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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Why does someone have to have done yoga to see that certain poses would require lots of strength and flexibility and hard work?
Oh no, you're ABSOLUTELY right, they don't. I never said or implied that was necessary. It was her snide comment in her original post with the photos that got me. 'Come talk to us.' Who is the 'us' since it can't be you because you don't even do yoga. It rubbed me the wrong way when I read it but I let it go initially until she said she doesn't even do it.
I don't do yoga..no I don't...I have done yoga tho and my husband does it and I have a very good friend who is amazing at it and another who is an instructor.
and did you not read where I said I Have tried and succeed in some of the harder poses such as flamingo even as a beginner.
not sure why me not actively pursuing yoga has anything to do with the validity of my statements...
I understand it is difficult and have tried some of those poses hence why I know it takes a lot of strength to do (which you discount apparently) and was surprised at the fact I am going ot have to really up my game if I want to do them.
you want snide...how about "yoga isn't really exercise"...now that is a slap in the face for those who know how hard it can be.2 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Why does someone have to have done yoga to see that certain poses would require lots of strength and flexibility and hard work?
Oh no, you're ABSOLUTELY right, they don't. I never said or implied that was necessary. It was her snide comment in her original post with the photos that got me. 'Come talk to us.' Who is the 'us' since it can't be you because you don't even do yoga. It rubbed me the wrong way when I read it but I let it go initially until she said she doesn't even do it.
I don't do yoga..no I don't...I have done yoga tho and my husband does it and I have a very good friend who is amazing at it and another who is an instructor.
and did you not read where I said I Have tried and succeed in some of the harder poses such as flamingo even as a beginner.
not sure why me not actively pursuing yoga has anything to do with the validity of my statements...
I understand it is difficult and have tried some of those poses hence why I know it takes a lot of strength to do (which you discount apparently) and was surprised at the fact I am going ot have to really up my game if I want to do them.
you want snide...how about "yoga isn't really exercise"...now that is a slap in the face for those who know how hard it can be.
You mean posting an unpopular opinion in a thread about unpopular opinions is snide? Weird.5 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Why does someone have to have done yoga to see that certain poses would require lots of strength and flexibility and hard work?
Oh no, you're ABSOLUTELY right, they don't. I never said or implied that was necessary. It was her snide comment in her original post with the photos that got me. 'Come talk to us.' Who is the 'us' since it can't be you because you don't even do yoga. It rubbed me the wrong way when I read it but I let it go initially until she said she doesn't even do it.
I don't do yoga..no I don't...I have done yoga tho and my husband does it and I have a very good friend who is amazing at it and another who is an instructor.
and did you not read where I said I Have tried and succeed in some of the harder poses such as flamingo even as a beginner.
not sure why me not actively pursuing yoga has anything to do with the validity of my statements...
I understand it is difficult and have tried some of those poses hence why I know it takes a lot of strength to do (which you discount apparently) and was surprised at the fact I am going ot have to really up my game if I want to do them.
you want snide...how about "yoga isn't really exercise"...now that is a slap in the face for those who know how hard it can be.
You mean posting an unpopular opinion in a thread about unpopular opinions is snide? Weird.
posting Yoga isn't really an exercise could be considered snide to those who know better yes...just because it's in the correct thread doesn't negate it being snide.
Exercise by definition is something done to increase the health and/or fitness of a person...so in essence Yoga is a "true" exercise as it is done for those two reasons exclusively.2 -
Unpopular opinion: Yoga is boring
Categorically false statement: Yoga is not exercise and doesn't burn calories
You can't just make a factually incorrect statement and call it an opinion. Facts are not subject to subjective opinions.15 -
Unpopular opinion: Yoga is boring
Categorically false statement: Yoga is not exercise and doesn't burn calories
You can't just make a factually incorrect statement and call it an opinion. Facts are not subject to subjective opinions.
I specifically wrote that that's what I thought, not at all that it was a fact. And what I think IS my opinion.10 -
Unpopular opinion: Yoga is boring
Categorically false statement: Yoga is not exercise and doesn't burn calories
You can't just make a factually incorrect statement and call it an opinion. Facts are not subject to subjective opinions.
I specifically wrote that that's what I thought, not at all that it was a fact. And what I think IS my opinion.
You also said it doesn't burn any calories. What if I had the "opinion" that almonds had zero calories, would you be like "great, that is your opinion" no because it is false.13 -
We do Iyengar yoga.
I say we because me and SO started doing it together about 2yr ago, at his suggestion.
He is a runner and swimmer (and occasional triathlete) , and lacks flexibility; I do a bit of everything (Pilates, aquafit, Zumba, etc and lift) and am quite flexible because of this.
I don't break a sweat doing the yoga, but really get a good stretch.
SO is dripping in sweat and totally challenged, still. His flexibility has improved so much he can touch his toes for the first time in his adult life.
I don't know how you are defining exercise, but for me, in general, if it is purposful movement (outside daily activity) to help improve my health, it is exercise.
Oh and for me it took weeks for my body and mind to slow down enough to work on the subtlety of the pose; SO not so much because everything was so challenging.
Cheers, h.8 -
Unpopular opinion: Yoga is boring
Categorically false statement: Yoga is not exercise and doesn't burn calories
You can't just make a factually incorrect statement and call it an opinion. Facts are not subject to subjective opinions.
I specifically wrote that that's what I thought, not at all that it was a fact. And what I think IS my opinion.
that's my point. You made a statement of fact, but called it an opinion. Calling something an opinion doesn't make it so. All that it means is that you are ignoring objective truth and substituting it with your favored reality.
Yoga is objectively exercise, and it objectively burns calories.
You can't have an opinion that it does neither, you can only incorrectly believe they are not true.7 -
Unpopular opinion: Yoga is boring
Categorically false statement: Yoga is not exercise and doesn't burn calories
You can't just make a factually incorrect statement and call it an opinion. Facts are not subject to subjective opinions.
I specifically wrote that that's what I thought, not at all that it was a fact. And what I think IS my opinion.
that's my point. You made a statement of fact, but called it an opinion. Calling something an opinion doesn't make it so. All that it means is that you are ignoring objective truth and substituting it with your favored reality.
Yoga is objectively exercise, and it objectively burns calories.
You can't have an opinion that it does neither, you can only incorrectly believe they are not true.
Semantics. If that's your opinion on my opinion, then that's what it is.9 -
Why would you chose to believe something that is objectively false?4
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I should really really do more yoga and I have a friend who is always trying to encourage me. I get it, I get why it's good for me, I would like to get more of my flexibility back but I have tried quite a few varieties and it's just a yawnfest for me. I think because I am stuck in the middle, not strong enough for the super cool stuff and too impatient to put in the work to get there. I need to get over myself.
The fact that I am naturally very supple doesn't help, adds to the meh attitude. I can already fold flat onto my thighs, why bother? But then there's the bit of me that's like, come on, we want our oversplit back! Oh human brains.
I think anything that purposefully moves the body through an unusual range of movement or at a speed not generally used day to day can be counted as exercise. And also purposefully walking. If it is contributing to your longevity and health it's exercise. Flexibility is a huge part of ageing well.6 -
VintageFeline wrote: »I should really really do more yoga and I have a friend who is always trying to encourage me. I get it, I get why it's good for me, I would like to get more of my flexibility back but I have tried quite a few varieties and it's just a yawnfest for me. I think because I am stuck in the middle, not strong enough for the super cool stuff and too impatient to put in the work to get there. I need to get over myself.
The fact that I am naturally very supple doesn't help, adds to the meh attitude. I can already fold flat onto my thighs, why bother? But then there's the bit of me that's like, come on, we want our oversplit back! Oh human brains.
I think anything that purposefully moves the body through an unusual range of movement or at a speed not generally used day to day can be counted as exercise. And also purposefully walking. If it is contributing to your longevity and health it's exercise. Flexibility is a huge part of ageing well.
This totally explains my feelings too...
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VintageFeline wrote: »I should really really do more yoga and I have a friend who is always trying to encourage me. I get it, I get why it's good for me, I would like to get more of my flexibility back but I have tried quite a few varieties and it's just a yawnfest for me. I think because I am stuck in the middle, not strong enough for the super cool stuff and too impatient to put in the work to get there. I need to get over myself.
The fact that I am naturally very supple doesn't help, adds to the meh attitude. I can already fold flat onto my thighs, why bother? But then there's the bit of me that's like, come on, we want our oversplit back! Oh human brains.
I think anything that purposefully moves the body through an unusual range of movement or at a speed not generally used day to day can be counted as exercise. And also purposefully walking. If it is contributing to your longevity and health it's exercise. Flexibility is a huge part of ageing well.
yeah, exercise is just something done purposefully with the intention of improving one's self physically.1 -
I don't think yoga is real exercise or actually burns any calories.
Try this 60-minute Vinyasa practice and, afterward, let me know if you still feel that way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZRvdbG54H4
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I have found that I burn about the same amount of calories from yoga as I do walking the same amount of time. Beyond that, my balance and flexability has made doing my other strength training easier. Additionally, I love yoga because it forces me to get out of my head for a while.1
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I think gyms make people lazy and codependent on someone else to decide for them what exercises they can and can't do based on machinery provided.
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jayjay12345654321 wrote: »I think gyms make people lazy and codependent on someone else to decide for them what exercises they can and can't do based on machinery provided.
I find the gym a very useful place to get a good well rounded structured workout done using free weights, especially in the winter when it is too muddy and wet to work in the garden- an unstructured freeweight work out.
My workout isn't decided by the gym or machines available- why would it be. It is a convienient place to go to because it has the equipment I want to use.
I am as codependent on the gym for exercise as I am on a restaurant for food.
They are options.
Cheers, h.8 -
I just started yoga at my gym - it's a beginning class, the instructor will show us two or three ways to do a pose, progressively harder. I started taking the class with a "just get it done" attitude to improve my flexibility and balance for strength training, but I've grown to love it! The focus I have to put into it to maintain the poses and be aware of different parts of my body in isolation translates well to everyday mindfulness, which is very important for me. I definitely consider it exercise - it's activity that I don't do all the time that has an impact on my body one way or another.
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jayjay12345654321 wrote: »I think gyms make people lazy and codependent on someone else to decide for them what exercises they can and can't do based on machinery provided.
So if you don't have the advanced equipment at home to continue to improve your strength and cardio you suddenly become lazy because you join a gym with the equipment you need???6 -
jayjay12345654321 wrote: »I think gyms make people lazy and codependent on someone else to decide for them what exercises they can and can't do based on machinery provided.
So if you don't have the advanced equipment at home to continue to improve your strength and cardio you suddenly become lazy because you join a gym with the equipment you need???
I don't need advanced equipment to stay fit. That's what the front door is for. It opens up to a world of free and limitless options.4 -
jayjay12345654321 wrote: »jayjay12345654321 wrote: »I think gyms make people lazy and codependent on someone else to decide for them what exercises they can and can't do based on machinery provided.
So if you don't have the advanced equipment at home to continue to improve your strength and cardio you suddenly become lazy because you join a gym with the equipment you need???
I don't need advanced equipment in my decision making skills. Or to stay fit. That's what the front door is for. It opens up to a world of free and limitless options.
Great for cardio, but what about weight training?4 -
jayjay12345654321 wrote: »jayjay12345654321 wrote: »I think gyms make people lazy and codependent on someone else to decide for them what exercises they can and can't do based on machinery provided.
So if you don't have the advanced equipment at home to continue to improve your strength and cardio you suddenly become lazy because you join a gym with the equipment you need???
I don't need advanced equipment to stay fit. That's what the front door is for. It opens up to a world of free and limitless options.
Hard to train for powerlifting outside of the gym. I am almost offended at being called lazy and codependent. I work my *kitten* off for my goals.
ETA: Just FYI, my goal next Saturday is a 400 lb deadlift. Again, not sure how I could train for that outside of a gym.16 -
jayjay12345654321 wrote: »jayjay12345654321 wrote: »I think gyms make people lazy and codependent on someone else to decide for them what exercises they can and can't do based on machinery provided.
So if you don't have the advanced equipment at home to continue to improve your strength and cardio you suddenly become lazy because you join a gym with the equipment you need???
I don't need advanced equipment to stay fit. That's what the front door is for. It opens up to a world of free and limitless options.
Since the gym is one of the many options available to me when I open my front door, my options are actually more limitless than those who arbitrarily declare it off limits.
Nobody "needs" a gym to stay fit, but it's one of the many options people can *choose*.12 -
jayjay12345654321 wrote: »jayjay12345654321 wrote: »I think gyms make people lazy and codependent on someone else to decide for them what exercises they can and can't do based on machinery provided.
So if you don't have the advanced equipment at home to continue to improve your strength and cardio you suddenly become lazy because you join a gym with the equipment you need???
I don't need advanced equipment to stay fit. That's what the front door is for. It opens up to a world of free and limitless options.
I have to walk out my front door to go to the gym9 -
jayjay12345654321 wrote: »jayjay12345654321 wrote: »I think gyms make people lazy and codependent on someone else to decide for them what exercises they can and can't do based on machinery provided.
So if you don't have the advanced equipment at home to continue to improve your strength and cardio you suddenly become lazy because you join a gym with the equipment you need???
I don't need advanced equipment to stay fit. That's what the front door is for. It opens up to a world of free and limitless options.
I use a gym for strength training for the same reason that I use a grocery store to acquire my food instead of hunting and scavenging for it. Don't mistake convenience and efficiency for laziness and codependence.14 -
Hard to train for powerlifting outside of the gym. And I am almost offended at being called lazy and codependent. I work my *kitten* off for my goals.
Almost offended on a topic called unpopular opinions? Sounds like a fell a little short of success on my opinion. Not unpopular enough.
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jayjay12345654321 wrote: »jayjay12345654321 wrote: »I think gyms make people lazy and codependent on someone else to decide for them what exercises they can and can't do based on machinery provided.
So if you don't have the advanced equipment at home to continue to improve your strength and cardio you suddenly become lazy because you join a gym with the equipment you need???
I don't need advanced equipment in my decision making skills. Or to stay fit. That's what the front door is for. It opens up to a world of free and limitless options.
Great for cardio, but what about weight training?
What's wrong with you? Lift boulders, woman! They're freeeeeeee!
(I do hope people noticed my use of the sarcasm font.)20 -
jayjay12345654321 wrote: »
Hard to train for powerlifting outside of the gym. And I am almost offended at being called lazy and codependent. I work my *kitten* off for my goals.
Almost offended on a topic called unpopular opinions? Sounds like a fell a little short of success on my opinion. Not unpopular enough.
When you get past Planet Fitness and the machines that limit your options, and come to a gym equipped with real weights, you'll see what I mean.12 -
jayjay12345654321 wrote: »
Hard to train for powerlifting outside of the gym. And I am almost offended at being called lazy and codependent. I work my *kitten* off for my goals.
Almost offended on a topic called unpopular opinions? Sounds like a fell a little short of success on my opinion. Not unpopular enough.
So you're trying to be controversial. Do you really think people can strength train in nature?
I'mma going into the woods tomorrow morning to look for some felled trees to do some deadlifts. I don't wanna be codependent, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.12 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »jayjay12345654321 wrote: »
Hard to train for powerlifting outside of the gym. And I am almost offended at being called lazy and codependent. I work my *kitten* off for my goals.
Almost offended on a topic called unpopular opinions? Sounds like a fell a little short of success on my opinion. Not unpopular enough.
When you get past Planet Fitness and the machines that limit your options, and come to a gym equipped with real weights, you'll see what I mean.
I pick things up and put them down10
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