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microwoman999 wrote: »I'm looking for some friends that would be on a diet like this so I can get recipes ideas. I'm having a hard time finding things I can eat easily during the day. I can not have any sugar not even diet pop or crystal light products. Hoping someone else is on this crazy diet.
Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are a wide range of diets in there from vegan to almost exclusively carnivorous, and 150 g of of carbs per day to almost none. Lots of success stories with people who have been low carb for years and kept of the weight without much issue.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
Good luck.Are you going to do this forever? Because if not, once you add sugar or any type back to your diet, your glycogen reduced cells will replenish and weight could easily go up 5-10lbs. Glycogen is stored from the break down of any sugars and is NEEDED for physical activity.
I think you must have mistyped some of this. It isn't true. Adding sugar of any type back into your diet does not result in a glycogen regain of 5-10lbs. Low carb athletes replace glycogen storage just fine. The Faster study looked into it and found no real difference. At all.
Now if you'd typed a pound or so of water will be regained, I would agree completely.
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If you eat all the beef and pork you want I would think you would gain weight and your cholesterol would increase. You should talk to a dietician for dietary advice of this nature. MDs don't specialize in diets and it sounds like this doctor is giving general guidelines but if you eat the way you describe you can easily gain weight and have other health issues. If you eat to much of anything you will have negative side effects. There is nothing wrong with low carb if it's done correctly. Good luck4
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microwoman999 wrote: »I'm looking for some friends that would be on a diet like this so I can get recipes ideas. I'm having a hard time finding things I can eat easily during the day. I can not have any sugar not even diet pop or crystal light products. Hoping someone else is on this crazy diet.
I'm on the same diet!4 -
microwoman999 wrote: »Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
The paper he gave me states
1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.
Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it
Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.
Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok
Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.
Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like
Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.
Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.
As I was reading through your doctor's recommendations, I was assuming he was suggesting this diet because you had a specific medical issue that required an aggressive decrease in sugar and carbs. Then, I got to the bolded part. With respect, if your doctor thinks this is the best way for you to lose weight, then I would consult someone else about your weight loss plan. Most GPs and internists don't have specialized training in diet and nutrition and I firmly believe that a diet as restrictive as this is setting you up to fail. This is not a sustainable diet and once you've reached your goal weight - assuming you don't stray from this diet long beforehand - you're likely to regain weight once you start eating normal food again.17 -
microwoman999 wrote: »Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
The paper he gave me states
1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.
Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it
Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.
Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok
Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.
Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like
Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.
Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.
This sounds so horrible. Why restrict yourself so much? Are you going to eat this way forever...? Eat what you want as long as it is under your daily calories, and you will lose weight. That's it. I agree with everyone here and that you need to see a dietician and not your doctor.2 -
All of these that you mentioned have zero sugar. Zero. This makes no sense. He may be your doctor, but that doesn't automatically mean he knows about nutrition.microwoman999 wrote: »Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
The paper he gave me states
1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.
Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it
Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.
Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok
Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.
Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like
Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.
Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.
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This is basically a Ketogenic, or high fat/low carb diet (HFLC). I've eaten this way for over a year and have lost over 30 lbs.
This type of diet is good for those who have a lot of weight to lose. The fat consumed helps increase the feeling of satiety; allowing for decreased cravings and hunger.
Mainstream nutrition generally doesn't agree with this type of diet, but it works.15 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »
All of these that you mentioned have zero sugar. Zero. This makes no sense. He may be your doctor, but that doesn't automatically mean he knows about nutrition.microwoman999 wrote: »Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
The paper he gave me states
1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.
Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it
Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.
Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok
Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.
Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like
Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.
Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.
Sugar twins? ? This could be another word for Artificial sweeteners. I've never heard the term used before.
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tinaisstillwell wrote: »This is basically a Ketogenic, or high fat/low carb diet (HFLC). I've eaten this way for over a year and have lost over 30 lbs.
This type of diet is good for those who have a lot of weight to lose. The fat consumed helps increase the feeling of satiety; allowing for decreased cravings and hunger.
Mainstream nutrition generally doesn't agree with this type of diet, but it works.
Eating less calories thn you used lost you 30 pounds, Not the diet. If it satisfies a person sure go for it as a useful tool but its a bit silly to preach it as a good diet for everyone because it definatly works9 -
microwoman999 wrote: »Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
The paper he gave me states
1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.
Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it
Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.
Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok
Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.
Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like
Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.
Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.
Happily, you do not have to do that in order to lose weight if you don't want to.
If that's what you want to do, that's OK ... but if you would prefer to include more food, you can do that too.
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Christine_72 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »
All of these that you mentioned have zero sugar. Zero. This makes no sense. He may be your doctor, but that doesn't automatically mean he knows about nutrition.microwoman999 wrote: »Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
The paper he gave me states
1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.
Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it
Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.
Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok
Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.
Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like
Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.
Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.
Sugar twins? ? This could be another word for Artificial sweeteners. I've never heard the term used before.
It's a brand name ... http://www.sugartwin.com/
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Sugar twin is a brand of sweetener, i use it in my tea lolChristine_72 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »
All of these that you mentioned have zero sugar. Zero. This makes no sense. He may be your doctor, but that doesn't automatically mean he knows about nutrition.microwoman999 wrote: »Thank you for some insightful tips and the website I will look at that Jeanieneni. This is the diet my doctor put me on.
The paper he gave me states
1. If it tastes sweet it has sugar examples.... orange juice, fruits , all diet sodas and crystal light. No Splenda, equal or sugar twins.
2. If food is off white or white in color it's most likely starch ( few exceptions). Example no bread, pizza, cake, pies, pastas, rice and potatoes.
Rule of thumb white or sweet you can not have it
Meat- all I want: beef, pork, poultry, seafood, rabbit as much as I want.
Veggies- you can eat all the fresh or frozen veggies excluding corn, beans, and peas. Green beans are ok
Garden salads- as much as I like. Dressing only oil and vinegar, Italian and Caesar.
Eggs- you can eat all the eggs, bacon and sausage you like
Last but not least lots of water at least half a gallon a day which is easy for me I love water.
Please don't judge what my doctor put me on. Some of you had some lovely comments. This is not an insane diet it is just what my doctor put me on. All I asked for was for help from those who were on a similar diet. Maybe I should have written the whole chart like this from the beginning. I do not have sugar issues This is what he said would help me loose the best and I just said I would try it. I'm 2 weeks in and have lost 5.4lbs without being 100% on this diet and lost an inch in the waist and an inch in the hips.
Sugar twins? ? This could be another word for Artificial sweeteners. I've never heard the term used before.
It's a brand name ... http://www.sugartwin.com/
Oh crap snort
I thought it was a new fangle term for AS's. 4 -
tinaisstillwell wrote: »This is basically a Ketogenic, or high fat/low carb diet (HFLC). I've eaten this way for over a year and have lost over 30 lbs.
This type of diet is good for those who have a lot of weight to lose. The fat consumed helps increase the feeling of satiety; allowing for decreased cravings and hunger.
Mainstream nutrition generally doesn't agree with this type of diet, but it works.
It works for you. But you have to realize that satiety is a very individual thing. Fats, for example, do absolutely nothing to satiate me.12 -
So far I have gotten good help. Thank you for the website to look at for a ketogenic diet. Also the suggestion to go to the low carber daily group. As I mistakenly put no carbs and I have realized it was a low carb no sugar diet. I am new to this diet and I see not many people understand why I'm on this restrictive diet. I am not on it for medical reasons. My doctor put me on it to loose weight. He explained that women mostly gain weight in the belly and hip area eating carbs and sugar and that this diet would help get rid of that area. I said I would try this diet. I'm only a couple of weeks in and instead of giving up I asked for help on ideas for eating and hoping to find others on a diet similar to this to get extra support. I have lost weight so I don't see the point on giving up on it yet. I'm not eating 100% for this diet yet but I am trying to transition into it and learn new ways to plan meals and snacks to be within this diet. Again thank you to those who have been helpful. I really needed the advice.6
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CafeRacer808 wrote: »tinaisstillwell wrote: »This is basically a Ketogenic, or high fat/low carb diet (HFLC). I've eaten this way for over a year and have lost over 30 lbs.
This type of diet is good for those who have a lot of weight to lose. The fat consumed helps increase the feeling of satiety; allowing for decreased cravings and hunger.
Mainstream nutrition generally doesn't agree with this type of diet, but it works.
It works for you. But you have to realize that satiety is a very individual thing. Fats, for example, do absolutely nothing to satiate me.
No one diet is suitable for everyone, of course, but low carb diets are absolutely effective for weight loss. They've proven to be at least as effective as calorie controlled diets in randomized controlled trials and often time perform better.5 -
microwoman999 wrote: »So far I have gotten good help. Thank you for the website to look at for a ketogenic diet. Also the suggestion to go to the low carber daily group. As I mistakenly put no carbs and I have realized it was a low carb no sugar diet. I am new to this diet and I see not many people understand why I'm on this restrictive diet. I am not on it for medical reasons. My doctor put me on it to loose weight. He explained that women mostly gain weight in the belly and hip area eating carbs and sugar and that this diet would help get rid of that area. I said I would try this diet. I'm only a couple of weeks in and instead of giving up I asked for help on ideas for eating and hoping to find others on a diet similar to this to get extra support. I have lost weight so I don't see the point on giving up on it yet. I'm not eating 100% for this diet yet but I am trying to transition into it and learn new ways to plan meals and snacks to be within this diet. Again thank you to those who have been helpful. I really needed the advice.
If it works for you, there's nothing wrong with it...but your doctor was incorrect if he thinks a certain type of diet will help you spot-reduce. If it lowers your calories enough, it will help you lose weight, but the weight will come off wherever your body decides to take it from.
At the end of the day, if you enjoy eating the foods prescribed by this diet and you are seeing the results you want, that's all that matters.11
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