what are your thoughts on green tea extract?

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  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    wanzik wrote: »
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    Many teas are nice
    Some may have health benefits
    But not extract pills

    Not true. I talked about that in my first post in this thread if you care.

    And if you cared you would've read all the replies showing you that you were wrong.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,689 Member
    Jakep2323 wrote: »
    Lets all have a cup of tea

    I am!!

    This one ... because it smells so good, and tastes pretty good, and the camomile seems to relax me just before bed. The relaxation side might be my imagination, but that's OK because it smells and tastes good. :)

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  • crzycatlady1
    crzycatlady1 Posts: 1,930 Member
    Jakep2323 wrote: »
    Lets calm down...I'll put the kettle on...

    Drinking my mint black tea right now :)
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    We're also glossing over the fact that OP lost 10 lbs in 3 days. I think we all can agree that was water, possibly a little muscle and probably zero fat. Also still waiting to hear the time frame in which she lost 30 lbs.

    How would one lose muscle but not fat? It sounds like the OP is susceptible to water retention.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    IMO, 10 lbs in 3 days answers your question...
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    Jakep2323 wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    We're also glossing over the fact that OP lost 10 lbs in 3 days. I think we all can agree that was water, possibly a little muscle and probably zero fat. Also still waiting to hear the time frame in which she lost 30 lbs.

    How would one lose muscle but not fat? It sounds like the OP is susceptible to water retention.

    Very good point. He seemed so certain when using words like 'possibly' and 'probably' - complete guesswork lol

    Unclear what you are getting at...
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    edited December 2016
    J72FIT wrote: »
    We're also glossing over the fact that OP lost 10 lbs in 3 days. I think we all can agree that was water, possibly a little muscle and probably zero fat. Also still waiting to hear the time frame in which she lost 30 lbs.

    How would one lose muscle but not fat? It sounds like the OP is susceptible to water retention.

    I agree. That said, she claims green tea extract is helpful in burning fat.

    IMO, she did not burn any significant amount of fat in 3 days for a 10 lbs loss...
  • PhilP0wer
    PhilP0wer Posts: 76 Member
    edited December 2016
    So many people out here keep saying that there is no evidence that green tea helps with weight loss. smh. Does google not work for people?! Here's a link to an abstract of a 2009 study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19597519
    For people who don't like to read really bland research papers, multiple studies have found that drinking green tea has a very small positive effect on weight loss. I've also read studies that say that green tea extract is hard on your liver. My takeaway is that green tea is good, but not a weight loss miracle and green tea extract is bad (if I'm going to work my liver it's going to involve beer!).
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  • PhilP0wer
    PhilP0wer Posts: 76 Member
    2 lbs over 3 months. Stretch that out over a year and that matters. A lot of people on here are way too extremist for my taste. A weight loss method is not a failure just because it doesn't make you lose 2 or more lbs a month.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    edited December 2016
    2 lbs over 3 months is a drop in the ocean for anyone who really needs to lose weight and adding supplements for that little is useless for anyone who doesn't need to lose much to begin with.

    We're talking here about a possible 8-10 pounds in a year when the slow weight loss that is promoted here for people who don't need to lose that much is 25-50 per year.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    edited December 2016
    PhilP0wer wrote: »
    2 lbs over 3 months. Stretch that out over a year and that matters. A lot of people on here are way too extremist for my taste. A weight loss method is not a failure just because it doesn't make you lose 2 or more lbs a month.

    Is the 8 lbs loss in one year an additional 8lbs or would the loss have been the same or better with straight calorie control...?
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    Also in the study you posted, it did not show a statistically significant effect on caucasians, neither by itself nor compared to the other ethnicities.
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    How much green tea was being consumed by participants in the study?
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    Oh and it just says caffeine works for some people in the conclusion. Which is not unique to green tea and would be true for anyone particularly sensitive to the effects of caffeine. It can be a useful stimulant and appetite suppressant which will equal higher NEAT and fewer consumed calories. Et voila, a change in the CICO equation that results in a little weight loss.

    Once again, green tea isn't significantly magical.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    Yes, green tea is staple in my diet.

    Because I like it, it has caffeine, it keeps me warm, and I try to replace my desire to snack endlessly all day with zero calorie beverages.
  • PhilP0wer
    PhilP0wer Posts: 76 Member
    Oh and it just says caffeine works for some people in the conclusion. Which is not unique to green tea and would be true for anyone particularly sensitive to the effects of caffeine. It can be a useful stimulant and appetite suppressant which will equal higher NEAT and fewer consumed calories. Et voila, a change in the CICO equation that results in a little weight loss.

    Once again, green tea isn't significantly magical.

    Didn't say it was magical. More like one of many pieces available for a healthy lifestyle. I would put green tea right underneath water: each one you drink is a soda you are not drinking. You guys are missing the point here. If someone is doing something that has a minor effect on their metabolism and a major effect when it comes to lowering their calorie intake you should let them have it.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    PhilP0wer wrote: »
    Oh and it just says caffeine works for some people in the conclusion. Which is not unique to green tea and would be true for anyone particularly sensitive to the effects of caffeine. It can be a useful stimulant and appetite suppressant which will equal higher NEAT and fewer consumed calories. Et voila, a change in the CICO equation that results in a little weight loss.

    Once again, green tea isn't significantly magical.

    Didn't say it was magical. More like one of many pieces available for a healthy lifestyle. I would put green tea right underneath water: each one you drink is a soda you are not drinking. You guys are missing the point here. If someone is doing something that has a minor effect on their metabolism and a major effect when it comes to lowering their calorie intake you should let them have it.

    Nobody has told the OP that she has to quit taking green tea extract. People are just pointing out that that despite individual studies that show a small benefit, meta-analysis of overall studies doesn't show that there is any real weight loss benefit to taking green tea extract.
  • PhilP0wer
    PhilP0wer Posts: 76 Member
    edited December 2016
    Actually, I would recommend quitting green tea extract. Green tea itself is good and will help you lose a pound here or there over the long haul. If it's replacing soda it will help you lose a lot of weight due to removing calories from your diet. Green tea extract, however, can be hard on your liver. I personally wouldn't stress a major organ over something that might make me lose a couple lbs over an entire year. There are better ways
  • cuhris
    cuhris Posts: 12 Member
    edited December 2016
    Why is OP getting offended by realistic advice? It'll hard help your weight loss. You must being doing something else (dieting/cardio), or God may have given you divine calorie burning powers. :open_mouth:
  • onsickmom
    onsickmom Posts: 212 Member
    Green tea!!!! I have used it!!!!! Works like a dietetic..Cleans out the old pipes..,Suppose to be healthy for you...But beware even the deracinated has caffeine!!!! So be careful.?It's labeled non......tests have shown some to have as much as three cups of coffee worth of caffeine....And that's a dietetic too...Better than having a soda....I threw away my last box after I learned the caffeine lie...Dr.oz has article on his site about it.....I'm happy your losing....And were all different...What works for you may not for others..☺
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    2 lbs over 3 months is a drop in the ocean for anyone who really needs to lose weight and adding supplements for that little is useless for anyone who doesn't need to lose much to begin with.

    We're talking here about a possible 8-10 pounds in a year when the slow weight loss that is promoted here for people who don't need to lose that much is 25-50 per year.

    And the add, the bold would assume a linear relationship, which is highly unlikely to occur. IIRC, green tea has shown to be a slight appetite suppressant, which is why it could potentially help someone cut calories. But like all stimulants and suppressants, they would only last for short periods of time.
    PhilP0wer wrote: »
    So many people out here keep saying that there is no evidence that green tea helps with weight loss. smh. Does google not work for people?! Here's a link to an abstract of a 2009 study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19597519
    For people who don't like to read really bland research papers, multiple studies have found that drinking green tea has a very small positive effect on weight loss. I've also read studies that say that green tea extract is hard on your liver. My takeaway is that green tea is good, but not a weight loss miracle and green tea extract is bad (if I'm going to work my liver it's going to involve beer!).

    The bigger issue is, you are using one study to justify the means. If you take all the studies, as shown earlier in this thread, to look at consistency of results, they are highly unreliable and inconsistent.
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