August 2017 Running Challenge

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  • skippygirlsmom
    skippygirlsmom Posts: 4,433 Member
    @shanaber have a great visit.
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    @5512bf I KNEW there was someone else on this thread who had used Pfitzinger's stuff! I just couldn't remember who it was, lol. I'm training for my first ever marathon, and I'm doing a 'split the difference' combination of his 18 week 'Up to 55 MPW' and '55 to 70 MPW' plan, based on where my weekly mileage was before the start of my marathon training cycle. I went with his stuff based on the recommendation of my resident office awesome marathoner, and am so far really liking it. I feel like I'm definitely improving. I have been modifying some of the scheduled speed workouts, since I go to a group speed workout during the summer and will just do whatever they have scheduled instead of what my plan lists (but at my current level, I'm pretty sure ANY speed work is helpful for me), and I missed the LT run in the first week, but am aiming to hit all the rest of them.
  • karllundy
    karllundy Posts: 1,490 Member
    8/1 - Rest/sick day - feeling better, but not sure running would have been good. Hoping for tomorrow.
    8/2 - 4.5 miles of hill repeats. Glad I did it, more glad I'm done.
    8/3 - 3.5 short miles before getting in the car with the family.
    8/4 - Road trip / vacation
    8/5 - Road trip / vacation / anniversary
    8/6 - 5 miles. Gorgeous morning for a run!
    8/7 - 5 miles. Again, beautiful morning!
    8/8 - 5 miles. Another nice morning!
    8/9 - 4.6 miles of hill repeats with group. I am soooo tired and sleepy today.
    8/10 - 4.4 treadmill miles / trek class. Then upper body weights/abs.
    8/11 - Rest day because I have to.

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  • NikolaosKey
    NikolaosKey Posts: 410 Member
    edited August 2017
    @KatieJane83 @skippygirlsmom Thank you. I will do my best!
  • Dcorrick
    Dcorrick Posts: 56 Member
    Made tomorrow's scheduled easy run today, since I'll be driving (or moving daughter's furniture) all day tomorrow. 3.0 miles: 76 degrees and honest-to-God Weather Channel 100% humidity. I'm working at running the whole way, but not there yet; working on getting the pace right. Tried to increase it a little today, but couldn't sustain it.

    Does driving and moving furniture count as a rest day? My truck is singularly uncomfortable on long drives, and even the commute to work can hurt after a run. But MapMyRun has a "long run" planned for me on Sunday that's shorter than the runs I've been doing, so I'll shoot for 3 or more on Sunday. Pretty far ahead of pace for my 45-mile August goal so far.


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  • 5512bf
    5512bf Posts: 389 Member
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    @5512bf I KNEW there was someone else on this thread who had used Pfitzinger's stuff! I just couldn't remember who it was, lol. I'm training for my first ever marathon, and I'm doing a 'split the difference' combination of his 18 week 'Up to 55 MPW' and '55 to 70 MPW' plan, based on where my weekly mileage was before the start of my marathon training cycle. I went with his stuff based on the recommendation of my resident office awesome marathoner, and am so far really liking it. I feel like I'm definitely improving. I have been modifying some of the scheduled speed workouts, since I go to a group speed workout during the summer and will just do whatever they have scheduled instead of what my plan lists (but at my current level, I'm pretty sure ANY speed work is helpful for me), and I missed the LT run in the first week, but am aiming to hit all the rest of them.

    I think it was by far the best plan i used for my 3 marathons. I used a couple of higdon's plans to start and i don't think they had me anywhere near prepared. Sure I did a couple of 20 mile long runs but the midweek middle distance stuff was useless. The Pfitz 18/70 plan with the 15+ 12-15 mile middle distance runs had me ready to finish strong, not just finish.

    I also had to modify a couple of a his LT runs since I wasn't sub 8 min marathoner and 6 to 7 miles at LT would have knock me out for a day or two. I think I did a couple of 5 mile LT runs instead. The week 5 20 mile long run and the 22 miler at first were scary to put on the calendar, but I was able to pretty much hit everything until that last couple of weeks during the taper when I was nursing the hip. I'm sure you'll go into race feeling stronger than you ever have, I know I did. Hardest part was finding enough good food to eat. 65-70 miles a week was 4 extra days worth of food to eat. During my peak I was eating 3200-3600 calories a day, and losing weight.
  • ARoe9410
    ARoe9410 Posts: 97 Member
    Goal: 50 miles

    8/1: 1.5
    8/2: 4.0
    8/3: 3.0
    8/8: 2.0
    8/9: 4.0
    8/11: 4.0

    Remaining: 31.5 miles
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    5512bf wrote: »
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    @5512bf I KNEW there was someone else on this thread who had used Pfitzinger's stuff! I just couldn't remember who it was, lol. I'm training for my first ever marathon, and I'm doing a 'split the difference' combination of his 18 week 'Up to 55 MPW' and '55 to 70 MPW' plan, based on where my weekly mileage was before the start of my marathon training cycle. I went with his stuff based on the recommendation of my resident office awesome marathoner, and am so far really liking it. I feel like I'm definitely improving. I have been modifying some of the scheduled speed workouts, since I go to a group speed workout during the summer and will just do whatever they have scheduled instead of what my plan lists (but at my current level, I'm pretty sure ANY speed work is helpful for me), and I missed the LT run in the first week, but am aiming to hit all the rest of them.

    I think it was by far the best plan i used for my 3 marathons. I used a couple of higdon's plans to start and i don't think they had me anywhere near prepared. Sure I did a couple of 20 mile long runs but the midweek middle distance stuff was useless. The Pfitz 18/70 plan with the 15+ 12-15 mile middle distance runs had me ready to finish strong, not just finish.

    I also had to modify a couple of a his LT runs since I wasn't sub 8 min marathoner and 6 to 7 miles at LT would have knock me out for a day or two. I think I did a couple of 5 mile LT runs instead. The week 5 20 mile long run and the 22 miler at first were scary to put on the calendar, but I was able to pretty much hit everything until that last couple of weeks during the taper when I was nursing the hip. I'm sure you'll go into race feeling stronger than you ever have, I know I did. Hardest part was finding enough good food to eat. 65-70 miles a week was 4 extra days worth of food to eat. During my peak I was eating 3200-3600 calories a day, and losing weight.

    Yes, that is good to hear! That's what I like about the plan, I feel like mentally, having such a strong foundation and mileage, I will go into my first marathon feeling as confident as I could ever hope to be. And that is an excellent point about some of the later LT runs. No way can I do a 12 mile run with 7 miles at LT threshold, I'm not fast enough to fit 7 miles in my LT pace range. So I'll definitely modify a couple of those to fit my level.

    And agreed on the food! The way I combined the two plans, my peak weeks come out at 64 miles, and that is an awful lot of food to eat back! I mean, I'm not really complaining, I kinda like having needing to eat more as a problem :D I love food
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    carolineb81 wrote: »
    1/8-REST
    2/8-5.3
    3/8-3.6
    4/8-5.6
    5/8-3.1
    6/8-7.7
    7/8-REST
    8/8-4.3
    9/8-3.7
    10/8-REST
    11/8-8.6

    Total - 41.9/120 Miles.

    Today was my longest run to date!

    Congrats!!!!
  • 5512bf
    5512bf Posts: 389 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    5512bf wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    There's currently a 70 oz reservoir with 60 oz of Tailwind, a UD body bottle with 16 oz of tailwind and a body bottle with 16oz of nuun in my fridge currently. I have 6 gels and a package of gummy worms in my vest.... starting to feel ready for tomorrow.

    You know I'm not the kinda of guy who will always tell you want you want to hear, but what you probably need to hear. Be careful with the 100k thing. I've got several friends who do them, and they are brutal with a large percentage of DNF's. Most would not pick a 100k event until they have a very solid track record of completing marathons or 50k events successfully. I know you've done a couple marathons but have not successfully navigated through them for "good" experiences. This planned run is probably 10-12 miles further then what you have been able to get through without issues. There is no shame in cutting this short and living to run another day.

    Tomorrow is 47k....... 100k is in October.... Local 100 mile runners talked me into going for the 100k...they know my running and said it's more than doable.... so I decided to go for it.... success for me on trail is always just a finish.... but really, I'd rather run a horrible race that's probably outside my ability, than run I know I can do... foe me there's no fun in that... same reason I run the Superior trail, it's for the challenge and difficulty,... .... just who I am... same reason I work with children with severe mental and behavioral disorders....

    There is nothing wrong with pushing yourself, just sometimes it takes more time than what you are allowing to get to the point to successfully be able to navigate such a race.

    Also you might consider more calories for the run. My buddies generally do 200-240 calories an hour, and you're probably looking at 8ish hours plus on the trail. They also mix in some more solid foods like Clifbars & trail mixes with nuts, etc.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    TattooedDolphinGirl78 wrote: »
    Just checking in to say hello to all you fabulous runners!!! I miss you guys... Hope you're all doing well! :smiley:

    We miss you too!
  • shrcpr
    shrcpr Posts: 885 Member
    carolineb81 wrote: »
    1/8-REST
    2/8-5.3
    3/8-3.6
    4/8-5.6
    5/8-3.1
    6/8-7.7
    7/8-REST
    8/8-4.3
    9/8-3.7
    10/8-REST
    11/8-8.6

    Total - 41.9/120 Miles.

    Today was my longest run to date!

    Congrats on the long run!!
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    5512bf wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    5512bf wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    There's currently a 70 oz reservoir with 60 oz of Tailwind, a UD body bottle with 16 oz of tailwind and a body bottle with 16oz of nuun in my fridge currently. I have 6 gels and a package of gummy worms in my vest.... starting to feel ready for tomorrow.

    You know I'm not the kinda of guy who will always tell you want you want to hear, but what you probably need to hear. Be careful with the 100k thing. I've got several friends who do them, and they are brutal with a large percentage of DNF's. Most would not pick a 100k event until they have a very solid track record of completing marathons or 50k events successfully. I know you've done a couple marathons but have not successfully navigated through them for "good" experiences. This planned run is probably 10-12 miles further then what you have been able to get through without issues. There is no shame in cutting this short and living to run another day.

    Tomorrow is 47k....... 100k is in October.... Local 100 mile runners talked me into going for the 100k...they know my running and said it's more than doable.... so I decided to go for it.... success for me on trail is always just a finish.... but really, I'd rather run a horrible race that's probably outside my ability, than run I know I can do... foe me there's no fun in that... same reason I run the Superior trail, it's for the challenge and difficulty,... .... just who I am... same reason I work with children with severe mental and behavioral disorders....

    There is nothing wrong with pushing yourself, just sometimes it takes more time than what you are allowing to get to the point to successfully be able to navigate such a race.

    Also you might consider more calories for the run. My buddies generally do 200-240 calories an hour, and you're probably looking at 8ish hours plus on the trail. They also mix in some more solid foods like Clifbars & trail mixes with nuts, etc.

    Forgot to mention, we have an aid statio n set up at thr half way to refill.... what I listed was just first half.... and gonna load more..... and I forgot my honey stinger waffles...and...ooohh... forgot my cliff bars and jerky........ I'm gonna be a walking buffet tonorrow. typing and packing isn't the best way to do things...... I know.... I'm going at a hugely rapid pace in my hoping things.... Just who I am. I'd rather have a race go bad because I pushed too hard too soon than wonder what if..... which is why I always tell new runners to not follow my example...lol
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
    Still a bit sick, but getting better. Not enough energy for running yet. But maybe a walk today or tomorrow.

    Sigh. May have to adjust my goal based on all the runs I'm missing.

    Have a great weekend, all.
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    @MNLittleFinn I thought your next big race was a 50 miler.

    Things have obviously changed.

    I have no idea of your training plan or capability (actually, I suspect your capability is just fine) BUT - it's August and you are looking at 47k. So there's 8 weeks ish to double your distance. Most marathon plans are longer than that, even if you HAVE done a few halfs on the way there.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    edited August 2017
    girlinahat wrote: »
    @MNLittleFinn I thought your next big race was a 50 miler.

    Things have obviously changed.

    I have no idea of your training plan or capability (actually, I suspect your capability is just fine) BUT - it's August and you are looking at 47k. So there's 8 weeks ish to double your distance. Most marathon plans are longer than that, even if you HAVE done a few halfs on the way there.

    I'm on week 6 of training actually, of a 16 week training cycle. Most 100k training plans actually don't have a ~30 mile run this far this early (10 weeks out), so I'm actually ahead of the game in that respect....I actually do know what I'm doing and wish people would respect that. I didn't ask for advice. which is why I also don't dole out unsolicited advice.
  • allyphoe
    allyphoe Posts: 618 Member
    Runningmischka wrote: »
    For those of you who run in the morning: do you have a snack before you go out there?

    I have much lower mileage than you, so my experience is probably entirely irrelevant. But on the off chance...

    If I've eaten at maintenance the day before, and don't wake up hungry, I run fasted. Otherwise, I have a Costco nut bar (Kind Bar equivalent). My stomach is not very picky, though, and I rarely have running related GI issues regardless of what I eat or when.

  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    @MNLittleFinn are you being extra defensive?

    Just a thought.....

    You do what you plan to do. We're just armchair commentators. Trying to help you not burn out.
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