Carlos_421 wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free You're right. Cherry and regular diet Pepsi is aspartame free, it says it on the can. Thank you for clarifying! I thought that was short lived and that they're back to aspartame?
catnyxx wrote: » CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free You're right. Cherry and regular diet Pepsi is aspartame free, it says it on the can. Thank you for clarifying!
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free
catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.
catnyxx wrote: » Carlos_421 wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free You're right. Cherry and regular diet Pepsi is aspartame free, it says it on the can. Thank you for clarifying! I thought that was short lived and that they're back to aspartame? In my area whenever I go to the store the diet and diet cherry Pepsi say aspartame free still. Can't say for anywhere else I suppose. If you find yours doesn't please let me know I wouldn't want to unknowingly misinform people.
tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though.
TheWJordinWJordin wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I googled that and got this in a box: They found that saccharin (a.k.a. Sweet'N Low), sucralose (a.k.a. Splenda) and aspartame (a.k.a. NutraSweet and Equal) raised blood sugar levels by dramatically changing the makeup of the gut microorganisms, mainly bacteria, that are in the intestines and help with nutrition and the immune system.http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar
singingflutelady wrote: » TheWJordinWJordin wrote: » I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions. .... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out. Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body. * Those that drink water have always been normal body weight. Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue? Go hang out with a bunch of anorexics. They drink a lot of diet pop. I know tons of normal and underweight people who drink diet pop.
TheWJordinWJordin wrote: » I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions. .... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out. Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body. * Those that drink water have always been normal body weight. Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue?
"The fact that this study’s findings are so vastly different from the preponderance of science on this issue is a signal to those evaluating it that there may be issues with the study design,” said Marianne Smith Edge, RD, in a statement. She's senior vice president of nutrition and food safety at the foundation. Haley Stevens, PhD, president of the Calorie Control Council, also said the human as well as the mouse studies were too small to conclude that the findings apply to larger groups. “In contrast to the assertions made by the researchers of this study, the overall evidence from studies on low-calorie sweeteners shows that these sweeteners are safe and do not have adverse effects on blood glucose control,” Stevens said in a statement.
catnyxx wrote: » For anyone quoting medicle articles there's lots of paid studies by biased companies out there... I would say if you're not getting the results you want, cut out artificial sugars for 2 weeks and see if that helps. Every body is different
catnyxx wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I know what sucrose is, sucralose is in sugar free foods. Sucralose is derived from sugar (Sucrose) is calorie free and does not affect blood sugar. Sucralose is also branded as Splenda.
mathjulz wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucralose is made from a sugar molecule (sucrose, IIRC) that has one of its Carbon atoms replaced by a chlorine atom. Aspartame is a bipeptide, made from two amino acids (remember, those are the building blocks of proteins). Of the two, aspartame has been around longer and so has been studied more extensively. There is no evidence that either is harmful in moderation. IMO, sucralose tastes awful, so I stick with aspartame. Carlos_421 wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free You're right. Cherry and regular diet Pepsi is aspartame free, it says it on the can. Thank you for clarifying! I thought that was short lived and that they're back to aspartame? Sadly, no, as far as I can tell. They have a "classic sweetener blend" of Diet Pepsi, which is aspartame, but the rest is still suckralose sucralose.
Muscleflex79 wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » For anyone quoting medicle articles there's lots of paid studies by biased companies out there... I would say if you're not getting the results you want, cut out artificial sugars for 2 weeks and see if that helps. Every body is different every body is different, but there are no bodies that gain weight on a 0 calorie sweetener.
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: » TheWJordinWJordin wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I googled that and got this in a box: They found that saccharin (a.k.a. Sweet'N Low), sucralose (a.k.a. Splenda) and aspartame (a.k.a. NutraSweet and Equal) raised blood sugar levels by dramatically changing the makeup of the gut microorganisms, mainly bacteria, that are in the intestines and help with nutrition and the immune system.http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20140917/artificial-sweeteners-blood-sugar That's why diabetics are dropping dead everywhere as a result of using sugar substitutes...?
mathjulz wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I know what sucrose is, sucralose is in sugar free foods. Sucralose is derived from sugar (Sucrose) is calorie free and does not affect blood sugar. Sucralose is also branded as Splenda. I'm going to pedantic for a moment. Sucralose is, technically still a sugar and has 4 calories per gram. But it is super sweet, so one only needs such a small amount that the calories are basically insignificant. As a bipeptide (protein), aspartame also has 4 calories per gram, but again is sweet enough that the calories are considered insignificant.
Christine_72 wrote: » There was a blurb on the radio this morning that they're doing a segment later today on aspartame and cancer/digestive issues and health concerns... I don't think the controversy surrounding aspartame is ever going to die down.
stevencloser wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I know what sucrose is, sucralose is in sugar free foods. Sucralose is derived from sugar (Sucrose) is calorie free and does not affect blood sugar. Sucralose is also branded as Splenda. I'm going to pedantic for a moment. Sucralose is, technically still a sugar and has 4 calories per gram. But it is super sweet, so one only needs such a small amount that the calories are basically insignificant. As a bipeptide (protein), aspartame also has 4 calories per gram, but again is sweet enough that the calories are considered insignificant. I think sucralose is a sugar alcohol and non-digestible. It passes through.
mathjulz wrote: » stevencloser wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I know what sucrose is, sucralose is in sugar free foods. Sucralose is derived from sugar (Sucrose) is calorie free and does not affect blood sugar. Sucralose is also branded as Splenda. I'm going to pedantic for a moment. Sucralose is, technically still a sugar and has 4 calories per gram. But it is super sweet, so one only needs such a small amount that the calories are basically insignificant. As a bipeptide (protein), aspartame also has 4 calories per gram, but again is sweet enough that the calories are considered insignificant. I think sucralose is a sugar alcohol and non-digestible. It passes through. I'd have to go back and check to be positive, but I'm pretty sure sucralose is different from the sugar alcohols. Will try to follow up later (when I don't have a kid waiting for math help, lol)
midwesterner85 wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » stevencloser wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I know what sucrose is, sucralose is in sugar free foods. Sucralose is derived from sugar (Sucrose) is calorie free and does not affect blood sugar. Sucralose is also branded as Splenda. I'm going to pedantic for a moment. Sucralose is, technically still a sugar and has 4 calories per gram. But it is super sweet, so one only needs such a small amount that the calories are basically insignificant. As a bipeptide (protein), aspartame also has 4 calories per gram, but again is sweet enough that the calories are considered insignificant. I think sucralose is a sugar alcohol and non-digestible. It passes through. I'd have to go back and check to be positive, but I'm pretty sure sucralose is different from the sugar alcohols. Will try to follow up later (when I don't have a kid waiting for math help, lol) Sucralose is NOT a sugar alcohol. Sucralose is sucrose (sugar) that has been modified by adding a chlorine atom; which is supposed to make it unable to be digested by humans. I've heard that some people are able to absorb it anyway, but I haven't been able to verify that. I know I don't convert sucralose to glucose, despite that I absorb some sugar alcohols. I would know because I have type 1 diabetes and use a continuous glucose monitor. I would notice the effect on BG, if any.
mathjulz wrote: » stevencloser wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I know what sucrose is, sucralose is in sugar free foods. Sucralose is derived from sugar (Sucrose) is calorie free and does not affect blood sugar. Sucralose is also branded as Splenda. I'm going to pedantic for a moment. Sucralose is, technically still a sugar and has 4 calories per gram. But it is super sweet, so one only needs such a small amount that the calories are basically insignificant. As a bipeptide (protein), aspartame also has 4 calories per gram, but again is sweet enough that the calories are considered insignificant. I think sucralose is a sugar alcohol and non-digestible. It passes through. I know wikipedia isn't the ideal source, but it does show diagrams of the sucralose molecule and has some interesting information on its "discovery" as a sweetener. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose. It is a saccharide (sugar) molecule with chlorine in 3 locations actually. midwesterner85 wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » stevencloser wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I know what sucrose is, sucralose is in sugar free foods. Sucralose is derived from sugar (Sucrose) is calorie free and does not affect blood sugar. Sucralose is also branded as Splenda. I'm going to pedantic for a moment. Sucralose is, technically still a sugar and has 4 calories per gram. But it is super sweet, so one only needs such a small amount that the calories are basically insignificant. As a bipeptide (protein), aspartame also has 4 calories per gram, but again is sweet enough that the calories are considered insignificant. I think sucralose is a sugar alcohol and non-digestible. It passes through. I'd have to go back and check to be positive, but I'm pretty sure sucralose is different from the sugar alcohols. Will try to follow up later (when I don't have a kid waiting for math help, lol) Sucralose is NOT a sugar alcohol. Sucralose is sucrose (sugar) that has been modified by adding a chlorine atom; which is supposed to make it unable to be digested by humans. I've heard that some people are able to absorb it anyway, but I haven't been able to verify that. I know I don't convert sucralose to glucose, despite that I absorb some sugar alcohols. I would know because I have type 1 diabetes and use a continuous glucose monitor. I would notice the effect on BG, if any. As mentioned above, it's not that sucralose is indigestible, it's that it is so sweet that the amount used of actual sweetener is very small (most of what is in your packet of Splenda is binding agents or fillers, not the sweetener itself). So what is used is insignificant in affecting BG or insulin response.
midwesterner85 wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » stevencloser wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I know what sucrose is, sucralose is in sugar free foods. Sucralose is derived from sugar (Sucrose) is calorie free and does not affect blood sugar. Sucralose is also branded as Splenda. I'm going to pedantic for a moment. Sucralose is, technically still a sugar and has 4 calories per gram. But it is super sweet, so one only needs such a small amount that the calories are basically insignificant. As a bipeptide (protein), aspartame also has 4 calories per gram, but again is sweet enough that the calories are considered insignificant. I think sucralose is a sugar alcohol and non-digestible. It passes through. I know wikipedia isn't the ideal source, but it does show diagrams of the sucralose molecule and has some interesting information on its "discovery" as a sweetener. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose. It is a saccharide (sugar) molecule with chlorine in 3 locations actually. midwesterner85 wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » stevencloser wrote: » mathjulz wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » tayusuki wrote: » catnyxx wrote: » Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol. Sucrose is the sugar. Sucralose doesn't affect blood sugar though. I know what sucrose is, sucralose is in sugar free foods. Sucralose is derived from sugar (Sucrose) is calorie free and does not affect blood sugar. Sucralose is also branded as Splenda. I'm going to pedantic for a moment. Sucralose is, technically still a sugar and has 4 calories per gram. But it is super sweet, so one only needs such a small amount that the calories are basically insignificant. As a bipeptide (protein), aspartame also has 4 calories per gram, but again is sweet enough that the calories are considered insignificant. I think sucralose is a sugar alcohol and non-digestible. It passes through. I'd have to go back and check to be positive, but I'm pretty sure sucralose is different from the sugar alcohols. Will try to follow up later (when I don't have a kid waiting for math help, lol) Sucralose is NOT a sugar alcohol. Sucralose is sucrose (sugar) that has been modified by adding a chlorine atom; which is supposed to make it unable to be digested by humans. I've heard that some people are able to absorb it anyway, but I haven't been able to verify that. I know I don't convert sucralose to glucose, despite that I absorb some sugar alcohols. I would know because I have type 1 diabetes and use a continuous glucose monitor. I would notice the effect on BG, if any. As mentioned above, it's not that sucralose is indigestible, it's that it is so sweet that the amount used of actual sweetener is very small (most of what is in your packet of Splenda is binding agents or fillers, not the sweetener itself). So what is used is insignificant in affecting BG or insulin response. I believe we agree - or maybe not, but let's clarify some things: There is a difference between something passing through vs. being absorbed first and then excreted unchanged vs. being absorbed and digesting, converting to glucose, or storing as fat. In the case of sucralose, most just passes through. A small amount (10%-15%) is temporarily absorbed by cells and then excreted unchanged. It doesn't get permanently absorbed, digested, converted to glucose, or stored. Unless you actually believe that sucralose becomes glucose, we are saying the same thing. The only difference is that you are adding in the trivial point that it doesn't all just go straight through us without stopping at Go and without collecting $200... a small amount goes through in a less direct route.
