This decades “health woo”

mmapags · October 2017

nvmomketo wrote: »

show previous quotes

mmapags wrote: »

GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »

That any single food is to blame for obesity.

The insulin fairy (it's bad science, people).

That sugar is evil.

GMO fear mongering

Keto

Any diet cultism

Paleo

Bullet proof coffee

Definitely the "insulin fairy" as the overarching one of the decade. I see the "sugar is the debil", Keto and Paleo as all subsets of that. Sadly, most of those that bark up the insulin tree don't even really understand what insulin does physiologically and think it stores fat magically. In the end, if you don't have excess energy to store (energy balance), you are going to make fat.

Once someone is Insulin Resistant you have a whole other ball game but insulin wasn't the problem to begin with in most cases. It was the unrestrained overeating and obesity that was caused by that. With a small % of folks with a genetic component, IR doesn't happen to people at a normal body weight/ BMI.

It does, just not as often as among heavy people.

It happened to me. I gained weight after I became prediabetic. One of my dad's 3 siblings had IR. There is no one else in my family with it. TBH, celiac disease and hypothyroidism is way more common in my family.

Yes, as I said, but not clearly because I left out a key word, it does in people with a genetic component but it is a small % of the overall number. Obesity is either the leading factor or the 2nd leading factor of Insulin Resistance. I understand you fit the exception.

mmapags · October 2017

Fuzzipeg wrote: »

Hashimoto's thyroiditis always presents with so called "normal" thyroid panel numbers until the thyroid gland is damaged to the point of failure because the body is mistaking an alien invaders for thyroid cells causing an autoimmune reaction, the body killing itself. Hashimoto's and Graves are only diagnosed when the thyroid antibodies are tested. Doctors are told there is nothing which can be done to prevent the destruction of the thyroid gland but when the triggers are isolated and the body medicated appropriately it is able to behave normally. The triggers in general are particles of food which enter the blood stream from the gut, it goes on to be mistaken as stated above.

There is a world of difference between dietary hypothyroid when the body is deigned adequate nutrition, low iodine, selenium, possible copper and other minerals as well as vitamins to allow the thyroid to function properly, yet the two are treated the same by general medicine. Autoimmune conditions such as Graves, over activity; and Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which can be hyper or hypo, it is only in the later stages when the thyroid gland is well on its way to destruction by over stimulation and erosion that it is constantly hypo.............

The generally accepted norm for thyroid conditions is to think there is only one symptom, weight gain where as there are 300 interrelated issue. The thyroid gland is the only gland which is supposed to keep working when all other glands in the endocrine system around it are having problems. It is the other way about. The thyroid is the piggy in the middle, between the pituitary, adrenals and other glands, it is where their failings show up. Best practice is stated as establishing the status of these additional glands before treating the thyroid gland with synthetic iodine, t4.

100 years ago all mental illness was first treated with natural animal thyroid which contained t3 active and t4 to be converted into t3 thyroid hormones with the addition of selenium and other minerals. Doctors and patients were happy with the results. It was only with the abuse of testing and the intervention of big pharma that NDT was ostracised, on the grounds it was inconsistent. All medications are made to conform with pharmacological standards and it is true that two of the dominant (ndt) Natural Dedicated Thyroid products do have different levels of thyroid hormones, but each product has the active levels clearly marked on the packet. Most persons are told to keep to their brand of heart, kidney, diabetic medication to be sure they keep the same continuity of care, there is nothing different here!

I believe in 10 may be 20 years time thyroid conditions will be seen as the devastating costly threats to health they actually are, as Functional Medicine is saying today. Thyroid problems impact on are impacted on by all hormone production. LOW t3, contributes to respiratory- lung, circulatory- heart, gastrointestinal problems from IBS to diabetes, depending on the patient it can impact on the Gaul bladder, causing Gaul stones. (Many Gaul Bladder removal surgery is needless were the liver, pancreatic and bile production treated correctly, most of us have diets low in bitter tasting foods which make the bile we all need). There are also links into the realms of Chemical Sensitivity and environmental problems. Those of you who are unfortunately blighted by reproductive issues could do better to address endocrine, thyroid, issues which are key to all kinds of reproduction from the common cell to our species including PCOS. Worst of all by far are the numbers of cancers which can be avoided when t3 is good for a life time, particularly endometrial cancers in a younger woman, still menstruating. Endometrial cancer if it were to happen, it should be when the person is of advanced age approaching 80 or more!!

Any use of antibiotics/otc pain relief will damage the gut flora which impacts on the state of the gut lining enabling the under digested foods to enter the blood stream and damage cells from the thyroid to cochleae they can cause tinnitus.

As a hypothyroid person I have read around this subject from free to view hospital medical papers, from most of the Big American Hospitals, to thyroid support sites, Stop the Thyroid Madness, Thyroid UK, other international thyroid support sites and many, many more.

I will even go as far as to say there is a male conspiracy to keep the symptomatic undiagnosed women in ill health struggling because of the general medical professions refusal to reconsider their own dictates'. Functional Medics use the same tests as are generally available, they look to the balance between the endocrine glands and in the case of autoimmune conditions and treat ethically according to the Hippocratic Oath.

Anyone is more than welcome to click, woo. but remember in 10 to 20 years time you will be eating your words.

Thank you

TL/ DNR

Nony_Mouse · October 2017

mmapags wrote: »

show previous quotes

Fuzzipeg wrote: »

Hashimoto's thyroiditis always presents with so called "normal" thyroid panel numbers until the thyroid gland is damaged to the point of failure because the body is mistaking an alien invaders for thyroid cells causing an autoimmune reaction, the body killing itself. Hashimoto's and Graves are only diagnosed when the thyroid antibodies are tested. Doctors are told there is nothing which can be done to prevent the destruction of the thyroid gland but when the triggers are isolated and the body medicated appropriately it is able to behave normally. The triggers in general are particles of food which enter the blood stream from the gut, it goes on to be mistaken as stated above.

There is a world of difference between dietary hypothyroid when the body is deigned adequate nutrition, low iodine, selenium, possible copper and other minerals as well as vitamins to allow the thyroid to function properly, yet the two are treated the same by general medicine. Autoimmune conditions such as Graves, over activity; and Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which can be hyper or hypo, it is only in the later stages when the thyroid gland is well on its way to destruction by over stimulation and erosion that it is constantly hypo.............

The generally accepted norm for thyroid conditions is to think there is only one symptom, weight gain where as there are 300 interrelated issue. The thyroid gland is the only gland which is supposed to keep working when all other glands in the endocrine system around it are having problems. It is the other way about. The thyroid is the piggy in the middle, between the pituitary, adrenals and other glands, it is where their failings show up. Best practice is stated as establishing the status of these additional glands before treating the thyroid gland with synthetic iodine, t4.

100 years ago all mental illness was first treated with natural animal thyroid which contained t3 active and t4 to be converted into t3 thyroid hormones with the addition of selenium and other minerals. Doctors and patients were happy with the results. It was only with the abuse of testing and the intervention of big pharma that NDT was ostracised, on the grounds it was inconsistent. All medications are made to conform with pharmacological standards and it is true that two of the dominant (ndt) Natural Dedicated Thyroid products do have different levels of thyroid hormones, but each product has the active levels clearly marked on the packet. Most persons are told to keep to their brand of heart, kidney, diabetic medication to be sure they keep the same continuity of care, there is nothing different here!

I believe in 10 may be 20 years time thyroid conditions will be seen as the devastating costly threats to health they actually are, as Functional Medicine is saying today. Thyroid problems impact on are impacted on by all hormone production. LOW t3, contributes to respiratory- lung, circulatory- heart, gastrointestinal problems from IBS to diabetes, depending on the patient it can impact on the Gaul bladder, causing Gaul stones. (Many Gaul Bladder removal surgery is needless were the liver, pancreatic and bile production treated correctly, most of us have diets low in bitter tasting foods which make the bile we all need). There are also links into the realms of Chemical Sensitivity and environmental problems. Those of you who are unfortunately blighted by reproductive issues could do better to address endocrine, thyroid, issues which are key to all kinds of reproduction from the common cell to our species including PCOS. Worst of all by far are the numbers of cancers which can be avoided when t3 is good for a life time, particularly endometrial cancers in a younger woman, still menstruating. Endometrial cancer if it were to happen, it should be when the person is of advanced age approaching 80 or more!!

Any use of antibiotics/otc pain relief will damage the gut flora which impacts on the state of the gut lining enabling the under digested foods to enter the blood stream and damage cells from the thyroid to cochleae they can cause tinnitus.

As a hypothyroid person I have read around this subject from free to view hospital medical papers, from most of the Big American Hospitals, to thyroid support sites, Stop the Thyroid Madness, Thyroid UK, other international thyroid support sites and many, many more.

I will even go as far as to say there is a male conspiracy to keep the symptomatic undiagnosed women in ill health struggling because of the general medical professions refusal to reconsider their own dictates'. Functional Medics use the same tests as are generally available, they look to the balance between the endocrine glands and in the case of autoimmune conditions and treat ethically according to the Hippocratic Oath.

Anyone is more than welcome to click, woo. but remember in 10 to 20 years time you will be eating your words.

Thank you

TL/ DNR

Same.

Nony_Mouse · October 2017

Paleo. Though at least we're not seeing the plethora of 'this is how cavemen ate, we should too!' posts that littered the forums a few years ago...

GottaBurnEmAll · October 2017

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

show previous quotes

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

Definitely the pushing of massive quantities of vegetables.

The amount of woos on this post in a matter of minutes proves my point I think. I'm going to be the winner on this one - all of the best fads are the ones everyone buys into.

Sure the gullible will go for things like ACV or cleanses but everyone else knows they're woo. And even as popular as keto and cutting out sugar are right now the majority definitely think it's BS. So much so dieticians have no qualms recommending snack size cans of soda, users create sock puppets to proselytize against keto and most feel comfortable advising others to ignore low carb and low sugar recommendations.

But vegetables? Everyone knows that more is better! Filling up your toilet bowl multiple times a day is a virtue and any discomfort/beano is just the price you pay for being healthy.

You know there are numerous research reviews and longitudinal studies that back up the push to eat 10 servings of veggies a day.

It's not just something random people decided to do in order to feel virtuous.

Your assertions about veggie lovers bowel habits are just weird. And unfounded.

amusedmonkey · October 2017

mmapags wrote: »

show previous quotes

Fuzzipeg wrote: »

Hashimoto's thyroiditis always presents with so called "normal" thyroid panel numbers until the thyroid gland is damaged to the point of failure because the body is mistaking an alien invaders for thyroid cells causing an autoimmune reaction, the body killing itself. Hashimoto's and Graves are only diagnosed when the thyroid antibodies are tested. Doctors are told there is nothing which can be done to prevent the destruction of the thyroid gland but when the triggers are isolated and the body medicated appropriately it is able to behave normally. The triggers in general are particles of food which enter the blood stream from the gut, it goes on to be mistaken as stated above.

There is a world of difference between dietary hypothyroid when the body is deigned adequate nutrition, low iodine, selenium, possible copper and other minerals as well as vitamins to allow the thyroid to function properly, yet the two are treated the same by general medicine. Autoimmune conditions such as Graves, over activity; and Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which can be hyper or hypo, it is only in the later stages when the thyroid gland is well on its way to destruction by over stimulation and erosion that it is constantly hypo.............

The generally accepted norm for thyroid conditions is to think there is only one symptom, weight gain where as there are 300 interrelated issue. The thyroid gland is the only gland which is supposed to keep working when all other glands in the endocrine system around it are having problems. It is the other way about. The thyroid is the piggy in the middle, between the pituitary, adrenals and other glands, it is where their failings show up. Best practice is stated as establishing the status of these additional glands before treating the thyroid gland with synthetic iodine, t4.

100 years ago all mental illness was first treated with natural animal thyroid which contained t3 active and t4 to be converted into t3 thyroid hormones with the addition of selenium and other minerals. Doctors and patients were happy with the results. It was only with the abuse of testing and the intervention of big pharma that NDT was ostracised, on the grounds it was inconsistent. All medications are made to conform with pharmacological standards and it is true that two of the dominant (ndt) Natural Dedicated Thyroid products do have different levels of thyroid hormones, but each product has the active levels clearly marked on the packet. Most persons are told to keep to their brand of heart, kidney, diabetic medication to be sure they keep the same continuity of care, there is nothing different here!

I believe in 10 may be 20 years time thyroid conditions will be seen as the devastating costly threats to health they actually are, as Functional Medicine is saying today. Thyroid problems impact on are impacted on by all hormone production. LOW t3, contributes to respiratory- lung, circulatory- heart, gastrointestinal problems from IBS to diabetes, depending on the patient it can impact on the Gaul bladder, causing Gaul stones. (Many Gaul Bladder removal surgery is needless were the liver, pancreatic and bile production treated correctly, most of us have diets low in bitter tasting foods which make the bile we all need). There are also links into the realms of Chemical Sensitivity and environmental problems. Those of you who are unfortunately blighted by reproductive issues could do better to address endocrine, thyroid, issues which are key to all kinds of reproduction from the common cell to our species including PCOS. Worst of all by far are the numbers of cancers which can be avoided when t3 is good for a life time, particularly endometrial cancers in a younger woman, still menstruating. Endometrial cancer if it were to happen, it should be when the person is of advanced age approaching 80 or more!!

Any use of antibiotics/otc pain relief will damage the gut flora which impacts on the state of the gut lining enabling the under digested foods to enter the blood stream and damage cells from the thyroid to cochleae they can cause tinnitus.

As a hypothyroid person I have read around this subject from free to view hospital medical papers, from most of the Big American Hospitals, to thyroid support sites, Stop the Thyroid Madness, Thyroid UK, other international thyroid support sites and many, many more.

I will even go as far as to say there is a male conspiracy to keep the symptomatic undiagnosed women in ill health struggling because of the general medical professions refusal to reconsider their own dictates'. Functional Medics use the same tests as are generally available, they look to the balance between the endocrine glands and in the case of autoimmune conditions and treat ethically according to the Hippocratic Oath.

Anyone is more than welcome to click, woo. but remember in 10 to 20 years time you will be eating your words.

Thank you

TL/ DNR

Cliffsnotes: Big Pharma doesn't want you to get the right treatment, and men want to keep women from being diagnosed with hypothyroid.

russelljam08 · October 2017

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

show previous quotes

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

Definitely the pushing of massive quantities of vegetables.

The amount of woos on this post in a matter of minutes proves my point I think. I'm going to be the winner on this one - all of the best fads are the ones everyone buys into.

Sure the gullible will go for things like ACV or cleanses but everyone else knows they're woo. And even as popular as keto and cutting out sugar are right now the majority definitely think it's BS. So much so dieticians have no qualms recommending snack size cans of soda, users create sock puppets to proselytize against keto and most feel comfortable advising others to ignore low carb and low sugar recommendations.

But vegetables? Everyone knows that more is better! Filling up your toilet bowl multiple times a day is a virtue and any discomfort/beano is just the price you pay for being healthy.

Spewing oil-filled diarrhea is better? I didn't think being regular was a bad thing

Nony_Mouse · October 2017

amusedmonkey wrote: »

show previous quotes

mmapags wrote: »

Fuzzipeg wrote: »

Hashimoto's thyroiditis always presents with so called "normal" thyroid panel numbers until the thyroid gland is damaged to the point of failure because the body is mistaking an alien invaders for thyroid cells causing an autoimmune reaction, the body killing itself. Hashimoto's and Graves are only diagnosed when the thyroid antibodies are tested. Doctors are told there is nothing which can be done to prevent the destruction of the thyroid gland but when the triggers are isolated and the body medicated appropriately it is able to behave normally. The triggers in general are particles of food which enter the blood stream from the gut, it goes on to be mistaken as stated above.

There is a world of difference between dietary hypothyroid when the body is deigned adequate nutrition, low iodine, selenium, possible copper and other minerals as well as vitamins to allow the thyroid to function properly, yet the two are treated the same by general medicine. Autoimmune conditions such as Graves, over activity; and Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which can be hyper or hypo, it is only in the later stages when the thyroid gland is well on its way to destruction by over stimulation and erosion that it is constantly hypo.............

The generally accepted norm for thyroid conditions is to think there is only one symptom, weight gain where as there are 300 interrelated issue. The thyroid gland is the only gland which is supposed to keep working when all other glands in the endocrine system around it are having problems. It is the other way about. The thyroid is the piggy in the middle, between the pituitary, adrenals and other glands, it is where their failings show up. Best practice is stated as establishing the status of these additional glands before treating the thyroid gland with synthetic iodine, t4.

100 years ago all mental illness was first treated with natural animal thyroid which contained t3 active and t4 to be converted into t3 thyroid hormones with the addition of selenium and other minerals. Doctors and patients were happy with the results. It was only with the abuse of testing and the intervention of big pharma that NDT was ostracised, on the grounds it was inconsistent. All medications are made to conform with pharmacological standards and it is true that two of the dominant (ndt) Natural Dedicated Thyroid products do have different levels of thyroid hormones, but each product has the active levels clearly marked on the packet. Most persons are told to keep to their brand of heart, kidney, diabetic medication to be sure they keep the same continuity of care, there is nothing different here!

I believe in 10 may be 20 years time thyroid conditions will be seen as the devastating costly threats to health they actually are, as Functional Medicine is saying today. Thyroid problems impact on are impacted on by all hormone production. LOW t3, contributes to respiratory- lung, circulatory- heart, gastrointestinal problems from IBS to diabetes, depending on the patient it can impact on the Gaul bladder, causing Gaul stones. (Many Gaul Bladder removal surgery is needless were the liver, pancreatic and bile production treated correctly, most of us have diets low in bitter tasting foods which make the bile we all need). There are also links into the realms of Chemical Sensitivity and environmental problems. Those of you who are unfortunately blighted by reproductive issues could do better to address endocrine, thyroid, issues which are key to all kinds of reproduction from the common cell to our species including PCOS. Worst of all by far are the numbers of cancers which can be avoided when t3 is good for a life time, particularly endometrial cancers in a younger woman, still menstruating. Endometrial cancer if it were to happen, it should be when the person is of advanced age approaching 80 or more!!

Any use of antibiotics/otc pain relief will damage the gut flora which impacts on the state of the gut lining enabling the under digested foods to enter the blood stream and damage cells from the thyroid to cochleae they can cause tinnitus.

As a hypothyroid person I have read around this subject from free to view hospital medical papers, from most of the Big American Hospitals, to thyroid support sites, Stop the Thyroid Madness, Thyroid UK, other international thyroid support sites and many, many more.

I will even go as far as to say there is a male conspiracy to keep the symptomatic undiagnosed women in ill health struggling because of the general medical professions refusal to reconsider their own dictates'. Functional Medics use the same tests as are generally available, they look to the balance between the endocrine glands and in the case of autoimmune conditions and treat ethically according to the Hippocratic Oath.

Anyone is more than welcome to click, woo. but remember in 10 to 20 years time you will be eating your words.

Thank you

TL/ DNR

Cliffsnotes: Big Pharma doesn't want you to get the right treatment, and men want to keep women from being diagnosed with hypothyroid.

Thank you for taking one for the team

mph323 · October 2017

amusedmonkey wrote: »

show previous quotes

mmapags wrote: »

Fuzzipeg wrote: »

Hashimoto's thyroiditis always presents with so called "normal" thyroid panel numbers until the thyroid gland is damaged to the point of failure because the body is mistaking an alien invaders for thyroid cells causing an autoimmune reaction, the body killing itself. Hashimoto's and Graves are only diagnosed when the thyroid antibodies are tested. Doctors are told there is nothing which can be done to prevent the destruction of the thyroid gland but when the triggers are isolated and the body medicated appropriately it is able to behave normally. The triggers in general are particles of food which enter the blood stream from the gut, it goes on to be mistaken as stated above.

There is a world of difference between dietary hypothyroid when the body is deigned adequate nutrition, low iodine, selenium, possible copper and other minerals as well as vitamins to allow the thyroid to function properly, yet the two are treated the same by general medicine. Autoimmune conditions such as Graves, over activity; and Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which can be hyper or hypo, it is only in the later stages when the thyroid gland is well on its way to destruction by over stimulation and erosion that it is constantly hypo.............

The generally accepted norm for thyroid conditions is to think there is only one symptom, weight gain where as there are 300 interrelated issue. The thyroid gland is the only gland which is supposed to keep working when all other glands in the endocrine system around it are having problems. It is the other way about. The thyroid is the piggy in the middle, between the pituitary, adrenals and other glands, it is where their failings show up. Best practice is stated as establishing the status of these additional glands before treating the thyroid gland with synthetic iodine, t4.

100 years ago all mental illness was first treated with natural animal thyroid which contained t3 active and t4 to be converted into t3 thyroid hormones with the addition of selenium and other minerals. Doctors and patients were happy with the results. It was only with the abuse of testing and the intervention of big pharma that NDT was ostracised, on the grounds it was inconsistent. All medications are made to conform with pharmacological standards and it is true that two of the dominant (ndt) Natural Dedicated Thyroid products do have different levels of thyroid hormones, but each product has the active levels clearly marked on the packet. Most persons are told to keep to their brand of heart, kidney, diabetic medication to be sure they keep the same continuity of care, there is nothing different here!

I believe in 10 may be 20 years time thyroid conditions will be seen as the devastating costly threats to health they actually are, as Functional Medicine is saying today. Thyroid problems impact on are impacted on by all hormone production. LOW t3, contributes to respiratory- lung, circulatory- heart, gastrointestinal problems from IBS to diabetes, depending on the patient it can impact on the Gaul bladder, causing Gaul stones. (Many Gaul Bladder removal surgery is needless were the liver, pancreatic and bile production treated correctly, most of us have diets low in bitter tasting foods which make the bile we all need). There are also links into the realms of Chemical Sensitivity and environmental problems. Those of you who are unfortunately blighted by reproductive issues could do better to address endocrine, thyroid, issues which are key to all kinds of reproduction from the common cell to our species including PCOS. Worst of all by far are the numbers of cancers which can be avoided when t3 is good for a life time, particularly endometrial cancers in a younger woman, still menstruating. Endometrial cancer if it were to happen, it should be when the person is of advanced age approaching 80 or more!!

Any use of antibiotics/otc pain relief will damage the gut flora which impacts on the state of the gut lining enabling the under digested foods to enter the blood stream and damage cells from the thyroid to cochleae they can cause tinnitus.

As a hypothyroid person I have read around this subject from free to view hospital medical papers, from most of the Big American Hospitals, to thyroid support sites, Stop the Thyroid Madness, Thyroid UK, other international thyroid support sites and many, many more.

I will even go as far as to say there is a male conspiracy to keep the symptomatic undiagnosed women in ill health struggling because of the general medical professions refusal to reconsider their own dictates'. Functional Medics use the same tests as are generally available, they look to the balance between the endocrine glands and in the case of autoimmune conditions and treat ethically according to the Hippocratic Oath.

Anyone is more than welcome to click, woo. but remember in 10 to 20 years time you will be eating your words.

Thank you

TL/ DNR

Cliffsnotes: Big Pharma doesn't want you to get the right treatment, and men want to keep women from being diagnosed with hypothyroid.

Huh. That's a new one for me. <side-eyes husband>

Unknown · October 2017

This content has been removed.

AlabasterVerve · October 2017

GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »

show previous quotes

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

Definitely the pushing of massive quantities of vegetables.

The amount of woos on this post in a matter of minutes proves my point I think. I'm going to be the winner on this one - all of the best fads are the ones everyone buys into.

Sure the gullible will go for things like ACV or cleanses but everyone else knows they're woo. And even as popular as keto and cutting out sugar are right now the majority definitely think it's BS. So much so dieticians have no qualms recommending snack size cans of soda, users create sock puppets to proselytize against keto and most feel comfortable advising others to ignore low carb and low sugar recommendations.

But vegetables? Everyone knows that more is better! Filling up your toilet bowl multiple times a day is a virtue and any discomfort/beano is just the price you pay for being healthy.

You know there are numerous research reviews and longitudinal studies that back up the push to eat 10 servings of veggies a day.

It's not just something random people decided to do in order to feel virtuous.

Your assertions about veggie lovers bowel habits are just weird. And unfounded.

Yup. There's a study for that is one of the halmarks of good dietary woo. I was joking about the toilet - mostly (bathroom changes/issues are not an unusual topic).

GottaBurnEmAll · October 2017

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

show previous quotes

GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

Definitely the pushing of massive quantities of vegetables.

The amount of woos on this post in a matter of minutes proves my point I think. I'm going to be the winner on this one - all of the best fads are the ones everyone buys into.

Sure the gullible will go for things like ACV or cleanses but everyone else knows they're woo. And even as popular as keto and cutting out sugar are right now the majority definitely think it's BS. So much so dieticians have no qualms recommending snack size cans of soda, users create sock puppets to proselytize against keto and most feel comfortable advising others to ignore low carb and low sugar recommendations.

But vegetables? Everyone knows that more is better! Filling up your toilet bowl multiple times a day is a virtue and any discomfort/beano is just the price you pay for being healthy.

You know there are numerous research reviews and longitudinal studies that back up the push to eat 10 servings of veggies a day.

It's not just something random people decided to do in order to feel virtuous.

Your assertions about veggie lovers bowel habits are just weird. And unfounded.

Yup. There's a study for that is one of the halmarks of good dietary woo. I was joking about the toilet - mostly (bathroom changes/issues are not an unusual topic).

The British government didn't change their recommendations based on a single study.

marelthu · October 2017

mph323 wrote: »

Increased rates of obesity are directly linked to:
Sugar
Carbs
Eating meat
GMOs
Air pollution
Soil depletion
Drugs in the water supply
Alien implants
The government

I'm not sure that the alien implants idea should be dismissed. Sounds very plausible.

sardelsa · October 2017

g_poleman wrote: »

Not sure this fits but I am so over the smug good bodies on here (both boys and girls) who talk as if they only eat ice cream and pizza and as along as they do their "deads" they lose fat and add muscle. A great body is hard work and you do not get it by eating tons of junk food. Also the humble braggers on here make me want to vomit.

I don't know... I just woke up like this

But seriously if it wasn't for ice cream and other "junk" I actually wouldn't look the way I do.

mph323 · October 2017

marelthu wrote: »

show previous quotes

mph323 wrote: »

Increased rates of obesity are directly linked to:
Sugar
Carbs
Eating meat
GMOs
Air pollution
Soil depletion
Drugs in the water supply
Alien implants
The government

I'm not sure that the alien implants idea should be dismissed. Sounds very plausible.

PSA DO NOT forget your tinfoil hat when venturing outdoors.

VintageFeline · October 2017

mph323 wrote: »

show previous quotes

marelthu wrote: »

mph323 wrote: »

Increased rates of obesity are directly linked to:
Sugar
Carbs
Eating meat
GMOs
Air pollution
Soil depletion
Drugs in the water supply
Alien implants
The government

I'm not sure that the alien implants idea should be dismissed. Sounds very plausible.

PSA DO NOT forget your tinfoil hat when venturing outdoors.

Or to the doctor it seems......

Fyreside · October 2017

Gisel2015 wrote: »

Do you also consider diabetes T2 a fad disease ?

All the cool people are doing it..

psuLemon · October 2017

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

show previous quotes

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

Definitely the pushing of massive quantities of vegetables.

The amount of woos on this post in a matter of minutes proves my point I think. I'm going to be the winner on this one - all of the best fads are the ones everyone buys into.

Sure the gullible will go for things like ACV or cleanses but everyone else knows they're woo. And even as popular as keto and cutting out sugar are right now the majority definitely think it's BS. So much so dieticians have no qualms recommending snack size cans of soda, users create sock puppets to proselytize against keto and most feel comfortable advising others to ignore low carb and low sugar recommendations.

But vegetables? Everyone knows that more is better! Filling up your toilet bowl multiple times a day is a virtue and any discomfort/beano is just the price you pay for being healthy.

Maybe it's me, but I haven't seen this. I generally see people recommend ranges of 20-40g of fiber a day, which doesn't take many fruits/veggies to get.

My personal favorite right now is that if you eat carbs, you will only burn carbs and going keto/LCHF will make you a fat burner in the context that eating fat makes you burn body fat faster.

psuLemon · October 2017

Nony_Mouse wrote: »

Paleo. Though at least we're not seeing the plethora of 'this is how cavemen ate, we should too!' posts that littered the forums a few years ago...

It's because that is so 2014 and we have moved on to the next fad driven by nextflix documentaries.

bingo_007 · October 2017

Why is clean eating a health woo? Looking at my childhood diet 70 to 80'percent would be considered clean. I was mostly eating what my mom made. N most things where not processed or just little processed. I never Had a tv Dinner. I still eat this way as I don't like the taste of ready to eat food and convenience food

H_Ock12 · October 2017

MLM cleanses and "Organic" foods.

Unknown · October 2017

This content has been removed.

mmapags · October 2017

bingo_007 wrote: »

Why is clean eating a health woo? Looking at my childhood diet 70 to 80'percent would be considered clean. I was mostly eating what my mom made. N most things where not processed or just little processed. I never Had a tv Dinner. I still eat this way as I don't like the taste of ready to eat food and convenience food

Mainly because there is no universally accepted definition of what "clean eating" is. It is whatever someone want to say it is. And people use the term to suite their own agendas. You have something in mind as to what it may mean but other may not, and likely would not, agree.

stevencloser · October 2017

bingo_007 wrote: »

Why is clean eating a health woo? Looking at my childhood diet 70 to 80'percent would be considered clean. I was mostly eating what my mom made. N most things where not processed or just little processed. I never Had a tv Dinner. I still eat this way as I don't like the taste of ready to eat food and convenience food

70 - 80% clean, or as other people would call it, a normal diet. "Clean eating" is, apart from not having a consistent definition of what constitutes a clean food, not having any of the "unclean" foods because they think they'd drop dead or get fat immediately or something.

lemurcat12 · October 2017

bingo_007 wrote: »

Why is clean eating a health woo? Looking at my childhood diet 70 to 80'percent would be considered clean. I was mostly eating what my mom made. N most things where not processed or just little processed. I never Had a tv Dinner. I still eat this way as I don't like the taste of ready to eat food and convenience food

The term is, and all the rules like "nothing in a package" or whatever, most of which make no sense and having nothing to do with the nutritional content of the food.

Also, the implicit claim (often explicit) that people are fat because they ate foods with "chemicals" instead of because they overate or that everything "processed" (which is a huge and varied category of food) is somehow high cal or low nutrient or has lots of added fat or sugar.

I mostly cook from whole foods, grew up mostly cooking from whole foods, and I even do other things that many so called "clean" eaters don't do, like source my meat and eggs from a local farm, get produce from local farms when in season and try to eat as locally and seasonally as possible from late spring through fall (I'm in Chicago so that does not carry through very late fall through early spring, I'm not going to give up fruits and veg for a large part of the year).

However, I don't call myself a clean eater, think that these preferences make my diet superior (it's just how I like to eat), or worry that I must avoid restaurants (tons of great local restaurants where I live) or buying an occasional lunch from SnapKitchen or wherever or be afraid of processed foods (which includes cheese, plain greek yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, canned tomatoes (better out of season than whatever "fresh" shows up in the grocery store), so on).

It's also the all or nothing thing. One can have a healthful, nutrient dense diet and occasionally have a treat or consume some products that make cooking easier from time to time.

CSARdiver · October 2017

Noel_57 wrote: »

I vote for hypothyroid. The ultimate fad disease. Just about everyone here claims they have it, and blame their weight problem on it.

I'm sans thyroid and I agree.

Thyroid only impacts your Resting Energy Expenditure ~5%. That's all people.

Thyroid behaving or not - eating more than you burn makes you fat.

jdlobb · October 2017

anti-GMO hysteria will go down in history as not just anti-science nonsense, but a fatal ideology that resulted in millions of unnecessary deaths.

NorthCascades · October 2017

Keto.

vingogly · October 2017

Fuzzipeg wrote: »

... I will even go as far as to say there is a male conspiracy to keep the symptomatic undiagnosed women in ill health struggling because of the general medical professions refusal to reconsider their own dictates'. ...

Yeah, we men are a real bunch of pigs, aren't we? This started out as a fun thread but quickly descended into nonsense and self-proclaimed "experts" clubbing people over the head with their "knowledge". And now, feminist politics. Whatever you people are smoking, I want some.

kristen8000 · October 2017

I'd say ACV and Egg Fasts are the 2 things that define this year...I'm not sure about the decade. Maybe fasting in general. Intermittent, water, egg, etc.

What I have been noticing more lately is that people are not blaming weight gain on the right things. It's either too many carbs, some random disease, etc. I hate to be blunt, but it's because everyone eats TOO much. We as a society, put way too much importance on food. We celebrate with it, we gift it, restaurants serve WAY too much of it...we raise our kids to "clean their plates"...we value that "full" feeling.

This decades “health woo”

Replies

Welcome!

Quick Links

Categories