March 2017 Running Challenge
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@MobyCarp @Stoshew71 @BeeerRunner @lporter229
The discussion on marathon training is SO helpful! Cheers to @MNLittleFinn for kicking it off.
I'm building miles, and aiming to increase from January's 27 km to a 30 km later this month, so should I stop running Saturday's 5K parkrun at speed?
ETA: parkrun is the only speed work I usually do. I've run 351 km (218 miles) so far this year.
A fast 5K once a week isn't going to hurt you. Running all your runs fast and none of them easy will.
Awesome! Very happy to hear you say that, @MobyCarp
@ariceroni @ROBOTFOOD Welcome back!!2 -
03/03 - +4.4miles - Increased pace intervals
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March goal: stay healthy and continue training for Grandma's.
Nominal mileage goal: 175
3/1- 6.15
3/2- REST
3/3- No RUN. Stopped before I really got going
Total: 6.15
Today's notes: After more than a week of worrying about my left shin, it's my right knee that's the real issue. I started out on my 3 miler and had to stop about 100 yards in. My knee hurt bad enough that I knew that running anymore would be a bad idea. Good thing I have that DR appointment today, looks like I'll be bringing that up too.
There goes my monthly mileage goal, I have a feeling I'll be taking a somewhat extended layoff from running starting today. I just hope I'll still be able to do the marathon in 3.5 months, but only time will tell.
Feeling pretty down right now.0 -
@MNLittleFinn Sorry to hear about your knee. Rest it up, you've still got plenty of time until your race.
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Today was another one of those long run days; shouldn't be too long now before I switch up to the 20-mile course for my Friday run - maybe another couple of weeks or so.
01 - 13.30
02 - 9.87
03 - 18.13
Total: 41.30 / 2002 -
@MNLittleFinn Good call stopping your run instead of running through the pain. I hope you doctor's appointment goes well and all you need is a few days off
3/1: 2 miles run/walk
3/2: rest
3/3: 3.1 miles
Total: 5.1/60 miles
Holy ice! I didn't realize how slippery the roads were otherwise I would have chosen to go to the gym or run later. Took it very slow and had to either run in the middle of the road where there was lesser ice or through the snow on the grass in order to stay upright. Still has a few close calls. Ended up with 3.1 miles in 34:10. Running intervals of 0.75/0.25/0.75/0.25/0.75 miles with either 30 or 60 seconds walking between running intervals. Running intervals were all between 10 and 10:30 min/mile (got faster as the run progressed and I could tell were the icy spots were better).1 -
RespectTheKitty wrote: »3/1 6.3r + 4.2w
3/2 7.25r + 4.5w + 1000m row
Total so far: 13.55r + 8.7w = 22.25 miles
In trying to come up with a way to work different muscle groups, I decided to give rowing a go. I think I will be incorporating this into my workouts a couple times a week.
My left big toe hurts, the same one that was having toenail issues before. I think I may have an ingrown. I have never experienced an ingrown toenail before, though, so I'm not sure what to do about it. Are ingrown toenails a thing for runners, or am I just special?
Here's my two cents, lol. I never had true ingrown toenails but have dealt with many an infected toenail. Primarily during the many years that I danced. Most often it would be on a big toe, where one corner would become pink, puffy, and painful and usually end up quite pus-filled. I'm sure it was caused by a combination of tight, restrictive shoes (pointe /ballet/jazz/etc shoe) and probably a toenail that wasn't cut quite right in the corner, or was just digging in. I have had a couple while running as well.
My favorite cure is a wet bandage. Boil some water, and dissolve a bunch of epsom salts in it. Cut a length of non-adhesive guaze from a roll and saturate in the hot epsom water solution. Wrap toe in bandage and cover toe with a plastic sandwich baggie. Find a way to secure baggie around toe (scrunch up and twist the excess baggie and secure with string or a rubber band, making sure not to cut off circulation, lol). Wear overnight while you sleep and remove in the morning. My dad learned this technique many many years ago, when he had actual legit ingrown toenails, from his doctor, before he ended up having surgery for it.4 -
@garygse @OSUbuckeye906 Thanks guys. I started my training plan 2 weeks early, so "hopefully" That gives me enough cushion to take time off and train up enough to run/walk the thing.
There's another MFPer running it who was going to be taking it easy....as if you can take a marathon easy....so if I can recover in time to do something, that's always a possibility (7 hour time limit makes it a doable, if VERY long walk....I've walked that far in a day before)
All that said, I'm going to be listening to EVERYTHING my Dr. Says, even if it kills my chances at my June marathon, health has to come first. I have a fall marathon on the schedule as well so, worst case, I should be able to get in a full this calendar year.4 -
Everyone who runs with their doggies, especially trail runs need one of these!
http://www.autoblog.com/2017/03/01/nissan-x-trail-4dog-concept-dog-lovers-car/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000016
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3/1 6
3/2 4.5 + 6 x strength circuits
3/3 *on tap for tonight* 10 miles
10.5 (tentatively 20.5 assuming 10 tonight)/175
Was loving reading all the previous comments about pacing/bonking (not the British kind! lol) during the marathon. It brought back memories of my first marathon, Baltimore in 2000, a race I had no idea what I was getting into. Ran 1 long run of maybe 19 miles in training. Made every single rookie mistake you can make in that race: ate "weird" food the morning of (what was I thinking by eating peanut butter? A food that doesn't agree with me on normal days...), wore a cotton shirt and old soccer shorts (hello, chafe), paced crazy and PRed the first 1/2 of the race, legitimately text-book bonked in the second half. Was so out of it I was even pouring gatorade over my head and drinking water. Took me forever to figure out why my hands, face and hair were so sticky at the finish. It took me 2 years to get up the courage to try that distance again, with a training plan!
Ahhh, the memories!7 -
I'm going to shoot for 65 miles this month!3
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@OSUbuckeye906 I hate that risk with ice. The only good thing I experience with ice is that there are occasions where it melts, puddles, then refreezes again later. Dodging small puddles of ice that had formed in low areas of pavement probably gives some benefit to trail running (dodging rocks, tree roots, etc.).
@lwilfert Strong first post in the forums. Welcome!1 -
OSUbuckeye906 wrote: »Also wanted to ask if anybody has recommendations for over the counter orthotics for extra support for over pronation? My PT mentioned it was something I could give a try if I wanted to, but it didn't sound like something that was vital. She said something inexpensive that I could get at a drug store or Walmart would probably work, but I stood at the store staring at them for 20 minutes yesterday before leaving with nothing. Anybody use some that they like?
If you want a lot of support and less cushioning, then Superfeet (online or at most running stores..not typically in drugstores).0 -
@MobyCarp @Stoshew71 @BeeerRunner @lporter229
The discussion on marathon training is SO helpful! Cheers to @MNLittleFinn for kicking it off.
I'm building miles, and aiming to increase from January's 27 km to a 30 km later this month, so should I stop running Saturday's 5K parkrun at speed?
ETA: parkrun is the only speed work I usually do. I've run 351 km (218 miles) so far this year.
I have a feeling that you find the park runs fun. Even though it's not ideal to do a speed event the day before your long run, having fun with running is important too.
Maybe the day before you do your distance PR you won't run a park run. That or pick another day to do your long run if you can manage to fit it in your schedule. or tack on miles after your park run to make that your long run. Just different options.2 -
Activity induced hypoglycemia.
Awesome. sorry for picking on you. I saw an opening to talk about bonking and just "ran" with it. *ba da dum*
Eh hem... Nerd.
Yeah, what @MNLittleFinn said, takes one....
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Was loving reading all the previous comments about pacing/bonking (not the British kind! lol) during the marathon. It brought back memories of my first marathon, Baltimore in 2000, a race I had no idea what I was getting into. Ran 1 long run of maybe 19 miles in training. Made every single rookie mistake you can make in that race: ate "weird" food the morning of (what was I thinking by eating peanut butter? A food that doesn't agree with me on normal days...), wore a cotton shirt and old soccer shorts (hello, chafe), paced crazy and PRed the first 1/2 of the race, legitimately text-book bonked in the second half. Was so out of it I was even pouring gatorade over my head and drinking water. Took me forever to figure out why my hands, face and hair were so sticky at the finish. It took me 2 years to get up the courage to try that distance again, with a training plan!
Ahhh, the memories!
Oh I am so sorry. I was laughing the whole time I was reading your summary. Especially the pouring Gatorade and drinking water part. We all start somewhere.
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@MNLittleFinn - Ouch, that's bad news. As of right now, your perspective needs to change. Total miles no longer matter. Speed work is off the table. Improvement in your injury is the prime focus.
Recovery from injury is much more challenging mentally than training hard is. There are no cheering crowds for being able to run a half mile, or for a new long distance of 2 miles. It's very, very hard to limit yourself to what doesn't make things worse.
Here's hoping that what you have isn't serious, and you can come back in a week or so; but if it is, injury recovery requires a bit different attitude than just following a training plan.1 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »RespectTheKitty wrote: »3/1 6.3r + 4.2w
3/2 7.25r + 4.5w + 1000m row
Total so far: 13.55r + 8.7w = 22.25 miles
In trying to come up with a way to work different muscle groups, I decided to give rowing a go. I think I will be incorporating this into my workouts a couple times a week.
My left big toe hurts, the same one that was having toenail issues before. I think I may have an ingrown. I have never experienced an ingrown toenail before, though, so I'm not sure what to do about it. Are ingrown toenails a thing for runners, or am I just special?
Here's my two cents, lol. I never had true ingrown toenails but have dealt with many an infected toenail. Primarily during the many years that I danced. Most often it would be on a big toe, where one corner would become pink, puffy, and painful and usually end up quite pus-filled. I'm sure it was caused by a combination of tight, restrictive shoes (pointe /ballet/jazz/etc shoe) and probably a toenail that wasn't cut quite right in the corner, or was just digging in. I have had a couple while running as well.
My favorite cure is a wet bandage. Boil some water, and dissolve a bunch of epsom salts in it. Cut a length of non-adhesive guaze from a roll and saturate in the hot epsom water solution. Wrap toe in bandage and cover toe with a plastic sandwich baggie. Find a way to secure baggie around toe (scrunch up and twist the excess baggie and secure with string or a rubber band, making sure not to cut off circulation, lol). Wear overnight while you sleep and remove in the morning. My dad learned this technique many many years ago, when he had actual legit ingrown toenails, from his doctor, before he ended up having surgery for it.
This sounds like what I am experiencing. The corner of my toenail is what hurts, and it's little inflamed. I shall try this treatment. Thank you!
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RespectTheKitty wrote: »KatieJane83 wrote: »RespectTheKitty wrote: »3/1 6.3r + 4.2w
3/2 7.25r + 4.5w + 1000m row
Total so far: 13.55r + 8.7w = 22.25 miles
In trying to come up with a way to work different muscle groups, I decided to give rowing a go. I think I will be incorporating this into my workouts a couple times a week.
My left big toe hurts, the same one that was having toenail issues before. I think I may have an ingrown. I have never experienced an ingrown toenail before, though, so I'm not sure what to do about it. Are ingrown toenails a thing for runners, or am I just special?
Here's my two cents, lol. I never had true ingrown toenails but have dealt with many an infected toenail. Primarily during the many years that I danced. Most often it would be on a big toe, where one corner would become pink, puffy, and painful and usually end up quite pus-filled. I'm sure it was caused by a combination of tight, restrictive shoes (pointe /ballet/jazz/etc shoe) and probably a toenail that wasn't cut quite right in the corner, or was just digging in. I have had a couple while running as well.
My favorite cure is a wet bandage. Boil some water, and dissolve a bunch of epsom salts in it. Cut a length of non-adhesive guaze from a roll and saturate in the hot epsom water solution. Wrap toe in bandage and cover toe with a plastic sandwich baggie. Find a way to secure baggie around toe (scrunch up and twist the excess baggie and secure with string or a rubber band, making sure not to cut off circulation, lol). Wear overnight while you sleep and remove in the morning. My dad learned this technique many many years ago, when he had actual legit ingrown toenails, from his doctor, before he ended up having surgery for it.
This sounds like what I am experiencing. The corner of my toenail is what hurts, and it's little inflamed. I shall try this treatment. Thank you!
Oh good, I'm happy my advice seems like it might be applicable. When I get them I also spend some time with a bandaid and neosporin on it during the day, and also give it some time to breath in the open air, lol. Hopefully a few days of treatment and it'll clear right up.1 -
@MNLittleFinn - Ouch, that's bad news. As of right now, your perspective needs to change. Total miles no longer matter. Speed work is off the table. Improvement in your injury is the prime focus.
Recovery from injury is much more challenging mentally than training hard is. There are no cheering crowds for being able to run a half mile, or for a new long distance of 2 miles. It's very, very hard to limit yourself to what doesn't make things worse.
Here's hoping that what you have isn't serious, and you can come back in a week or so; but if it is, injury recovery requires a bit different attitude than just following a training plan.
yeah, total miles are out the door. I'm still in the first stage of the grief cycle....LOL....I'm actually OK with not running....that's the problem, I'm more afraid of when I'm able to start up again, it took a lot of work to mentally get myself into running, and I don't want to turn back into the lazy person I was....
.....I know it's all just speculation right now, Dr. appointment is in an hour and a half, hopefully I'll know more after that.1 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »@MNLittleFinn - Ouch, that's bad news. As of right now, your perspective needs to change. Total miles no longer matter. Speed work is off the table. Improvement in your injury is the prime focus.
Recovery from injury is much more challenging mentally than training hard is. There are no cheering crowds for being able to run a half mile, or for a new long distance of 2 miles. It's very, very hard to limit yourself to what doesn't make things worse.
Here's hoping that what you have isn't serious, and you can come back in a week or so; but if it is, injury recovery requires a bit different attitude than just following a training plan.
yeah, total miles are out the door. I'm still in the first stage of the grief cycle....LOL....I'm actually OK with not running....that's the problem, I'm more afraid of when I'm able to start up again, it took a lot of work to mentally get myself into running, and I don't want to turn back into the lazy person I was....
.....I know it's all just speculation right now, Dr. appointment is in an hour and a half, hopefully I'll know more after that.
You're hooked. You'll be back.1 -
@MNLittleFinn - Sorry to hear that! Welcome to the (unfortunate) club. I hope your doc can give you some answers that don't require too long of a lay-off.
@ko4q- Great first marathon story! Well not great for you, but you know what I mean. gled to hear that didn't deter you from marathons for good though!
@OSUbuckeye906 - I have used both Superfeet and Powerstep orthotic inserts. I prefer the Powerstep because they offer a bit more rigid arch support. they were recommended to me by a foot specialist following a stress fracture.
So, I just got in from my first appointment with the PT. Diagnosis is hamstring tendonitis, so no amputation needed. He spent two hours with me evaluating, stretching and then doing dry needle therapy. He was completely blown away by my truly pathetic range of motion/utter lack of flexibility. I think he used the word abysmal to describe my inward rotation of my hip. At any rate, he wants me to take an additional 4 days off of running and keep cross training. He thinks getting me back up to par for Boston should not be a problem and hasn't even ruled out the half marathon I had planned for next weekend (although not racing it). So all in all, I am feeling pretty positive. Two visits a week for the next 4 weeks should do it.
I have been riding my bike on the trainer in my basement for cross training. However, I don't think this is gonna cut it as a substitute for my long run. First of all, staying on it for longer than 30 minutes takes every ounce of will power that I have. Secondly, it really doesn't have the stability of a true stationary bike that would allow me to push my heart rate up like I would like. I mean, if I'm going low impact, I might as well try and get some of the cardio benefits of speed work, right? I am considering trying a class at Cycle Bar. There is a new one near my house and I heard they don't require a membership, it's pay per class ($10). I am assuming it's similar to spinning. Has anyone done it before?2 -
Goal - 35miles of walk/run intervals
Mar 1 - 3.1
I'm hoping no one's going to be bothered by my nebulous "walk/run". I'd LOVE to pick a running goal and stick with it but I have a couple physical issues hanging around still. This way it can be more about commitment and less about ability. Looking forward to being inspired by everyone's posts.4 -
goldthistime wrote: »Goal - 35miles of walk/run intervals
Mar 1 - 3.1
I'm hoping no one's going to be bothered by my nebulous "walk/run". I'd LOVE to pick a running goal and stick with it but I have a couple physical issues hanging around still. This way it can be more about commitment and less about ability. Looking forward to being inspired by everyone's posts.
Of course no one will be bothered by this! Welcome! This group is super open, supportive, friendly, knowledgeable, funny, and helpful. I'm quoting this bit from the thread intro just for emphasis, lol:
"Anyone can join in. New & Old. And if you found this thread late, you can join in at any time.
We have members that are total beginners all the way to Boston Qualifiers and beyond. We are a friendly and encouraging bunch.
Here are the details from last month that applies here again.
Anybody want to join me for a running challenge? Set a goal here and mark it every day here. OPTIONAL: You can post your progress by creating a ticker at http://www.tickerfactory.com (If creating one seems difficult, then don't let that stop you. Just type in your daily miles here.)
You can run, walk, or do treadmill. Just be consistent. I am setting a goal for 230 miles. Don't let my high (or low) goal intimidate you. Some can do 25, 50; whatever you like. We can help motivate each other. What do you say? If you are new to running, set a low goal. (You can also log your miles in km's if you choose.) Also, if you rather log your process by time rather than distance, you are free to do that as well."3 -
Hi fellow runners
Aim: 120k
3/2: 1.5k -warmup for strenght training-
3/3: 11.6k -5.49 min/km-
All went well, inner thigh a bit soar but manage not to press it to an injury thank god! Lots of races planned for this period..
SUM: 13.1/120k
Races:
3/12: 13k Kavala Trail
3/19: 10k Rapsani Trail
4/2: Alexander the Great 10k
Stay free of injuries!3 -
goldthistime wrote: »Goal - 35miles of walk/run intervals
Mar 1 - 3.1
I'm hoping no one's going to be bothered by my nebulous "walk/run". I'd LOVE to pick a running goal and stick with it but I have a couple physical issues hanging around still. This way it can be more about commitment and less about ability. Looking forward to being inspired by everyone's posts.
Not bothered at all, in fact, walk/run is how I started out in this group last May (can't believe I'm only a couple months away from a full year in the Running Challenge group!). I still count my walking miles towards my goals.1 -
5.3 miles on treadmill today. I'm a little pissed, my Jaybird X2 headphones won't hold a charge more than 10 minutes and they are only 5 months old! Charged all night, powered on at home, turned them off. drove to gym 5 mins away, won't power on. Grrr...
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WK: 2/27/17 - 3/5/17
M - 8 m. TM - 9:30 pace.
T - 10.4 m. TM - 8:50 pace.
W - 3 m. TM - 10:00 pace.
T - 7.3 m. TM - 8:38 pace.
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Hello all, I'm new here. I'm glad I've found this thread/challenge as a bit of support (and extra accountability) will go a long way...
I've committed to running 110 miles over Lent (instead of giving up something as I've recently started following a LCHF diet). I have only just started running longer than 5km at a time so this is going to take some effort and a significant increase in my normal activity!
From some quick calculations I think that my mileage goal for March is:
73 miles
Completed:
2nd March - 6.14 miles (9.88 miles).
Next Up (if I put it here I've got to do it...)
5k Park Run - 9am Saturday 4th March (aiming for a new Personal Best).
5k solo run - sometime in the evening Saturday 4th March (get some more distance in and run some hills).
Distance Left:
66.86 miles
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Little late to join in but beginning my first run ever tomorrow! Always been an indoors workout person. But you guys are super inspiring so ready to crank up the music and run those miles!
Would love some tips if anyone has any to share
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Was loving reading all the previous comments about pacing/bonking (not the British kind! lol) during the marathon. It brought back memories of my first marathon, Baltimore in 2000, a race I had no idea what I was getting into. Ran 1 long run of maybe 19 miles in training. Made every single rookie mistake you can make in that race: ate "weird" food the morning of (what was I thinking by eating peanut butter? A food that doesn't agree with me on normal days...), wore a cotton shirt and old soccer shorts (hello, chafe), paced crazy and PRed the first 1/2 of the race, legitimately text-book bonked in the second half. Was so out of it I was even pouring gatorade over my head and drinking water. Took me forever to figure out why my hands, face and hair were so sticky at the finish. It took me 2 years to get up the courage to try that distance again, with a training plan!
Ahhh, the memories!
Sorry to laugh at your expense but your story is just too funny.0
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