Need to Lose 100 LBS -Robins Thread !
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Goal179 - I have lost 50 pounds. And I did it using MFP. Around 2012, I got down to 200 and a size 14. Still have those jeans. Looking forward to the amazing feeling of being able to fit them again!
I lost the weight by tracking, eating 1200 calories a day and exercising almost every day. I pretty much cut out bread and pasta -- but getting to that point took time. Initially, I aimed to meet the 1200 calories. Then I focused in on meeting carb, fat, calcium, protein goals.
My all time high weight was 265. When I started MFP I was around 250. When I first started logging my food I found I was eating like 4000 calories a day, even more someimtes. I was shocked. I know that 2000 calories a day is the norm.
Over the course of six months I got down to 200, as I mentioned, by eating 1200 calories and exercising almost daily. That was five years ago.
Went back up to 235 in 2013. Then down to 226, which I maintained since about 2015. Started back with MFP this spring.
I am now 219. (a month ago I was 210).
I did not go from 4000 calories a day to 1200 calories a day overnight. It took me a couple of months. Clearly, the issue is hunger pangs.
I started by drinking water when I get hungry. I also chew on ice. The chewing is satisfying. I also like carrots because of the crunch. I've learned that protein satisfies hunger more than fruits. I've learned that berries and citrus are better fruits to eat than others -- lower on the glycemic index (less sugar) I eat an apple and 20 almonds at 4PM religiously. Something else I learned to do.
I learned from nutritionists. Nutritionists have provided me with great guidance. But not all nutritionists are the same. I prefer someone who will review my MFP log and talk to me about how to tweak it.
My current settings are: 1200 calories, I track carbs, fat, protein, fiber and calcium. My goals are: 45% carbs, 25% fat, 30% protein. There's no goal for calcium (I just noticed)
Again, these settings were provided by my nutritionist who actually went into my phone/MFP and set them for me.
Having a nutritionist who is on board with MFP is fantastic. I didn't know she would do that when I signed up with her. But its a huge bonus. I see the nutritionist once every three weeks. Since I've went awol in August, and gained back 10 pounds, I haven't seen her. She reached out and I just haven't been back. So that's not good.
Weight loss is challenging. Why we overeat is the issue. There's an author, Geneen Roth, who writes books on this topic. They're worth a look, if you like to gather info that way. I am highly analytical. She talks about emotional eating. Quite interesting.
Anyway, long answer... I'll stop here.
Welcome aboard. Stay plugged in here. This post alone was quite cathartic for me.
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@happygirlxxx - feeling your pain, GF. Yes, it happens to me too. Here's how the convo in my head goes when that happens (and no, I don't really suffer from split personality disorder, but it often feels that way):
Me: you've fallen off the wagon again, you stupid cow. WTF is wrong with you? The wagon is so far away now and has left you in the dust. No way to get back on. And also where the heck are my cookies?
MS: You know what to do! Tomorrow morning, first thing, you're going to get up and hitch up the dog. Then you're gonna go for your brisk 4-mi walk and get those endorphins moving. Afterwards you're going to get on track and eat the way you know to eat for the day that's good and healthy for your body.
Me: tomorrow's gonna suck...
MS: Yes, it will. That first day always sucks. You will feel crappy from sugar withdrawal and you're gonna hate the exercise. BUT afterwards you'll love having done it, and you will start to feel better. The second day you'll feel GREAT and you'll feel proud of yourself! That will be your reward!
And that's the way it goes. It is always, always hard to get motivated to find that wagon again after a binge. I have found that I can't wait for "magic moments." The power is within myself, no one and nothing else. I know I can't wait to find the motivation - I have to CREATE it! I am the only one in charge of BOTH of my heads and getting them to cooperate. The first day I always have to white knuckle through. The second day - and thereafter - is much better, sometimes even great.
So yes, I am a binge eater and periodically I will fall off the wagon. I have come to accept that about myself and know it's going to happen. But now it only happens for a day or two, rather than YEARS (which is how I got to weigh over 300 lbs). I no longer allow it to go for more than two days - then, on the third day at most, I do that white knuckle thing and find another wagon to jump on.
YOU CAN DO THIS!! You've done it before - you know what to do. And you will!!! Cheering you on, my friend - today is the day!
And the weight you've gained WILL come off quickly once your sodium intake decreases. FYI - I weighed 187.6 on Tuesday. Yesterday, on Wednesday, I was at 185.0. Today I am at 182.4 - for no other reason other than sodium. So don't become discouraged by what the scale says every day (or every week), just use it as the tool that it is and keep on doing what you know is right.
Sending hugs and best wishes,
Birgit
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@goal179 - I have lost 120 lbs since April 2016. My eating plan was, and continues to be, to stay within my daily MFP calorie allotment. My only form of exercise is walking the dog. When I started 1.5 year ago, I walked - slowly - up and down the street a little bit. As I lost weight, the distance got longer and the pace got faster. Now I walk 4 miles daily and it takes us (me and my dog) exactly one hour. I use a Fitbit and it calculates my steps, mileage, and calories burned. I do not eat back my exercise calories.
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SO I am new to this site but I think it may be very helpful. I see Thursdays are "fess up" days so I am going to say that I have fallen off the wagon. Well haven't really started. Just Struggling.
My positive is that I know with some hard work I can do this and I know all of you can as well. There is always a way.2 -
FALL CHALLENGE
Name: cellosmiles
Age: 37
Height: 5'3"
Start Weight (as of Sept. 16th): 230
Goal Weight (for Nov. 18th): 223
Weigh in Weeks (listed by Wednesdays)
1. Sept. 20: 229
2. Sept. 27: 226
3. Oct. 4: 229
4. Oct. 11:
5. Oct. 18:
6. Oct. 25:
7. Nov. 1:
8. Nov. 8:
9. Nov. 15:
Final Weigh in: Nov. 18:
Weight -/+ this week: +3
Total weight -/+ this challenge: -1
Total overall weight lost this year: -21
Total lost from highest recorded: -280 -
FALL CHALLENGE
Name: Jo
Age: 47
Height:161 cm
Start Weight (as of Sept. 16th):167.6
Goal Weight (for Nov. 18th): 158.6
Weigh in Weeks (listed by Wednesdays)
1. Sept. 20: 165.5
2. Sept. 27: 164.3
3. Oct. 4: 170.6
4. Oct. 11:
5. Oct. 18:
6. Oct. 25:
7. Nov. 1:
8. Nov. 8:
9. Nov. 15:
Final Weigh in: Nov. 18:
Weight -/+ this week:...................plus 6.3
Total weight -/+ this challenge:....plus 3
Total overall weight lost so far:......62.2
Well.
I am going to kick next week's butt.
@b_liseaux, thanks for your comment. Well it probably is a little water weight because of bad choices, a little because my period is within the next week (I just noticed the date) and a little actual gain because let's face it ... I ate terribly for 6 days) But it just teaches me, and underlines the fact that one cheat day is really hard to recover from... it just snowballs... so I should avoid them at all costs.
@birgit .. Today is the first day of being back on the wagon and I feel satiated. I plan to feel better starting tomorrow morning! because seriously , the bad eating just made me feel bloated and terrible the next day.
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Thursday Truth
Having a rough day. Totally unmotivated to do anything that I would consider progress or stay on track. I'm mentally exhausted. Hope tomorrow will be better. I have a long weekend coming up.
I did, however, get my workout in but cut it short. Just not feeling it.1 -
HELLO. I am new to the group. So happy to be here. I am in need of losing 100 pounds. I am very sad to say it but tht's where I am. I am so excited to know that I am not alone and there are others who have this same long road ahead of them.
I would like to ask two questions...
1) Is there anyone who is already down 40-50-60 pounds? If so, what has been your primary eating plan?
2) Is there anyone who is doing nothing but light walking for exercise?
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Welcome!
Take a look at the bottom of each person's Fall Challenge posts, we generally have added total weight lost.
One member is already at maintenance ,Birgit, but still posts Which is great for us because we see It CAN be done!!
I may be struggling this week but in general I am doing ok. Keeping carbs at under 100 is always better for me, and getting fiber up (25 to 30). I am 5 foot 3, and I started at about 233 pounds. I ate between 1200 and 1400 calories for the first months and I was very strict with myself (then I found summer difficult and became more lax, oops)
I have learned to eat healthy fats like avocado and olive oil( they are good for the body) and avoid processed food.
I eat meat, fresh vegetables and cheese.
I plan to exercise because i need to build some muscle, but all me loss so far has just been with some walking (and maybe a few weeks total manual labor).
There are many sites to calculate your calorie needs. Scoobysworkshop.com is a good one. Go input your age height and weight and if you are sedentary (I think most of us are) We are suggested to eat above bmr and below tdee for proper weightloss . I did eat lower in the beginning but the caveat is Being Obese.
and I made sure to get excellent nutrients I ate nothing extraneous at that time.
Also, people who do exercise have told us they calculate the calorie burn and then eat back half those calories.
Good luck, and check in here a lot. This group of people is very helpful.
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Does anyone have a kale suggestion?
I found some growing in the church garden LOL. It is the only thing that grew this year. So i picked a small bag full.
I have never used it before myself. Just had a salad mix with it in there.
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cellosmiles wrote: »Does anyone have a kale suggestion?
I found some growing in the church garden LOL. It is the only thing that grew this year. So i picked a small bag full.
I have never used it before myself. Just had a salad mix with it in there.
All suggestions appreciated!
@cellosmiles ... I've used Kale in soups, and also in smoothies. When I use bitter greens such as kale in smoothies I always use an orange in that smoothie .... so more often than not the kale ends up in a soup that also has tomatoes in it.
I've read you can dry the kale in the oven and make kale-chips out of them. Never did it cause I can't eat chips of any kind. (any type of 'chip' snack is a trigger for me to keep eating past done.)1 -
@marieyoung07 ... sorry the first page got you confused. This thread is for people who need to lose at least 100 pounds and is an open thread ... so anyone who wants can post to it. The daily topics are suggestions from what was, at the very beginning, topics of conversation on the different days of the week. We use them still as a source of discussion only be choice or habit.
The part in the middle, that talks about how to bookmark this thread so you can come back to is is incorrect. (The only person who will find the thread under My Discussions is the one who started the thread). So .... if you want to come back, simply click the star symbol near the thread name to bookmark it in MFP. To see your bookmarks is different depending on what equipment you are using to access MFP so I will not discuss that ... but you can find information about it on the help topics in MFP.
OOPs ... just realized the my original answer to your confusion got lost in an improperly posted reply .... and decided to read page 1 again ... and I had to laugh out loud. ... here's why ...
.... At one time, on MFP, threads could only be a certain size before they had to close and a new one opened up. This thread was running for a long time and had regular continuation threads started. The thread originator (RobinsEgg) would sent a personal message to each current member alerting them to the new thread ... I wasn't a part of it at that time so I'm unclear as to why there was a special word being used to gain access ... but I think it had something to do with being able to search for the new thread to find it. .... The interesting thing is that when you read that first page, for me especially: is that I read names of people who still actively post to this thread as of this year. People stop posting for a while, but many come back again. ...3 -
@tdunnegan Throw out or give away those Kisses.
Do not have them in the house, the car, the office, anywhere. I totally agree that sugar is like a drug, or can be, if taken in excess. I do not eliminate it but am really careful about how much I do eat. You've come so far and you certainly don't want to go back. You can kick that sugar high. You've done it before.
@goal179 @verybusybee Welcome! You will love this thread. Everyone is very helpful, supportive & motivational, & are on the same big journey.
@birgitkwood Loved your conversation within your self. I get that. You won't let yourself get too far off track. Look at how far you have come! We all have bad days for one reason or another. It's like you said, it's when days turn into years. I know how that goes, the years part.
@lydiapassthedonuts I hope your day gets better.
@newjax2017 You are being aware of your nutritional macros so right there, you are having a better week than you thought!
Thursday Truth....happy to say I have nothing to fess up about this week so far. I've kept my journal up every day and was under my calories. So far it's been a good week. 3 -
FALL CHALLENGE
Name: Linda
Age: 60
Height: 5ft 2ins
Start Weight (as of Sept. 16th): 294lbs
Goal Weight (for Nov. 18th): 276lbs
Weigh in Weeks (listed by Wednesdays)
1. Sept. 20: 291.5
2. Sept. 27: 291
3. Oct. 4: 291
4. Oct. 11:
5. Oct. 18:
6. Oct. 25:
7. Nov. 1:
8. Nov. 8:
9. Nov. 15:
Final Weigh in: Nov. 18:
Weight -/+ this week: -0 lbs
Total weight -/+ this challenge: -3lbs
Total overall weight lost so far: 31lbs since February '17
Sorry, team, no loss this week, but I have not put any weight on either. What's the bet that tomorrow, there will be a loss? Am I allowed a second go for this week?
Thanks for your comment last week, @bapcarrier, sorry I'm still waiting for that loss!
I have emerged from 10 days of decorating, bedroom and hallway looking smart and clean, and I am feeling great! After years of putting off such dreary DIY on account of painful joints, it is just such a relief to get it done with no pain now! And I found it easier to get up off the floor when painting skirting boards. No athlete at it for sure, but I can almost get up without needing to lean on something.
I have not been overeating normal meals, but by the end of long tiring days, did succumb to ready meals and chocolate. Not vast amounts, but seems enough to keep me at the same weight. I also have had a fair amount of fluid retention in my lower legs, being on my feet or on a step ladder for hours, I assume. My high blood pressure meds have that as a side effect (for which I also have to take a diuretic! Go figure, as you folk say across the pond). Daft, I call it. So I reckon I have a pound or two swooshing around down there, and the "whoosh" will happen soon.
A real pleasure was dragging down a box of clothes from the top of the wardrobe, to find two favourite jackets that I bought in Cape Town several years ago. They are patchwork, but beautifully done and I just love them. Each one unique from the dressmaker, I even contemplated being a UK agent for the shop at one point. I wore one jacket on the plane home, and so many women wanted to know where I had bought it. Sadly I got too big to wear them so regretfully put them away. And now they fit again! I almost cried. When they are cleaned, I will try to remember to photograph them.
There are about 90 messages I have to catch up with on this thread, and loads more in other bookmarked ones, so it will take me a while. And I have to get back to tracking my meals properly, try and shift a few pounds.
I hope everyone is well and making progress, be good to read back and see what you've been doing.
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Thursday Confession:
Today I ordered Indian food. I have not ordered Indian food in months but today I caved. Now 4 hours later, I ate all the food. I was enough for two, maybe three, days. But I ate all of it. Ugh.1 -
HELLO. I am new to the group. So happy to be here. I am in need of losing 100 pounds. I am very sad to say it but tht's where I am. I am so excited to know that I am not alone and there are others who have this same long road ahead of them.
I would like to ask two questions...
1) Is there anyone who is already down 40-50-60 pounds? If so, what has been your primary eating plan?
2) Is there anyone who is doing nothing but light walking for exercise?
Thursday - Truth (got anything you need to fess up to or get off your chest?) The only truth I have to confess right now is that I have been on MFP since 2013 and I am still confused about how many calories I should be eating everyday. I don't want to end up like a biggest loser contestant and lower my MBR so low that i gain all the weight back, but I also want to get this weight off quickly for health reasons.
@Goal179 ,
I am down 94 lbs since New Year's by keeping under my daily calorie target and keeping my post-meal blood sugars stable (I'm a type-2 diabetic) with little to no exercise (maybe once/week walking) but I'm finally feeling decent enough that I'd like to start doing some weight lifting. My food diary is public if you want to look at it--I also include my blood sugar #'s and insulin dosages with my food items at each meal along with what my hunger, craving & out-of-control "evaluations" were so I can track all that stuff in one place.
The only way I was able to get a quick confirmation of how many daily calories I needed to be eating was to have an RMR (Resting Metabolic Rate) test done, which confirmed that the estimated daily calories that MFP (& all other diets and daily calorie estimators) provided me with was about 35% too low for me, which explained (to a substantial degree) why I kept "binge eating" or as I called it at the time "falling off my diet" time and time again. Once I "re-adjusted" my daily calorie goal here on MFP to match my RMR test result, my binge episodes rarely happened (last one was 5/7/2017) and my weight has continued to drop along with my insulin dosages & blood sugar #'s.
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Report for week 3 of Fall Challenge
Unfortunately this week was a tough one for several of our participants. Just remember if it was easy we would all be thin without any struggles at all! In total 19 of us reported in and our total weight loss for the week was 6.3 pounds.
That's a total of 51.3 pounds overall and 21% of of our goal. We have lots of time left to reach our goals, this is only week 3 of 9 so lets see if we can make next week a better week. There must have been a full moon all week, LOL, since so many of us had a problem! When I was a young adult and anything went wrong we always blamed it on the full moon, folklore fun! The two big losers this week (this is one time when being a loser is a really good thing) are Monique with -5.7 and Niki with -4.2, congrats to you both!
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Thursday Truth (Bit of a rant) - I've been dealing with a lot of sicknesses lately. First, I had a really bad IBS flare up that lasted two weeks...and now I caught the flu. This has really affected my eating habits a great deal. My appetite has basically been nonexistent; I've been forcing myself to eat as of late, which is new for me.
I am just really discouraged at the moment with all of this and it's affecting my health. I feel like I'm letting my coworkers down, and myself down. I just want to get over this funk I'm in. I guess I just have to take things one day at a time. I truly enjoy reading everyone's success stories, it gives me hope!
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Thursday Truth - Had to skip breakfast so I could do fasting labs, by the time I got them done, I was starving! Splurged and stopped at Serrano's for lunch, had half a beef fajita taco salad complete with guac & sour cream, and 2 jalapeno poppers with ranch dressing, and unsweet tea with lots of lemons. Then, still feeling the pinch from having to skip a meal, when I went to Sam's Club I decided to buy lunch for my co-workers. I bought a rotisserie chicken, a box of mini-croissants, and a so-indulgent pumpkin cheesecake swirl coffee cake that was to die for. All for $17. Wow! Love Sam's! Anyway, got to work and less than half the people on my team were there. Ended up having 3 pieces of the coffee cake (serving size is 12 slices but I did 16, so tracked 2 pieces rather than 3. Stayed within my sodium and sugar/carbs goal (go figure) but went over on calories and fats. Not that much tho, and the 1st time in awhile, so I'm not going to beat myself up about it. I'm just getting my appetite back tho, so I need to nip this in the bud and keep to my calorie allowance, now that I actually want to eat.
For those of you struggling, I loved what @birgitkwood said about having a conversation with yourself. The key of course is to follow up and actually acting on your own instructions. But once you do, the next day and the next are that much easier, just like she said.
My scale says I'm back down a few lbs, will have to see what happens after today's sodium. I'm barely under my allowance, so lets see what happens tomorrow.
Tracy
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@birgitkwood thanks so much for your post!! This is why I love this group ... there is so much support and everyone understands that this journey is not easy at all. Thank you all for your kind words!
I am feeling better today ... definitively in a better mood! I did my workout 45minutes rowing + 45minutes cycling. I had my brunch as well ... egg whites, sausage, coconut flour bread and cheese; high in good fats and low carbs.
I baked yesterday the bread; its the first time I make it. Its good! Well you do need to like coconut because it definitively taste coconuty
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@happygirlxxx: good to hear that you're feeling better today and great job on the exercise!
Friday Fitness: just completed a 1-hour walk, a total of 5 km and I burned 671 cals. Not quite sure how accurate the calories are, but not really planning on eating them anyway, so I guess it doesn't really matter 2 -
Friday Fitness ... gonna tackle getting the window air conditioners out of the windows today .... It's really getting to be a strength workout to the max for me to handle those units cause I'm not as strong of muscle as I was when I was in the past. Along with moving the units comes the need to move some furniture pieces so I can get at them so it will be an active day today.
@happygirlxxx ... That bread you baked, judging from the photo of it, would last in my home for about 12 hours after it was cut into for the first slice! ... The only bread I can eat without setting off a feeding frenzy, even if made with coconut or almond flour, is old fashioned rye bread ... preferably several days old from baking. That I can have normal servings of just once a day and be happy.
@GOINSTD12 ... What you said about treating yourself to a big breakfast, and then more food, after fasting for blood work sure brought back memories for me. Sometimes that 'deprived' feeling from having to abstain from food for 12-13 hours does weird things to our thinking.
@KristinIsTotesAwesome ... Sorry you are having a hard time of it lately. When we are in a funk it's hard to find anything bright to feel good about. Please try to find one thing that you feel good about. Yesterday I watched an old movie with Sally Fields in it where she was advised to change the focus on the word impossible to I'm possible. Had me thinking that all evening in my head ...
@bapcarrier ... the text editing tools on here could be more ... just more! I was able to go 9 days with my calories in the lose-weight range, but had a high calorie day yesterday, so I think my solid weight loss is in jeopardy this week.
@BarneyRubbleMD ... I asked my doctor about insulin for my type 2 diabetes ... thinking of how well you have been able to lose weight once you got your blood sugars down and wondering about if that would help me to lose weight better also ... but he said no. He wants me to stay on the metformin alone therapy. Bummer. That means I keep struggling with the insulin resistance that make me be Type 2. And I will not go on a Keto diet plan because I like carbs.
@jaedwa1 ... I'll jump on your confession and admit I also like Indian food. Especially that dish that is made of extremely spicy chickpeas.
@Birdygirl15 ... good going, getting that painting project done. I'm still dreaming about it here at my house.
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@happygirlxxx OMG that bread looks delicious!
I have to confess, I'm very much like Niki and if Ana's bread was in my house it would be gone in a day. That said, I'm going to Texas Roadhouse today for a late lunch, early dinner, meeting family after my brother in laws lab work. I have allotted myself one roll with 1 Tbsp of cinnamon butter! It's a struggle to hold to that especially if our meal takes a while coming out, the rest is easy, a nice 6 oz sirloin, steamed carrots and mashed potatoes. Everything is already logged, my only worry is being hungry later on as we will be eating about 3Pm and I've only left about 150 calories for a snack later. Probably not time for much exercise today as everyone is coming back here for an evening of card games and maybe Mexican Dominoes. Had an appointment myself this AM and to be honest am all dressed up and don't feel like getting all sweaty exercising, taking another shower and getting ready to go out again. Hopefully, I can make it up tomorrow - I have a lot of outside work planned and hope to also start walking again.
I loved all your inspirational posts this week, especially yours, @birgitkwood. It is always great to hear tips from someone who has reached their goal! Thanks.
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Friday check in
The weekend should be nice so there is yard work in my future! I'll mow, prune a few bushes, and straighten up the shed to make room for the lawn furniture. Both of my dogs have become very happy now that I'm, make that we, are walking most days. If I say the "w" word they start dancing around!
Hope everyone is well and planning something fun for the weekend!
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Friday...what am I going to do to prepare for eating this weekend? Well, we are having my daughter's birthday dinner here on Sunday evening and I've already entered it into my tracker so have planned the whole meal and dessert ahead of time. It made me feel in control and not stressed. Love reading everyone's posts/stories/motivation/inspiration. Hope everyone has a great weekend!2
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Friday Fitness
I have really struggled with any kind of activity the past month due to my back hurting. I'd like to report I exercised yesterday (I did quit sooner than planned, but still got 45 minutes in) and I planned a 30-minute workout today and succeeded! I tried Pilates for the first time and enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
Now I'm off to work and have my fingers crossed I get Monday off. This will be a long work weekend for me.
@bapcarrier and @happygirlxxx Enjoy your bread! I would totally eat all of it in one sitting without thinking about it. I love fresh bread!
@anneshields001 Yard work is a great workout, and dogs help keep us going. It's awesome to have a buddy always willing to walk with us.
@ihp2015 Awesome walk! Keep it up!
I hope everyone has a great weekend.
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In case someone is inspired this weekend to bake ... this is where I got the recipe: https://dietdoctor.com/recipes/keto-coconut-flour-bread
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Friday check in:
I started off pretty good today. I decided last night my best bet is to make daily goals I can meet. Today its to get in 10k steps, drink at least 8 glasses of water and stay under my calories. I am not going to worry today about fat and carbs.
I do have a question though. I am thinking of doing Keto or Paleo or at least low carb. Anyone on here do that?1 -
Friday fitness: got back to the gym today. And so far I have been sticking to the elliptical for an hour and slowly increasing the resistance. But I and my muscles are getting bored, so after seeing an article on HIIT, that you can do it with any exercise I decided to try it with the elliptical.. Just do whatever exercise at your max for a short burst then rest and repeat. For beginners max time (mine was 30 sec) then rest for 2x that, intermediate max time = rest time, expert max > rest time. Boy was I sweating and I burned 2x as many calories in the second half of my workout than I did in the first half at a moderate pace. And I wasn't bored!!
But I over ate at lunch and now I feel sick, may skip dinner if I don't feel better. But my body is still bouncing off the walls from my workout so I'm pacing.4
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