March 2018 Running Challenge
Replies
-
Sorry late in, trying for 150 miles this month.
1/3-13.1
2/3-rest
3/3-3.2
4/3-3.5
5/3-5.5
6/3-14.0
Total so far......39.5/1507 -
3/1: 2.53
3/2: Rest
3/3: 2.78
3/4: Rest
3/5: 3.1
3/6: 2.43
Total: 10.84/254 -
*insert frownie face*
Playing with Marathon Pace Predictors... according to all of them I am still to fat and slow to have a good shot at breaking 4 hours. Grrr.3 -
3/1 6.86miles
3/2 rest
3/3 10miles
3/4 rest
3/5 6.57miles
3/6 5miles
An easy 5 miler today. A bit chilly, but no wind so it felt good!
3/18/2018 Shamrock half marathon
10/7/2018 Crawlin Crab half marathon
10/13/2018 Joggin for Frogmen 5K
11/18/2018 Norfolk Harbor half marathon4 -
PastorVincent wrote: »*insert frownie face*
Playing with Marathon Pace Predictors... according to all of them I am still to fat and slow to have a good shot at breaking 4 hours. Grrr.
What kind of predictors are you using??? You are totally going to CRUSH that goal.2 -
Yesterday my calves were really tight from the hills on Sunday. Water walking helped a bit, but I should have stretched and foam rolled last night but too tired to get my lazy butt out of the chair. Crazy morning today trying to get my son to orchestra, my car to the garage, and me to PT and still get in a workout. Got a circuit class in at the gym at 5:30 am and then ran 6 mile on the track (some cadence and speed work) and around the school while waiting for my son to finish orchestra rehearsal. Then off to PT for lots of scraping and an anti-inflammatory patch on my hamstring. Then off to work finally.
I have an annual physical tonight. Anyone have any favorite tests they like to get done as distance runners? Trying to make sure I am getting all the nutrition I should to help the healing and support my running....
Mar 1 P90X class
Mar 2 Water walking
Mar 3 Ran 6.8 mi (Spring Fling 10K + warm up)
Mar 4 Ran 13.9 mi hilly partial preview of 50K course
Mar 5 Water walking
Mar 6 Ran 6 mi + Circuit strength + PT + hopefully some more foam rolling
Mar goal: 120 mi
Done: 26.7 mi
To go: 93.3 mi
Finished races:
Winter Night Trail Half Marathon Jan 20 2:21 4th in my age group!
Spring Fling 10K Mar 3. 48:12 2nd in my age group!
Upcoming races:
Spring Fling 10K Mar 3
OPSF 50/50 50K Mar 24
Bound the Mound Half Marathon (trail) Apr 8 (rescheduled because of flooding)
2018 Spring Plan:
DINO Eagle Creek 15K Apr 7
Glacial Esker 20 mi Apr 28
DINO Muscatuck 15K May 5
DWD Gnawbone Marathon May 19
DINO Brown County 15K Jun 2
8 h @ Brown County Jun 16-17
DINO Griffin Park 15K Jun 23
Big goal for the fall: 50 miler before I turn 50
5 -
lporter229 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »*insert frownie face*
Playing with Marathon Pace Predictors... according to all of them I am still to fat and slow to have a good shot at breaking 4 hours. Grrr.
What kind of predictors are you using??? You are totally going to CRUSH that goal.
These are some I tried:
https://www.runnersworld.com/tools/race-time-predictor
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/marathon-calculator/
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2014/10/running_calculator_introducing_slate_s_marathon_time_predictor_a_better.html
Thing is I need figure out what pace to START the race so was hoping a predictor would help. Instead, it just made me all frownie.
0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »*insert frownie face*
Playing with Marathon Pace Predictors... according to all of them I am still to fat and slow to have a good shot at breaking 4 hours. Grrr.
Have you used the Daniels Tables spreadsheet? I've found that to be very accurate for me, though you need your HR data (ETA: Actually you don't need HR data, having it helps you get a better overall picture)
For a 4 hour marathon, that averages out to a 9:09 pace as I recall. When I went for my 4 hour goal, I tried to hit and even 9:00 pace throughout the race, to allow for not hitting the tangents perfect, water stops, etc.2 -
Only signed up yesterday but still to start as husband was late home from work so I didn't have anyone to watch the toddlebeasts!
Haha "toddlebeasts"! Something to run from! And then too because you miss the little creeps!
@TattooedDolphinGirl78 Regarding shin splints. Everything I've come across says too much too fast. Maybe add more walking in lieu of running?
ETA How are your running surfaces? Cambored any? Stick to flat and don't run the track same way repeatedly.
Shin splints are horrible. I just find the knot that developed, apply a bit of pressure with two fingers and flex/extend the foot several time. It works the knot out. (Mines always medial, the inside of shin bone.) I think patience wins this injury. Who freekin has time for that, right?
----
Something y'all probably already know. ...
I watched Icarus on Netflix last night. It's been know for decades that the Russians cheated/doped in the Olympics. I was surprised that it all finally came out in such detail (I don't watch news). Sad story really, the way it was putin people harm's way.
Good watch if anyone has the time.2 -
@pastorvincent if you're not familiar with the Daniels' Training Tables, you can find info, and a link to an Excel spreasheet, here:
http://www.electricblues.com/html/runpro.html
This is a data geeks dream. When I was running more paved races, I found it to be a great tool. It told me I was ready for a 4 hr marathon, but I ended up getting fatiguing around the 22 mile mark and finished 4:09. I attribute this to an Achilles stain 5 weeks prior to the race, which took me out of training for two and a half weeks.
I have what I think is accurate HR data as inputs. I check this against my training runs/paces and unless I'm sick, tired, or overtrained, it provides good feedback to where I'm at with my fitness. It's easy to get lost in all this info and it takes time to sort it out. Not recommended for new runners.
1 -
I've decided to skip my run today. Stravistix tells me I'm bouncing back and forth into the "overtraining zone" and since I want to try for 18+ miles this weekend, I need more rest.
6 -
6
-
PastorVincent wrote: »@amymoreorless my goal is a sub 2 hour half marathon too. I was hoping to hit it at the Shamrock in 2 weeks, but I was sick most of February so I don’t think I’ll be able to do it. All of my long runs since getting sick have been really slow.
I’m hopeful for my next half in October!
I am hoping for 1:50 at the Shamrock Shuffle here... so here's hoping we both win! I have been told the course I am running is very tough. So we will see!
Good luck @zdyb23456 and @PastorVincent! I hope you both are successful meeting your goal.
I am making a fourth attempt at a sub-2 hour 1/2 on April 7th. It was fairly easy pushing my pace from 11-12 minute miles to 10-9:30 minute miles. I am having a much harder time increasing my pace to 8:30-9 minute miles. It is so hard for my short middle-age legs to maintain that kind of pace!5 -
3/1 = rest day
3/2 = 2 slow miles with the dog
3/3 = rest day
3/4 = 13 miles - Alamo 1/2 Marathon
3/5 = 2 miles - Attempt # 2 at trying to "run" with my dog.
3/6 = 9 miles - easy pace
March Goal Miles = 150 / 26 Miles Completed6 -
I will post my miles later today but just want to mention a conversation I had with my daughter yesterday where she asked if my run was a good one. I told her I was frustrated with my pace and that I am having to walk again at times when I know where I was previously... Her wise words were...'are you still enjoying yourself, is it still fun?' If so what does it matter what your pace is besides assuaging your ego?' This is going to be my new focus. Hopefully I will improve again and if not I will just be getting out and enjoying myself!
Wise words from your daughter! No wonder she's a doctor.
That sort of reminds me how I felt when I turned around on my ride on Saturday. I just realized it wasn't fun that day. Normally it is fun and that day, with the wind, it wasn't.
5 -
I've been bad about catching up with posts... so not sure if this was mentioned. But my cycling group recommended this app called "Epic Ride". But it works for runs too!
You link it to Strava (or many other apps that track rides/runs)... then you can see your past runs and you can specify when you want to run it. It will tell you the temperatures and most importantly (for cycling), which direction the wind is blowing. This way you can do a reverse of the route so you can have the tailwind on the way home.
I don't find the wind too much of a bother on running... but it might be depending upon where you live. Of course, you could use a weather app to do it, but this shows with an arrow the way the wind is blowing. For me, I need that. If you tell me winds from the SE, it means nothing to me. Just like don't tell me to head East - unless it's sunrise.
Here is a picture of a run I did one day... and then I said I wanted to see how it would be at a different time and the arrows show the wind:
5 -
March goal: Run END-SURE well, stay healthy and enter the final stages of Zumbro training
Nominal mileage goal: Let's say 140? I really don't know. Real plan is to follow training and coach's advice well.
3/1- REST
3/2- 4.3
3/3- 13.3
3/4- 14.3
3/5- REST
3/6- 7.4
Total: 39.3
Today's notes: Hit the road for hill repeats this morning. I had an 0800 meeting I needed to get to, and running trail was not an option. Assignment was 14x1min hill repeats at 10/10 effort. I think I did pretty well on that. All of my reps clocked in with sub-7 pace. Overall, my run was a little slower than the last time I ran it, but a lot of that was the fact that I was going slower going back down hill after the uphill efforts. Felt like I was cheating a little, but that's what I get for going road.
As a side note, I hate waiting.
2018 races
3/24- END-SURE 50k
4/13- Zumbro Endurance Race 100 Mile
7/28- Minnesota Voyageur 50
9/8- Superior Trail 50 mile
10/20- Wild Duluth 50k
3 -
@pastorvincent if you're not familiar with the Daniels' Training Tables, you can find info, and a link to an Excel spreasheet, here:
http://www.electricblues.com/html/runpro.html
This is a data geeks dream. When I was running more paved races, I found it to be a great tool. It told me I was ready for a 4 hr marathon, but I ended up getting fatiguing around the 22 mile mark and finished 4:09. I attribute this to an Achilles stain 5 weeks prior to the race, which took me out of training for two and a half weeks.
I have what I think is accurate HR data as inputs. I check this against my training runs/paces and unless I'm sick, tired, or overtrained, it provides good feedback to where I'm at with my fitness. It's easy to get lost in all this info and it takes time to sort it out. Not recommended for new runners.
To follow along on this, I use my "estimated" 10k PR in the table, and it gives me a 5k and mile time that are slower than my "estimated" mile PR and my recorded 5kPR. I can't really compare to my HM and marathon times though since those times are from before I started training with my coach, and I've made HUGE gains.1 -
PastorVincent wrote: »*insert frownie face*
Playing with Marathon Pace Predictors... according to all of them I am still to fat and slow to have a good shot at breaking 4 hours. Grrr.
Have you used the Daniels Tables spreadsheet? I've found that to be very accurate for me, though you need your HR data (ETA: Actually you don't need HR data, having it helps you get a better overall picture)
For a 4 hour marathon, that averages out to a 9:09 pace as I recall. When I went for my 4 hour goal, I tried to hit and even 9:00 pace throughout the race, to allow for not hitting the tangents perfect, water stops, etc.
So much nerd candy in those Daniels' Tables. When I was training for (read "obsessed with") my marathon PR, I was addicted to those tables and I found them to be surprisingly accurate based on HR and LT data.
@PastorVincent -Unless you have a very recent race that you ran all out, I don't think that you can use race results as an adequate predictor because it seems like you have been training a ton and have probably made huge gains. Didn't you say you have a HM coming up that you would like to race hard? Assuming no unforeseen race day issues, that will probably give you a better prediction of how you can expect to perform in your marathon.2 -
@shanaber- Listen to your daughter...she is a wise one!0
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 388.9K Introduce Yourself
- 42.9K Getting Started
- 259K Health and Weight Loss
- 175.1K Food and Nutrition
- 47.2K Recipes
- 232K Fitness and Exercise
- 340 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.4K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.4K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 152.3K Motivation and Support
- 7.5K Challenges
- 1.2K Debate Club
- 96.2K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Information
- 21 News and Announcements
- 705 Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 1.9K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions