What terms/phrases wind you up about losing weight?
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(I know you didn't specifically argue the contrary, @Mr_Knight.)
Oh good.
Because I'm not arguing against people knowing how to do basic cooking - the points you listed are all valid - just pointing out that it would be a relatively new expectation, because historically, that wasn't the case.
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I'm a grandmother and my grandmother knew how to cook. So that's five generations of familial rather than communal cooking.
I live in the prairies and I've visited farmer's kitchens. Everyone in the kitchen knew how to put together a meal. I've read pioneer diaries and even if community members supported each other, the good cook and the skilled musician were valued everywhere.
From the recipes handed down in our family I'd say this generation is missing a few basics. My granddaughter excepting of course.5 -
I picked up a family pack of pork chops and it made the equivalent of three dinners (just the two of us). The meal worked out to fifty cents a serving. Sure the sides were a little bit more but not much more. Can any fast food place beat that?3
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Sometimes I despair that this whole generation doesn't know how to shop or how to cook.
Historically, only a small fraction of people needed to know how to cook well, because meals were far more communal than they are in the era of the 1.6 kid nuclear family.
Everybody knowing how to cook would actually be the historical anomaly.
Suppose that's true (I'd argue the point.). Still, basic cooking is:- Dead easy
- Cheaper
- Likely to be more nutritious ovetall (if you're trying for that)
- Tastier (potentially)
- Lower calorie (if you're trying at all)
- Quicker than non-cooking people imagine
I wish more people would give it a whirl.
(I know you didn't specifically argue the contrary, @Mr_Knight.)
I'd argue that basic cooking seems easy to people that know how to cook, but I have heard of people burning water and following simple instructions.... Well you know how that goes.1 -
Practice makes anything easier.
Sometimes these you-tube videos make it worse by showing off a five star skill like its dead easy.
Don't start with the Souffle.8 -
Practice makes anything easier.
Sometimes these you-tube videos make it worse by showing off a five star skill like its dead easy.
Don't start with the Souffle.
Most people don't waste food like that.. Also that's probably when it becomes expensive.
I do agree that practice makes perfect.1 -
My mom tried to teach me how to cook, but she didn't have a lot of variety, so I didn't learn much. My SIL and SIL's sisters taught me a lot. Then I got a meal prep service, and it taught me a lot more. Those things are kind of expensive, but they have improved my confidence in the kitchen. I think if you have the money (~$10 per person, per meal; so less than a dinner out, but still pricy) and want to learn how to cook better, it is a good way to go.5
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- Lol. Ok, I'm showing my age here (an ancient 41 year old here), but why do people feel the urge to write lol in random places in a sentence? For example "I am at 180lbs now and really need to get to 120lbs lol". Do some people's keyboards just randomly dispense the word?...
Yes! The random lols! I don't get it either! They are usually inserted when there is nothing remotely funny nearby. Is it like a nervous tic or something? (To be fair, I'm even more ancient...)
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »Sometimes I despair that this whole generation doesn't know how to shop or how to cook.
Historically, only a small fraction of people needed to know how to cook well, because meals were far more communal than they are in the era of the 1.6 kid nuclear family.
Everybody knowing how to cook would actually be the historical anomaly.
Suppose that's true (I'd argue the point.). Still, basic cooking is:- Dead easy
- Cheaper
- Likely to be more nutritious ovetall (if you're trying for that)
- Tastier (potentially)
- Lower calorie (if you're trying at all)
- Quicker than non-cooking people imagine
I wish more people would give it a whirl.
(I know you didn't specifically argue the contrary, @Mr_Knight.)
I'd argue that basic cooking seems easy to people that know how to cook, but I have heard of people burning water and following simple instructions.... Well you know how that goes.
People who have the physical coordination and attention span required to drive a car, and the memory/intelligence needed to follow multi-episode TV shows, could learn basic cooking. They simply don't want to.
It's their call - it's not a moral obligation. I just think it's not the wisest available choice - especially if they're trying to get healthier or lose weight.
ETA: I think I'm starting to confuse this with the "Unpopular Opinions" thread.
Jeesh. Sorry! 5 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Sometimes I despair that this whole generation doesn't know how to shop or how to cook.
Historically, only a small fraction of people needed to know how to cook well, because meals were far more communal than they are in the era of the 1.6 kid nuclear family.
Everybody knowing how to cook would actually be the historical anomaly.
Suppose that's true (I'd argue the point.). Still, basic cooking is:- Dead easy
- Cheaper
- Likely to be more nutritious ovetall (if you're trying for that)
- Tastier (potentially)
- Lower calorie (if you're trying at all)
- Quicker than non-cooking people imagine
I wish more people would give it a whirl.
(I know you didn't specifically argue the contrary, @Mr_Knight.)
I'd argue that basic cooking seems easy to people that know how to cook, but I have heard of people burning water and following simple instructions.... Well you know how that goes.
People who have the physical coordination and attention span required to drive a car, and the memory/intelligence needed to follow multi-episode TV shows, could learn basic cooking. They simply don't want to.
It's their call - it's not a moral obligation. I just think it's not the wisest available choice - especially if they're trying to get healthier or lose weight.
ETA: I think I'm starting to confuse this with the "Unpopular Opinions" thread. Jeesh. Sorry!
Lol I agree. But then again common sense is not common and expectations are high here. :laugh:
And all the MFP threads start to run together after a while..3 -
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- Lol. Ok, I'm showing my age here (an ancient 41 year old here), but why do people feel the urge to write lol in random places in a sentence? For example "I am at 180lbs now and really need to get to 120lbs lol". Do some people's keyboards just randomly dispense the word?...
Yes! The random lols! I don't get it either! They are usually inserted when there is nothing remotely funny nearby. Is it like a nervous tic or something? (To be fair, I'm even more ancient...)
I think it generally means I'm joking...or being silly0 -
None. It actually annoys me how wound up people get over particular phrases.10
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I confess that I genuinely thought palette and palette were homonyms!Another peevish, elitist pedantry moment: "Palette" instead of "palate".
People, people, people: You put paint on a palette. You use a palate to appreciate flavors. Do not use your palette to choose foods, unless you improbably need to match your colorful veggies to your paintings.
</peevish></elitist></pedantry>
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Anything pseudo scientific. Keto is not healthy for anyone except for therapeutic purposes. Look up what ketogenesis is; smelling ketones on your breath ain't good.
Detox/toxins. Come on yo, this is how people sell you on ripoff supplements that do nothing.
Any kind of weight loss short cut.
Never ever eat below 1200 calories; hullo there are pretty tiny humans around and we exist, pathologizing people based on an arbitrary metric is ridiculous. Not to say that some people don't use this as an excuse for their EDs.
Which brings me to "I don't have an eating disorder, but I can't sleep I'm so hungry!" We need to as a community discourage extreme behaviors and support moderate behaviors. It's so easy to slip into disordered eating; something like 35% of dieters do. Hell, I sometimes do too. Let's just look out for each other, aiit?
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J9LynnHelton wrote: »"Research shows" then gives their opinion without any indication of where and what the research is. This isn't just when it comes to dieting. I have colleagues who do this at work. They do it to shut down the debate by claiming they are an expert or there is scientific evidence they are right. Frustrating.
Given the huge percentage of medical research that is essentially fraudulent I've learned to mistrust any appeal to authority that starts with, "Research has shown . . ."
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"Don't eat anything you can't pronounce"
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"Muscle weighs more than fat"
No. 1lb is 1lb regardless. A ton of feathers weighs the same as a ton of bricks.
Muscle just takes up less space than fat.5 -
x_stephisaur_x wrote: »"Muscle weighs more than fat"
No. 1lb is 1lb regardless. A ton of feathers weighs the same as a ton of bricks.
Muscle just takes up less space than fat.
By that argument, no.
A cubic centimeter is a cubic centimeter regardless. A cc of muscle takes up the same space as a cc of fat.
The cc of muscle just weighs more.
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I see your point. I meant more that 1lb of muscle takes up less space than 1lb of fat 1
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HeliumIsNoble wrote: »
Oooooooooooooh.Carlos_421 wrote: »
If I say I pigged out, I'm probably bragging. Lolsunfastrose wrote: »I hate the term "pigging out" when referring to self. It's so self hating.LovesDogsAndBooks wrote: »LovesDogsAndBooks wrote: »English is not my first language, so I don't get what's wrong with talking about "muscle tone" or "being toned"? Just had a quick glance at Wikipedia, and the word seems related to muscle.
It is. Atonic literally means 'lacking muscular tone.' So tone is technically fine to say.
However, when someone says they want to 'tone up' I still always picture this:
Thanks! Maybe there are certain negative connotations that you only have as a native speaker. But there have been a couple of people here in this thread that are bothered by someone saying muscle tone or getting toned. Then they seem to be wrong, not the people who say that.
There is a misconception that a person's muscles may be soft and "un-toned" and that working out with light weights or cardio will "tone" those muscles, making them tighter and firmer (appearing smaller). However, that's not actually how things work so when people take issue with people wanting to "tone," it has more to do with this misconception than the word itself.
The truth is that muscle is denser and firmer than fat so if your arm feels soft and squishy, it's because you have fat in your arm. The way to "get toned" then is to either 1) lose the fat to reveal the muscle underneath or 2) build the muscle (making it bigger) so that it can be seen/felt in contrast to the fat.
However, people think that if they're not too overweight and they feel soft, it's not due to the presence of fat and their muscles are just soft/fluffy, which is not really the case.
Is THAT what the toning arguments are about? Did not realise that anyone was under that misapprehension at all. I've been vaguely noticing passionate arguments on "toning"and whether it was possible to "make yourself toned" for yonks.
Did wonder why anyone would be arguing against the idea that it's possible to make your muscles slightly bigger, but not very much bigger.
Light has dawned.
To me, "toning" means "tightening". For example, back in college I took an exercise class 3 times a week; tons of crunches for an hour was the main exercise, I swear! I lost 1 1/2 inches off my waist...but not a pound of weight because I was eating like a pig. I was "toning" up. I think it is completely possible to tone muscles, meaning having them tighten up.
"Loose" weight makes me nuts. It's clearly not a typo. People just don't know how to spell. You see a lot of "cloths" instead of "clothes" too. You don't wear "cloths"...cloth is what clothes are made from. Also, "advice" is what you are asking for not "advise". You are asking ME to give YOU advice...and I am advising you. They're two different words!
Grammar police rant done.6
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