Just ate a whole bar of chocolate
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What is TDEE?2
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mortuseon_ wrote: »
And exercise is included in the number too, as an average across the week.
MFP uses the NEAT method where purposeful exercise is added on top of the calories it sets you.0 -
Yes iam stressing i know I can keep the weight off once it's off as I know where I went wrong the last time I just have no bloody will power I was talking to a friend the other day saying how this chocolate says a serving size is 2 squares and who eats 2 squares and puts it back she was like I do that I wish I could do that or she was saying how she couldn't finish her tinned rice pudding she ate half last time and was still hungry but couldn't eat a whole tin why the f*** am I so greedy like I could easily eat a whole pizza but she can only eat half a one and she is around the same height & weight as me
I have recently learned that I am an "all or nothing" person when it comes to food. I cant allow myself any treats or things because I can't stop at just one serving. I either eat a whole large pizza or none at all, etc. Sucks but just how some of us are wired.4 -
OP is calculating a tdee with a sedentary multiplier of 1.2 which is suitable for someone who moves enough to provide self care (bathroom, couch, back).
Then hitting that with an aggressive goal.
Here is the thing OP.
You are overweight; not obese. Your health absent comorbidities is in the ALERT and NOT non the danger zone.
You have two options here. You can try to continue as you're doing now. From the sounds of it you're going to last weeks continuing to white knuckle things. You're certainly not going to last the months it will take to get to where you need to be.
I don't give a rat's **kitten** what your friend told you about eating half a pudding. Not only that, but I would also call mean girl competitive BS on that with her showing off that she can "diet" better than you. You girls are weird that way: at least us guys compete about how much MORE we can eat!
OK. So. Stop comparing. And stop trying to do this in one day. Cause it ain't happening.
Your activity level is Ill selected if you're not eating all exercise calories on top. Other than your walk to school do you do anything else during the day? Are you able to throw another walk in there during lunch hour? Why are your weight sessions not too strenuous? Lack of energy due to not eating enough? I mean why bother going all the way to the gym and not giving it your all while there? You may want to look into a structured program and cut down on the times per week (from 5 to 2 or 3 since you will be in a bit of pain) and go for a walk on the treadmill during the "rest" days... Instant activity increase.
Between your birthday and all this happening switch to maintenance for the next week and at the end of the week take a deep breath and cut no more than 20% of off your tdee. In your case there is no way that based on your fat level and activity level that you can reliably support even a lb a week target. So that's your outside high rate.
Then look at your day and at your normal eating as you log it and make some decisions as to what you can or cannot eat and how much.
You keep talking about take-away so I assume you're at work most of the day. Maybe with your husband's help you can meal prep on the weekend for two or three days of the week reducing some of the take aways. Maybe you can choose different items at the take away.
You say that you know what went wrong with maintenance. Do you? If you're ready to maintain right now, why are you so scared (in your birthday thread) to spend a week at maintenance?
If you *know* how to maintain, all you have to do to lose weight is cut 250 Cal a day.
That is a lunch time walk and a couple of smarter choices for a year and ~25lbs.
You don't *have* to make it difficult.
And even if you don't know how to maintain (which I strongly suspect is the case), going at it slowly and developing new ways of eating and moving are key to getting anywhere.
Look: takeway will be there for the next 20 years. If your family is in the habit of eating it every day you WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT how to deal with this on an ongoing basis.
I go to McDonald's several times a day. You read it right. McDonald's, Tim Horton's, Wendy's and Starbucks. There's even days with all four. It doesn't mean I eat anything and everything there, right?
So deep breath. Stop flailing around and despairing. Slow down. Be a duck with failure and focus on your next appropriate action.
Punishing your failure or making things too hard by skipping tea because you had a chocolate is not correct. Evaluating whether you can legitimately have a slightly lighter tea because you're not as hungry after eating that chocolate IS correct. And if you ARE truly that hungry after eating it (and not just seeking hedonistic pleasure from continuing to eat) then your deficit is counterproductively high.
Evaluate your weight using a trending weight application and a trend that extends 4 to 6 weeks as hormonal water weight fluctuations could make seeing your progress quite difficult when focused on day to day weigh ins.
Take care, and I hope you have a nice and stress free birthday!
Lots of info to reply to here so first I don't work I follow a 30day calendar every month for workouts I can hold a convo through it if needs be everyday is different depending on what is scedueled I walk 3miles everyday I don't work I cook healthy meals for the family I don't keep talking about takeaway only with my birthday coming up and my partner mentioning it tonight as we have been out for the day and not had time to cook I was worried about switching to maintenance as I haven't reached goal weight yet I went wrong last time by just eating everything and not tracking at all letting one bad day derail me into a bad month bad months now iam tracking even the "bad" stuff which I never did before
Instead of rushing to “answer” this thoughtful post full of advice and great ideas, maybe spend some time reading through it and deciding what tactics to try out??6 -
Christine_72 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »I have to know, how many calories are in the chocolate? And how many calories are in your tea?
Also, now I want some tea.
I would assume OP means "tea" in the regional British and Irish sense of "evening meal", not just a particularly lardy cuppa.
OP, the thing about eating tea, even if it puts you over your goal, is this: the mistake is already made. Skipping tea will not undo the mistake, it will just make another mistake of disrupting your normal eating schedule and making yourself sad and hungry and, deep down, resentful. You have to accept the mistake and move on.
A takeaway is fine, just do some research in advance, choose something not too calorific, don't eat the whole portion (put half on a plate and half in the fridge for tomorrow) and don't go mad on the side dishes. There's a world of difference between a half portion of chicken cashew nut with a half portion of fried rice and 5 prawn crackers, versus the Hungry Dragon Lard-Bottom Sharing Banquet for 5.
We all have days where the wheels come off, you just need to not lose your head and keep trying. You'll get there in the end.
Lmao. You are right. I had to look it up. Having been to England numerous times, and having enjoyed high tea in England, Hong Kong, and here locally, I’ve never heard of it referred to as dinner. But apparently along the working class in certain areas, that’s the slang. Probably not useful on this mostly US board, but whatever.
I did start craving tea though. Op, thanks. I enjoyed my darjeeling tea with cream this afternoon thanks to you.
So if you're English and say 'tea' to refer to a meal time you're working class...
:huh: :noway:
Yep, it's the same here in Australia, us Ruffians call dinner "tea", and the uppercrusts call it dinner. I use dinner on here because it's a US site, and most everyone knows what it means.
I use them interchangably, and don't even notice I do it. It would never occur to me to define it when using it - in fact I'd actually feel I was being patronising if I did so.1 -
Had my takeaway for tea peri peri chicken & wings with cheesey chips then had a f*** it day yesterday had a look through my diary at what I was doing the last time I was losing and what my calories were set at so I've set them to 1600 which is what I was averaging at and have decided to go on a longer walk in the mornings after school run with the dogs done over 7000 steps so far today and I will continue with following my workout calendar thanks for all the advice/support and I wasn't offended by people not understanding "tea" I know not all people say breakfast, dinner and tea just force of habit to write that
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Woops my f*** it day added upto over 8k calories + the 4k on Saturday got some serious making up to do now doh!3
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Op, have you considered maybe seeing a registered dietician ?0
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Lesscookies1 wrote: »Op, have you considered maybe seeing a registered dietician ?
Maybe if I had money to burn but I don't I had my gym instructor who is also a dietitian take a look through my diary pre binge and she said it looked fine I know where I'm going wrong but getting out is hard to do2 -
I know where I'm going wrong but getting out is hard to do
You do intellectually understand that chasing the ball leads to repeated over-corrections, right? That chasing after your early losses at the casino, most of the time, tends to result in more losses and not to a reversal of your fortunes?
What you ate THREE days ago is IRRELEVANT.
Done.
Finished.
You've already eaten it!
Yes. If you were in a different head-space knowing exactly how many calories you went over might be useful in terms of aggregate data. I most certainly log all my all-you-can-eat meals and enjoy playing with spreadsheets comparing calories in, fitbit calories, and trending weight.
But, in your current head-space you're not doing this out of intellectual curiosity. You're guilt tripping and dwelling on what's already done!
You don't have an end date and neither does your quest for weight management.
So whether you get there tomorrow or a year from now is not relevant. Figuring out a setup that will eventually get you there IS relevant.
Chasing bad decisions and trying to make up for them is **KITTEN**
Get back to a reasonable plan. DON'T UNDER-EAT DELIBERATELY. Don't OVER-EAT deliberately. Don't OVER-RESTRICT even.
If you're having trouble controlling binge eating type behaviour large deficits are COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE.
Pick maintenance or small deficit. STICK to it as best you can. See if this helps with your eating issues. Evaluate where you're at in terms of actual vs predicted weight change after 4 to 6 weeks. Make small changes over time.
If any of this doesn't apply to you, forgive me for confusing you, and, obviously, ignore my advice!
If some of it does sound like it could apply to you... think about it.
You have my best wishes for success.9 -
I can’t believe I didn’t buy any thin mints yesterday with the GS outside Publix. Good thing there were 2 exits2
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Only one? I don't get worried tell it's three! A splurge once in awhile isn't going to make or break you. Just don't get into a habit of it if it doesn't fit your calorie goals.2
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'fixed it' with a therapist, or.....?3 -
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How did you “fix it” then?0 -
How did you “fix it” then?
By restricting to ~500 calories per day, apparently.
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How did you “fix it” then?
By restricting to ~500 calories per day, apparently.
OP only ate 400 cals on monday and tuesday1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »
How did you “fix it” then?
By restricting to ~500 calories per day, apparently.
OP only ate 400 cals on monday and tuesday
I am afraid she might be doing this again today with the logging so far.
Advice given here and the other thread not taken. :grumble:2 -
But yet it's ok for other people to look at their weekly goal but not me?? And I ate all my calories yesterday and plan to on Saturday for my birthday as I have pre logged2
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janejellyroll wrote: »
It's only for 2 days then break then another 2 days and I feel fine + it averages out my weekly goal to maintenance calories1 -
No I'm not I binged because I had been eating only 1317 calories for a week now I've upped them to 1600 which is what I was on while losing last time3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
It's only for 2 days then break then another 2 days and I feel fine + it averages out my weekly goal to maintenance calories
People are trying to share that two days of extreme restriction isn't a great binge recovery tool. It sets you up for another binge especially since you've shared your cycle of restriction and binges prompted by "special days"/holidays (which is what you have coming up this weekend).
It may be that you're just not ready to hear it yet.
The cycle that you're going through is clear to many of us because we've been there too.2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
It's only for 2 days then break then another 2 days and I feel fine + it averages out my weekly goal to maintenance calories
People are trying to share that two days of extreme restriction isn't a great binge recovery tool. It sets you up for another binge especially since you've shared your cycle of restriction and binges prompted by "special days"/holidays (which is what you have coming up this weekend).
It may be that you're just not ready to hear it yet.
The cycle that you're going through is clear to many of us because we've been there too.
If you look at my diary I managed valentine's Day just over my calories and have pre logged my birthday meal just over my allowance too1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
It's only for 2 days then break then another 2 days and I feel fine + it averages out my weekly goal to maintenance calories
People are trying to share that two days of extreme restriction isn't a great binge recovery tool. It sets you up for another binge especially since you've shared your cycle of restriction and binges prompted by "special days"/holidays (which is what you have coming up this weekend).
It may be that you're just not ready to hear it yet.
The cycle that you're going through is clear to many of us because we've been there too.
If you look at my diary I managed valentine's Day just over my calories and have pre logged my birthday meal just over my allowance too
What is it that you're hoping to get out of these threads? I know in the past you've expressed frustration when people try to give advise based on their experiences or what has worked for them. It seems like you're looking for some validation. In my personal case, that's not something I feel comfortable offering here. I don't think your current strategy is one that is good for you mentally or physically and I don't feel it's likely to lead to long-term weight management success. Maybe I'm wrong. But I don't want this to be any more frustrating for you than it has to be. How would you like people here to express their concern for your wellbeing and their wishes for your success?4 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
It's only for 2 days then break then another 2 days and I feel fine + it averages out my weekly goal to maintenance calories
People are trying to share that two days of extreme restriction isn't a great binge recovery tool. It sets you up for another binge especially since you've shared your cycle of restriction and binges prompted by "special days"/holidays (which is what you have coming up this weekend).
It may be that you're just not ready to hear it yet.
The cycle that you're going through is clear to many of us because we've been there too.
If you look at my diary I managed valentine's Day just over my calories and have pre logged my birthday meal just over my allowance too
What is it that you're hoping to get out of these threads? I know in the past you've expressed frustration when people try to give advise based on their experiences or what has worked for them. It seems like you're looking for some validation. In my personal case, that's not something I feel comfortable offering here. I don't think your current strategy is one that is good for you mentally or physically and I don't feel it's likely to lead to long-term weight management success. Maybe I'm wrong. But I don't want this to be any more frustrating for you than it has to be. How would you like people here to express their concern for your wellbeing and their wishes for your success?
I'm not hoping for anything im just frustrated reading other people looking at their weekly average and eating less on some days so they can eat more on weekends (which is essentially what iam doing) but yet it's not ok for me to do it for 4 days not even back to back -_-2
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