You NEED to stop calorie counting and restricting!
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It works for me.
It works for a lot of people! That's why I don't understand people who can lose weight by eating an abundance of "good calories" vs restricting and eating whatever you want.
I prefer the latter and don't understand the former!1 -
It works for me.
It works for a lot of people! That's why I don't understand people who can lose weight by eating an abundance of "good calories" vs restricting and eating whatever you want.
I prefer the latter and don't understand the former!
Those people are still in caloric deficit, that's why.9 -
Asher_Ethan wrote: »Because people want an easy way out and counting calories is too hard.
And paradoxically... it sounds too simple. There's no complicated woo surrounding it so it can't possibly work.
(12.5kg down and counting using said simple method
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MissusMoon wrote: »
It works for me.
It works for a lot of people! That's why I don't understand people who can lose weight by eating an abundance of "good calories" vs restricting and eating whatever you want.
I prefer the latter and don't understand the former!
Those people are still in caloric deficit, that's why.
See that would make sense if they actually were but like I've read articles of people who said they were eating like 3000+ cals a day of "good" calories and losing weight like are they just lying??
It's so hard to wrap my head around1 -
BruinsGal_91 wrote: »Dang! I thought this was going to be a Friday afternoon popcorn fest.
Me too... *kicks dirt*10 -
MissusMoon wrote: »
It works for me.
It works for a lot of people! That's why I don't understand people who can lose weight by eating an abundance of "good calories" vs restricting and eating whatever you want.
I prefer the latter and don't understand the former!
Those people are still in caloric deficit, that's why.
See that would make sense if they actually were but like I've read articles of people who said they were eating like 3000+ cals a day of "good" calories and losing weight like are they just lying??
It's so hard to wrap my head around
They can't defy the laws of science. They are overestimating their intake. It's not actually possible.9 -
MissusMoon wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »
It works for me.
It works for a lot of people! That's why I don't understand people who can lose weight by eating an abundance of "good calories" vs restricting and eating whatever you want.
I prefer the latter and don't understand the former!
Those people are still in caloric deficit, that's why.
See that would make sense if they actually were but like I've read articles of people who said they were eating like 3000+ cals a day of "good" calories and losing weight like are they just lying??
It's so hard to wrap my head around
They can't defy the laws of science. They are overestimating their intake. It's not actually possible.
Okay good. This is making me feel less crazy LOL3 -
MissusMoon wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »
It works for me.
It works for a lot of people! That's why I don't understand people who can lose weight by eating an abundance of "good calories" vs restricting and eating whatever you want.
I prefer the latter and don't understand the former!
Those people are still in caloric deficit, that's why.
See that would make sense if they actually were but like I've read articles of people who said they were eating like 3000+ cals a day of "good" calories and losing weight like are they just lying??
It's so hard to wrap my head around
They can't defy the laws of science. They are overestimating their intake. It's not actually possible.
Okay good. This is making me feel less crazy LOL
You're not crazy. It's the rest of the world that isn't sane 5 -
A) counting calories is free
counting calories is straight forward
C) counting calories is guaranteed success
But...
D) counting calories (restricting them) is hard
E) counting calories is unsexy as hell
If eating less and moving more were as easy as it sounds nobody would be fat, and therefore points D and E leave room for the billion dollar diet industry to rob everyone who wants it to be easy blind.
If you are successful permanently with a system that is free, who can keep them in business? The yoyo is their best friend.21 -
eveandqsmom wrote: »A) counting calories is free counting calories is straight forward
C) counting calories is guaranteed success
But...
D) counting calories (restricting them) is hard
E) counting calories is unsexy as hell
If eating less and moving more were as easy as it sounds nobody would be fat, and therefore points D and E leave room for the billion dollar diet industry to rob everyone who wants it to be easy blind.
If you are successful permanently with a system that is free, who can keep them in business? The yoyo is their best friend.
I don't restrict that much (-500 cals from my TDEE daily) so I don't feel personally I'm at risk of yoyoing so it's so crazy to me when these people try to claim restricting is bad for you! Unless they're referring to EXTREME restricting...4 -
The people who are trying to talk you into it have been brainwashed by the diet industry...don't be swayed.6
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eveandqsmom wrote: »The people who are trying to talk you into it have been brainwashed by the diet industry...don't be swayed.
Oh I won't be don't worry! It just saddens me that they actually believe they can eat at a caloric surplus and still lose weight which goes against EVERYTHING scientific of weight loss. *sigh*1 -
eveandqsmom wrote: »The people who are trying to talk you into it have been brainwashed by the diet industry...don't be swayed.
Oh I won't be don't worry! It just saddens me that they actually believe they can eat at a caloric surplus and still lose weight which goes against EVERYTHING scientific of weight loss. *sigh*
It is highly likely that they are overestimating the calories intake and underestimating their activity levels. I've seen posts on MFP were people get 10k plus steps and still think they are considered sedentary.3 -
shadow2soul wrote: »eveandqsmom wrote: »The people who are trying to talk you into it have been brainwashed by the diet industry...don't be swayed.
Oh I won't be don't worry! It just saddens me that they actually believe they can eat at a caloric surplus and still lose weight which goes against EVERYTHING scientific of weight loss. *sigh*
It is highly likely that they are overestimating the calories intake and underestimating their activity levels. I've seen posts on MFP were people get 10k plus steps and still think they are considered sedentary.
Crazy.1 -
I've seen this alot from the vegan crowd who lack the fundamental understanding of energy balance and basics of biology.
They say things like "don't calorie restrict!" but then lose weight by eating food. Whether intentional or not... they were... in a calorie deficit. LOL4 -
Here's a guy who ate a huge caloric surplus (high fat, little carb) for a month, and didn't gain weight. How can that be?
Summary: "Here is a difference between overeating and overeating.
When eating bad carbohydrates it’s easy to gain weight quickly. You’ll get plenty of the fat-storing hormone insulin in your blood.
It’s generally hard to gain weight on an LCHF diet. It’s even difficult to eat too much food, as you then usually have to eat more than you want. Even if you force down large amounts of LCHF-food, against your will, the result is usually as it was for Feltham. It’s a constant struggle and weight gain will likely be modest.
Overweight people eating as much as they want on an LCHF diet will typically lose weight."
http://thehealthhelp.co/what-happens-if-you-eat-5800-calories-daily-on-an-lchf-diet/1 -
rainbowbow wrote: »I've seen this alot from the vegan crowd who lack the fundamental understanding of energy balance and basics of biology.
They say things like "don't calorie restrict!" but then lose weight by eating food. Whether intentional or not... they were... in a calorie deficit. LOL
Right?? I've recently gone vegan and all the "informative" videos I've watched have been like "don't restrict!" Although I find that I still need to calorie restrict on a vegan diet depending on what I'm eating4 -
gonetothedogs19 wrote: »Here's a guy who ate a huge caloric surplus (high fat, little carb) for a month, and didn't gain weight. How can that be?
Summary: "Here is a difference between overeating and overeating.
When eating bad carbohydrates it’s easy to gain weight quickly. You’ll get plenty of the fat-storing hormone insulin in your blood.
It’s generally hard to gain weight on an LCHF diet. It’s even difficult to eat too much food, as you then usually have to eat more than you want. Even if you force down large amounts of LCHF-food, against your will, the result is usually as it was for Feltham. It’s a constant struggle and weight gain will likely be modest.
Overweight people eating as much as they want on an LCHF diet will typically lose weight."
http://thehealthhelp.co/what-happens-if-you-eat-5800-calories-daily-on-an-lchf-diet/
That seems to crazy to me??1 -
rainbowbow wrote: »I've seen this alot from the vegan crowd who lack the fundamental understanding of energy balance and basics of biology.
They say things like "don't calorie restrict!" but then lose weight by eating food. Whether intentional or not... they were... in a calorie deficit. LOL
Right?? I've recently gone vegan and all the "informative" videos I've watched have been like "don't restrict!" Although I find that I still need to calorie restrict on a vegan diet depending on what I'm eating
absolutely. It's one of my biggest pet peeves really.
I personally am a lifelong vegetarian (25 years, my entire life) (used to be lacto-ovo but i'm lactose intolerant now and only have eggs on a VERY small occasions)..... i have been at my highest weight and my lowest weight eating the same things.
Unfortunately there is SOOO much misinformation by certain vegans in the community and it drives me insane. Some of the most frustrating:
"The fat you eat is the fat you wear"
Body fat and dietary fat are not the same thing. While fat has nearly double the calories of carbohydrates and protein, the only way eating more fat will cause weight gain is by you eating too many overall calories.
"There's no such thing as protein deficiency. it's not a thing. You dont need that much protein"
We know this is not true especially for vegans whose protein sources are lower in overall amino acids. If anything, they need MORE protein in their diet to ensure they are meeting all of their amino profile needs.
"You can eat as much as you want and not gain weight!"
We know this is not true and that ultimately it comes down to caloric intake. Period.
"You are gaining weight on a vegan diet because of metabolic damage"
This is absolute BS and an excuse they use because they have no clue why someone eating 2,500 calories a day is gaining weight. LOL
"As long as you eat enough calories you will reach all your nutrient needs"
this is also BS just like with any diet you need to plan you meals accordingly. Eating a balanced diet is necessary especially for vegans where certain things like amino acids, iron sources, and vitamin d/calcium are hard to obtain without planning.
Don't get me started on the people like durianrider and freelee who say all kinds of ridiculous nonsense. They are like "smash in the calories! no one gets fat off fruit!" but then they are biking 120k a day on their bikes and burning thousands and thousands of calories each and every day.
If you want someone who can give you some information based on actual science and actual facts NOT nonsense woo woo i suggest the following:
Unnatural Vegan8 -
gonetothedogs19 wrote: »Here's a guy who ate a huge caloric surplus (high fat, little carb) for a month, and didn't gain weight. How can that be?
Summary: "Here is a difference between overeating and overeating.
When eating bad carbohydrates it’s easy to gain weight quickly. You’ll get plenty of the fat-storing hormone insulin in your blood.
It’s generally hard to gain weight on an LCHF diet. It’s even difficult to eat too much food, as you then usually have to eat more than you want. Even if you force down large amounts of LCHF-food, against your will, the result is usually as it was for Feltham. It’s a constant struggle and weight gain will likely be modest.
Overweight people eating as much as they want on an LCHF diet will typically lose weight."
http://thehealthhelp.co/what-happens-if-you-eat-5800-calories-daily-on-an-lchf-diet/
The claims in this link are just that: claims. Unless this person is working out enough to maintain they are not consuming that much without gaining weight. No one can defy science.
I was eating LCHF and it got me to Obese II. Meats, cheeses, nuts, avocados. Very little refined sugar, and flour and rice products were an extreme rarity.
The "science" this dude spouts is woo. Nutritionally speaking a calorie is not a calorie. But with weight, your body processes a calorie from any source the same way. It is an EXCESS of anything that causes fat storage. There are a lot of articles and such. There is no solid science unless you are talking about a few very specific health issues.
TL;DR version: Subject of the article is not being honest.8
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