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    • Posts: 14,776 Member
      JeepHair77 wrote: »
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      OMG. I actually keep kool-aid flavor drops in my desk at work, in both grape and cherry, because I'm really an 8-year-old in a 40-year-old's body. So I just squirted some of the cherry in my coke zero sugar, and it's amazing. Life-changing.

      This is brilliant! I'm going to have to try it.
    • Posts: 3,502 Member
      Ya know, as an aside...

      I wonder what fraction of people who avoid diet beverages because of "chemicals" happily consume drugs which have had less testing and long-term exposure than artificial sweeteners? How about hormonal birth control?
    • Posts: 37 Member
      4homer wrote: »
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      diet Dr pepper cherry is amazeballs

      So much this.
    • Posts: 164 Member
      edited September 2017
      diannethegeek wrote: »
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      Which part of the structure of aspartyl-phenylalanine methol described in the first post of that thread do you feel is an "opnion"? Are we really going to say that the structure of a molecule is an opnion now?

      He clearly states at the beginning of his post it is why he "personally believes" it is safe:

      "Wanted to clear some things up about aspartame if I could just to explain why I personally believe there is absolutely no reason to fear aspartame."

      I'm not arguing the structure...I'm arguing what it all means.

      I've read his post and I see he cited sources, only problem is those sources no longer exist (except for the first one), so one cannot exactly view the source.

      I'm not saying he is wrong. He very well could be right, but it cannot be said for certain that artificial sweeteners are harmless, just in the same way I cannot say for certain that they are harmful. There are studies that are in favor of both sides. That is the point I'm trying to make...there is no definitive safe or harmful verdict. Could they be safe? Yes. Could they be harmful? Yes. Obviously the jury is still out because studies are still being done on the subject.
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      megpie41 wrote: »
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      He clearly states at the beginning of his post it is why he "personally believes" it is safe:

      "Wanted to clear some things up about aspartame if I could just to explain why I personally believe there is absolutely no reason to fear aspartame."

      I'm not arguing the structure...I'm arguing what it all means.

      I've read his post and I see he cited sources, only problem is those sources no longer exist (except for the first one), so one cannot exactly view the source.

      I'm not saying he is wrong. He very well could be right, but it cannot be said for certain that artificial sweeteners are harmless, just in the same way I cannot say for certain that they are harmful. There are studies that are in favor of both sides. That is the point I'm trying to make...there is no definitive safe or harmful verdict. Could they be safe? Yes. Could they be harmful? Yes. Obviously the jury is still out because studies are still being done on the subject.

      You don't know how science works. The scientific consensus on aspartame, internationally, is that it is safe.

      http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.2903/j.efsa.2013.3496/epdf
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      Ericnutrition wrote: »
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      What is wrong with E-cigarettes? I know someone who was a pack to two packs a day smoker for over 20 years, and went cold turkey thanks to E-cigarettes.

      https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm173401.htm
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      I never said e-cigarettes weren't without their merits. They helped someone I know quit smoking and ultimately quit e-cigs. I simply said that the FDA is now questioning their safety and they aren't as "safe" as originally thought.

      And "MAY" in no way implies that they don't. It means exactly what it says...they might be toxic or they might not be. "May" does not definitely mean no...that's just wishful thinking.
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    • Posts: 13 Member
      What's the difference between Coke Zero and Diet Coke - apart from the different label?
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      megpie41 wrote: »
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      I am very familiar with how science works. Just because the science and/or the FDA has approved something as safe now, does not mean they will not retract that and say it is harmful years down the line. Examples:

      Transfats
      Cigarettes
      E-cigarettes
      Countless prescription drugs
      Artificial dyes (not yet proven unsafe by the fda, but many brands are removing them for this very reason)
      Tanning beds/tanning and skin cancer

      The list goes on. As I said, I'm not trying to prove that artificial sweeteners are harmful, I'm simply making the point that you cannot with out a doubt say they are not harmful. If they were 100% safe there would not be these debates on the subject.

      You can honestly tell me that without a doubt, aspartame is not harmful?

      And maybe down the line they tell you exercise kills you earlier and vegetables give you cancer. If you go by that you can shoot yourself in the head immediately because anything deemed safe or good could at some point be shown to have caveats.

      The consensus, given all available research over the past 50+ years is that they're safe. Also cigarettes were never actually thought as good for you, those were advertising campaigns like "9 out of 10 dentists would recommend THIS toothpaste." that you get today.
    • Posts: 1,433 Member
      CarlDuffin1 wrote: »
      What's the difference between Coke Zero and Diet Coke - apart from the different label?

      They taste different to me. Coke zero tastes much better.
    • Posts: 30,886 Member
      edited September 2017
      CarlDuffin1 wrote: »
      What's the difference between Coke Zero and Diet Coke - apart from the different label?

      They taste different. I like diet Coke and cannot stand Coke Zero. (The latter may taste more like actual Coke, which I also hate.)

      I guess Coke Zero is now Coke Zero Sugar? I saw someone buying a 6 pack the other day.
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      lemurcat12 wrote: »
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      They taste different. I like diet Coke and cannot stand Coke Zero. (The latter may taste more like actual Coke, which I also hate.)

      I guess Coke Zero is now Coke Zero Sugar? I saw someone buying a 6 pack the other day.

      Quite right. Regular coke and Coke zero taste like chewing aluminum foil.
    • Posts: 646 Member
      Diet Coke is my addiction. I have to actively ration how much of it I drink. It's great that it doesn't have calories but beware; personally, when I have it, I ALWAYS want something sweet soon after. I also find that I eat more when I drink soda. Just giving you the heads up.
    • Posts: 5,283 Member
      Guess it just goes to show we're all different. I drink about 2 litres of the stuff a day and, if anything, it curbs my hunger. I've got more of a salt tooth than a sweet one and haven't noticed any cravings.
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      edited September 2017
      Ericnutrition wrote: »
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      There are YouTube videos from the 1950's where they tell you that more doctors smoke Camels (I think it's Camels) than any other cigarette. The magazines were loaded with these ads.

      The first warnings on packages (cigarette smoking MAY be hazardous to your health) were added I believe in 1964.

      Another favorite - A Flintstones commercial for Winston cigarettes. It's on YouTube.


      That doesn't mean that actual doctors or scientists or for that matter, ordinary people actually believed cigarettes were good for you.

      That's almost as popular a myth as the "ancient peoples were stupid and actually believed the earth was flat until Columbus bravely proved otherwise"... which is also false.
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    • Posts: 8,911 Member
      Ericnutrition wrote: »
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      There are YouTube videos from the 1950's where they tell you that more doctors smoke Camels (I think it's Camels) than any other cigarette. The magazines were loaded with these ads.

      The first warnings on packages (cigarette smoking MAY be hazardous to your health) were added I believe in 1964.

      Another favorite - A Flintstones commercial for Winston cigarettes. It's on YouTube.


      As I said, those are advertising campaings à la "9 out of 10 dentists recommend THIS". It's just advertising.
    • Posts: 3,529 Member
      edited September 2017
      Drink in moderation, like anything else. I know a lot of people who are addicted to caffeinated soda.

      A strict nutritionist would likely recommend sticking to beverages that are not adulterated in a laboratory, such as water and 100% juice. The phosphoric acid used in Diet Coke personally riles up my acid reflux and heartburn.
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    • Posts: 228 Member
      Friend or foe... It's interesting. I think it depends on how much it is in your life. People are great friends unless they are too much in your life. Once they start hanging around too much they become foes pretty quickly. I imagine the same with diet coke - one every other day is probably just fine. Four a day is a definite problem.
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