No sugars and no carbs

PokeyBug

Christine_72 wrote: »

Sugar twins? ? This could be another word for Artificial sweeteners. I've never heard the term used before.

It's the brand name of an artificial sweetener. I think it's aspartame.

microwoman999

I really have to laugh. I'm not saying it's funny as I had my gallbladder out several years ago in 2009 and what usually triggers the bathroom issue is spicy food and it doesn't have to be that spicy. Chipotle does it too me. In fact funny as it sounds lettuce is another thing that can cause it. Not always but can. I don't have many things that can cause it but I know some foods trigger it. I noticed this week it has been a little more of an issue but it only was on the days I had salad with my food. Weather it was incorporated in my dinner or a side salad. Needless to say it's not just high fat that causes it. I think everyone's body handles it different. I only know what my body can handle and I have taken a break from salads. So if you have issues with your gallbladder definitely consult your physician but you will learn what bothers you. Even if it means a couple of trips to the restroom. Unfortunately that is an annoying thing that will follow me for the rest of my life but I'm quite ok with it.

CharlieBeansmomTracey

microwoman999 wrote: »

I really have to laugh. I'm not saying it's funny as I had my gallbladder out several years ago in 2009 and what usually triggers the bathroom issue is spicy food and it doesn't have to be that spicy. Chipotle does it too me. In fact funny as it sounds lettuce is another thing that can cause it. Not always but can. I don't have many things that can cause it but I know some foods trigger it. I noticed this week it has been a little more of an issue but it only was on the days I had salad with my food. Weather it was incorporated in my dinner or a side salad. Needless to say it's not just high fat that causes it. I think everyone's body handles it different. I only know what my body can handle and I have taken a break from salads. So if you have issues with your gallbladder definitely consult your physician but you will learn what bothers you. Even if it means a couple of trips to the restroom. Unfortunately that is an annoying thing that will follow me for the rest of my life but I'm quite ok with it.

yeah some people cant digest lettuce gallbladder or not. I used to be one of those people,I dont know whats changed but I dont have to run to the bathroom now after eating salad,but I dont eat it often lol

TerrieC91

This website has pretty good low carb recipes!!! http://www.kalynskitchen.com

AnnPT77

firef1y72 wrote: »

kaytbugz09 wrote: »

I've been doing keto/low carb since Halloween and it's been GREAT! Everyone who is freaking out on @microwoman999 needs to stop. A lot of people are on a similar diet, Low Carb/High Fat, and have had great success. I'm not extremely strict on the diet. If I want to eat a sandwich with real bread, ice cream, etc., I go ahead and have it. Only if I really want it. Otherwise, my sugar/carb cravings have practically disappeared. All symptoms from my bad gall bladder have disappeared. My bloodwork, taken just before Christmas, shows great improvements in cholesterol in the past year. I've also lost 15 pounds and two pant sizes! Sure, it sounds sketchy, but it is sustainable and it does work. Don't just automatically assume that a doctor is crazy for suggesting such a diet!

If anyone is suffering from gallstones or has had their gallbladder removed please, please, please seek medical advice before trying a high fat diet. It's generally recommended to avoid fat if you have gallbladder issues and many of those who have had their gallbladder removed end up unable to cope with anything fatty with quite spectacular results (there is a name for the condition but I can't remember what it is), I can't even drink full fat milk without experiencing similar to the side effects of Alli+too much fat. It's all rather unpleasant and painful.

Yet it isn't this way for everyone (I don't know whether it's "many" or "some" - I would've guessed the latter based on multiple people I've discussed it with).

I had my gall bladder out in 2015 while losing weight - not gallstones, but rather adenomyomatosis and cholesterolosis. Same end result, though: No gall bladder.

I was advised to follow a low-fat diet for a month or so afterward (not a problem since I was in calorie deficit ), then allowed to cautiously re-introduce fat if I wished.

I have every confidence I could go out right now and eat an extra-large order of (say) deep-fried beer-battered onion rings with ranch dressing (even though I prefer catsup), and the only price I'd pay would be caloric. I've eaten high fat meals multiple times since the surgery, with no unusual - let alone violent - consequences. I routinely eat full-fat cheese and other fat-rich foods (in reasonable portions) with no problems.

Like you, I'd encourage caution by others, because problems with fat digestion can be an after-effect. But I don't want those facing the surgery to believe it's universal.

blambo61

ninerbuff wrote: »

Are you going to do this forever? Because if not, once you add sugar or any type back to your diet, your glycogen reduced cells will replenish and weight could easily go up 5-10lbs. Glycogen is stored from the break down of any sugars and is NEEDED for physical activity.

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You can run off of butyrate pretty well and also the body can produce glucose from fats and proteins. You don't have to eat carbs but I wouldn't do this, unless there was a medical reason, because I love carbs (fruits, veg, whole grains, legumes, etc - and some refined sugar) and also don't want to miss out on micro-nutrients. I don't understand doing this if a person doesn't have a medical condition. A lot of people say it makes them feel better and reduces inflamation and also is good for diabetics so those can be good reasons. Also, although not required to lose weight, it does seem to take it off quick which can be motivation also.

firef1y72

psuLemon wrote: »

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

firef1y72 wrote: »

kaytbugz09 wrote: »

I've been doing keto/low carb since Halloween and it's been GREAT! Everyone who is freaking out on @microwoman999 needs to stop. A lot of people are on a similar diet, Low Carb/High Fat, and have had great success. I'm not extremely strict on the diet. If I want to eat a sandwich with real bread, ice cream, etc., I go ahead and have it. Only if I really want it. Otherwise, my sugar/carb cravings have practically disappeared. All symptoms from my bad gall bladder have disappeared. My bloodwork, taken just before Christmas, shows great improvements in cholesterol in the past year. I've also lost 15 pounds and two pant sizes! Sure, it sounds sketchy, but it is sustainable and it does work. Don't just automatically assume that a doctor is crazy for suggesting such a diet!

If anyone is suffering from gallstones or has had their gallbladder removed please, please, please seek medical advice before trying a high fat diet. It's generally recommended to avoid fat if you have gallbladder issues and many of those who have had their gallbladder removed end up unable to cope with anything fatty with quite spectacular results (there is a name for the condition but I can't remember what it is), I can't even drink full fat milk without experiencing similar to the side effects of Alli+too much fat. It's all rather unpleasant and painful.

yes,my sister had hers out and high fat foods,ice cream,etc shes in the bathroom not 20 min later

Same with my wife (hers actually ruptured). So if she is ever constipated, we just get wings. Problem solved.

Yep must admit that when I'm constipated I'll eat something high fat and make sure I'm within running distance of the toilet for the rest of the day/night.

psuLemon

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

microwoman999 wrote: »

I really have to laugh. I'm not saying it's funny as I had my gallbladder out several years ago in 2009 and what usually triggers the bathroom issue is spicy food and it doesn't have to be that spicy. Chipotle does it too me. In fact funny as it sounds lettuce is another thing that can cause it. Not always but can. I don't have many things that can cause it but I know some foods trigger it. I noticed this week it has been a little more of an issue but it only was on the days I had salad with my food. Weather it was incorporated in my dinner or a side salad. Needless to say it's not just high fat that causes it. I think everyone's body handles it different. I only know what my body can handle and I have taken a break from salads. So if you have issues with your gallbladder definitely consult your physician but you will learn what bothers you. Even if it means a couple of trips to the restroom. Unfortunately that is an annoying thing that will follow me for the rest of my life but I'm quite ok with it.

yeah some people cant digest lettuce gallbladder or not. I used to be one of those people,I dont know whats changed but I dont have to run to the bathroom now after eating salad,but I dont eat it often lol

Interesting you say this. My wife can't eat salads either.

mvictoria72

I follow the same diet. Research Ketogenic Diets. Although many refer to these sort of diets as "no carb" or "no sugar" usually what is actually meant is EXTREMELY low carb. I keep my carbs below 20g/day. Planning meals takes research but after a few weeks you are able to put together healthy meals that will give you all your nutrients with out any thought at all. Logging all my food for the day in the morning helps me a lot. As far as fruits, try grapefruit or berries. I don't believe that diets like this are harmful if you take the time to research. A little knowledge goes along way. With any diet, only blindly following the masses or only half committing will lead to failure. Good Luck!

rcrough

No thanks. I wouldn't discourage you from trying it but I've tried this in the past. I was miserable because it was unsustainable for me. It was so bad I shunned dieting altogether to a while. Went off the deep end really. I am better now and have been successful with simply watching my calories and exercise, exercise, exercise (I can say it enough). Best of luck. If you want to see what is working for me, I have a blog here describing it. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/rcrough

KANGOOJUMPS

I try to do no sugar, but I need my carbs.. they are my fuel, I burn 1000 calories a day.

GottaBurnEmAll

firef1y72 wrote: »

kaytbugz09 wrote: »

I've been doing keto/low carb since Halloween and it's been GREAT! Everyone who is freaking out on @microwoman999 needs to stop. A lot of people are on a similar diet, Low Carb/High Fat, and have had great success. I'm not extremely strict on the diet. If I want to eat a sandwich with real bread, ice cream, etc., I go ahead and have it. Only if I really want it. Otherwise, my sugar/carb cravings have practically disappeared. All symptoms from my bad gall bladder have disappeared. My bloodwork, taken just before Christmas, shows great improvements in cholesterol in the past year. I've also lost 15 pounds and two pant sizes! Sure, it sounds sketchy, but it is sustainable and it does work. Don't just automatically assume that a doctor is crazy for suggesting such a diet!

If anyone is suffering from gallstones or has had their gallbladder removed please, please, please seek medical advice before trying a high fat diet. It's generally recommended to avoid fat if you have gallbladder issues and many of those who have had their gallbladder removed end up unable to cope with anything fatty with quite spectacular results (there is a name for the condition but I can't remember what it is), I can't even drink full fat milk without experiencing similar to the side effects of Alli+too much fat. It's all rather unpleasant and painful.

I don't have gallbladder issues, but I have those digestive issues if I eat a lot of fat.

I need to keep my fat intake low because I have familial hypercholesterolemia anyway, so no worries.

kammy92

I'm low carb too.......

addicted2cola

I'm not reading through 10 pages of comments, so I don't know if it's been posted, but have you tried ruled.me/? They've got some fantastic low-carb recipes! Seriously, there's a Bacon Cheeseburger Soup recipe that's probably one of the best things I've ever eaten (I added onion and red pepper, so not quite as low carb, but still delish). ruled.me/bacon-cheeseburger-soup/

Susie_Magoozie

snickerscharlie wrote: »

Firesprite93 wrote: »

My dietician has put me on something similar. I'm only allowed a total of 105g of carbs a day. And they have to be consumed in small 15g increments except lunch which is 30g.
It is because I am insulin resistant, and have hypothyroidism. Making it very difficult to lose weight, even on a calorie deficit

If your hypothyroidism is being properly managed through medication, it's really not more difficult to lose weight than for a 'normal' person, since the med supplements what your thyroid would be producing if it was working properly. The medication levels the playing field, if you will. I have Hashimoto's and I lost 75 lbs within a year, and reached my goal weight.

And you *will* lose weight if you are actually in a calorie deficit - everyone does, regardless of their medical issues. The trick is in finding out what a calorie deficit is *for you.* If you aren't losing weight, it's because you really aren't in a calorie deficit. And when you do, it's because you are.

It really isn't more complicated than that.

An endocrinologist explained to me, (I have hashimoto's and take thyroid hormone), that with hashimoto's (which includes hypothyroidism) that we can eat the "exact same thing" as someone else and we our bodies do not take it the same; the other person may lose weight while we struggle to lose any; because both our metabolism and our digestion is slowed.

I've read about people who do massive workouts, count calories and more, I've read about people who have to go down to 800 calories (unhealthy) to lose weight... There are other issues related to thyroid that can make things so tough.

Some people have thyroid chemical inbalances that cause it to be horribly painful to lose weight. It has to do with T4 and T3 and conversions... Some people don't convert the T4 into the T3 well, it means issues. I highly recommend Stop the Thyroid Madness website, book and group on Facebook called FTPO (For Thyroid Patients Only) as they can fully explain this. You can also research it.

Finding a good doctor who knows about these issues, the imbalances, T4 that doesn't convert (for some) and more is a really important helpful thing. Some of these sites (including Thyroid Sexy and Hashimoto's 411 on Facebook) also have some great help for suggestions for doctors who might be able to help.