Aspartame in diet sodas causes diabets and weight gain?!
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piperdown44 wrote: »OMG you didn't know that about red shirts?! (<-humor warning, just in case).
The one in red always dies.
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Research Dr. Eric Berg on YouTube. He has some really insightful and interesting topics regarding artificial sweeteners and insulin response. If you are looking to heal yourself and not just lose/gain weight, then his videos would be a good start.
Doctor wannabe Eric Berg is an uber quack chiropractor. Nothing he says is even remotely grounded in science.
There's no need to be so rude. No one is going to force you to watch his videos. But saying that, through following his advice, he has indirectly helped my dad to reverse his type 2 diabetes. On the contrary I don't like how Dr Berg claims all carbs are the devil. I just pick the info that I found useful and ignore the rest.21 -
Research Dr. Eric Berg on YouTube. He has some really insightful and interesting topics regarding artificial sweeteners and insulin response. If you are looking to heal yourself and not just lose/gain weight, then his videos would be a good start.
Doctor wannabe Eric Berg is an uber quack chiropractor. Nothing he says is even remotely grounded in science.
There's no need to be so rude. No one is going to force you to watch his videos. But saying that, through following his advice, he has indirectly helped my dad to reverse his type 2 diabetes. On the contrary I don't like how Dr Berg claims all carbs are the devil. I just pick the info that I found useful and ignore the rest.
It isn't rude to point out that Berg/Taubes/Oz are all quacks. Glad you found something useful, but none of them are really worth listening to. And pointing that out is, ultimately, helpful.10 -
Research Dr. Eric Berg on YouTube. He has some really insightful and interesting topics regarding artificial sweeteners and insulin response. If you are looking to heal yourself and not just lose/gain weight, then his videos would be a good start.
Doctor wannabe Eric Berg is an uber quack chiropractor. Nothing he says is even remotely grounded in science.
There's no need to be so rude. No one is going to force you to watch his videos. But saying that, through following his advice, he has indirectly helped my dad to reverse his type 2 diabetes. On the contrary I don't like how Dr Berg claims all carbs are the devil. I just pick the info that I found useful and ignore the rest.
I don't think it was rude. There are plenty of people who follow advice from people who make outlandish claims that end up working. It doesn't validate the science or lack there of those claims. And considering Eric Berg's advice is anti carb (which a lot of non scientist are doing these days), I am not surprised that it helped your dad put his diabetes in remediation. In all honest, if you vilify enough foods, then the limitations may work to address a condition.6 -
Diet sodas don't make you gain weight. It's n = 1, but for some people it increases appetite and that causes weight gain if they indulge. That, or they overeat because they figure they can since they aren't drinking their calories.
Personally I drink 3-4 a day and haven't gained weight from it (now when I go out to eat and don't care to monitor my choices...that's a different story). Another n = 1, but a few people in threads have mentioned developing sensitivities (clinically diagnosed with which eliminating the diet soda cured their symptoms) or addictions to the sweeteners which made it preferable for them to stop. May not happen to everyone.
That being said, some sweeteners are misleading! If you buy some for baking, etc read the label. Of the same brand packets and a different container container can have different artifical sweeteners added to them besides what are advertised. Sometimes, the added sweetener is harmless. Other times, it can cause a blood sugar spike.
Here's a link to a list of sweeteners and their GI. Below there's some additional info and links if you'd like to search trials done for the GI of some sweeteners.
http://www.sugar-and-sweetener-guide.com/glycemic-index-for-sweeteners.html1 -
Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.1
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Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.
not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.
not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free
You're right. Cherry and regular diet Pepsi is aspartame free, it says it on the can.
Thank you for clarifying!
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When I was younger I used to eat a cheeseburger with a diet coke float. Something in the back of my mind telling me that was a healthier alternative. Nope. Just slightly less calories than a regular one.
Now I just drink beer or wine with my cheeseburger.
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.
not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free
You're right. Cherry and regular diet Pepsi is aspartame free, it says it on the can. Thank you for clarifying!
I thought that was short lived and that they're back to aspartame?0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.
not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free
You're right. Cherry and regular diet Pepsi is aspartame free, it says it on the can. Thank you for clarifying!
I thought that was short lived and that they're back to aspartame?
In my area whenever I go to the store the diet and diet cherry Pepsi say aspartame free still. Can't say for anywhere else I suppose. If you find yours doesn't please let me know I wouldn't want to unknowingly misinform people.
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Carlos_421 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.
not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free
You're right. Cherry and regular diet Pepsi is aspartame free, it says it on the can. Thank you for clarifying!
I thought that was short lived and that they're back to aspartame?
In my area whenever I go to the store the diet and diet cherry Pepsi say aspartame free still. Can't say for anywhere else I suppose. If you find yours doesn't please let me know I wouldn't want to unknowingly misinform people.
Looks like I had bad info. Just checked online and PepsiCo still lists sucralose in the ingredients for Diet Pepsi.1 -
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I googled that and got this in a box:
They found that saccharin (a.k.a. Sweet'N Low), sucralose (a.k.a. Splenda) and aspartame (a.k.a. NutraSweet and Equal) raised blood sugar levels by dramatically changing the makeup of the gut microorganisms, mainly bacteria, that are in the intestines and help with nutrition and the immune system.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar17 -
TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »
I googled that and got this in a box:
They found that saccharin (a.k.a. Sweet'N Low), sucralose (a.k.a. Splenda) and aspartame (a.k.a. NutraSweet and Equal) raised blood sugar levels by dramatically changing the makeup of the gut microorganisms, mainly bacteria, that are in the intestines and help with nutrition and the immune system.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
Be thankful that your not a mouse13 -
I'm a bear that can keep a conversation going.2
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TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »
I googled that and got this in a box:
They found that saccharin (a.k.a. Sweet'N Low), sucralose (a.k.a. Splenda) and aspartame (a.k.a. NutraSweet and Equal) raised blood sugar levels by dramatically changing the makeup of the gut microorganisms, mainly bacteria, that are in the intestines and help with nutrition and the immune system.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
That's why diabetics are dropping dead everywhere as a result of using sugar substitutes...?15 -
Just something I googled. I don't really care about artificial sweeteners. I love diet coke in my rum. I'm not some kind of anti weirdo advocate.5
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singingflutelady wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions.
.... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out.
Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body.
* Those that drink water have always been normal body weight.
Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue?
Go hang out with a bunch of anorexics. They drink a lot of diet pop. I know tons of normal and underweight people who drink diet pop.
Similar to what I was just thinking.
I hate the taste of plain water. Hate hate hate it. I'll do Perrier, and use diet soda as a reward if I hit my fluid goals from coffee + tea + the Perrier.
I'm on the slimmer side of a healthy weight profile. Run half marathons. Working toward recovery from a restrictive eating disorder.
Obviously, my love of Diet Coke is just an indication that I'm a lard-covered irresponsible person who has a negative attitude toward healthy behavior.3 -
TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »
I googled that and got this in a box:
They found that saccharin (a.k.a. Sweet'N Low), sucralose (a.k.a. Splenda) and aspartame (a.k.a. NutraSweet and Equal) raised blood sugar levels by dramatically changing the makeup of the gut microorganisms, mainly bacteria, that are in the intestines and help with nutrition and the immune system.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
I don't generally use webMD as a source, but from the same article:"The fact that this study’s findings are so vastly different from the preponderance of science on this issue is a signal to those evaluating it that there may be issues with the study design,” said Marianne Smith Edge, RD, in a statement. She's senior vice president of nutrition and food safety at the foundation.
Haley Stevens, PhD, president of the Calorie Control Council, also said the human as well as the mouse studies were too small to conclude that the findings apply to larger groups.
“In contrast to the assertions made by the researchers of this study, the overall evidence from studies on low-calorie sweeteners shows that these sweeteners are safe and do not have adverse effects on blood glucose control,” Stevens said in a statement.9
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