Why is being a stripper bad?
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alleyneagle193 wrote: »I've been wondering why being a stripper is bad because I honestly want to be a stripper. They make really good money and can wear really cute clothes. I see nothing morally wrong with being a stripper unless you have kids... Then you should probably get a better job. What do you think?
Being a stripper isn't bad. It's no one's business what you do as a profession. If you are a dancer and love what you do, do it. Don't look for acceptance from others. If they aren't paying your bills, they have 0 opinion.
For those who think they can have an opinion of what you want to do for money, they're jealous.2 -
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Cindy4FunFit wrote: »I find that paying off student loans is crazy sexy, hot. I knew this girl: and she was a great dancer, and she was totally ripped, and she got a student loan to pay for college, and now, she has like: a great job, where she is respected and she is surrounded by friends and family that respect her and her life choices. Just an option. It's not for everyone.
PS- she is salary and bonus eligible so, she purchases all the "cute clothes" you can possibly imagine, girl! Stay in school.
You know what I find crazy sexy hot ?? Never having a student loan in the first place..
I never did and graduated with a BA that I paid on my own by waiting tables in steakhouses.1 -
This thread is proof to me that society is doomed ......3
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Cindy4FunFit wrote: »I find that paying off student loans is crazy sexy, hot. I knew this girl: and she was a great dancer, and she was totally ripped, and she got a student loan to pay for college, and now, she has like: a great job, where she is respected and she is surrounded by friends and family that respect her and her life choices. Just an option. It's not for everyone.
PS- she is salary and bonus eligible so, she purchases all the "cute clothes" you can possibly imagine, girl! Stay in school.
You know what I find crazy sexy hot ?? Never having a student loan in the first place..
I never did and graduated with a BA that I paid on my own by waiting tables in steakhouses.
You could have made more money at Hooters
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I had two stripper roommates in college, and they finished college in a lot less debt than I did. My vote is there's nothing wrong with it. Neither one of them did it after college, so they did ultimately decide that they didn't want to do it long term.0
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alleyneagle193 wrote: »I've been wondering why being a stripper is bad because I honestly want to be a stripper. They make really good money and can wear really cute clothes. I see nothing morally wrong with being a stripper unless you have kids... Then you should probably get a better job. What do you think?
Being a stripper isn't bad. It's no one's business what you do as a profession. If you are a dancer and love what you do, do it. Don't look for acceptance from others. If they aren't paying your bills, they have 0 opinion.
For those who think they can have an opinion of what you want to do for money, they're jealous.
Except for the whole ASKING for opinions thing.6 -
Well just to add another opinion 1. No this isn't a troll I seriously wanted to know what others thought about it but I'm busy. 2. I don't have time to read and participate. I do it when I can. But this has only been a bucket list idea for college I have no intentions of doing it long term but it's something I want to try and my family is okay with it. 3. I don't want to work at hooters because I don't want to work in the food industry.0
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alleyneagle193 wrote: »Well just to add another opinion 1. No this isn't a troll I seriously wanted to know what others thought about it but I'm busy. 2. I don't have time to read and participate. I do it when I can. But this has only been a bucket list idea for college I have no intentions of doing it long term but it's something I want to try and my family is okay with it. 3. I don't want to work at hooters because I don't want to work in the food industry.
Terrible place, it's pernicious and the gateway drug to worse places - you could end up working in ... a bank or something.
Wait, don't most burlesque and strip places serve drinks ... and food?3 -
alleyneagle193 wrote: »Well just to add another opinion 1. No this isn't a troll I seriously wanted to know what others thought about it but I'm busy. 2. I don't have time to read and participate. I do it when I can. But this has only been a bucket list idea for college I have no intentions of doing it long term but it's something I want to try and my family is okay with it. 3. I don't want to work at hooters because I don't want to work in the food industry.
Well, at least you have standards.8 -
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alleyneagle193 wrote: »Well just to add another opinion 1. No this isn't a troll I seriously wanted to know what others thought about it but I'm busy. 2. I don't have time to read and participate. I do it when I can. But this has only been a bucket list idea for college I have no intentions of doing it long term but it's something I want to try and my family is okay with it. 3. I don't want to work at hooters because I don't want to work in the food industry.
Well, at least you have standards.
Dressed, cute-clothed, non-stripping stripper, non-food serving standards!
I'd get the college loan application too.7 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »alleyneagle193 wrote: »Well just to add another opinion 1. No this isn't a troll I seriously wanted to know what others thought about it but I'm busy. 2. I don't have time to read and participate. I do it when I can. But this has only been a bucket list idea for college I have no intentions of doing it long term but it's something I want to try and my family is okay with it. 3. I don't want to work at hooters because I don't want to work in the food industry.
Terrible place, it's pernicious and the gateway drug to worse places - you could end up working in ... a bank or something.
Wait, don't most burlesque and strip places serve drinks ... and food?
Duh she'd be a stripper not a food server.
I think more though needs to go into this Career move. Seems thsts lots of what she won't do but not much of what she will. Maybe Broadway is a better plan....Oooh but you need years of training. Darn
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I'd recommend connecting with other strippers on LinkedIn and/or creating a profile on StripperJobs.com.0
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Cindy4FunFit wrote: »I find that paying off student loans is crazy sexy, hot. I knew this girl: and she was a great dancer, and she was totally ripped, and she got a student loan to pay for college, and now, she has like: a great job, where she is respected and she is surrounded by friends and family that respect her and her life choices. Just an option. It's not for everyone.
PS- she is salary and bonus eligible so, she purchases all the "cute clothes" you can possibly imagine, girl! Stay in school.
You know what I find crazy sexy hot ?? Never having a student loan in the first place..
I never did and graduated with a BA that I paid on my own by waiting tables in steakhouses.
This is impressive. I'd say classy.
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Cindy4FunFit wrote: »I find that paying off student loans is crazy sexy, hot. I knew this girl: and she was a great dancer, and she was totally ripped, and she got a student loan to pay for college, and now, she has like: a great job, where she is respected and she is surrounded by friends and family that respect her and her life choices. Just an option. It's not for everyone.
PS- she is salary and bonus eligible so, she purchases all the "cute clothes" you can possibly imagine, girl! Stay in school.
You know what I find crazy sexy hot ?? Never having a student loan in the first place..
I never did and graduated with a BA that I paid on my own by waiting tables in steakhouses.
Ewwwww, food service???
Gross.
Did you ever consider partially stripping instead?
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Maybe she wants to be a wallpaper stripper? An exotic interior designer?4
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salembambi wrote: »ok hold up did i just read that only trashy strippers actually strip?
LOL..How did Harris and Trudeau end up in this conversation..did I miss a page? Are they stripping now too, or just going to do the pole?0 -
finny11122 wrote: »
Call over to me at 9 tonight . Id like a private dance from you Ali ;-)
I'll be elbow deep in cake frosting by then so might be a little sticky!
Will there be a video stream of this?
Talk to @finny11122 apparently he's the one paying for my dance.
wait....is frosting classy? I need to know I'm a classy broad after all
Yes, frosting is classy! Especially chocolate!0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »alleyneagle193 wrote: »I've been wondering why being a stripper is bad because I honestly want to be a stripper. They make really good money and can wear really cute clothes. I see nothing morally wrong with being a stripper unless you have kids... Then you should probably get a better job. What do you think?
Your young enough to be my daughter so let me explain this too you as if I was talking to my daughter. Your young and beautiful but you do not yet have the life experience of someone who is older and who has been around the block a few times. I believe that you are much more valuable than to let yourself be drawn into that world. It is a very dark world filled with many unsavory characters who are looking to only use you and take advantage of you. My of these women, whom I have know personally, have drug habits and end up doing things much worse than stripping .. like prostitution and worse.
Even if it didn't lead to drugs and prostitution why would you want to lower yourself to be someone who is objectified and treated like a piece of meat. Many of these women have lasting emotional and psychological damage from their experiences in strip clubs and bars. They are left feeling empty and broken inside. Some have even been followed after work and raped or even killed. You have to understand the male mind to be able to comprehend what you are opening yourself up to. If a man is paying you to take off your clothes than you are of absolutely no value to him.. you are the lowest form of life around. That means for some that they develop a feeling of possession over you and can demonstrate stalkerish behavior. It can end up being a nightmare that you might not wake up from.
You also should consider your long term future. Stripping is not really a path way to success.. the money will not last forever and what are you going to do when your looks fade ? Everyone ages and nothing stays the same. I would encourage your to goto college and get an education that will help you earn a living for the rest of your life.
You should also think about your future husband or kids and how you might feel if they ever found out that their mom was a stripper. Everything goes on the internet today and once its out there it stays out there.. think about your family today.. your mother and your father.. Have you considered how much you might hurt them if they found out what you are doing ?
Paternalism at its best.
Didn't we do a mansplaining thread earlier?
"Think of the men!" sheez dude, really?
In a nut shell think of your clientele and how you will be viewed.. think of the danger. If that is wrong I never want to be right !!!
All well and good, but you aren't her father or even have an inkling of what she has or has not as a life experience. All that is just presumption paternalistic BS.
I mean you seem to know many women personally that are strippers, drug addicts and prostitutes. Or so you say. What kind of moral code are you navigating that places you in close personal association but at the same type hypercritical of the self-determination of what and how a young woman positions her body.
Are you truly criticising the profession from the close proximity of experience? That's like a john critiquing the "hooker lifestyle".
Just for the record I have a close personal friend who I grew up with who chose this lifestyle and I visited a few establishments when I was younger. So that is my frame of reference. To be honest I am really shocked that anyone would take issue with someone who was advising her to take the high road. Maybe you would want your daughter, sister or mother to work in one of these places ??? I think not.. but I could be wrong. At 18 years old how much life exp could anyone really have ?? Let alone the maturity to make such decisions. I wish her the best of luck.
Nicely said.2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »And not all strippers are great pole dancers - you can make just as much gliding around the stage looking hot as you can doing impressive moves on the pole. Plus, pole dancing can result in unsightly bruises and brush burns - not great for the appearance when you work mostly naked and the pole is shared so if you're a germ-phobe like me that's a deterrent.
This idea that you can't resist the lure of drugs is so ridiculous though. If you're prone to addiction - it's everywhere - nurses become addicts, high school kids become addicts, housewives. I never found adult work to tempt me to do substances. They aren't my thing.
The environment as a whole is going to cater to drug use far more than working in a doctors office of whatever. Yes, there are addicts everywhere...but one is more apt to use and abuse in an environment that is conducive to that...c'mon.
Agreed. Plus, the abject objectification from men can damage a person's soul. You're just a "thing" and not a person to them. That is hard on your soul. But the money is good and that makes it heard to quit... and this is where drug use tends to come into play.
Sure, there are a handful of success stories where a girl did it just for a few years to "pay for college" or whatever and moved on to better things. But the Overwhelming majority of strippers have emotional damage, either from childhood or from stripping for too long. That emotional damage leads them into or to stick with a job like stripping because they don't feel they deserve respect.
There is value... societal and personal value, in being respected. It's a slippery slope. Good Luck with your decision!3 -
Good lord... this thread is still going???0
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alleyneagle193 wrote: »Well just to add another opinion 1. No this isn't a troll I seriously wanted to know what others thought about it but I'm busy. 2. I don't have time to read and participate. I do it when I can. But this has only been a bucket list idea for college I have no intentions of doing it long term but it's something I want to try and my family is okay with it. 3. I don't want to work at hooters because I don't want to work in the food industry.
What's REALLY getting me in all this is the parents are ok with you stripping? Uh....why?1 -
There is nothing at all wrong with been a stripper0
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It's the remix to Ignition
Hot and fresh out the kitchen
Mama rollin that body, got every man in here wishin!
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If you want to do it then do it! I see no problem with it as long as you keep it professional just as you would any other job it comes with morals and guidelines you cannot cross. I know a lot of woman who have done it to pay for schooling for other even some single mothers they have now all moved on and have successful jobs.0
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readytochange42 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »And not all strippers are great pole dancers - you can make just as much gliding around the stage looking hot as you can doing impressive moves on the pole. Plus, pole dancing can result in unsightly bruises and brush burns - not great for the appearance when you work mostly naked and the pole is shared so if you're a germ-phobe like me that's a deterrent.
This idea that you can't resist the lure of drugs is so ridiculous though. If you're prone to addiction - it's everywhere - nurses become addicts, high school kids become addicts, housewives. I never found adult work to tempt me to do substances. They aren't my thing.
The environment as a whole is going to cater to drug use far more than working in a doctors office of whatever. Yes, there are addicts everywhere...but one is more apt to use and abuse in an environment that is conducive to that...c'mon.
Agreed. Plus, the abject objectification from men can damage a person's soul. You're just a "thing" and not a person to them. That is hard on your soul. But the money is good and that makes it heard to quit... and this is where drug use tends to come into play.
Sure, there are a handful of success stories where a girl did it just for a few years to "pay for college" or whatever and moved on to better things. But the Overwhelming majority of strippers have emotional damage, either from childhood or from stripping for too long. That emotional damage leads them into or to stick with a job like stripping because they don't feel they deserve respect.
There is value... societal and personal value, in being respected. It's a slippery slope. Good Luck with your decision!
A "handful of success stories"???
:huh:
I wonder if your sample size might be a little skewed and not representative.
But then that's hardly your fault. It isn't like they necessarily put that on their resume after graduating.
But it is your fault that you extrapolated your obviously limited personal experience.0 -
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What is going on here?
The usual MFP judging and condemnation.5
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