If I cut out bread will that help loosing weight?
molllyann
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If I try cutting out bread will that help me loose weight and not be bloated anymore? I'm having a hard time loosing weight. I'm trying to incorporate more meat and chicken. I'm trying to loose a pound a week. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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If you eat fewer calories and have an easier time sticking to an appropriate calorie goal it will help with weight loss.
It could help with bloating, some report that.
I don't personally eat much bread since I find it not that satisfying (with some exceptions) for the calories, but that's just personal preference -- I didn't eat much bread before losing weight either.
I'd say, sure, try it, and see how you feel. Also, make sure you are logging and have an appropriate calorie goal. How long have you been trying and how much do you want to lose?6 -
The things that you consume will have an affect on how you feel throughout your lifestyle but ultimately, to loose weight - all that is truly needed is a calorie deficit.
That's not to say that you shouldn't assess the food and drinks that work for you, there are a lot of factors to take into account, not least the things you enjoy and the way foods make you feel.
Ultimately, if a lifestyle doesn't feel maintainable - it isn't a realistic lifestyle change that's gonna enrich your life for the long haul!
All the best!
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I limit breads just to keep my calories under control most days. Cutting it out forever would be sad. As long as you have a caloric deficit, you'll lose weight!8
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If I try cutting out bread will that help me loose weight and not be bloated anymore? I'm having a hard time loosing weight. I'm trying to incorporate more meat and chicken. I'm trying to loose a pound a week. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Eating more meat and less starchy (or sweet) carbs has helped me stay within my calorie goal. But it's all relative, I'm still at 50% carbs and 20% protein.
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Replacing foods that have high calorie to satiation ratios with foods that have lower calorie to satiation ratios is a good way to lose weight yes.
Heavily refined carbohydrates tend to have the highest calorie to satiation ratios so cutting out things like white bread in favor of more complex carbs or fiborous carbs like lentils or vegetables can mean the difference between feeling like you are starving at 1500 calories and feeling like you are stuffed at 1500 calories.
That said I find trying to cut things out completely is uneccesary, moderation is easier to do and therefore more sustainable. I'd recommend moderation on the refined carbs and some substitutions for more fiber or complex carbs. Don't try to go to a diet of just broccoli and chickenbreast, no reason to go that extreme.13 -
Bread by itself doesn't cause weight gain. Only eating more calories than you burn will cause it. You can over eat fruit, or meat, or anything else. If you feel the bread is the cause of your bloating, try not eating it for a few days and see if that actually is the cause. I have no idea what else you eat or drink that might cause that. Carbs/bread aren't evil, and women especially can suffer from lack of carbs (I know I do if I cut too hard). What kind of bread are you eating? White? Whole wheat? Sprouted grain? Flax? Rye? There's a lot of different kinds. I personally eat only sprouted grain bread (thinly sliced) because it provides a good amount of fiber and is very filling.5
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I found that limiting the amount of bread has helped me meet my calorie goals. Bread can have tons of calories, it is easy to eat a LOT of, and does not necessarily keep you feeling satisfied very long. However, bread does not have any special properties that will mysteriously make you gain or lose weight.7
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RoseTheWarrior wrote: »Bread by itself doesn't cause weight gain. Only eating more calories than you burn will cause it. You can over eat fruit, or meat, or anything else. If you feel the bread is the cause of your bloating, try not eating it for a few days and see if that actually is the cause. I have no idea what else you eat or drink that might cause that. Carbs/bread aren't evil, and women especially can suffer from lack of carbs (I know I do if I cut too hard). What kind of bread are you eating? White? Whole wheat? Sprouted grain? Flax? Rye? There's a lot of different kinds. I personally eat only sprouted grain bread (thinly sliced) because it provides a good amount of fiber and is very filling.
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I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.7
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Not for me. I went low carb (while still counting calories, 20 Net grams of carbs a day) and I lost weight just as fast as when I used the MFP's reccomended amount of carbs/protein/fats.
Just keep your calories, drink a LOT of water, avoid high-sodium foods and eat the way you want to eat for the rest of your life (within a calorie deficient) and you will eventually see those results!5 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Cutting carbs does not necessarily mean someone will lose weight. Yes, one will lose water weight in the beginning, but if you don't eat less than you burn you will not lose weight. Basic physiology that works for everyone.
I've tried high carb. low carb and moderate carb with the exact same calorie deficit for all. Apart from water loss in the beginning of low carb, I still lost 1lb per week.
A calorie is a unit of energy, not a food type. A calorie IS a calorie.13 -
A calorie is simply a measurement of a chemical reaction within your body - fats, carbs and proteins all have a calorific value to them as a base minimum and then are generally surrounded by other content factors.ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Chicken might be majorly protein, however the substance coating the chicken will likely be carbohydrate based (BBQ glaze, etc - chicken skin mainly consists of fats).
A calorie can never be anything other than a calorie because it isn't a nutrient, it's a way to measure the body's ability to displace energy.
Excess energy that isn't used as ATP and released is stored by the body as added bodyfat.
No mater how you choose to attain a calorie deficit, it will still be a calorie deficit regardless consistency of protein, fats or carbs.
Body composition is an entirely different beast but calories are relatively simple when you see them as what they are.
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ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Because no one has ever lost weight eating carbohydrates? Look, I'm happy that that worked for you but telling someone to not substitute carbs for other carbs because it won't work is only something you can say about yourself, you can't just apply that to other people. Perhaps doing that didn't work for you, that doesn't mean that it doesn't work.11 -
AdamAthletic wrote: »
A calorie is simply a measurement of a chemical reaction within your body - fats, carbs and proteins all have a calorific value to them as a base minimum and then are generally surrounded by other content factors.ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Chicken might be majorly protein, however the substance coating the chicken will likely be carbohydrate based (BBQ glaze, etc - chicken skin mainly consists of fats).
A calorie can never be anything other than a calorie because it isn't a nutrient, it's a way to measure the body's ability to displace energy.
Excess energy that isn't used as ATP and released is stored by the body as added bodyfat.
No mater how you choose to attain a calorie deficit, it will still be a calorie deficit regardless consistency of protein, fats or carbs.
Body composition is an entirely different beast but calories are relatively simple when you see them as what they are.
I think a calorie is a calorie but I also think it is fair to say that different people have different satiation dependent on what they eat and for some losing weight will become much easier if they substitute carbs for proteins and fats because they will feel much greater satiation on such a diet relative to their previous diet.
That doesn't mean that 100 calories of bread isn't the same amount of energy as 100 calories of chicken, just that for some people 100 calories of chicken will be much more satisfying and will allow for a caloric deficit that is comfortable rather than hunger-inducing.
I think really the answer is to experiment within your calorie limit that you have determined from your TDEE and the amount you want to lose and find out what types of foods satisfy you within that limit while still giving you your basic nutritional needs. Sometimes substituting more protein for refined carbs works well for that.2 -
I'm losing weight and I eat bread - killer Dave 60 cal bread. Bloating is an issue for some folks with bread.0
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Here is my experience which is not necessarily something that will work or apply to you OP but still I thought I would share.
Fat. Good for satisfaction in the form of feeling like I have a varied diet. Getting some pizza or some icecream or some cheese in moderation helps keep me from feeling like I'm overly restricted in what I can eat.
Protein. Good for overall satiation. More protein in my diet, the more full I feel from an equivalent amount of calories. Tried going like 50% calorie protein one time and I couldn't do it because I just felt overly stuffed for my calorie goal so I had to back off.
Carbs. Good for just general energy and maintaining your blood sugar. If you cut out too many carbs in my experience you will occassionally get dizzy or have more highs and lows in your day and if you attempt exercise you won't be able to sustain for very long before feeling weakened or exhausted.
Personally I eat enough carbs to exercise at the level I want to exercise at, I eat enough fat that I feel good about the types of foods I get to eat and I eat enough protein to feel full and not overly hungry.
I think people that try to cut out or extremely limit one type of macro are doing themselves an unnecessary disservice. Just find out what you need to get by in terms of carbs and fats and fill up on protein. If you have more calories to spare you can get more carbs and fats in there for just the enjoyment of it.6 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Because no one has ever lost weight eating carbohydrates? Look, I'm happy that that worked for you but telling someone to not substitute carbs for other carbs because it won't work is only something you can say about yourself, you can't just apply that to other people. Perhaps doing that didn't work for you, that doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
Don't even try that junk with me. I did NOT say anything along the lines of what you are trying to put in my mouth. Carbs ARE stored as fat when we eat more than we burn. FACT. Whether you like it or not.0 -
I'm losing weight and I eat bread - killer Dave 60 cal bread. Bloating is an issue for some folks with bread.
Ive heard this before. Out of curiosity why do people care about bloating? Its not fat, its just water retention...has no bearing on your health or fitness. So why do people care? They really want a particular number on their scale or its an aesthetic thing?1 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »I'm losing weight and I eat bread - killer Dave 60 cal bread. Bloating is an issue for some folks with bread.
Ive heard this before. Out of curiosity why do people care about bloating? Its not fat, its just water retention...has no bearing on your health or fitness. So why do people care? They really want a particular number on their scale or its an aesthetic thing?
its uncomfortable5 -
Calorie deficit makes you lose weight.
You might feel fuller and eat less if you are eating more protein, fats and fiber. Cutting down bread consumption could be helpful to you meeting your goals. Give it a try for a couple of weeks and see if you like it.
It will still be the calorie deficit that causes you to lose weight though.
If you aren't losing check your logging accuracy. Log everything. Use a food scale. Check that the database entries you use are correct.0 -
AdamAthletic wrote: »
A calorie is simply a measurement of a chemical reaction within your body - fats, carbs and proteins all have a calorific value to them as a base minimum and then are generally surrounded by other content factors.ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Chicken might be majorly protein, however the substance coating the chicken will likely be carbohydrate based (BBQ glaze, etc - chicken skin mainly consists of fats).
A calorie can never be anything other than a calorie because it isn't a nutrient, it's a way to measure the body's ability to displace energy.
Excess energy that isn't used as ATP and released is stored by the body as added bodyfat.
No mater how you choose to attain a calorie deficit, it will still be a calorie deficit regardless consistency of protein, fats or carbs.
Body composition is an entirely different beast but calories are relatively simple when you see them as what they are.
This is not in any way related to what I said at all. I said I did NOT change my calories. I continued with the same intake that I had previously when I was NOT losing weight. The only thing I changed was carbs, and obviously that made a difference in my protein and fat intake. But calories did not change.0 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »AdamAthletic wrote: »
A calorie is simply a measurement of a chemical reaction within your body - fats, carbs and proteins all have a calorific value to them as a base minimum and then are generally surrounded by other content factors.ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Chicken might be majorly protein, however the substance coating the chicken will likely be carbohydrate based (BBQ glaze, etc - chicken skin mainly consists of fats).
A calorie can never be anything other than a calorie because it isn't a nutrient, it's a way to measure the body's ability to displace energy.
Excess energy that isn't used as ATP and released is stored by the body as added bodyfat.
No mater how you choose to attain a calorie deficit, it will still be a calorie deficit regardless consistency of protein, fats or carbs.
Body composition is an entirely different beast but calories are relatively simple when you see them as what they are.
I think a calorie is a calorie but I also think it is fair to say that different people have different satiation dependent on what they eat and for some losing weight will become much easier if they substitute carbs for proteins and fats because they will feel much greater satiation on such a diet relative to their previous diet.
That doesn't mean that 100 calories of bread isn't the same amount of energy as 100 calories of chicken, just that for some people 100 calories of chicken will be much more satisfying and will allow for a caloric deficit that is comfortable rather than hunger-inducing.
I think really the answer is to experiment within your calorie limit that you have determined from your TDEE and the amount you want to lose and find out what types of foods satisfy you within that limit while still giving you your basic nutritional needs. Sometimes substituting more protein for refined carbs works well for that.
I certainly agree that satiety is a big factor, I've not for a second disputed that.
Certainly fat is much better for satiety than carbohydrate, it's the nature of the nutrient - your body will pick the carbohydrate to use as its first energy source and the fat as the last.
There are so many factors that come into play here but a calorie will always be a calorie and should somebody eat 100 calories or bread or 100 calories of chicken - the body will store no more or less bodyfat with one than the other.
All nutrients are as important as the last for differing reasons.
My explanation simply covers the indisputable fact that a calorie IS just a calorie.0 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Because no one has ever lost weight eating carbohydrates? Look, I'm happy that that worked for you but telling someone to not substitute carbs for other carbs because it won't work is only something you can say about yourself, you can't just apply that to other people. Perhaps doing that didn't work for you, that doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
Don't even try that junk with me. I did NOT say anything along the lines of what you are trying to put in my mouth. Carbs ARE stored as fat when we eat more than we burn. FACT. Whether you like it or not.
Anything you consume causes a weight gain if eaten in surplus of your caloric expenditure.11 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »I'm losing weight and I eat bread - killer Dave 60 cal bread. Bloating is an issue for some folks with bread.
Ive heard this before. Out of curiosity why do people care about bloating? Its not fat, its just water retention...has no bearing on your health or fitness. So why do people care? They really want a particular number on their scale or its an aesthetic thing?
its uncomfortable
Ah, fair enough. Guess i've never experienced that myself. I mean I've felt overly full if I eat a lot of salt and retain a lot of water as a result...not sure if that is the same feeling or not.0 -
hi, I switched from bread to plain quacker rice cakes& find them easier to digest and no bloating.I enjoy them.Just an option0
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ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »AdamAthletic wrote: »
A calorie is simply a measurement of a chemical reaction within your body - fats, carbs and proteins all have a calorific value to them as a base minimum and then are generally surrounded by other content factors.ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Chicken might be majorly protein, however the substance coating the chicken will likely be carbohydrate based (BBQ glaze, etc - chicken skin mainly consists of fats).
A calorie can never be anything other than a calorie because it isn't a nutrient, it's a way to measure the body's ability to displace energy.
Excess energy that isn't used as ATP and released is stored by the body as added bodyfat.
No mater how you choose to attain a calorie deficit, it will still be a calorie deficit regardless consistency of protein, fats or carbs.
Body composition is an entirely different beast but calories are relatively simple when you see them as what they are.
This is not in any way related to what I said at all. I said I did NOT change my calories. I continued with the same intake that I had previously when I was NOT losing weight. The only thing I changed was carbs, and obviously that made a difference in my protein and fat intake. But calories did not change.
Out of curiosity were you calorie counting when you were not losing weight and for how long did you maintain that diet while calorie counting and not losing weight before you made the change?3 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Because no one has ever lost weight eating carbohydrates? Look, I'm happy that that worked for you but telling someone to not substitute carbs for other carbs because it won't work is only something you can say about yourself, you can't just apply that to other people. Perhaps doing that didn't work for you, that doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
Don't even try that junk with me. I did NOT say anything along the lines of what you are trying to put in my mouth. Carbs ARE stored as fat when we eat more than we burn. FACT. Whether you like it or not.
Fat is stored if you overeat from any of the macros. If you overeat protein, if you overeat fat, if you overeat carbs...doesn't matter the macro, it matters that you are overeating. Carbs are not somehow unique in that regard. Now it is quite possible that for you personally you struggled with satiation eating carbohydrates and found it much easier to establish a consistant deficit if you avoided carbs in which case sure, stick with that. But your assumption that what works for you works for everyone is just wrong. For some people avoiding carbs is going to make their diet and weightloss harder, not easier, because some people find carbs satisfying.11 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Because no one has ever lost weight eating carbohydrates? Look, I'm happy that that worked for you but telling someone to not substitute carbs for other carbs because it won't work is only something you can say about yourself, you can't just apply that to other people. Perhaps doing that didn't work for you, that doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
Don't even try that junk with me. I did NOT say anything along the lines of what you are trying to put in my mouth. Carbs ARE stored as fat when we eat more than we burn. FACT. Whether you like it or not.
No. Excess calories (carbs, fat and protein) are stored as fat when we're in a calorie surplus, not just carbs.
Neither are stored when we eat at a calorie deficit.3 -
AdamAthletic wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »AdamAthletic wrote: »
A calorie is simply a measurement of a chemical reaction within your body - fats, carbs and proteins all have a calorific value to them as a base minimum and then are generally surrounded by other content factors.ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I'm going to be the one to tell you that a calorie is not always a calorie. I have cut down on carbs in general and have lost 23 pounds with out changing my calories at all. So I am saying yes, as long as you do not replace those carbs with other carbs but rather with healthy fats and protein you will see positive results on the scale.
Chicken might be majorly protein, however the substance coating the chicken will likely be carbohydrate based (BBQ glaze, etc - chicken skin mainly consists of fats).
A calorie can never be anything other than a calorie because it isn't a nutrient, it's a way to measure the body's ability to displace energy.
Excess energy that isn't used as ATP and released is stored by the body as added bodyfat.
No mater how you choose to attain a calorie deficit, it will still be a calorie deficit regardless consistency of protein, fats or carbs.
Body composition is an entirely different beast but calories are relatively simple when you see them as what they are.
I think a calorie is a calorie but I also think it is fair to say that different people have different satiation dependent on what they eat and for some losing weight will become much easier if they substitute carbs for proteins and fats because they will feel much greater satiation on such a diet relative to their previous diet.
That doesn't mean that 100 calories of bread isn't the same amount of energy as 100 calories of chicken, just that for some people 100 calories of chicken will be much more satisfying and will allow for a caloric deficit that is comfortable rather than hunger-inducing.
I think really the answer is to experiment within your calorie limit that you have determined from your TDEE and the amount you want to lose and find out what types of foods satisfy you within that limit while still giving you your basic nutritional needs. Sometimes substituting more protein for refined carbs works well for that.
I certainly agree that satiety is a big factor, I've not for a second disputed that.
Certainly fat is much better for satiety than carbohydrate, it's the nature of the nutrient - your body will pick the carbohydrate to use as its first energy source and the fat as the last.
There are so many factors that come into play here but a calorie will always be a calorie and should somebody eat 100 calories or bread or 100 calories of chicken - the body will store no more or less bodyfat with one than the other.
All nutrients are as important as the last for differing reasons.
My explanation simply covers the indisputable fact that a calorie IS just a calorie.
Yeah wasn't disagreeing with your post, just elaborating a bit...I agree with you.
I think people who insist that a calorie is just a calorie and you could lose weight eating nothing but twinkies all day (I know you didn't say that) are TECHNICALLY correct but practically its a silly thing to say.
Those who say a calorie is not always a calorie are usually people who found for themselves that it took avoiding certain types of foods or macros to get a handle on their deficit and be successful and baulk at the idea that a calorie is always a calorie because they envision it is somehow the person suggesting they should eat twinkies all day and its fine.
Honestly its in between right. Yes a calorie is just a calorie technically, but practically for weight loss it is important to determine what works for you in terms of satiety while tracking your calories to make sure you are establishing a deficit.3 -
A LOT of people choosing to misunderstand my comment as well as put words into my mouth. I don't do these petty back and forth with word semantics, straw men, and general argumentative exchanges. Anyone who likes that sort of thing can take it over to the debate and arguments section of the forum. Otherwise don't expect any entertainment from me. Many people completely understand what I said as I stated it and many do not. Either way I am going to bed and will not lose a wink of sleep over any of it.
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