I have an (almost) obese brother & need advice!

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  • Savyna
    Savyna Posts: 789 Member
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    Thank you for caring about your brother enough to want to do something, I think that's great. Since he is very young still, it would probably help him with his cravings of things he likes to eat if you preportion crackers, candies or whatever it is he likes to snack on to ensure he's getting a little bit but not overdoing it. If you two have a close relationship maybe you two can sign up for a sport together, he can make new friends and do a bit of running around playing. Or if he's not into sports but likes the idea of exploring you can go to the park and pretend youre explorers looking for treasure. (you could even prehide treasure and make a map and leave clues to where they're buried).

    Pokemon Go just came out a few days ago, you have to walk around to catch pokemon. If he likes Pokemon that could be an option he'd like (walking around to catch things...I know a family who walked around 6 hours yesterday to catch all kinds of stuff. They did it together and that's what made it fun).

    Good luck to you both!
  • Owlie45
    Owlie45 Posts: 810 Member
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    My friend was recently told her son needed to lose some weight. He didn't recommend cutting calories. He suggested more activies.
    Go on bike rides. Hike through a large park, just be careful, some of our parks have cliffs but no railings.
  • htimpaired
    htimpaired Posts: 1,404 Member
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    st476 wrote: »
    nowine4me wrote: »
    I have no advice, but I think you're an awesome sister. I wish someone had cared enough to help me learn about proper nutrition when I was a kid. It could saved me countless years of yo-yo dieting.
    Thank you! That's why I'm trying to get him to eat healthier things too. Everyone is saying to feed him exactly what he was eating before, but smaller portions. While I agree with that to a certain extent, I also think that considering he likes grilled chicken and carrots and broccoli and egg whites, I would much rather he learn to eat those things instead, you know? I want there to be a combination of food that's "good for you" and food that's not so good for you. Obviously if he was given the choice he would choose to eat McDonald's instead of grilled chicken and vegetables, just like most people would. He's not learning good nutrition from that, although portion sizes are also important to learn. I'm trying to teach him both.

    This is not an attack, so please don't take it like one...but looking at your food diary, you might want to take a look at your own nutrition before giving out advice to others. It looks like you're eating two meals a day and a bunch of snacks, skipping dinner often, and not always even eating 1200. I don't know how tall you are, but that's not enough for a 19 year old girl, who yourself is still not done maturing physically. I'm sorry your mother put this burden on you, but you shouldn't have to be the parent here. Kuddos for giving it a try, I know it's tough to watch the ones you love develop unhealthy habits.
  • dmt4641
    dmt4641 Posts: 409 Member
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    I really commend you for helping your brother, but as others have said it is not going to do much if your parents won't parent him. You will not always be there to prepare his food and stay on your parents' case. The fact that they allow him to just sit on his X box all day is really sad. Nothing is going to change until the X box is severely limited. Video games can be truly addictive and he doesn't have much of a life right now if all he is doing is playing games and eating. Your mother needs to turn it off, unplug it, regardless of how much he whines. He will get over it eventually and find other things to do. Hopefully some of his new activities will be active. Even if they are not active, at least he will have more of a life and that may get him motivated to change other things.

    As others have mentioned, you many need to teach him how to prepare a few simple foods if your mother won't cook anything but fried chicken. Even making himself a turkey sandwich with some fruit and carrot sticks is better than fried chicken, it doesn't have to be baked salmon with asparagus. My 8 year old can make herself lunch and already knows what a healthy plate looks like (I tell her she needs some form of protein and fruit and/or veggies). You never know, he may enjoy cooking and it could become a hobby that gets him off the X box. I always have hard boiled eggs, turkey deli meat, string cheese, cut up fruit and veggies, etc. in the fridge and she just grabs what she wants with some crackers or something. It sounds like your parents are absent (sorry) so he will have to do some of this himself. If he gets off the X box, being more active should happen naturally if he finds something he enjoys doing.
  • st476
    st476 Posts: 357 Member
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    htimpaired wrote: »
    st476 wrote: »
    nowine4me wrote: »
    I have no advice, but I think you're an awesome sister. I wish someone had cared enough to help me learn about proper nutrition when I was a kid. It could saved me countless years of yo-yo dieting.
    Thank you! That's why I'm trying to get him to eat healthier things too. Everyone is saying to feed him exactly what he was eating before, but smaller portions. While I agree with that to a certain extent, I also think that considering he likes grilled chicken and carrots and broccoli and egg whites, I would much rather he learn to eat those things instead, you know? I want there to be a combination of food that's "good for you" and food that's not so good for you. Obviously if he was given the choice he would choose to eat McDonald's instead of grilled chicken and vegetables, just like most people would. He's not learning good nutrition from that, although portion sizes are also important to learn. I'm trying to teach him both.

    This is not an attack, so please don't take it like one...but looking at your food diary, you might want to take a look at your own nutrition before giving out advice to others. It looks like you're eating two meals a day and a bunch of snacks, skipping dinner often, and not always even eating 1200. I don't know how tall you are, but that's not enough for a 19 year old girl, who yourself is still not done maturing physically. I'm sorry your mother put this burden on you, but you shouldn't have to be the parent here. Kuddos for giving it a try, I know it's tough to watch the ones you love develop unhealthy habits.
    I don't eat 1200 sometimes because I eat more on other days and it balances out. And I'm pretty sure it's irrelevant when I eat. If I want to eat most of my calories in snacks, I can. That's what works for me and helps me not give up. And either way, I wasn't asking for help with myself, thanks.
  • st476
    st476 Posts: 357 Member
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    Thanks to everyone for the advice! :smile:
  • MissTattoo
    MissTattoo Posts: 1,203 Member
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    My thing is, even if you help him this summer, what's going to happen after that? You aren't footing the grocery bill in the house. Your parents are. So if he has a summer of eating right and what not with you, what happens in September when your parents still don't care and he's back to eating corndogs/candy for breakfast and playing Xbox for 12 hours? I'm looking at the long term picture here.

    If I had a little brother who was obsessed with Xbox and gaining wait from being immobile, you bet your butt I would take the hard drive out of the Xbox and not give it back until we spent some serious time outside playing. It's easy to take out if you want to know how. :-)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,898 Member
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    Savyna wrote: »
    Thank you for caring about your brother enough to want to do something, I think that's great. Since he is very young still, it would probably help him with his cravings of things he likes to eat if you preportion crackers, candies or whatever it is he likes to snack on to ensure he's getting a little bit but not overdoing it. If you two have a close relationship maybe you two can sign up for a sport together, he can make new friends and do a bit of running around playing. Or if he's not into sports but likes the idea of exploring you can go to the park and pretend youre explorers looking for treasure. (you could even prehide treasure and make a map and leave clues to where they're buried).

    Pokemon Go just came out a few days ago, you have to walk around to catch pokemon. If he likes Pokemon that could be an option he'd like (walking around to catch things...I know a family who walked around 6 hours yesterday to catch all kinds of stuff. They did it together and that's what made it fun).

    Good luck to you both!

    You're the second person to mention Pokemon Go today. This looks like so much fun!
  • st476
    st476 Posts: 357 Member
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    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Savyna wrote: »
    Thank you for caring about your brother enough to want to do something, I think that's great. Since he is very young still, it would probably help him with his cravings of things he likes to eat if you preportion crackers, candies or whatever it is he likes to snack on to ensure he's getting a little bit but not overdoing it. If you two have a close relationship maybe you two can sign up for a sport together, he can make new friends and do a bit of running around playing. Or if he's not into sports but likes the idea of exploring you can go to the park and pretend youre explorers looking for treasure. (you could even prehide treasure and make a map and leave clues to where they're buried).

    Pokemon Go just came out a few days ago, you have to walk around to catch pokemon. If he likes Pokemon that could be an option he'd like (walking around to catch things...I know a family who walked around 6 hours yesterday to catch all kinds of stuff. They did it together and that's what made it fun).

    Good luck to you both!

    You're the second person to mention Pokemon Go today. This looks like so much fun!
    I might try Pokemon Go myself lol
  • Savyna
    Savyna Posts: 789 Member
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    st476 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Savyna wrote: »
    Thank you for caring about your brother enough to want to do something, I think that's great. Since he is very young still, it would probably help him with his cravings of things he likes to eat if you preportion crackers, candies or whatever it is he likes to snack on to ensure he's getting a little bit but not overdoing it. If you two have a close relationship maybe you two can sign up for a sport together, he can make new friends and do a bit of running around playing. Or if he's not into sports but likes the idea of exploring you can go to the park and pretend youre explorers looking for treasure. (you could even prehide treasure and make a map and leave clues to where they're buried).

    Pokemon Go just came out a few days ago, you have to walk around to catch pokemon. If he likes Pokemon that could be an option he'd like (walking around to catch things...I know a family who walked around 6 hours yesterday to catch all kinds of stuff. They did it together and that's what made it fun).

    Good luck to you both!

    You're the second person to mention Pokemon Go today. This looks like so much fun!
    I might try Pokemon Go myself lol
    I would loveeee to try it, but my iphone is in the obsolete category and so is my android phone. :(
  • HeatherLeAnn622
    HeatherLeAnn622 Posts: 45 Member
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    That's great you're trying to help your brother. It's clear you really care about him, and he's lucky to have you in his life :)
    The best thing for him is to see a doctor, to ensure his nutritional needs are being met as a growing child. However, I know that realistically, that probably won't happen, as it sounds like your parents are not willing to take responsibility for this. :(
    It would benefit him long term to have the entire family sit down and talk about this as a whole. Because when you leave, he will go back to his old ways, because your parents aren't on board. I hope that doesn't happen, but if your parents don't ultimately step up and help out with this, he will revert back. He's a kid, you can't blame him for that. Do your best to keep in touch with him when you leave and encourage lots of activity. (get off the Xbox)
    I truly wish you and him the best.
  • solieco1
    solieco1 Posts: 1,559 Member
    edited July 2016
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    He's about to hit puberty and chances are he is going to shoot up in height. I have twin 14 yo sons and I've seen it happen. Mine also looked a bit chubby and now are long and lean and eat twice as much. I wouldn't worry too much right now. I think you will be most effective just getting him to enjoy a healthy lifestyle. Plan things to do that are fun and active. Lay off him about the numbers so that it doesn't become a big psychological hurdle. Be his sister and support him in positive ways. I appreciate what you are trying to do but perhaps a different approach would work better :) xoxo
  • MoveitlikeManda
    MoveitlikeManda Posts: 846 Member
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    Iv not read all the replies but just wanted to comment before i log off for the night.

    instead of trying to change his deit and eating habbits so drastically take him to the park, get him out having fun, if he is having fun he will want to be more active which is the problem here.

    my 2 eldest boys are 7 & 8 years old and they can eat for england yet are both a nice healthy weight (8year old has nothing to him ) because they are on the go constantly,
    get your MUM to limit his xbox time (mine are not allowed on from 3pm sunday till they get home from school on friday, are only allowed on over the saturday and sunday and only in short periods between playing in the garden and doing homework .

    i really feel its his activity levels that need lookng at more
  • Cindude
    Cindude Posts: 5 Member
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    I really feel for you because I see the position you are in, and it's not fair but it's the burden you bear by being the smart one in the family. All you can do is your best and set a good example. You can plan all the diet and exercise programs in the world and your brother and family won't stick to them. You are doing everything you can. I'm not going to give you suggestions as to what to do because you can think of things on your own but you do have to be aware of the impossible position you are in and not blame yourself if your family continues the same self-destructive behavior. I assume you are in college, and worried about what will happen at home in the fall. I'm reading between a lot of lines and if I read them correctly you will get frustrated with your family but you need to focus on yourself first.

  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,214 Member
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    When my daughter was around 11, we went lowish carb together. She really got into it, and was even stricter with herself than I was. It was initially successful. We didn't do weigh-ins, I tried to keep it low-key, but she visibly slimmed. I went through some stressful periods at work and stopped focussing on diet. We both regained weight and then some. My takeaway from all of it was that she was worse off by my starting something that I couldn't continue indefinitely. In later years I focussed more on physical activity. I told her that she needs one sport or activity that she has to participate in regularly. Initially it was swimming, but later she took tennis lessons. An individual sport like tennis or golf is easier to face than a team sport for an overweight child. She went crazy for Dance Dance Revolution for a while but kept overdoing it and hurt her ankles. It can be as addictive as the other video games. My daughter remains overweight to this day, although not excessively so. If I had to do it all over again I would work a lot harder at leading her into a fun, activity filled life.
  • suzyjane1972
    suzyjane1972 Posts: 612 Member
    edited July 2016
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    I haven't read all the posts but as a growing child aim for him to eat at maintainance and wait for the next growth spurt to even out his weight.
  • JeromeBarry1
    JeromeBarry1 Posts: 10,182 Member
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    Teach him to cook.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,898 Member
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    Savyna wrote: »
    st476 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Savyna wrote: »
    Thank you for caring about your brother enough to want to do something, I think that's great. Since he is very young still, it would probably help him with his cravings of things he likes to eat if you preportion crackers, candies or whatever it is he likes to snack on to ensure he's getting a little bit but not overdoing it. If you two have a close relationship maybe you two can sign up for a sport together, he can make new friends and do a bit of running around playing. Or if he's not into sports but likes the idea of exploring you can go to the park and pretend youre explorers looking for treasure. (you could even prehide treasure and make a map and leave clues to where they're buried).

    Pokemon Go just came out a few days ago, you have to walk around to catch pokemon. If he likes Pokemon that could be an option he'd like (walking around to catch things...I know a family who walked around 6 hours yesterday to catch all kinds of stuff. They did it together and that's what made it fun).

    Good luck to you both!

    You're the second person to mention Pokemon Go today. This looks like so much fun!
    I might try Pokemon Go myself lol
    I would loveeee to try it, but my iphone is in the obsolete category and so is my android phone. :(

    I'm thinking of upgrading :D
  • KetoneKaren
    KetoneKaren Posts: 6,411 Member
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    I know you are trying to help your brother. Someone else may have mentioned it here, but it is extremely common for boys to be chubby just before they go through puberty (and grow tall before your very eyes). I am not saying his eating and exercise habits are great, but puberty may drastically change things...