What's the best diet or fitness advice you've ever heard?
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jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That thread doesn't say "only CICO" anywhere. :huh:4 -
Here is one of my favorites of all time
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concordancia wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That person seems to have a healthy diet and admits to cutting calories too low for awhile. So, not exactly relevant to your point.
"Currently I eat everything I like but I try not to go over my calorie goal, so I eat a lot more "unhealthy" stuff since I started CICO."
Her words.0 -
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quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That thread doesn't say "only CICO" anywhere. :huh:
Currently I eat everything I like but I try not to go over my calorie goal, so I eat a lot more "unhealthy" stuff since I started CICO.
Yes it does.4 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »concordancia wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That person seems to have a healthy diet and admits to cutting calories too low for awhile. So, not exactly relevant to your point.
"Currently I eat everything I like but I try not to go over my calorie goal, so I eat a lot more "unhealthy" stuff since I started CICO."
Her words.
More unhealthy stuff, not all unhealthy stuff.
Do you really not see the difference??? :ohwell:5 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »concordancia wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
That person seems to have a healthy diet and admits to cutting calories too low for awhile. So, not exactly relevant to your point.
"Currently I eat everything I like but I try not to go over my calorie goal, so I eat a lot more "unhealthy" stuff since I started CICO."
Her words.
And just before that she said that she can eat more than she previously thought now that she is weighing, suggesting that the additional "unhealthy" stuff is on top of the vegetables and such.4 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
[ETA:] Maybe a couple more from that thread - again with bold added to help you out:Severe undereating can cause issues like hair loss and irregular TOM. I think too little protein or fat can cause things like hair loss. Me personally I'd go see my dr in case something's cropped up, but I'm also curious to know how much fat and protein you're eating, and what your current calorie intake is. Maybe something there could hold a clue.This. My first thought was fat is to low, or a very low calorie intake.You mention fruits and veggies, but how are your proteins and fats?I don't see ED anywhere based on what you are posting. But things are not working as they should so with small losses precision in what we do for adherence has little wiggle room. That said, small losses will appear to be happening very slowly. If you are eating 1600-1700 (including exercise calories back) then somewhere between exercise cals and your calorie intake logging you may be keeping yourself in and out of a deficit.
With loss of period and side effects you are having, hormonal balance is key through nutrition and the right amount of exercise. Of course any time things of this nature are happening seeing your doctor for some blood work and lab testing should be something you should consider.
Can you open your diary?9 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.21 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Nobody says this. That's what we've been trying to communicate.
What they do say:
CICO matters for weight loss. Which is true. You can't make weight loss happen any other way.7 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Would your advice be the exact same for a morbidly obese 400-pound person who has suffered from terrible eating habits their entire life as it would be for a bodybuilder at 10% who's trying to cut the last few pounds of bodyfat?
Context matters.8 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Would your advice be the exact same for a morbidly obese 400-pound person who has suffered from terrible eating habits their entire life as it would be for a bodybuilder at 10% who's trying to cut the last few pounds of bodyfat?
Context matters.
Yes, it would be. Eat nutritious food limit food that is considered unhealthy. The calorie count would be different but the type of food would be the same.6 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Would your advice be the exact same for a morbidly obese 400-pound person who has suffered from terrible eating habits their entire life as it would be for a bodybuilder at 10% who's trying to cut the last few pounds of bodyfat?
Context matters.
Yes, it would be. Eat nutritious food limit food that is considered unhealthy. The calorie count would be different but the type of food would be the same.
What foods do you consider unhealthy?2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Nobody says this. That's what we've been trying to communicate.
What they do say:
CICO matters for weight loss. Which is true. You can't make weight loss happen any other way.
Here is a quote from a user. I just copied.
"Anything you want as long as you meet your calorie goal for the day."
People keep saying this same thing over and over again. It may be worded differently but it's the same.6 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Would your advice be the exact same for a morbidly obese 400-pound person who has suffered from terrible eating habits their entire life as it would be for a bodybuilder at 10% who's trying to cut the last few pounds of bodyfat?
Context matters.
Yes, it would be. Eat nutritious food limit food that is considered unhealthy. The calorie count would be different but the type of food would be the same.
Then your advice is bad. It is more healthy for the morbidly obese person to eat a diet they can stick to and actually lose weight. Losing weight creates more health benefits for them than a few vegetables would.
In that case, the "eat anything you want" argument you keep saying is all over the boards would be true.10 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Nobody says this. That's what we've been trying to communicate.
What they do say:
CICO matters for weight loss. Which is true. You can't make weight loss happen any other way.
Here is a quote from a user. I just copied.
"Anything you want as long as you meet your calorie goal for the day."
From where? Could you link the thread, please?1 -
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Again, ideas for WEIGHT LOSS. The only way to create weight loss is CICO.4
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quiksylver296 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »jefamer2017 wrote: »https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10662786/unhealthy-diet/p1
Here is a great example of why nutrition is important. This is why saying CICO is all that matters for weight loss.
I guess you must have somehow skipped over the posts talking about nutrition. Maybe if I quote one of them it will help you (I'll even bold part of it to make it easier for you):For weight loss, it doesn't matter. A calorie deficit creates weight loss.
For general health and fitness, it absolutely can matter. Nobody here denies that humans have nutritional needs and that failing to meet them can have negative consequences. There is no debate on that.
All I am saying is people need to quit saying CICO is all that matters and eat what you like. That is terrible advice. They should say you should find a healthy balance incorporate things you like and be mindful of your nutrition. Many people get the wrong ideas when you say to eat whatever as long as it fits your goals.
Would your advice be the exact same for a morbidly obese 400-pound person who has suffered from terrible eating habits their entire life as it would be for a bodybuilder at 10% who's trying to cut the last few pounds of bodyfat?
Context matters.
Yes, it would be. Eat nutritious food limit food that is considered unhealthy. The calorie count would be different but the type of food would be the same.
Then your advice is bad. It is more healthy for the morbidly obese person to eat a diet they can stick to and actually lose weight. Losing weight creates more health benefits for them than a few vegetables would.
In that case, the "eat anything you want" argument you keep saying is all over the boards would be true.
That was exactly my point.
And PP said exactly what I figured he/she would say. LOL.3 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Again, ideas for WEIGHT LOSS. The only way to create weight loss is CICO.
Again, they gave her no ideas. Just the same as long as it fits crap.6
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