Very frustrated!
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skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »no, if u eat less calories with dirty food, you only get a smaller fat version of the bigger size of yourself....
The calories don't matter to what your body composition is. If you want a more fit version, you need to exercise. But the "dirty" food (whatever the hell dirty means) is irrelevant.
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@amyepdx so how long did it take you to lose the 90 plus pounds?
I lost the first 50 in 7 months and I'm now in month 26 so you can see how losses slow down as you have less to lose. That also takes into account vacations, business trips, holidays and other occasions where tracking isn't a priority and extra calories are consumed because that's how life is. That doesn't mean I went crazy eating those times (mostly) I definitely eat less and think about what I'm doing even if not tracking that day.
I started with 118 lbs to lose and I always was set at 1 lb a week even though I lost more early on due to exercise (although I still ate back most exercise cals) and because I had more calories to play with. I just reset to 1/2 lb a week to be able to be more realistic and accurate since that was what I was losing anyway.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I started out thinking it may take 3 years to get to my ultimate goal, I don't know how successful I'd have been. So my advice is to not think about the time frame because the time will pass anyway. Instead, work on creating new habits each day and you'll gain more confidence and actually enjoy the process.
Also, do use a weight trending app like trendweight to gauge your success. As long as that line is moving downward, no matter how slowly, you are winning!5 -
Ma'am u should've not cut all ur calories from the beginning , that is why u hit ur weight loss plateau very quickly, u need to bring ur calories back up and then cut down slowly slowly and then later on introduce cardio also when u hit like 1500 calories. I don't think u should go 1200 on ur calories cuz that's too low, just add cardio and burn 300 calories per session.
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kpeterson539 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »kpeterson539 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »
eat clean 90% of the time and for example 2 weeks of clean eating and 1 cheat meal... both will help to lose weightskinnyfatty1983 wrote: »StaciMarie1974 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results
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yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »fitoverfortymom wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »StaciMarie1974 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results
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yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
Nope. Dropped 45 lbs in 150 days eating mostly healthy but not clean by any stretch. Plenty of Gardein, veggie dogs, Greek yogurt, once a week fried food and a cookie... and more than a litre of Diet pop every day.
different bodies react different to unhealthy food... i eat clean 90% and eat cheat meal to speed up metabolism.. but the key to result is still to eat clean consistently
Nope. You're not actually speeding up your metabolism. That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works. But bless your heart for having and sharing your success.
cheat meal helped me dropped a few more pounds... it really works
Sooo, which is it? Eat clean or else you're doomed, or eat dirty to speed up your metabolism? I'm confused. Guess I'll just keep eating whatever fits my goals and losing my 1 lb per week and be happy not hangry.
No. All you need to do is eat less calories than your body expends. CICO. That's all. Nothing more.
no, if u eat less calories with dirty food, you only get a smaller fat version of the bigger size of yourself....
No. One of the biggest problems is LABELING food as good/clean or bad/dirty. There is no such thing or, I should say, a decent definition of those labels. I have lost 60 pounds eating what I wanted, just not as MUCH as I wanted.
I am not a special snowflake.
well, it depend on what ur goals are... i guess mine is different than yours... i would be amazed if u can transform with lower calories and dirty food...0 -
lol @skinnyfatty1983, hit the success stories board and you'll see lots of people who do just that!
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Why is it when I have 58 pounds to loose, and I've stayed under my 1200 calorie requirement for over two weeks now and have only lost one pound? I've not had any bread, fake sugar (only berries or strawberries) very low carbs, etc....al the things I'm suppose to be doing. Speed walking four times a week each time losing 300 calories per walk. I'm 58 year old woman that's extremely frustrated! Please help! I so my other friends using programs like a plan from Thyroid Connection and they are able to drop 10 pounds a month easily. But not me. I'm eating all non processed foods, too!
One pound in two weeks? You don't have near enough data to have any idea if your plan is giving you results or not, but based on what I've read so far, you have no reason to think it's not.
First, you have one data point. One. Second, there are several factors that go into what you see on the scale: fat loss - what you want, and fluid loss (or gain, or really...change) - what you should not care about because it will always vary. Fat loss and fluid retention change at different rates and at different magnitudes. Generally when you are talking about losing 2 pounds per week, your really talking about losing 2 pounds of fat (what you care about). The fact is that fluid retention can vary by 2 or 3 times that much in a single day. I've weighed up to 4 pounds less in the afternoon than I have in the same morning - after eating 75% of my calories for the day. Why? I may have been holding fluid in the morning, and may be dehydrated (somewhat) after exercise in the afternoon.
If you lost 2 pounds of fat for the week and you weighed yourself once, how would you know?
I'll wait....
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Yes, it's a trick question. You can't know. That's why you need more data and more time. You could step on the scale at the next weigh-in a week later and be 6 pounds lighter. Would that be cause for celebration? Do you think you lost 6 pounds of fat? Probably not even possible, but you can be 6 pounds lighter at that time. You can get fooled in both directions by the scale.
The tools here aren't perfect because they are estimates, but if you are weighing and measuring carefully, you can get pretty close. Time is your friend. You need that time to create the healthy process anyway. The results will be in your trend, not likely week to week.4 -
ashliedelgado wrote: »lol @skinnyfatty1983, hit the success stories board and you'll see lots of people who do just that!
they should write a book to transform with dirty foods...amazing wow0 -
skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results
NO. Stop it.3 -
skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ashliedelgado wrote: »lol @skinnyfatty1983, hit the success stories board and you'll see lots of people who do just that!
they should write a book to transform with dirty foods...amazing wow
You mean like this guy?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10348650/cico-still-skeptical-come-inside-for-a-meticulous-log-that-proves-it/p1
You really are misinformed. It doesn't matter how 'clean' you eat. If you eat over your maintenance calories, you will gain fat.7 -
skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »
well, it depend on what ur goals are... i guess mine is different than yours... i would be amazed if u can transform with lower calories and dirty food...
Still early on my own journey, but here's a question for you.
If I expend 3100 calories today, and I've eaten 2100 in "clean" foods, I'm on track right?
If I expend 3100 calories tomorrow, and I've eaten 1900 in "clean" foods and have a Coke at the end of the of day, am I somehow off track?
If so, how would I know? If not, why not? It's admittedly early for me, but my 2 pounds/week is running along just fine at my 1000 calorie or so deficit, my measurements are changing, my exercise is improving, and every once in a while I'll have one can of Coca Cola (my longtime nemesis). I put sugar on strawberries that I mix into my plain yogurt (because I need the sweet bump). I cook my egg whites in butter. I put mayonnaise on my sandwiches when I eat cheap wheat bread.
I'm losing weight, I'm stronger...am I off track?
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skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »StaciMarie1974 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results
No.
yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
Stop. Weight loss isn't about what you eat/don't eat. Weight loss is all about calories. Science. I've eaten chocolate, chips, take out, and have lost weight and continue to lose weight.2 -
Silentpadna wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »
well, it depend on what ur goals are... i guess mine is different than yours... i would be amazed if u can transform with lower calories and dirty food...
Still early on my own journey, but here's a question for you.
If I expend 3100 calories today, and I've eaten 2100 in "clean" foods, I'm on track right?
If I expend 3100 calories tomorrow, and I've eaten 1900 in "clean" foods and have a Coke at the end of the of day, am I somehow off track?
If so, how would I know? If not, why not? It's admittedly early for me, but my 2 pounds/week is running along just fine at my 1000 calorie or so deficit, my measurements are changing, my exercise is improving, and every once in a while I'll have one can of Coca Cola (my longtime nemesis). I put sugar on strawberries that I mix into my plain yogurt (because I need the sweet bump). I cook my egg whites in butter. I put mayonnaise on my sandwiches when I eat cheap wheat bread.
I'm losing weight, I'm stronger...am I off track?
the coke can cause a delay in transformation but you are not off track since you still eat healthy clean food most of the time0 -
skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »
well, it depend on what ur goals are... i guess mine is different than yours... i would be amazed if u can transform with lower calories and dirty food...
Still early on my own journey, but here's a question for you.
If I expend 3100 calories today, and I've eaten 2100 in "clean" foods, I'm on track right?
If I expend 3100 calories tomorrow, and I've eaten 1900 in "clean" foods and have a Coke at the end of the of day, am I somehow off track?
If so, how would I know? If not, why not? It's admittedly early for me, but my 2 pounds/week is running along just fine at my 1000 calorie or so deficit, my measurements are changing, my exercise is improving, and every once in a while I'll have one can of Coca Cola (my longtime nemesis). I put sugar on strawberries that I mix into my plain yogurt (because I need the sweet bump). I cook my egg whites in butter. I put mayonnaise on my sandwiches when I eat cheap wheat bread.
I'm losing weight, I'm stronger...am I off track?
the coke can cause a delay in transformation but you are not off track since you still eat healthy clean food most of the time
Can you explain by what mechanism a soda can cause a weight stall if one is eating in a deficit? Is it just soda, or does that go for all fizzy drinks?1 -
cerise_noir wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »StaciMarie1974 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results
No.
yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
Stop. Weight loss isn't about what you eat/don't eat. Weight loss is all about calories. Science. I've eaten chocolate, chips, take out, and have lost weight and continue to lose weight.
ok sorry i wont stop you from eating your chocolate cookies. It is quite amazing. were u able to build muscle from all the junk foods??1 -
skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »
well, it depend on what ur goals are... i guess mine is different than yours... i would be amazed if u can transform with lower calories and dirty food...
Still early on my own journey, but here's a question for you.
If I expend 3100 calories today, and I've eaten 2100 in "clean" foods, I'm on track right?
If I expend 3100 calories tomorrow, and I've eaten 1900 in "clean" foods and have a Coke at the end of the of day, am I somehow off track?
If so, how would I know? If not, why not? It's admittedly early for me, but my 2 pounds/week is running along just fine at my 1000 calorie or so deficit, my measurements are changing, my exercise is improving, and every once in a while I'll have one can of Coca Cola (my longtime nemesis). I put sugar on strawberries that I mix into my plain yogurt (because I need the sweet bump). I cook my egg whites in butter. I put mayonnaise on my sandwiches when I eat cheap wheat bread.
I'm losing weight, I'm stronger...am I off track?
the coke can cause a delay in transformation but you are not off track since you still eat healthy clean food most of the time
Please do not give erroneous advice. As long as a person is in a deficit, weight will be lost.
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skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »StaciMarie1974 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results
No.
yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
Stop. Weight loss isn't about what you eat/don't eat. Weight loss is all about calories. Science. I've eaten chocolate, chips, take out, and have lost weight and continue to lose weight.
ok sorry i wont stop you from eating your chocolate cookies. It is quite amazing. were u able to build muscle from all the junk foods??
Building muscle comes from eating in surplus, so I bet chocolate cookies can help do that, too.11 -
skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »StaciMarie1974 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results
No.
yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
Stop. Weight loss isn't about what you eat/don't eat. Weight loss is all about calories. Science. I've eaten chocolate, chips, take out, and have lost weight and continue to lose weight.
ok sorry i wont stop you from eating your chocolate cookies. It is quite amazing. were u able to build muscle from all the junk foods??
I guess you didn't see my post with this link:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10348650/cico-still-skeptical-come-inside-for-a-meticulous-log-that-proves-it/p1
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skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ashliedelgado wrote: »lol @skinnyfatty1983, hit the success stories board and you'll see lots of people who do just that!
they should write a book to transform with dirty foods...amazing wow
You mean like this guy?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10348650/cico-still-skeptical-come-inside-for-a-meticulous-log-that-proves-it/p1
You really are misinformed. It doesn't matter how 'clean' you eat. If you eat over your maintenance calories, you will gain fat.
Clean eating is not important ... ok understood. I just dont understand how junk food can build muscles and is better than clean food??? sorry0 -
i know it sucks to hear, but KEEP at it. two weeks is NOTHING in terms of plateau world. Plus, you did lose weight! I hear you're only at a plateau if you lose NOTHING for 3 months! So, keep it the good work OP!
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skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »StaciMarie1974 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results
No.
yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
Stop. Weight loss isn't about what you eat/don't eat. Weight loss is all about calories. Science. I've eaten chocolate, chips, take out, and have lost weight and continue to lose weight.
ok sorry i wont stop you from eating your chocolate cookies. It is quite amazing. were u able to build muscle from all the junk foods??
I guess you didn't see my post with this link:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10348650/cico-still-skeptical-come-inside-for-a-meticulous-log-that-proves-it/p1
Sorry i did see the post but I did not have to jog this much and i can lose weight with clean food just by walking...0 -
skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ashliedelgado wrote: »lol @skinnyfatty1983, hit the success stories board and you'll see lots of people who do just that!
they should write a book to transform with dirty foods...amazing wow
You mean like this guy?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10348650/cico-still-skeptical-come-inside-for-a-meticulous-log-that-proves-it/p1
You really are misinformed. It doesn't matter how 'clean' you eat. If you eat over your maintenance calories, you will gain fat.
Clean eating is not important ... ok understood. I just dont understand how junk food can build muscles and is better than clean food??? sorry
Building muscle is achieved by eating in a surplus while lifting on a progressive program.
Eating in a surplus can be chicken breast, broccoli, rice, pizza, burgers or chocolate.....as long as it's a surplus.
Please stop with the "junk" or "clean" food. It's just food.
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kpeterson539 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ashliedelgado wrote: »lol @skinnyfatty1983, hit the success stories board and you'll see lots of people who do just that!
they should write a book to transform with dirty foods...amazing wow
You mean like this guy?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10348650/cico-still-skeptical-come-inside-for-a-meticulous-log-that-proves-it/p1
You really are misinformed. It doesn't matter how 'clean' you eat. If you eat over your maintenance calories, you will gain fat.
Clean eating is not important ... ok understood. I just dont understand how junk food can build muscles and is better than clean food??? sorry
Building muscle is achieved by eating in a surplus while lifting on a progressive program.
Eating in a surplus can be chicken breast, broccoli, rice, pizza, burgers or chocolate.....as long as it's a surplus.
Please stop with the "junk" or "clean" food. It's just food.
it is a hot debate. like dirty bulking or clean bulking0 -
Well, obviously we will have disagreement here about whether food is food. I am one that believes the closer a food is to its' natural form the better it is for you. I get the other viewpoint also ... in that "a calorie is a calorie" ... I USED to believe that also. Not anymore. Lays potato chips have a different effect on the hormones in your body than an equivalent caloric intake of greens with an olive oil/balsamic vinaigrette. They do ... really. We have been mislead over the HEALTH effects of added sugar/processed foods since the 1970's and the low-fat craze. It has led to skyrocketing obesity, metabolic syndrome, and many "fat" skinny people.
(I know, I know .... blast away. But you will notice the subject is being broached again by nutritionists, scientists, researchers, and doctors that have been confounded by the results of the low-fat, free-for-all "added sugar" in our diets and our continuing societal health decline.)
And I do agree that if you eat more calories, even if they ARE cleaner foods, you WILL gain weight. But those pesky hormones ... if you can eat as a new way of life instead of being ruled by cravings and thoughts of food ... an obsession with food ... well, that's what I'm looking for. Losing weight but still craving crap is something I would like to get over at the ripe old age of 55. I have been eating low carb, keto for three weeks and the cravings ARE better. (I have been "addicted" to potato chips, crackers, pretzels, pizza since my youth.) I have not had a chip, pretzel, cracker, french fry etc., I'm down 5 pounds, and I am feeling pretty good.
And I highly recommend checking out dietdoctor.com to take a 2 week keto challenge. (It's free.)
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Not sure why the one sided debate happened but iv lost 90 pounds in 11 months iv become much more fit and healthy and i look damn good and i eat everything i want. And HIGH carb. My blood shows im perfect, No problems whatesoever ...Chocolate...bread...potatoes...icecream...fast food... Name it and lay it out in front of me ill eat it happily (assuming its yummy XD )
So yes you can change eating bad foods...and carbs....and processed food...and pop...
ALL you need is calorie defecit, And one could argue the stress involved in 100% clean eating and the mental aspect of feeling deprived constantly and the stress hormones could be much worse for your "transformation" thn eating the burger or chocolate or whatever would be.1 -
eating so few calories can result in making your metabolism slower. make sure your getting adequate protein and fibre rich carbs like broccoli. I have always had problems loosing weight until I started counting my macros. now I'm on week 8 of loosing a pound a week eating more than 60g of carbs a day! and not only "healthy" forms of carbs. I ate two donuts last week and still lost 1.3lbs. also make sure your on top of your water game.1
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<Checks calendar>
It's not January, is it?6 -
roughmatch wrote: »Lays potato chips have a different effect on the hormones in your body than an equivalent caloric intake of greens with an olive oil/balsamic vinaigrette.
Lay's are my go to snack after my Long Run on Sundays. The best of everything! Sodium (80s here in texas, need lots of salt when running) and Potassium!! Followed shortly by some type a protein. They make me happy which has to help my hormones, not stress me out which is bad for my hormones.
I love a salad too. I make room for all of it in my diet!!1 -
skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »StaciMarie1974 wrote: »skinnyfatty1983 wrote: »ur food is sabotaging your progress... vanilla, chickensoup , cheese and oil... your body is burning these things instead of burning your fat.. you need to eat clean, when i start eating clean, when my weight stopped moving, and i added workout and it dropped again...eating clean and lower calories will give u magic results
No.
yes, i tried before .., even 1 cup of soda drink will stop ur body from losing weight for at least 1 day....
Nope. Dropped 45 lbs in 150 days eating mostly healthy but not clean by any stretch. Plenty of Gardein, veggie dogs, Greek yogurt, once a week fried food and a cookie... and more than a litre of Diet pop every day.
different bodies react different to unhealthy food... i eat clean 90% and eat cheat meal to speed up metabolism.. but the key to result is still to eat clean consistently
Then you are unusual, perhaps unique. I eat mostly one-ingredient foods, and the whole cheat concept doesn't even make sense to me (cheat who or what?) But I didn't notice any difference in weight loss in the cases where my daily calories included a cookie or a beer. Still managed to lose a third of my body weight. Stayed pretty muscle-y, too.
If different bodies react differently to healthy food, that's all the more reason to give people advice that's justified by scientific research on large groups, rather than based on one's own unusual n = 1 results.
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I feel your pain. As we age, we lose lean muscle mass. This lowers our metabolism. I am post-menopause and this is also happening to me. I am going on 4 weeks and have only lost 3.5 pounds despite sticking to my calories and exercise routines. May I suggest weight lifting twice a week to maintain, and possibly increase, your muscle mass? Continue to calorie count and to eat a healthy diet, look into a plant based diet as a possibility. After 30 days revisit the scale. Create a lifestyle that you are happy with calorie and activity wise. You will see at least a good portion of the 58 pounds disappear. But the key is to live the life that makes it permanently gone. Eating a whole foods plant based diet will help keep it gone permanently. All the best to you!1
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roughmatch wrote: »Well, obviously we will have disagreement here about whether food is food. I am one that believes the closer a food is to its' natural form the better it is for you. I get the other viewpoint also ... in that "a calorie is a calorie" ... I USED to believe that also. Not anymore. Lays potato chips have a different effect on the hormones in your body than an equivalent caloric intake of greens with an olive oil/balsamic vinaigrette. They do ... really. We have been mislead over the HEALTH effects of added sugar/processed foods since the 1970's and the low-fat craze. It has led to skyrocketing obesity, metabolic syndrome, and many "fat" skinny people.
(I know, I know .... blast away. But you will notice the subject is being broached again by nutritionists, scientists, researchers, and doctors that have been confounded by the results of the low-fat, free-for-all "added sugar" in our diets and our continuing societal health decline.)
And I do agree that if you eat more calories, even if they ARE cleaner foods, you WILL gain weight. But those pesky hormones ... if you can eat as a new way of life instead of being ruled by cravings and thoughts of food ... an obsession with food ... well, that's what I'm looking for. Losing weight but still craving crap is something I would like to get over at the ripe old age of 55. I have been eating low carb, keto for three weeks and the cravings ARE better. (I have been "addicted" to potato chips, crackers, pretzels, pizza since my youth.) I have not had a chip, pretzel, cracker, french fry etc., I'm down 5 pounds, and I am feeling pretty good.
And I highly recommend checking out dietdoctor.com to take a 2 week keto challenge. (It's free.)
There are a lot of reasons to eat plenty of nutrient-dense, one-ingredient foods - the things some people call "clean" or "whole" or whatever (but I normally don't, because silly).
But for weight loss, calories are the big deal. No one food (or some few), when eaten in moderation and within calorie goal, is going to derail weight loss for someone who's medically normal.
For best nutrition and health, yes, overall, most of one's eating should be high-quality, nutrient-dense foods.
And, for muscle maintenance (as much as feasible in a calorie deficit) or growth (in maintenance to surplus), sufficient protein is needed, along with exercise that challenges those muscles.
An overall way of eating can possibly be "healthy" or "good" or whatever. Single foods are not "unhealthy", "bad" or "dirty" ** unless spoiled or poisonous (short or long term, so I'd include trans fats in that designation).
It's certainly true that for some people - sounds like you're one - reducing carbs can reduce cravings for carbs. But that's not universal. For some, forbidding particular foods leads to eventual binging on those foods. Satiation and cravings are very individual.
(** Well, lima beans and seaweed are kinda bad, if you ask me. YMMV.
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