I were anti-nut/seed?
I suppose for maximum shock value I should rephrase to 'dead plant fetuses' or some such. And I'm sure someone can find a gif to suit.
It's a cell. Cells are in all living things. If you eat anything that's ever been alive, you're eating live or dead cells. Nothing makes a white blood cell more or less disgusting or appropriate to eat than a plant cell or a yeast cell or a skin cell or a muscle cell.
ETA: This thread is just ... it explains a lot.0 -
TrickyDisco wrote: »rankinsect wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »
so no cheese or ice cream? sad
Oh I do have cheese. I was eating goat cheese in my salad as I answered this post.
But goat's milk is free from pus. Good to know.
I don't drink the milk. I eat the cheese, which tends to have further pasteurization which destroys a lot of the bacteria. Any rate, goat cheese is easier on my stomach and that's what I go by.
Pus isn't bacteria. "Pus" is just a name for dead white blood cells. Pasteurization certainly isn't bringing them back to life.
For that matter, basically every animal product contains some quantity of dead white blood cells, because all animal tissue has some kind of blood supply.
All milk of all species contains it, too, since mammary ducts are a potential entry point for bacteria and thus the body is required to be able to mount an immune response against invasion.
Dead white blood cells in your food ... no, sorry, doesn't sound any more appetising than pus to me.
Also, there's a reason why they carry out 'pus counts' (somatic cell counts) .... farmers are penalised for high counts and rewarded for low ones, and if the count is too high then the milk is deemed unfit for human consumption.
Is it really any less appetizing-sounding or a more ridiculous statement than 'dead plant embryos in your food' if I were anti-nut/seed?
I suppose for maximum shock value I should rephrase to 'dead plant fetuses' or some such.
It's a cell. Cells are in all living things. If you eat anything that's ever been alive, you're eating live or dead cells. Nothing makes a white blood cell more or less disgusting or appropriate to eat than a plant cell or a yeast cell or a skin cell or a muscle cell.
But propaganda sounds so much more convincing when one tries to use gross words to describe things that don't fit their agenda.0 -
I just drink a cup of milk a day. I consider anything more to be a waste of calories.0
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TrickyDisco wrote: »rankinsect wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »
so no cheese or ice cream? sad
Oh I do have cheese. I was eating goat cheese in my salad as I answered this post.
But goat's milk is free from pus. Good to know.
I don't drink the milk. I eat the cheese, which tends to have further pasteurization which destroys a lot of the bacteria. Any rate, goat cheese is easier on my stomach and that's what I go by.
Pus isn't bacteria. "Pus" is just a name for dead white blood cells. Pasteurization certainly isn't bringing them back to life.
For that matter, basically every animal product contains some quantity of dead white blood cells, because all animal tissue has some kind of blood supply.
All milk of all species contains it, too, since mammary ducts are a potential entry point for bacteria and thus the body is required to be able to mount an immune response against invasion.
Dead white blood cells in your food ... no, sorry, doesn't sound any more appetising than pus to me.
Also, there's a reason why they carry out 'pus counts' (somatic cell counts) .... farmers are penalised for high counts and rewarded for low ones, and if the count is too high then the milk is deemed unfit for human consumption.
Is it really any less appetizing-sounding or a more ridiculous statement than 'dead plant embryos in your food' if I were anti-nut/seed?
I suppose for maximum shock value I should rephrase to 'dead plant fetuses' or some such.
It's a cell. Cells are in all living things. If you eat anything that's ever been alive, you're eating live or dead cells. Nothing makes a white blood cell more or less disgusting or appropriate to eat than a plant cell or a yeast cell or a skin cell or a muscle cell.
But propaganda sounds so much more convincing when one tries to use gross words to describe things that don't fit their agenda.
Ot but this reminds me of people who say the red liquid from red meat is blood and call medium-rare, etc bloody so they cook it more to get rid of the blood. No, no,no. It is not blood.0 -
Grew up in dairy country. Worked in dairies. Milked cows.
Leaving this thread before the ignorance blinds me. Don't believe everything you read, folks, especially if it comes from that lunatic Food Babe.0 -
Cyndiaquino wrote: »I like having more calories for other foods. Instead of milk I will use Almond milk. Only 30 calories for 1 cup. I don't like the taste of milk, I would only use it in cereal, oatmeal, etc. Switching to Almond milk doesn't bother me.
But almond milk is nothing more than strained nut-water.
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Completely irrelevant to the thread question but I have seen comments about milk being pus....uhm regardless of whether its dead cells blah blah....if you are turned off by consuming pus....wouldn't you be absolutely loath to eat flesh ? Sometimes I wonder about people. I'm not vegan either before the comments start...just curious at the logic0
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I love milk but I am watching saturated fats. I used soy milk in my cereal because the rest of the family wont drink 1% or skim milk0
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jofjltncb6 wrote: »Cyndiaquino wrote: »I like having more calories for other foods. Instead of milk I will use Almond milk. Only 30 calories for 1 cup. I don't like the taste of milk, I would only use it in cereal, oatmeal, etc. Switching to Almond milk doesn't bother me.
But almond milk is nothing more than strained nut-water.
mmmmm nut water0 -
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I love all dairy, I just can't eat or drink it.
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YES! @ ^^^^^0
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6502programmer wrote: »
Either or I would assume, put the nuts in a blender and blend them with a really sharp blade and then put them in cheese cloth and squeeze the *kitten* out of them....sounds delicious0 -
TrickyDisco wrote: »rankinsect wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Squirrel698 wrote: »
so no cheese or ice cream? sad
Oh I do have cheese. I was eating goat cheese in my salad as I answered this post.
But goat's milk is free from pus. Good to know.
I don't drink the milk. I eat the cheese, which tends to have further pasteurization which destroys a lot of the bacteria. Any rate, goat cheese is easier on my stomach and that's what I go by.
Pus isn't bacteria. "Pus" is just a name for dead white blood cells. Pasteurization certainly isn't bringing them back to life.
For that matter, basically every animal product contains some quantity of dead white blood cells, because all animal tissue has some kind of blood supply.
All milk of all species contains it, too, since mammary ducts are a potential entry point for bacteria and thus the body is required to be able to mount an immune response against invasion.
Dead white blood cells in your food ... no, sorry, doesn't sound any more appetising than pus to me.
But... Steak is flesh cut off a dead cow. Eggs are little baby chicks who never had a chance. Foods with probiotics (like yogurt, sauer kraut, kimchi) are literally full of bacteria. Have you read about how many bacteria and parasites are living all over us and inside of us??? The whole slew of theories about gut health centers around what type of bacteria we have in our digestive system and if we are feeding them properly. There are viruses floating in the air and sitting on just about every surface you touch. There are dust mites in your bed, eating your dead skin cells.
Life is dirty. And if you think about it too much, it will give you the permanent willies.
That's why I drink alcohol too. It helps me think less about that sort of thing, and hopefully kills some of the little buggers on the way down.0
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