Of refeeds and diet breaks

anubis609 wrote: »

Anyone with problems, Lyle has a message

heybales wrote: »

mph323 wrote: »

@anubis609 and @PAV8888 thanks for the links and the observations. You guys shook some thoughts loose in my head! Here's a couple -

All my closest relatives have died from the results of lifestyle choices (alcohol, tobacco) or complications of old age (my dad's pushing 90 and still goes to the gym and lifts 3 days a week), and I don't have any health markers that would pre-disposition me to anything in particular. I don't have any reason to tailor my weight/body fat goals to avoid any specific disease. I get to choose!

I've never in my life reached a weight goal and said "Score! Now to enjoy the results of my hard work!". I notice I'm not doing that now either, I'm stressing over what the next goal should be. The next goal should be learning how to maintain this healthy body in a way that becomes second nature, and experimenting with all the fun things I can do now that I'm lighter and stronger!

And oh that can be so difficult to have that as a goal.

Like I have a hard time keeping to an eating goal if the workouts aren't happening.
Then again that could be a problem of liking to eat more.
Or I keep attempting the "feed a cold" theory since that's what I get.

bmeadows380 wrote: »

PAV8888 wrote: »

While these guys found that low overweight BMIs were good for longevity, especially in more recent decades:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1555137
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2520627

These guys published, in the summer of 2016, a "stick to normal bmi levels" review study:
thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(16)30175-1/abstract

I find humor in all the studies on mortality rates. what I mean is that in the end, our mortality rate is going to be 100% I know that the best goal we can have is to live as long as we can and in the best health that we can, so of course, keeping an eye on things that are detrimental to our health is a good idea. I just find it humorous and rather ironic that some folks will spend all their time obsessing over over little thing that will possibly, maybe affect a .0X% of their mortality rate in the next 10 years instead of just enjoying their lives.

That's not pointed at any one person; I'm just making a random, general statement based upon comments I see on various articles and the way various articles are often sensationalized. I just think that instead of stressing out over the minuscule things, that most people would be far happier if they'd deal with the big issues in life and then enjoy their lives - you know, enjoy the forest instead of focusing on the trees..... lol

But that's just me waxing philosophical! And of course, I'm just as guilty as most other folks. for instance, just this morning, I was temporarily irked because most days, I eat right at or slightly over my calorie limit, but since I'm at or over, that means I don't get the "and was under her calorie goal" message when I close my diary. I know, its really stupid to let it irk me, even if it only lasts for 5 seconds or so, but I'm a rules follower, and I have this initial knee-jerk reaction when it comes to things my mind has perceived as "the rules" so when my brain sees something and categorizes it as a rule that I failed to achieve, I get a sense of guilt. Rationally, I know this is ridiculous; but emotions rarely care about being rational......Of course, that statement follows back on to why so many folks stress over the minors So I'm just as guilty as everyone else!

anubis609 wrote: »

PAV8888 wrote: »

@anubis609 I think that all I have concluded from the above studies is that it is too close to call anytime you have a combined lean mass and body fat amount around the high normal level. Plus or minus a couple of points.

In other words other considerations maybe more important at that point of time.

Wholeheartedly agree.

In other news, I'm apparently a glutton for punishment. I mosey into various keto threads (or literally get "summoned" on occasion) and the misinformation is astounding. I'd rather practice Olympic lifts for 4 hours. Is that so much to ask for?

oh, so you caught that you were mentioned in the "keto means not counting calories" thread! *grins*

I saw this thread this morning that you guys might find interesting:

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10635955/lyle-mcdonald-legit-or-fos

bbell1985 wrote: »

Did anyone get the PDF? Did you get it immediately? I want the hard copy but I'm also staying in tonight and wouldn't mind starting it...decisions decisions.