what are your thoughts on green tea extract?
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missafwilliams wrote: »Thank you for your insightful opinions.
You're mistaking fact with opinions. Thermodynamics have nothing to do with herbal tea. Adding tea to gasoline won't change the fact that it becomes carbon monoxide. Same as adding tea to your diet won't change a surplus into a deficit.
"Energy cannot be destroyed or created, only changed from one form to another" please describe in detail the scientific benefits of this magical tea, also have you considered that green tea has caffeine in it, which is a diuretic, which might also influence your drop in weight due to the fact that you're having the equivalent of 6 cups a day? I among thousands of others drop from the double digits to the single digits in body fat yearly because we follow scientifically proven methods. If I were to drink tea daily it would have zero effect on my weight if I'm in a surplus.
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green tea talk boredom
Then Wow... Japanese Kit Kats!
who would have thunk it?6 -
http://www.aor.ca/en/product/active-green-tea there is some decent info on this site.0
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HappyVeganKitty wrote: »http://www.aor.ca/en/product/active-green-tea there is some decent info on this site.
They're trying to sell you the extract so I would expect they'd tell you it had a weight loss benefit.9 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
A cup of hot green tea with a couple of Dove dark chocolate Promises is divine. I also get a "cocoa-mint" green tea from Adagio that is really good. It's actually a great combination (though I've never had the green tea kitkats)! :drinker:1 -
HappyVeganKitty wrote: »http://www.aor.ca/en/product/active-green-tea there is some decent info on this site.
:laugh:
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ahoy_m8 when I worked in a bakery we would make chocolate cupcakes with (matcha) green tea icing so so so good!5
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peer reviewed studies
duplication of results
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HappyVeganKitty wrote: »http://www.aor.ca/en/product/active-green-tea there is some decent info on this site.
If woo and marketing hype is considered "decent info".3 -
HappyVeganKitty wrote: »http://www.aor.ca/en/product/active-green-tea there is some decent info on this site.
No there isn't.
Some decent marketing tactics, maybe.4 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »all I can say is if people want to believe it burns fat, to eat in a surplus of calories and drink a lot of green tea and see if it burns fat like you claim it does.
Nobody believes it will do that. Nobody has said that. Nobody has claimed that. It would certainly be nice but....
I think we all know we need deficit to lose fat. So we look for ways to cut intake AND ways to increase the burn rate.
basically the OP said that it did burn fat,the op even said that when she takes it even eating badly she doesnt gain as much weight taking it.she stated that she saw more weight loss from taking it 3 days as compared to before. so yes, they did say that just not in those exact words.
Maybe you can take it that way. I didn't and I still don't. I pretty much hinted at this in my post on the top of this page: Calorie deficit is the only way to lose weight. On one side you can reduce the intake and eat less calories. On the other side there are ways to get your body to burn more calories. But ultimately you can't take in more calories than you burn and lose weight. I believe we all know that.
I'm being purposely vague because if I get any more detailed and don't say something exactly right, some bros will jump on that and ignore the general idea I'm trying to get across.
I appreciate all the good, helpful comments by some people here. Lots of good ones. The sarcastic, smart-arsed, get-a-dig-in ones, on the other hand... two words and they are not "Merry Christmas!"
most of us know that it takes a deficit plain and simple,but not everyone knows that. some people believe the claims that these products make and think hey I can do x,y,z eat the way I want and still lose weight. people think these things burn fat,so that they can get rid of the fat without doing anything at all. people think it boosts metabolism(not enough to matter). so they believe that these things work, now for the ones who are in a deficit and using these products, some will believe its the product they are taking(I have seen it many many times with MLM products) and not the deficit.I think its up to those of us who know better to help those who may believe the hype with a lot of these products. It also helps newbies who come to these boards to know that a product doesnt work so they wont waste money, some still do just to see what happens.
Back in the early 90s I got involved in a MLM program for a product called Enrich. I, my mother and several friends, all obese, used products called Power Trim and Nature's Tea plus a couple other of their supplements. We all lost a TON in a very short time. It was not all water weight. Very rapid loss. Then the FDA banned one of the ingredients and it never worked the same again. I can't remember what it was they banned. We did eat less, smaller appetites, but it wasn't that much less to achieve that much of a drastic loss in such a short time. I was eating tacos and ice cream anf losing fat. No exercise at all. Same with all of us.
Of course, we had no plan and gained it all back. I mention this because I do believe there are supplements that can help one lose weight more rapidly. I don't really know how or why they work but try as I might, I never was able to replicate that loss again. None of us could and we all tried many times. Bottom line is that nobody will ever convince me that there's no such thing as a supplement that can help rapidly burn fat. That one got banned but there could be other, safer ones that help.
Now I believe I'm doing it the right way by making a lifestyle change, using MFP and losing weight slow. I'm a type 2 diabetic and in my research I found that green tea has some benefits for me so I take it. I understand some studies conflict but I just try to do the best I can. I hate green tea so I take a supplement and will continue to do so.
That said, with all due respect, I'm done with this one. At least for now. I think this has been beat to death.
I think it was probably ephedra. One of the effects is that it is actually mildly thermogenic (as opposed to the current marketing claims for various thermogenic products that when tested are complete bunk). Since it causes you to generate more heat than you would normally, it increases CO a bit and can help with weight loss. Additionally, it was often combined with an appetite suppressant to increase the weight loss effect.
Unfortunately, misusing it (or using it when you have underlying heart issues that you may not be aware of) can lead to death. Plus, you can turn it into illegal drugs with some chemistry know-how. So, it was banned.
Point being, yes, there are substances that when studied have been shown to reliably increase CO to some degree. None of those are available as legal supplements to the best of my knowledge. Substances that reduce CI tend to be more available to the general public.
I think ephedra was in the 2000s but my memory isn't the best. I tried ephedra too. That was in Stacker2. Did not work for me. Enrich's Power Trim and Nature's Tea worked wonders for everyone I knew who tried it.
Pardon, that would be ephedrine alkaloids - basically the effective chemicals found in ephedra. Ephedra is actually not banned. The ban was in 2004. The official FDA proposal for a ban was in the 1990's - the document includes Enrich Power Trim as one of many problematic products, listing a couple of instances of adverse effects while using it.
Anabolic steroids were classified as drugs in the 90's, so those would no longer have been allowed to be used in supplements, but were not banned.
In 1989/90, FDA issued a nationwide recall of all over-the-counter dietary supplements containing 100 milligrams or more of L-tryptophan and the importation of l-tryptophan was prohibited. L-tryptophan is not really used for weight loss, though.
Other than those, I can't find anything that would have affected dietary supplements in general. If it were only those products, I'd have figured that they were found to be adulterated (i.e. containing something not listed on the label) and pulled for that reason.2 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!!
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »all I can say is if people want to believe it burns fat, to eat in a surplus of calories and drink a lot of green tea and see if it burns fat like you claim it does.
Nobody believes it will do that. Nobody has said that. Nobody has claimed that. It would certainly be nice but....
I think we all know we need deficit to lose fat. So we look for ways to cut intake AND ways to increase the burn rate.
basically the OP said that it did burn fat,the op even said that when she takes it even eating badly she doesnt gain as much weight taking it.she stated that she saw more weight loss from taking it 3 days as compared to before. so yes, they did say that just not in those exact words.
Maybe you can take it that way. I didn't and I still don't. I pretty much hinted at this in my post on the top of this page: Calorie deficit is the only way to lose weight. On one side you can reduce the intake and eat less calories. On the other side there are ways to get your body to burn more calories. But ultimately you can't take in more calories than you burn and lose weight. I believe we all know that.
I'm being purposely vague because if I get any more detailed and don't say something exactly right, some bros will jump on that and ignore the general idea I'm trying to get across.
I appreciate all the good, helpful comments by some people here. Lots of good ones. The sarcastic, smart-arsed, get-a-dig-in ones, on the other hand... two words and they are not "Merry Christmas!"
most of us know that it takes a deficit plain and simple,but not everyone knows that. some people believe the claims that these products make and think hey I can do x,y,z eat the way I want and still lose weight. people think these things burn fat,so that they can get rid of the fat without doing anything at all. people think it boosts metabolism(not enough to matter). so they believe that these things work, now for the ones who are in a deficit and using these products, some will believe its the product they are taking(I have seen it many many times with MLM products) and not the deficit.I think its up to those of us who know better to help those who may believe the hype with a lot of these products. It also helps newbies who come to these boards to know that a product doesnt work so they wont waste money, some still do just to see what happens.
Back in the early 90s I got involved in a MLM program for a product called Enrich. I, my mother and several friends, all obese, used products called Power Trim and Nature's Tea plus a couple other of their supplements. We all lost a TON in a very short time. It was not all water weight. Very rapid loss. Then the FDA banned one of the ingredients and it never worked the same again. I can't remember what it was they banned. We did eat less, smaller appetites, but it wasn't that much less to achieve that much of a drastic loss in such a short time. I was eating tacos and ice cream anf losing fat. No exercise at all. Same with all of us.
Of course, we had no plan and gained it all back. I mention this because I do believe there are supplements that can help one lose weight more rapidly. I don't really know how or why they work but try as I might, I never was able to replicate that loss again. None of us could and we all tried many times. Bottom line is that nobody will ever convince me that there's no such thing as a supplement that can help rapidly burn fat. That one got banned but there could be other, safer ones that help.
Now I believe I'm doing it the right way by making a lifestyle change, using MFP and losing weight slow. I'm a type 2 diabetic and in my research I found that green tea has some benefits for me so I take it. I understand some studies conflict but I just try to do the best I can. I hate green tea so I take a supplement and will continue to do so.
That said, with all due respect, I'm done with this one. At least for now. I think this has been beat to death.
I think it was probably ephedra. One of the effects is that it is actually mildly thermogenic (as opposed to the current marketing claims for various thermogenic products that when tested are complete bunk). Since it causes you to generate more heat than you would normally, it increases CO a bit and can help with weight loss. Additionally, it was often combined with an appetite suppressant to increase the weight loss effect.
Unfortunately, misusing it (or using it when you have underlying heart issues that you may not be aware of) can lead to death. Plus, you can turn it into illegal drugs with some chemistry know-how. So, it was banned.
Point being, yes, there are substances that when studied have been shown to reliably increase CO to some degree. None of those are available as legal supplements to the best of my knowledge. Substances that reduce CI tend to be more available to the general public.
I think ephedra was in the 2000s but my memory isn't the best. I tried ephedra too. That was in Stacker2. Did not work for me. Enrich's Power Trim and Nature's Tea worked wonders for everyone I knew who tried it.
Pardon, that would be ephedrine alkaloids - basically the effective chemicals found in ephedra. Ephedra is actually not banned. The ban was in 2004. The official FDA proposal for a ban was in the 1990's - the document includes Enrich Power Trim as one of many problematic products, listing a couple of instances of adverse effects while using it.
Anabolic steroids were classified as drugs in the 90's, so those would no longer have been allowed to be used in supplements, but were not banned.
In 1989/90, FDA issued a nationwide recall of all over-the-counter dietary supplements containing 100 milligrams or more of L-tryptophan and the importation of l-tryptophan was prohibited. L-tryptophan is not really used for weight loss, though.
Other than those, I can't find anything that would have affected dietary supplements in general. If it were only those products, I'd have figured that they were found to be adulterated (i.e. containing something not listed on the label) and pulled for that reason.
Something was definitely removed from the Nature's Tea. Power Trim was reformulated at the same time. Could have been ephedra - I keep thinking some kind of "leaf" but maybe that's what it was. I'm sure that the Tea had whatever was banned or what the FDA was trying to crack down on at the time. Enrich itself was the source of that info as the reason they removed it. The original worked great for me and several others. I'd love to have it now. It definitely reduced appetite while increasing Calories Out.0 -
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »all I can say is if people want to believe it burns fat, to eat in a surplus of calories and drink a lot of green tea and see if it burns fat like you claim it does.
Nobody believes it will do that. Nobody has said that. Nobody has claimed that. It would certainly be nice but....
I think we all know we need deficit to lose fat. So we look for ways to cut intake AND ways to increase the burn rate.
basically the OP said that it did burn fat,the op even said that when she takes it even eating badly she doesnt gain as much weight taking it.she stated that she saw more weight loss from taking it 3 days as compared to before. so yes, they did say that just not in those exact words.
Maybe you can take it that way. I didn't and I still don't. I pretty much hinted at this in my post on the top of this page: Calorie deficit is the only way to lose weight. On one side you can reduce the intake and eat less calories. On the other side there are ways to get your body to burn more calories. But ultimately you can't take in more calories than you burn and lose weight. I believe we all know that.
I'm being purposely vague because if I get any more detailed and don't say something exactly right, some bros will jump on that and ignore the general idea I'm trying to get across.
I appreciate all the good, helpful comments by some people here. Lots of good ones. The sarcastic, smart-arsed, get-a-dig-in ones, on the other hand... two words and they are not "Merry Christmas!"
most of us know that it takes a deficit plain and simple,but not everyone knows that. some people believe the claims that these products make and think hey I can do x,y,z eat the way I want and still lose weight. people think these things burn fat,so that they can get rid of the fat without doing anything at all. people think it boosts metabolism(not enough to matter). so they believe that these things work, now for the ones who are in a deficit and using these products, some will believe its the product they are taking(I have seen it many many times with MLM products) and not the deficit.I think its up to those of us who know better to help those who may believe the hype with a lot of these products. It also helps newbies who come to these boards to know that a product doesnt work so they wont waste money, some still do just to see what happens.
Back in the early 90s I got involved in a MLM program for a product called Enrich. I, my mother and several friends, all obese, used products called Power Trim and Nature's Tea plus a couple other of their supplements. We all lost a TON in a very short time. It was not all water weight. Very rapid loss. Then the FDA banned one of the ingredients and it never worked the same again. I can't remember what it was they banned. We did eat less, smaller appetites, but it wasn't that much less to achieve that much of a drastic loss in such a short time. I was eating tacos and ice cream anf losing fat. No exercise at all. Same with all of us.
Of course, we had no plan and gained it all back. I mention this because I do believe there are supplements that can help one lose weight more rapidly. I don't really know how or why they work but try as I might, I never was able to replicate that loss again. None of us could and we all tried many times. Bottom line is that nobody will ever convince me that there's no such thing as a supplement that can help rapidly burn fat. That one got banned but there could be other, safer ones that help.
Now I believe I'm doing it the right way by making a lifestyle change, using MFP and losing weight slow. I'm a type 2 diabetic and in my research I found that green tea has some benefits for me so I take it. I understand some studies conflict but I just try to do the best I can. I hate green tea so I take a supplement and will continue to do so.
That said, with all due respect, I'm done with this one. At least for now. I think this has been beat to death.
I think it was probably ephedra. One of the effects is that it is actually mildly thermogenic (as opposed to the current marketing claims for various thermogenic products that when tested are complete bunk). Since it causes you to generate more heat than you would normally, it increases CO a bit and can help with weight loss. Additionally, it was often combined with an appetite suppressant to increase the weight loss effect.
Unfortunately, misusing it (or using it when you have underlying heart issues that you may not be aware of) can lead to death. Plus, you can turn it into illegal drugs with some chemistry know-how. So, it was banned.
Point being, yes, there are substances that when studied have been shown to reliably increase CO to some degree. None of those are available as legal supplements to the best of my knowledge. Substances that reduce CI tend to be more available to the general public.
I think ephedra was in the 2000s but my memory isn't the best. I tried ephedra too. That was in Stacker2. Did not work for me. Enrich's Power Trim and Nature's Tea worked wonders for everyone I knew who tried it.
Pardon, that would be ephedrine alkaloids - basically the effective chemicals found in ephedra. Ephedra is actually not banned. The ban was in 2004. The official FDA proposal for a ban was in the 1990's - the document includes Enrich Power Trim as one of many problematic products, listing a couple of instances of adverse effects while using it.
Anabolic steroids were classified as drugs in the 90's, so those would no longer have been allowed to be used in supplements, but were not banned.
In 1989/90, FDA issued a nationwide recall of all over-the-counter dietary supplements containing 100 milligrams or more of L-tryptophan and the importation of l-tryptophan was prohibited. L-tryptophan is not really used for weight loss, though.
Other than those, I can't find anything that would have affected dietary supplements in general. If it were only those products, I'd have figured that they were found to be adulterated (i.e. containing something not listed on the label) and pulled for that reason.
Something was definitely removed from the Nature's Tea. Power Trim was reformulated at the same time. Could have been ephedra - I keep thinking some kind of "leaf" but maybe that's what it was. I'm sure that the Tea had whatever was banned or what the FDA was trying to crack down on at the time. Enrich itself was the source of that info as the reason they removed it. The original worked great for me and several others. I'd love to have it now. It definitely reduced appetite while increasing Calories Out.
Nasal decongestants contain Ephedra and can be purchased over the counter. It was and is one of the most researched and effective legal appetite supressants when combined with caffeine.0 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!!
You know you want to do this...
and I'm jealous... can't buy them here... At least not in any shop within a decent distance of where I live/work1 -
trigden1991 wrote: »
It's how I start my kickstart my metabolism in the mornings.3 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!!
Buy them for me. I will pay you back.
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HappyVeganKitty wrote: »http://www.aor.ca/en/product/active-green-tea there is some decent info on this site.
Okay. I went to your link.
Gotta admit that a company calling itself "Advanced Orthomolecular Research" was impressive. So was their tagline, "Innovative Research - Scientific Integrity."
Then my eyes moved to the right and saw the "Become A Retailer" link.
So what you have is a website promoting their own products for sale by trying to look all legitimate and science-y. So no, there's absolutely no "decent info on this site."
An appearance of legitimacy on the interwebs is something anyone who can design a webpage can achieve. If you really care to learn the truth about whatever the latest derp and woo fad that Dr. Oz and others are currently promoting, the sites of the companies actually selling it simply cannot be regarded as a source of anything but income for them.
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ladyreva78 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!! You know you want to do this...
and I'm jealous... can't buy them here... At least not in any shop within a decent distance of where I live/workladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!!
Buy them for me. I will pay you back.
I actually went to the closest shop at lunch today and ......
...... they were sold out of them!!!!!!
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ladyreva78 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!! You know you want to do this...
and I'm jealous... can't buy them here... At least not in any shop within a decent distance of where I live/workladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!!
Buy them for me. I will pay you back.
I actually went to the closest shop at lunch today and ......
...... they were sold out of them!!!!!!
Did you check eBay? You can usually find anything trendy there.
For 3 times the usual price because supply and demand. 0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!! You know you want to do this...
and I'm jealous... can't buy them here... At least not in any shop within a decent distance of where I live/workladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!!
Buy them for me. I will pay you back.
I actually went to the closest shop at lunch today and ......
...... they were sold out of them!!!!!!
Did you check eBay? You can usually find anything trendy there.
For 3 times the usual price because supply and demand.
Amazon. There's all kinds of flavors.0 -
I am in Japan right now and loading up on all the Kit Kats.5
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snickerscharlie wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!! You know you want to do this...
and I'm jealous... can't buy them here... At least not in any shop within a decent distance of where I live/workladyreva78 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »
I have a store nearby that carries them. Japanese Kit Kats come in a ton of interesting flavors. I've been keeping an eye out for the sake flavored ones they just released for a friend. Hehe
Apologies for going off topic, but are they as sweet as US kitkats? And chocolate covered? Or are they more like wine biscuits ? I'm having trouble reconciling chocolate and green tea.
Regarding green tea Kit Kats ...
No, they are not particularly sweet. They do have some sweetness, but it is not overly sweet, and there's a hint of bitterness to it. That's one of the things I like about them.
No, they are not chocolate covered ... they're covered in green tea. It's a green tea coating ... sort of like an icing, with a similar consistency to the chocolate that covers chocolate Kit Kats. There's a chance it might be mixed with white chocolate, but I don't detect any chocolate flavour at all.
It actually is white chocolate mixed with green tea. I usually don't much care for white but in this case...
A quarter of my suitcase is usually filled with those goodies when I go to Japan! Sadly I had the last one just yesterday and my next trip isn't for sometime...
And now I want to go downstairs and buy some. There are two shops that have them within about 250 metres of where I'm sitting right now.
Must resist!!
Buy them for me. I will pay you back.
I actually went to the closest shop at lunch today and ......
...... they were sold out of them!!!!!!
Did you check eBay? You can usually find anything trendy there.
For 3 times the usual price because supply and demand.
I took it as a sign that I really didn't need them. I could have just gone round to the other store, but had to get back because my lunch break was over.
We've got shops that sell them all over town.
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Total thread hijack. Went from fat loss to kitkat obsession. I love watching bro science threads implode on themselves4
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I'm a scientist today and I owe my decision to go into that field to an experience in my late teens. Back in high school, I was fortunate enough to get involved in a special program where high school students teamed up with a real scientist to do a research project. We were responsible for the idea, and the supervisor designed experiments and his lab staff and students helped us perform them. Along the way we had to learn as much as possible about the topic. We ended up taking third prize out of more than 25 entries.
Our topic was "Does green tea extract fight cancer?" What we did was to take cultures of human cancer cells (prostate cancer) and treat them with both green tea extract and the main compound, EGCG, believed to be responsible for the anti-cancer effect. There were, of course, also controls. Then we used a method called the comet assay, where the cell is broken open, treated with electricity to pull out the DNA (DNA has an electric charge) and dyed. Finally, we looked at hundreds of cells under a microscope to determine the length of the "tail" coming out of each cell. The idea is to determine the amount of damage done to the DNA of the cell. Longer tails mean more damaged DNA. And damaged DNA is the main reason that cancer develops. Much of that damage is caused by oxidation (reaction with certain oxygen compounds, like peroxide) and green tea, as an anti-oxidant, helps to reduce that form of damage. (Since we were working with cancer cells, the DNA was already damaged and would become progressively worse. The idea is that green tea might slow the damage.)
The technical stuff aside, we found that green tea extract does protect against DNA damage, and it does so better than pure EGCG. That confirmed, incidentally, the suspicions of the woman at the health food store who sold us one of our extracts: green tea extract has many compounds that work together to fight DNA damage,
Of course, lots of research has been done on this topic, but I wanted to share my personal connection with green tea extract.0 -
@rks581 I'm just curious - what is your field of study?1
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I'm a scientist today and I owe my decision to go into that field to an experience in my late teens. Back in high school, I was fortunate enough to get involved in a special program where high school students teamed up with a real scientist to do a research project. We were responsible for the idea, and the supervisor designed experiments and his lab staff and students helped us perform them. Along the way we had to learn as much as possible about the topic. We ended up taking third prize out of more than 25 entries.
Our topic was "Does green tea extract fight cancer?" What we did was to take cultures of human cancer cells (prostate cancer) and treat them with both green tea extract and the main compound, EGCG, believed to be responsible for the anti-cancer effect. There were, of course, also controls. Then we used a method called the comet assay, where the cell is broken open, treated with electricity to pull out the DNA (DNA has an electric charge) and dyed. Finally, we looked at hundreds of cells under a microscope to determine the length of the "tail" coming out of each cell. The idea is to determine the amount of damage done to the DNA of the cell. Longer tails mean more damaged DNA. And damaged DNA is the main reason that cancer develops. Much of that damage is caused by oxidation (reaction with certain oxygen compounds, like peroxide) and green tea, as an anti-oxidant, helps to reduce that form of damage. (Since we were working with cancer cells, the DNA was already damaged and would become progressively worse. The idea is that green tea might slow the damage.)
The technical stuff aside, we found that green tea extract does protect against DNA damage, and it does so better than pure EGCG. That confirmed, incidentally, the suspicions of the woman at the health food store who sold us one of our extracts: green tea extract has many compounds that work together to fight DNA damage,
Of course, lots of research has been done on this topic, but I wanted to share my personal connection with green tea extract.
Is there a difference between direct application and ingesting? What with the whole digestive process and all.4
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