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Flu shots? For them or against ?
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And this is why it's important for other people to get them (vaccinations in general). So that you can be protected because of herd immunity.
100%. I have been told by anti-vaxxers that my severe allergy to many vaccinations is a reason I should be against them. I pointed out in no uncertain terms that it makes me all the more FOR them because I can't protect myself and must rely on others to protect me.
I've had whooping cough 4 times in my life, 3 times as a child. All of those 3 childhood times I got it from kids whose parents decided not to vax. Asshats.8 -
I get them every year, no problems before this year though.
Had the shot given by a pharmacist at CVS. She gave it very high on my arm and it didn't hurt at all, which was unusual.
A couple of hours later, moving my arm at all was painful. That lasted a few weeks and it's very slowy getting better. It's been 4 months and i still have limited range of motion with that arm.
Consulted with Dr. Google, then my personal and sadly this isn't uncommon. The shot should have been given in the muscular part of my arm. Instead of going into the miacle it went into and injured my tendon.
Take away is to make sure the shot is given in the muscle! At the time I thought it was a strange place to give a shot but I was too polite to speak up ☹️.
Lesson learned!2 -
IN.
If I don't get them, I will get the flu for 2-4 weeks and be extremely dysfunctional.
With, 2-7 days at the most.3 -
Military makes you get them every year. Since joining almost five years ago, I've had the flu once. I think that's pretty good, considering I had the flu probably every year of my life until I was 20. I've gotten both dead virus and live nasal. Worth it if it even semi-reduces the chance of me vomiting myself for 36 hours straight into dehydration and delirium.4
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Against it for many reasons4
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So.. I'm in a play that was supposed to open tomorrow night (musical, actually). Unfortunately, two of our leads are down with influenza. Bona-fide influenza. We've been literally plagued by it running through the cast for the last two weeks, missing critical actors every single night. Opening night has been postponed until Saturday.
Those of us who were immunized have so far remained well. Coincidence? I doubt it.10 -
astrocosmiczoom wrote: »Worth it if it even semi-reduces the chance of me vomiting myself for 36 hours straight into dehydration and delirium.
That's not what influenza does, that would be a type of gastroenteritis and the flu shot will not protect against it.
It's a very common misconception though I would be all on board to never vomit again.0 -
So.. I'm in a play that was supposed to open tomorrow night (musical, actually). Unfortunately, two of our leads are down with influenza. Bona-fide influenza. We've been literally plagued by it running through the cast for the last two weeks, missing critical actors every single night. Opening night has been postponed until Saturday.
Those of us who were immunized have so far remained well. Coincidence? I doubt it.
I'm sure it was because you give your immune system a workout and eat lots of oranges, and you do this because big pharma made you a sheeple due to injecting you with a mind control chip. [/sarcasm]
But glad you're well, it's frustrating when you've been preparing yourself for something and it gets put off.2 -
That's not what influenza does, that would be a type of gastroenteritis and the flu shot will not protect against it.
It's a very common misconception though I would be all on board to never vomit again.
Although vomiting is an uncommon symptom in adults for influenza, it does happen. As confirmed by my doctor (and I have no reason to doubt his word). Those were the most unpleasant 2 weeks of my life...2 -
Only did when I worked at a hospital. I only feel compelled to get the shot if I'm around kids or older adults regularly. Otherwise I don't get sick enough to feel I have to...2
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This is my second winter getting one. The winter before, I spent in the hospital with my 2 month old. Whatever we had (all of the tests were negative, except the x-ray showing pneumonia), we (breastfed baby and mom) were pretty much quarantined up in Pediatrics.3
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My state (Minnesota) just reported its first pediatric flu death of the flu season. I don't know the circumstances of the case, but it's a useful reminder for everyone who thinks the flu is no big deal.8
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I get my flu shot every year. I've had the actual flu once and want to avoid getting it as much as I can. I also get immunized because I live with a person who is taking chemotherapy medication and can't get vaccinated because of that. Since I live with someone who can't get vaccines, I get vaccinated to prevent others from getting sick.6
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Every. Single. Year. Though it would be pretty irresponsible of me if I didn't since I conduct vaccine preventable disease surveillance for my state and I see what not vaccinating does to a person and can do to their community.13
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I haven't had one since I was 8, and I haven't had the flu either...if I get sick it's usually just a cold for a week once a year. I'm not saying I'm against them, though. I just know my immune system is strong.1
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I don't get the flu shot. I haven't gotten it in 12 or 13 years and don't plan on getting it anytime soon. The last time I remember having the actual flu and not just 24 hour bug is may be 15 years ago.2
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Highly susceptible to colds and flu, but used to feel wary of the shot. Have had the shot, though, 3 different years, not in a row, where I've been working downtown and travelling subways, etc. No colds or flu after during those years I was vaccinated. This year, in particular, so many people around me have been down with a horrible flu (none were vaccinated) including my husband who had never had so much as a cold before. Me? I didn't get sick this year.1
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If the OP is giving them I'll get them0
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janejellyroll wrote: »My state (Minnesota) just reported its first pediatric flu death of the flu season. I don't know the circumstances of the case, but it's a useful reminder for everyone who thinks the flu is no big deal.
An adult friend (in her 50s) died in December from influenza here in MN. I know they don't publicize adult numbers.. it's a shame, actually.
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All these saying they've never had the shot and never had the flu.....It's like saying you've never worn a seat belt and never been in a car accident.
You've been lucky. It's nothing to do with a strong immune system.14 -
thielke2015 wrote: »
Hi, thank you for this and if I had been given this information on the day then I might have actually proceeded. The papers look interesting so I have saved them and I was told there was no alternative for people who didn't take egg eg, veggies and vegans. Maybe a change for next winter! However, I am wondering about the motives behind them saying there was no other option... maybe financial?
Just to point out that the egg free vaccine is grown up in a mammalian secondary cell line so most definitely not vegan friendly and depending on your vegetarian ethics possibly also not suitable. This vaccine is substantially more expensive to make and therefore buy than the egg based one too so I would guess that is why they told you there is no alternative.0 -
I'm convinced that the flu shot is something I should get and everyone eligible should get.
But I didn't always feel this way. Years ago I went with my daughter to the mall shopping and we encountered a free flu shot station with almost no line up and we each got the shot. Both us of were horribly ill afterwards. Of course I heard that the flu shot didn't have any live viruses and our illness was not connected but I couldn't disassociate the two occurrences. A bit like the novel ice cream flavour served to chemotherapy patients.
I got quite sick this year and finally did some reading and see that I had norovirus that year, not even a virus represented in the vaccine. Doh!
I'll try to protect myself in the future and maybe more importantly protect the people in my life with immune systems weaker and than my own.3 -
All for flu vaccine and have it every year, mainly because I'm asthmatic but also as it is a requirement for the work that I do.
Want to clear up a few misconceptions that have floated past reading the post:
Yes the live attenuated could get reactive again but is highly unlikely as one of its safety requirements is genetic stability testing and the virus is passaged well beyond what ends up in the drug product.(this is an EU requirement not a US requirement)
Big pharma does not make big money on vaccines, in fact flumist is currently running at a loss as it is not recommended for use in the US and when it was still sold in the US at best breaks even.
The 19% percent effectiveness in 2014 was due to a mismatch of the H3N2 the most prevalent strain that season.
The WHO who makes the recommendation each year bases this on cycling of the most prevalent strains over the last year across the globe, it's a very educated guess but not 100%
The jab only contains the viral proteins that cause the immune response so the reaction you get is either from your own immune system or one of the additives/ adjuvants/preservatives in the vaccine.
In the UK mercury based preservatives haven't been present in vaccines for the large part of a decade.10 -
I never get the flu shot and I've had the flu once in the last.... 15+ years. If I worked in health care or around people who were at risk, I would get one for their protection.0
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janejellyroll wrote: »
If you are in the US, many pharmacies offer them on a walk-in basis. It's easy to fit in with other errands.
I'm not in the US. Maybe that's why I never gave serious thought to it. I regard flu as just a more serious version of the common cold. But maybe I'm wrong.1 -
Very impressed by some of the clearly explained, scientific reasons to get vaccinated given in this thread. I expected to see a lot more woo thrown around.
Definitely pro-flu shots.8 -
I'm not in the US. Maybe that's why I never gave serious thought to it. I regard flu as just a more serious version of the common cold. But maybe I'm wrong.
If you read through the thread you will see explanations of how you are wrong.
ETA - and not sure how being in the US or not changes that - you are wrong on this ,wherever you live.
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paperpudding wrote: »
If you read through the thread you will see explanations of how you are wrong.
ETA - and not sure how being in the US or not changes that - you are wrong on this ,wherever you live.
Also I don't get the people saying,I've never had the shot and I've never had the flu.3 -
comptonelizabeth wrote: »
Also I don't get the people saying,I've never had the shot and I've never had the flu.
Agreed. That is the same as one saying I always get a flu shot and I have never had the flu.1 -
I always get the flu shot and I've never had cancer or autism. Therefore flu shots are good for more than the flu.
On the other hand the last time I ate spaghetti I ended up spilling wine all over myself so the garlic in the tomato sauce must cause temporary muscular deficiencies.
If you want to hear any other anecdotal and arbitrary correlations then let me know - I'm here all week!13
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