Confession Time! ((ABSOLUTELY NO JUDGEMENT))
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I've had 3 weeks of weight loss and I'm not sure my marriage will survive this time.1
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Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I recently spent over a week at Disney World, and 1) I don't like people in general anymore 2) especially foreigners.
This rubs me the wrong way and I'd like clarification about what you mean and why. I don't want to misunderstand your meaning unintentionally.
I don't like crowds, lines, or the general chaos that comes with a theme park, so I can definitely identify with not having a great time in that situation. It would be stressful and overwhelming to me, and I'd be exhausted.
What I don't understand is 1. How you classify someone as a "foreigner" (do you mean tourist? do you mean people who don't speak English well? do you mean people of color? do you mean people who aren't from the US?) or 2. Why you don't like them. Did something happen? Was there a language barrier that frustrated you?
This is an honest appeal for clarification by Bry Lander.
I do realize this is a "no judgment" zone. I don't think asking for clarification about someone's meaning is judgmental - in fact, I'm seeking the clarification in order to avoid such judgment.
Edit: Here's the thing though.... Confession: I really don't expect a response to this post. In my experience, people who say things that could be taken as inflammatory offhand rarely stick around to have a conversation about it. /shrug
I guess as a starting point, please review the title of this thread. My understanding is that this area is reserved for those who occasionally wish to escape the drudgery of political correctness and share real thoughts. So here is the explanation in response to your judgmental response:
I am applying the plain English meaning of the word “foreigner”, I am referencing people who are not citizens of the country that they are present in, which in my case, was the United States. I recognize accents, and heard English, German, Spanish, French, and various Asian dialects that I couldn’t place. If all I heard was Spanish, I may have concluded that many were American Hispanics. You can also tell by the clothing (especially shoes). I figured the family with "J'adore Disney" shirts weren't from Kansas. Without having the benefit of checking passports, I drew my conclusions accordingly. As far as drawing conclusions by color, what color are foreigners? Can you tell what country a European, S. American, or Asian is from solely by color? If so, you have an amazing talent.
Almost every notable rude interaction I had was with a foreigner. For example, when my young kids were standing along the street to watch a parade, two adults muscled their way in front of them and blocked them. When I asked them to move, they couldn’t understand / pretended not to understand, so we had to move. Bullying kids out of the way so an adult can view a parade of cartoon characters is awful behavior, sorry. There was also a lot of rudeness in line and oblivious photo-bombing that was mostly done by foreigners, but of course Americans did that as well. That is why I stated that I don’t like people “in general” any more, including Americans. Before you take offense to this, understand the tongue-in-cheek nature of such a statement.
In my travels to foreign countries (where I was indeed a foreigner, gasp), I went out of my way to be almost overly polite and tried to engage in situational awareness at all times. I didn’t trample people, speak loudly in a foreign language (English), or otherwise behave rudely. Most of those who visited Disney were also respectful, but many weren’t. Hence, my confession that was supposed to be absolutely judgment free, but apparently subjected me to serious judgment, as you implied that I am some sort of xenophobic racist by your comments.
Thanks for the explanation. Hope your next trip is filled with more happiness and less rudeness.
I understand how your snarky comments are probably coming from defensiveness. We are strangers interacting on the internet. I asked how you classified "foreigners" because that is a relevant distinction. Many people think of any non-Caucasian person as "foreign." I do no such thing, but was curious about whether you did because your initial comment was so offhand and completely open to interpretation. As you know, tone is completely vacant often in internet postings - I don't know you well enough to know what your tone is when you say any particular thing. Did you say you don't like foreigners in a "DEATH TO ALL WHO AREN'T LIKE ME" tone? Or in a "I had a lousy experience and am exaggerating in a tongue-in-cheek manner" tone? Which is why I asked for clarification. I admit my last paragraph was a bit judgmental.
As for the nature of this thread, I've been here for a long time and understand it completely. The long term posters in here know me and can attest that I'm one of the least judgmental people here. In all fairness, however, it wasn't my comment that implied you were a xenophobic racist - it was your own. And that's why I sought clarification. There are many people on this thread who are not from the US. Many of these people have become my close friends over the last year and a comment like that that I interpreted as judging these people, my friends, rubbed me the wrong way.
I will step away now, and let the thread return to its regular light-hearted awesomeness. Best wishes.
J, you are an awesome woman and I love you x5 -
Part 2:
Sunday we all got up and drove 3.5 hours to Dollywood. That turned out to be a lot of fun! I was expecting it to be a bit corny, but it really was and wasn't at the same time. Dolly Parton is really an amazing woman. We rode a water ride, got soaked and froze a good part of the afternoon, but then did several roller coasters that dried us out. We needed more time there, so now Nicci, Cherie, her Mom and I are all planning a second road trip next year with maybe 2 days (including spa) at Dollywood, a trip to Memphis, and maybe a few other places along the way. Maybe we'll start in Nashville with the marathon again next year. We have to work it out. I have Oman to visit next year too! Plus I registered for the London Marathon so we'll see if I get in there.
After Dollywood we went to a real American dinner in a real 1950's style diner. The British loved it!
I made them try corn bread (a hit), Texas Toast (not a hit), a root beer float (not a hit), cherry pie (some thought hit/others miss). Then a looooong drive home. I was exhausted. Nicci kept talking to me to keep me awake.
Monday we went to a plantation in the AM before I had to leave. Belle Mead. That was interesting, but it was pouring down rain and Nicci and Cherie were a bit disappointed that we didn't get to see more of the grounds of a real plantation (most of this was sold off) and learn more about the not so proud past of slavery. We had invited Tammy to join us but she wasn't able to so we never hooked up again. Maybe next time...!
I flew back Monday afternoon and returned to the 12 hour days in the CO on Tuesday. Today is Day 22 of the strike, Day 18 of non-repeating jeans. I am also going to consider it day 19 as I put on a pair of jeans that were so huge I took them off and put them in the to be donated pile and put on another pair.
Yesterday was very sad for me. Porch Kitten, whom I have been close to catching (would wait for me/follow me/come with in a foot of me) was killed by a car yesterday morning. I found him/her immediately after when I left for the CO. He/she was already dead, but it must have just happened, as I had just fed him/her. I am devastated. I picked him/her up but he/she was clearly dead and so I moved him/her to the side of the road. I wasn't sure what to do with him/her. I came home last night and he/she was still there so I dug a hole next to my porch and buried him/her. I am still really upset and sad about this.
And lastly, I am up an inordinate amount of weight. So, my plan was to go sober again after Nashville (not that I have been drinking much) and now I need to get rid of like 10!!! lbs. I can't understand how I could have gained so much weight working non-stop moving all day at the CO but there you go... I am up 10 lbs since this strike started.
So today is day 1 of #noalcohol (I don't like to say 'sober' it implies I am drunk and since I am very rarely drunk, I'll stick with no alcohol...). I'll see if I can beat Tami's streak after she quits sometime this month, I think (and she is doing amazingly well).
I have so many pictures but having issues with my phone synching to my computer, so need to sort that out then can post.
Take care, all. Back to wiring (and disconnecting) phone service.
Patricia
I'm so jealous that you went to Dollywood. I freaking love Dolly Parton - she's a good businesswoman, by all accounts a kind person, a talented songwriter, tough, clever, and I love that she does her own thing with her own style - and I've always wanted to go! I think our next US road trip is going to include a Dollywood trip too
Hi! Maybe come join the road trip next year with us... 2 days in Dollywood, a trip to Memphis, a marathon in there somewhere...
In never go to concerts, but she is coming pretty close to me in June. I may go see her. I always loved her but after seeing all she is doing for her community and the town she grew up in I am twice as infatuated with her.
Memphis will be about 6 hours from dollywood. Imagine a big confessions thread meet up at Dollywood, that would be awesome!
Dolly is an amazing person, brilliant business woman but everyone said what a nice person she is in real life.
There isn't a Dollywood marathon. But there is a smoky mountains marathon.... And there is the appalachian trail which I would love to hike some of1 -
orangesmartie wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I recently spent over a week at Disney World, and 1) I don't like people in general anymore 2) especially foreigners.
This rubs me the wrong way and I'd like clarification about what you mean and why. I don't want to misunderstand your meaning unintentionally.
I don't like crowds, lines, or the general chaos that comes with a theme park, so I can definitely identify with not having a great time in that situation. It would be stressful and overwhelming to me, and I'd be exhausted.
What I don't understand is 1. How you classify someone as a "foreigner" (do you mean tourist? do you mean people who don't speak English well? do you mean people of color? do you mean people who aren't from the US?) or 2. Why you don't like them. Did something happen? Was there a language barrier that frustrated you?
This is an honest appeal for clarification by Bry Lander.
I do realize this is a "no judgment" zone. I don't think asking for clarification about someone's meaning is judgmental - in fact, I'm seeking the clarification in order to avoid such judgment.
Edit: Here's the thing though.... Confession: I really don't expect a response to this post. In my experience, people who say things that could be taken as inflammatory offhand rarely stick around to have a conversation about it. /shrug
I guess as a starting point, please review the title of this thread. My understanding is that this area is reserved for those who occasionally wish to escape the drudgery of political correctness and share real thoughts. So here is the explanation in response to your judgmental response:
I am applying the plain English meaning of the word “foreigner”, I am referencing people who are not citizens of the country that they are present in, which in my case, was the United States. I recognize accents, and heard English, German, Spanish, French, and various Asian dialects that I couldn’t place. If all I heard was Spanish, I may have concluded that many were American Hispanics. You can also tell by the clothing (especially shoes). I figured the family with "J'adore Disney" shirts weren't from Kansas. Without having the benefit of checking passports, I drew my conclusions accordingly. As far as drawing conclusions by color, what color are foreigners? Can you tell what country a European, S. American, or Asian is from solely by color? If so, you have an amazing talent.
Almost every notable rude interaction I had was with a foreigner. For example, when my young kids were standing along the street to watch a parade, two adults muscled their way in front of them and blocked them. When I asked them to move, they couldn’t understand / pretended not to understand, so we had to move. Bullying kids out of the way so an adult can view a parade of cartoon characters is awful behavior, sorry. There was also a lot of rudeness in line and oblivious photo-bombing that was mostly done by foreigners, but of course Americans did that as well. That is why I stated that I don’t like people “in general” any more, including Americans. Before you take offense to this, understand the tongue-in-cheek nature of such a statement.
In my travels to foreign countries (where I was indeed a foreigner, gasp), I went out of my way to be almost overly polite and tried to engage in situational awareness at all times. I didn’t trample people, speak loudly in a foreign language (English), or otherwise behave rudely. Most of those who visited Disney were also respectful, but many weren’t. Hence, my confession that was supposed to be absolutely judgment free, but apparently subjected me to serious judgment, as you implied that I am some sort of xenophobic racist by your comments.
Thanks for the explanation. Hope your next trip is filled with more happiness and less rudeness.
I understand how your snarky comments are probably coming from defensiveness. We are strangers interacting on the internet. I asked how you classified "foreigners" because that is a relevant distinction. Many people think of any non-Caucasian person as "foreign." I do no such thing, but was curious about whether you did because your initial comment was so offhand and completely open to interpretation. As you know, tone is completely vacant often in internet postings - I don't know you well enough to know what your tone is when you say any particular thing. Did you say you don't like foreigners in a "DEATH TO ALL WHO AREN'T LIKE ME" tone? Or in a "I had a lousy experience and am exaggerating in a tongue-in-cheek manner" tone? Which is why I asked for clarification. I admit my last paragraph was a bit judgmental.
As for the nature of this thread, I've been here for a long time and understand it completely. The long term posters in here know me and can attest that I'm one of the least judgmental people here. In all fairness, however, it wasn't my comment that implied you were a xenophobic racist - it was your own. And that's why I sought clarification. There are many people on this thread who are not from the US. Many of these people have become my close friends over the last year and a comment like that that I interpreted as judging these people, my friends, rubbed me the wrong way.
I will step away now, and let the thread return to its regular light-hearted awesomeness. Best wishes.
J, you are an awesome woman and I love you x
Thanks Mo & N, and POF. I appreciate the
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I never got to a GNC while I was in the states and I can't seem to get them to ship to UK *pout*0
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There's a Dollywood 5k http://www.chattanoogan.com/2011/10/10/210959/Dollywood-Hosts-Light-The-Way-5K.aspx1
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I was born in the U.S.A. but lived most of my life in 'foreign' ( to you) countries. Does that count?0
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2011rocket3touring wrote: »I've had 3 weeks of weight loss and I'm not sure my marriage will survive this time.
Huh?
Are you becoming grumpy? Are you getting over controlling with your regimens and driving spouse batty?
Did you join the weight loss ventures with your wife and you are loosing and she is not?
Enquiring minds want to know.0 -
I'm all full of confessions lately. I logged a grilled chicken pita for lunch (macros) but I'm seriously debating ditching that and having Arby's instead, or something equally macro deficient. I think I deserve it after having had to choke down a buttered popcorn flavored protein shake...2 SCOOPS!!!
I could not have choked that stuff down. I have had one of those jelly beans and spat it out. That was before my weight loss venture when I would swallow almost anything.1 -
2011rocket3touring wrote: »I've had 3 weeks of weight loss and I'm not sure my marriage will survive this time.
Huh?
Are you becoming grumpy? Are you getting over controlling with your regimens and driving spouse batty?
Did you join the weight loss ventures with your wife and you are losing and she is not?
Inquiring minds want to know.
These are all great questions. (and I may or may not have corrected a few of your spelling errors. But it was out of love, Raymax, I SWEAR!
)
It hasn't been easy with my husband these past 2 years when I started getting healthier, but now, he's totally on board and he's even my lifting partner now.
Best of luck to you!2 -
orangesmartie wrote: »Part 2:
Sunday we all got up and drove 3.5 hours to Dollywood. That turned out to be a lot of fun! I was expecting it to be a bit corny, but it really was and wasn't at the same time. Dolly Parton is really an amazing woman. We rode a water ride, got soaked and froze a good part of the afternoon, but then did several roller coasters that dried us out. We needed more time there, so now Nicci, Cherie, her Mom and I are all planning a second road trip next year with maybe 2 days (including spa) at Dollywood, a trip to Memphis, and maybe a few other places along the way. Maybe we'll start in Nashville with the marathon again next year. We have to work it out. I have Oman to visit next year too! Plus I registered for the London Marathon so we'll see if I get in there.
After Dollywood we went to a real American dinner in a real 1950's style diner. The British loved it! I made them try corn bread (a hit), Texas Toast (not a hit), a root beer float (not a hit), cherry pie (some thought hit/others miss). Then a looooong drive home. I was exhausted. Nicci kept talking to me to keep me awake.
Monday we went to a plantation in the AM before I had to leave. Belle Mead. That was interesting, but it was pouring down rain and Nicci and Cherie were a bit disappointed that we didn't get to see more of the grounds of a real plantation (most of this was sold off) and learn more about the not so proud past of slavery. We had invited Tammy to join us but she wasn't able to so we never hooked up again. Maybe next time...!
I flew back Monday afternoon and returned to the 12 hour days in the CO on Tuesday. Today is Day 22 of the strike, Day 18 of non-repeating jeans. I am also going to consider it day 19 as I put on a pair of jeans that were so huge I took them off and put them in the to be donated pile and put on another pair.
Yesterday was very sad for me. Porch Kitten, whom I have been close to catching (would wait for me/follow me/come with in a foot of me) was killed by a car yesterday morning. I found him/her immediately after when I left for the CO. He/she was already dead, but it must have just happened, as I had just fed him/her. I am devastated. I picked him/her up but he/she was clearly dead and so I moved him/her to the side of the road. I wasn't sure what to do with him/her. I came home last night and he/she was still there so I dug a hole next to my porch and buried him/her. I am still really upset and sad about this.
And lastly, I am up an inordinate amount of weight. So, my plan was to go sober again after Nashville (not that I have been drinking much) and now I need to get rid of like 10!!! lbs. I can't understand how I could have gained so much weight working non-stop moving all day at the CO but there you go... I am up 10 lbs since this strike started.
So today is day 1 of #noalcohol (I don't like to say 'sober' it implies I am drunk and since I am very rarely drunk, I'll stick with no alcohol...). I'll see if I can beat Tami's streak after she quits sometime this month, I think (and she is doing amazingly well).
I have so many pictures but having issues with my phone synching to my computer, so need to sort that out then can post.
Take care, all. Back to wiring (and disconnecting) phone service.
Patricia
I'm so jealous that you went to Dollywood. I freaking love Dolly Parton - she's a good businesswoman, by all accounts a kind person, a talented songwriter, tough, clever, and I love that she does her own thing with her own style - and I've always wanted to go! I think our next US road trip is going to include a Dollywood trip too
Hi! Maybe come join the road trip next year with us... 2 days in Dollywood, a trip to Memphis, a marathon in there somewhere...
In never go to concerts, but she is coming pretty close to me in June. I may go see her. I always loved her but after seeing all she is doing for her community and the town she grew up in I am twice as infatuated with her.
Memphis will be about 6 hours from dollywood. Imagine a big confessions thread meet up at Dollywood, that would be awesome!
Dolly is an amazing person, brilliant business woman but everyone said what a nice person she is in real life.
There isn't a Dollywood marathon. But there is a smoky mountains marathon.... And there is the appalachian trail which I would love to hike some of
An Appalachian trail hike sounds marvelous!2 -
orangesmartie wrote: »I never got to a GNC while I was in the states and I can't seem to get them to ship to UK *pout*
Oh no!0 -
I'm all full of confessions lately. I logged a grilled chicken pita for lunch (macros) but I'm seriously debating ditching that and having Arby's instead, or something equally macro deficient. I think I deserve it after having had to choke down a buttered popcorn flavored protein shake...2 SCOOPS!!!
I stuck with my prelogged lunch and ate ALL OF IT. Glad it was something nutritionally sound and filling otherwise, I'd be in big trouble.3 -
orangesmartie wrote: »I never got to a GNC while I was in the states and I can't seem to get them to ship to UK *pout*
Oh no!
I'll bring an assortment in July. Just tell me what you want.1 -
2011rocket3touring wrote: »I've had 3 weeks of weight loss and I'm not sure my marriage will survive this time.
Huh?
Are you becoming grumpy? Are you getting over controlling with your regimens and driving spouse batty?
Did you join the weight loss ventures with your wife and you are losing and she is not?
Inquiring minds want to know.
These are all great questions. (and I may or may not have corrected a few of your spelling errors. But it was out of love, Raymax, I SWEAR! )
It hasn't been easy with my husband these past 2 years when I started getting healthier, but now, he's totally on board and he's even my lifting partner now.
Best of luck to you!
I remember when you used to struggle with this... so glad he is finally on board!2 -
orangesmartie wrote: »Part 2:
Sunday we all got up and drove 3.5 hours to Dollywood. That turned out to be a lot of fun! I was expecting it to be a bit corny, but it really was and wasn't at the same time. Dolly Parton is really an amazing woman. We rode a water ride, got soaked and froze a good part of the afternoon, but then did several roller coasters that dried us out. We needed more time there, so now Nicci, Cherie, her Mom and I are all planning a second road trip next year with maybe 2 days (including spa) at Dollywood, a trip to Memphis, and maybe a few other places along the way. Maybe we'll start in Nashville with the marathon again next year. We have to work it out. I have Oman to visit next year too! Plus I registered for the London Marathon so we'll see if I get in there.
After Dollywood we went to a real American dinner in a real 1950's style diner. The British loved it! I made them try corn bread (a hit), Texas Toast (not a hit), a root beer float (not a hit), cherry pie (some thought hit/others miss). Then a looooong drive home. I was exhausted. Nicci kept talking to me to keep me awake.
Monday we went to a plantation in the AM before I had to leave. Belle Mead. That was interesting, but it was pouring down rain and Nicci and Cherie were a bit disappointed that we didn't get to see more of the grounds of a real plantation (most of this was sold off) and learn more about the not so proud past of slavery. We had invited Tammy to join us but she wasn't able to so we never hooked up again. Maybe next time...!
I flew back Monday afternoon and returned to the 12 hour days in the CO on Tuesday. Today is Day 22 of the strike, Day 18 of non-repeating jeans. I am also going to consider it day 19 as I put on a pair of jeans that were so huge I took them off and put them in the to be donated pile and put on another pair.
Yesterday was very sad for me. Porch Kitten, whom I have been close to catching (would wait for me/follow me/come with in a foot of me) was killed by a car yesterday morning. I found him/her immediately after when I left for the CO. He/she was already dead, but it must have just happened, as I had just fed him/her. I am devastated. I picked him/her up but he/she was clearly dead and so I moved him/her to the side of the road. I wasn't sure what to do with him/her. I came home last night and he/she was still there so I dug a hole next to my porch and buried him/her. I am still really upset and sad about this.
And lastly, I am up an inordinate amount of weight. So, my plan was to go sober again after Nashville (not that I have been drinking much) and now I need to get rid of like 10!!! lbs. I can't understand how I could have gained so much weight working non-stop moving all day at the CO but there you go... I am up 10 lbs since this strike started.
So today is day 1 of #noalcohol (I don't like to say 'sober' it implies I am drunk and since I am very rarely drunk, I'll stick with no alcohol...). I'll see if I can beat Tami's streak after she quits sometime this month, I think (and she is doing amazingly well).
I have so many pictures but having issues with my phone synching to my computer, so need to sort that out then can post.
Take care, all. Back to wiring (and disconnecting) phone service.
Patricia
I'm so jealous that you went to Dollywood. I freaking love Dolly Parton - she's a good businesswoman, by all accounts a kind person, a talented songwriter, tough, clever, and I love that she does her own thing with her own style - and I've always wanted to go! I think our next US road trip is going to include a Dollywood trip too
Hi! Maybe come join the road trip next year with us... 2 days in Dollywood, a trip to Memphis, a marathon in there somewhere...
In never go to concerts, but she is coming pretty close to me in June. I may go see her. I always loved her but after seeing all she is doing for her community and the town she grew up in I am twice as infatuated with her.
Memphis will be about 6 hours from dollywood. Imagine a big confessions thread meet up at Dollywood, that would be awesome!
Dolly is an amazing person, brilliant business woman but everyone said what a nice person she is in real life.
There isn't a Dollywood marathon. But there is a smoky mountains marathon.... And there is the appalachian trail which I would love to hike some of
oooh a Smokey Mountains Marathon... I like that!1 -
I generally eat the same thing every single day to make it easier on myself because I stress out about what to eat and if it's balanced enough. Picking something new is like trying to add in an odd puzzle piece sometimes, ya know? I also log all my food for the day when I log my breakfast so that I'm not tempted to eat anything "bad" for me. Sometimes it works, but sometimes it doesn't.
Another poster mentioned not logging weight on days unless it's a new low. I do that too. And I won't weigh until I've had a BM and a pee first thing in the morning because that stuff weighs too
And if the scale is up and I've not been "bad" I blame in on water (or poo) weight.
How long have you kept this up?
I could keep it up fora couple of months. It would not be sustainable for me.
Be good to yourself and remember you want this to the last diet you ever need. It's a lifestyle change.1 -
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