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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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Someone really needs to correct a major error that has been propagating here. The game is "Duck, Duck, Grey Duck". It originated in Sweden, where it is called "Anka, Anka, Grå Anka ". Yes, there is also " Anka, anka, gås", but Grey Duck is superior, and if you're going to make it an Olympic sport you should really nominate the better game.
Deadspin.com - "Duck Duck Grey Duck isn't just a silly regionalism, it's a better game"
Make sure you play the. Gif for an example of the Minnesota Vikings playing "Duck, Duck, Grey Duck".9 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
To me, being hungry means I’m doing it completely wrong. I’ve figured out what foods offer me maximal satiety and I’m not hungry any more often than I ever was. The biggest difference is that I’ve learned to eat until I’m satisfied, not necessarily until I’m completely stuffed. I don’t feel I’ve really had to suffer at all to lose weight (or now, to maintain it).
What kind of "hungry" are we talking about? I can't imagine going through life never being hungry. I grew up being hungry before a meal and that's the way I still live. I can still hear my mom saying "No you can't have a snack, dinner will be ready soon." I still live that way. If I'm out shopping or something and get hungry, I rarely head for a drive thru. I stay hungry until I get home. If a planned meal isn't far off and I get hungry, I stay hungry until the meal.
I'm not saying I never have a snack when hungry, but most times I don't get hungry long before a meal in which case I just wait it out.
But everyone is different. I don't know that there is a right or wrong as long as it's working.
I think what he's responding to is this concept that people live in a state of perpetual hunger because they are dieting, that they feel that's ok because they over indulged for much of their life so now this is their punishment in order to lose the weight.
I don't think people are saying you shouldn't ever feel hunger. I'm hungry right now. But I will eat soon and when I do, I will be satiated. I won't be stuffed but I will eat a breakfast sandwich or some yogurt and have a couple cups of coffee and that will tide me over till lunch time.
Exactly.
Of course I get hungry - and when I get hungry, I eat. But I don't walk around in a perpetual state of hunger, purposely denying myself nourishment. It's not necessary for weight loss, it's miserable and (at least for me) it's not sustainable. Self flagellation isn't an essential element of successful weight loss.10 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Being hungry means I'm doing it right. Shut up stomach, you've run this show for 30 years, time to take a back seat and stfu.
To me, being hungry means I’m doing it completely wrong. I’ve figured out what foods offer me maximal satiety and I’m not hungry any more often than I ever was. The biggest difference is that I’ve learned to eat until I’m satisfied, not necessarily until I’m completely stuffed. I don’t feel I’ve really had to suffer at all to lose weight (or now, to maintain it).
What kind of "hungry" are we talking about? I can't imagine going through life never being hungry. I grew up being hungry before a meal and that's the way I still live. I can still hear my mom saying "No you can't have a snack, dinner will be ready soon." I still live that way. If I'm out shopping or something and get hungry, I rarely head for a drive thru. I stay hungry until I get home. If a planned meal isn't far off and I get hungry, I stay hungry until the meal.
I'm not saying I never have a snack when hungry, but most times I don't get hungry long before a meal in which case I just wait it out.
But everyone is different. I don't know that there is a right or wrong as long as it's working.
I think what he's responding to is this concept that people live in a state of perpetual hunger because they are dieting, that they feel that's ok because they over indulged for much of their life so now this is their punishment in order to lose the weight.
I don't think people are saying you shouldn't ever feel hunger. I'm hungry right now. But I will eat soon and when I do, I will be satiated. I won't be stuffed but I will eat a breakfast sandwich or some yogurt and have a couple cups of coffee and that will tide me over till lunch time.
Exactly.
Of course I get hungry - and when I get hungry, I eat. But I don't walk around in a perpetual state of hunger, purposely denying myself nourishment. It's not necessary for weight loss, it's miserable and (at least for me) it's not sustainable. Self flagellation isn't an essential element of successful weight loss.
This. I liked how the poster above (sorry, I forget who it was) phrased it. I feel "peckish" when it's close to meal time, but I drink a glass of water or take a walk to distract myself. It's not a big deal or anything major. I can live with that feeling. It's not a deep, miserable hunger.
I have a meal schedule, and I stick to it, so that hunger that I feel shortly before my meal times is manageable and not at all miserable. It's not gnawing.
When I get to the point it's miserable? I eat. If the misery is chronic, I know something about what I'm doing has to change.5 -
Someone really needs to correct a major error that has been propagating here. The game is "Duck, Duck, Grey Duck". It originated in Sweden, where it is called "Anka, Anka, Grå Anka ". Yes, there is also " Anka, anka, gås", but Grey Duck is superior, and if you're going to make it an Olympic sport you should really nominate the better game.
Deadspin.com - "Duck Duck Grey Duck isn't just a silly regionalism, it's a better game"
Make sure you play the. Gif for an example of the Minnesota Vikings playing "Duck, Duck, Grey Duck".
I've often wanted to try Duck Duck Brick as described by the writer of Hyperbole and a Half.4 -
If someone says they enjoy working out, one (or more) of the three following situations exists:
1} They're lying
2) They're a masochist
3) They're doing it wrong
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jamesakrobinson wrote: »If someone says they enjoy working out, one (or more) of the three following situations exists:
1} They're lying
2) They're a masochist
3) They're doing it wrong
(Snort.)1 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »If someone says they don't enjoy working out, one (or more) of the three following situations exists:
1} They're lying
2) They're a masochist
3) They're doing it wrong
FIFY11 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »If someone says they enjoy working out, one (or more) of the three following situations exists:
1} They're lying
2) They're a masochist
3) They're doing it wrong
apparently I am walking incorrectly..gotcha. (note to self correct walking)
and swimming wrong but that typically means you drown....interesting...5 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »If someone says they enjoy working out, one (or more) of the three following situations exists:
1} They're lying
2) They're a masochist
3) They're doing it wrong
apparently I am walking incorrectly..gotcha. (note to self correct walking)
and swimming wrong but that typically means you drown....interesting...
LOL different ideas of what "working out" means I guess. I call those exercising... related but not the same.5 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »If someone says they enjoy working out, one (or more) of the three following situations exists:
1} They're lying
2) They're a masochist
3) They're doing it wrong
Do you really believe that or are you trying to be clever?3 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »jamesakrobinson wrote: »If someone says they enjoy working out, one (or more) of the three following situations exists:
1} They're lying
2) They're a masochist
3) They're doing it wrong
apparently I am walking incorrectly..gotcha. (note to self correct walking)
and swimming wrong but that typically means you drown....interesting...
LOL different ideas of what "working out" means I guess. I call those exercising... related but not the same.
Well, now that the sport vs. whatever discussion has ended, what's the difference between "working out" and "exercising"? I'd call them synonyms.
Training is a subset of both.
IMO, all three can be enjoyable, but I'm sure I do it wrong and all that. ;-)3 -
This very moment... I'm suffering DOMS from Saturday's back work, and I know I have DOMS from yesterday's squats to look forward to tomorrow before this is completely subsided... and I am going to be hitting chest and shoulders with my daughter this afternoon, so there's Wednesday's pain to anticipate...
You choose. I might be a masochist? I don't actually enjoy the working out part, but I do like the health and strength. If I could have the benefits without the hard work and pain I would be delighted... but they wouldn't be as valuable would they?7 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »This very moment... I'm suffering DOMS from Saturday's back work, and I know I have DOMS from yesterday's squats to look forward to tomorrow before this is completely subsided... and I am going to be hitting chest and shower with my daughter this afternoon, so there's Wednesday's pain to anticipate...
You choose. I might be a masochist? I don't actually enjoy the working out part, but I do like the health and strength. If I could have the benefits without the hard work and pain I would be delighted... but they wouldn't be as valuable would they?
And that's you...3 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »This very moment... I'm suffering DOMS from Saturday's back work, and I know I have DOMS from yesterday's squats to look forward to tomorrow before this is completely subsided... and I am going to be hitting chest and shower with my daughter this afternoon, so there's Wednesday's pain to anticipate...
You choose. I might be a masochist? I don't actually enjoy the working out part, but I do like the health and strength. If I could have the benefits without the hard work and pain I would be delighted... but they wouldn't be as valuable would they?
but if you didn't hurt, how would you know that your workout was hard enough to be effective?
Personally, I know that if I don't feel sore, I need to add additional movements or raise the weights more than expected.3 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »If someone says they enjoy working out, one (or more) of the three following situations exists:
1} They're lying
2) They're a masochist
3) They're doing it wrong
I tend to agree - I enjoy the results, so I endure the hard work. It is a stretch to say that I "enjoy" pushing heavy things around at 5am when most people are sleeping or running the streets when it is 40 degrees, I can think of thousands of things that would be more enjoyable while I am actually doing it.
If working out was so enjoyable, there wouldn't be so many overweight people, right?6 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »jamesakrobinson wrote: »If someone says they enjoy working out, one (or more) of the three following situations exists:
1} They're lying
2) They're a masochist
3) They're doing it wrong
I tend to agree - I enjoy the results, so I endure the hard work. It is a stretch to say that I "enjoy" pushing heavy things around at 5am when most people are sleeping or running the streets when it is 40 degrees, I can think of thousands of things that would be more enjoyable while I am actually doing it.
If working out was so enjoyable, there wouldn't be so many overweight people, right?
Not if you still can't get your diet under control...4 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »This very moment... I'm suffering DOMS from Saturday's back work, and I know I have DOMS from yesterday's squats to look forward to tomorrow before this is completely subsided... and I am going to be hitting chest and shower with my daughter this afternoon, so there's Wednesday's pain to anticipate...
You choose. I might be a masochist? I don't actually enjoy the working out part, but I do like the health and strength. If I could have the benefits without the hard work and pain I would be delighted... but they wouldn't be as valuable would they?
And that's you...
LOL You've just confirmed a portion of my premise by implying that you like the pain! Pick a position. You can't prove me right while typing your dissenting opinion!
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jamesakrobinson wrote: »jamesakrobinson wrote: »This very moment... I'm suffering DOMS from Saturday's back work, and I know I have DOMS from yesterday's squats to look forward to tomorrow before this is completely subsided... and I am going to be hitting chest and shower with my daughter this afternoon, so there's Wednesday's pain to anticipate...
You choose. I might be a masochist? I don't actually enjoy the working out part, but I do like the health and strength. If I could have the benefits without the hard work and pain I would be delighted... but they wouldn't be as valuable would they?
And that's you...
LOL You've just confirmed a portion of my premise by implying that you like the pain! Pick a position. You can't prove me right while typing your dissenting opinion!
You are drawing conclusions based on your own personal preference. You are viewing it through the lens of your experience. Not everyone sees things the way you do...2 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »This very moment... I'm suffering DOMS from Saturday's back work, and I know I have DOMS from yesterday's squats to look forward to tomorrow before this is completely subsided... and I am going to be hitting chest and shower with my daughter this afternoon, so there's Wednesday's pain to anticipate...
You choose. I might be a masochist? I don't actually enjoy the working out part, but I do like the health and strength. If I could have the benefits without the hard work and pain I would be delighted... but they wouldn't be as valuable would they?
So DOMS is what defines what working out is?
I've enjoyed plenty of activities that later resulted in DOMS.
I've also found that DOMS tends to have less to do with whether something is a "real workout" than either doing something new, starting up after a long time, or changing things up, which often are not the most intense workouts (although in some cases they might be).
I would disagree that you can only get the benefits of exercise by doing something painful (hard work and pain are not the same thing, also). I don't think it is bad -- or unenjoyable -- to do something that results in soreness, occasionally, or even not fun sometimes (I did a half ironman and during the run -- which was on a very hot day, unshaded, I was exhausted and sunburnt -- I was thinking "am I insane to do stuff like this"), but it being fun does not make it not a workout, that seems weird.
And I wouldn't call the half ironman "a workout," probably -- it was a race or event. The training that led up to it was mostly (not entirely) fun. And yes, I'm sure cardio doesn't count as working out or some such.6 -
jamesakrobinson wrote: »jamesakrobinson wrote: »This very moment... I'm suffering DOMS from Saturday's back work, and I know I have DOMS from yesterday's squats to look forward to tomorrow before this is completely subsided... and I am going to be hitting chest and shower with my daughter this afternoon, so there's Wednesday's pain to anticipate...
You choose. I might be a masochist? I don't actually enjoy the working out part, but I do like the health and strength. If I could have the benefits without the hard work and pain I would be delighted... but they wouldn't be as valuable would they?
And that's you...
LOL You've just confirmed a portion of my premise by implying that you like the pain! Pick a position. You can't prove me right while typing your dissenting opinion!
You are drawing conclusions based on your own personal preference. You are viewing it through the lens of your experience. Not everyone sees things the way you do...
Thus the reason for the word "opinion" in the thread title.1
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