If You Eat Cookies, Cakes, Ice Cream Daily Do You Consider Yourself Dieting?
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nutmegoreo wrote: »I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.
I had pizza for lunch - way too much pizza! Now it's 8:40pm and I'm still not hungry so guess I'll be staying within my calories, too. Virtuously sinful?
Wine sounds good.
I'll save seats for you in my handbasket/bus. It's going to be a big crowd. But we have all the good foods.
Oooh, can there be ice cream?6 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.
I had pizza for lunch - way too much pizza! Now it's 8:40pm and I'm still not hungry so guess I'll be staying within my calories, too. Virtuously sinful?
Wine sounds good.
I'll save seats for you in my handbasket/bus. It's going to be a big crowd. But we have all the good foods.
Oooh, can there be ice cream?
I'm not going unless there's ice cream.8 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.
I had pizza for lunch - way too much pizza! Now it's 8:40pm and I'm still not hungry so guess I'll be staying within my calories, too. Virtuously sinful?
Wine sounds good.
I'll save seats for you in my handbasket/bus. It's going to be a big crowd. But we have all the good foods.
One of my main criteria for vacation destinations is good food, so I'm in!
Destination is promised to be warm!5 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.
I had pizza for lunch - way too much pizza! Now it's 8:40pm and I'm still not hungry so guess I'll be staying within my calories, too. Virtuously sinful?
Wine sounds good.
I'll save seats for you in my handbasket/bus. It's going to be a big crowd. But we have all the good foods.
Oooh, can there be ice cream?
Of course! I was going to list all of the goodies, but it was becoming a very long list.5 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.
I had pizza for lunch - way too much pizza! Now it's 8:40pm and I'm still not hungry so guess I'll be staying within my calories, too. Virtuously sinful?
Wine sounds good.
I'll save seats for you in my handbasket/bus. It's going to be a big crowd. But we have all the good foods.
One of my main criteria for vacation destinations is good food, so I'm in!
Destination is promised to be warm!
As long as it doesn't melt the ice cream.5 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.
I had pizza for lunch - way too much pizza! Now it's 8:40pm and I'm still not hungry so guess I'll be staying within my calories, too. Virtuously sinful?
Wine sounds good.
I'll save seats for you in my handbasket/bus. It's going to be a big crowd. But we have all the good foods.
One of my main criteria for vacation destinations is good food, so I'm in!
Destination is promised to be warm!
As long as it doesn't melt the ice cream.
Refrigeration/freezers, no guarantees once we reach our destination though.3 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.
I had pizza for lunch - way too much pizza! Now it's 8:40pm and I'm still not hungry so guess I'll be staying within my calories, too. Virtuously sinful?
Wine sounds good.
I'll save seats for you in my handbasket/bus. It's going to be a big crowd. But we have all the good foods.
One of my main criteria for vacation destinations is good food, so I'm in!
Destination is promised to be warm!
As long as it doesn't melt the ice cream.
Refrigeration/freezers, no guarantees once we reach our destination though.
Is travel insurance available? I really don't want my Ben & Jerry's cookies and cream cheesecake core to melt. Maybe I'll just eat it all in one sitting to be sure.7 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »This thread is so liberating. It's actually made me feel better about eating and logging calorie dense foods. I still have some residual, ultimately useless guilt from decades of moral lecturing from all quarters about foods labelled junk, bad and lethal, which sometimes makes me embarrassed to log those things, but really I would just be doing myself a disservice if I didn't log everything. I'm the one eating it, after all. So I've prelogged my Macdo Monday. I shall be having a sundae lunch and a Mcflurry dinner. And I shall jolly well enjoy every last spoonful.
So, there I am, face to face with some sort of wildly tempting Calorie-Dense Edible. I figure I have three choices -
1) I can eat it but not log it in, knowing that I will be lying to my food diary and myself.
2) I can eat it and log it in, knowing that I will either need to cut back at other meals or accept going over on some of my goals.
3) I can choose not to eat it.
Morally, I consider each of these to be about the same, because lying to myself harms no one but the liar. Emotionally, I prefer to avoid #1, because I have been sometimes been harmed by the lies of that particular liar; and I don't like to remind myself of it.
Choosing between #2 and #3 focuses my mind on the question of just how much I want to lose weight, and that of how much I want not to log that food item in. In reality, I probably choose #3 about 70% of the time.
That said, I have been keeping my diary closed because I didn't want anyone to see this meal:
So now I might as well go ahead and open it.
That is a horribly unbalanced breakfast - where's the chocolate?
Says the person who just ate caramel & chocolate ice cream and angel food cake for dinner - which only fit my calories because I feel like cwap and slept all day so didn't eat.14 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.I'm having pizza for dinner because it fits in my calories and I want it. I'm not sure if I should feel virtuous for staying within my calorie allowance or sinful because pizza.
I'm also having a glass of wine. I guess I'm going straight to hell.
I had pizza for lunch - way too much pizza! Now it's 8:40pm and I'm still not hungry so guess I'll be staying within my calories, too. Virtuously sinful?
Wine sounds good. @Tacklewasher
I'll save seats for you in my handbasket/bus. It's going to be a big crowd. But we have all the good foods.
One of my main criteria for vacation destinations is good food, so I'm in!
Destination is promised to be warm!
As long as it doesn't melt the ice cream.
Refrigeration/freezers, no guarantees once we reach our destination though.
Is travel insurance available? I really don't want my Ben & Jerry's cookies and cream cheesecake core to melt. Maybe I'll just eat it all in one sitting to be sure.
If you are going to be this difficult, you'll be uninvited right quick.5 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »This thread is so liberating. It's actually made me feel better about eating and logging calorie dense foods. I still have some residual, ultimately useless guilt from decades of moral lecturing from all quarters about foods labelled junk, bad and lethal, which sometimes makes me embarrassed to log those things, but really I would just be doing myself a disservice if I didn't log everything. I'm the one eating it, after all. So I've prelogged my Macdo Monday. I shall be having a sundae lunch and a Mcflurry dinner. And I shall jolly well enjoy every last spoonful.
So, there I am, face to face with some sort of wildly tempting Calorie-Dense Edible. I figure I have three choices -
1) I can eat it but not log it in, knowing that I will be lying to my food diary and myself.
2) I can eat it and log it in, knowing that I will either need to cut back at other meals or accept going over on some of my goals.
3) I can choose not to eat it.
Morally, I consider each of these to be about the same, because lying to myself harms no one but the liar. Emotionally, I prefer to avoid #1, because I have been sometimes been harmed by the lies of that particular liar; and I don't like to remind myself of it.
Choosing between #2 and #3 focuses my mind on the question of just how much I want to lose weight, and that of how much I want not to log that food item in. In reality, I probably choose #3 about 70% of the time.
That said, I have been keeping my diary closed because I didn't want anyone to see this meal:
So now I might as well go ahead and open it.
That is a horribly unbalanced breakfast - where's the chocolate?
Says the person who just ate caramel & chocolate ice cream and angel food cake for dinner - which only fit my calories because I feel like cwap and slept all day so didn't eat.
If you feel unwell, there's nothing wrong with eating whatever is appealing and will sit well. :bigsmile:4 -
QuilterInVA wrote: »People eat crap loaded with sugar and feel virtuous because they are in a calorie deficit. Actually what you eat is more important. Protein requires more calories to burn than fat, followed by fat, with carbs a poor third. CICO has been disproved.
I am very interested in seeing your peer reviewed scholarship that disproves CICO. CICO is literally just a mathematical equation that describes the body's metabolic process.
I eat plenty of sugar. Most people who've been here for a while probably know that I ate chocolate every day while I was losing 100 pounds, and have continued to eat chocolate every day in maintenance. It never made me feel particularly virtuous, although it often makes me feel satisfied with my dietary choices.14 -
Today I had coffee cake for breakfast with a vanilla coffee protein shake and it reminded me of this thread. My calories and macros for the meal were on point. My fiber for the day usually sorts itself out because I snack heavily on vegetables, plus my planned lunch for today is borscht (hearty beet and vegetable soup) with sour cream, chicken, and very flavorful bread (again, great macros). I don't know what I will have for dinner, but it won't be any different than usual when I don't have cake for breakfast.
Wonder if the sugar will somehow remove all the nutrients from my vegetables and all the protein from my chicken.
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Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »This thread is so liberating. It's actually made me feel better about eating and logging calorie dense foods. I still have some residual, ultimately useless guilt from decades of moral lecturing from all quarters about foods labelled junk, bad and lethal, which sometimes makes me embarrassed to log those things, but really I would just be doing myself a disservice if I didn't log everything. I'm the one eating it, after all. So I've prelogged my Macdo Monday. I shall be having a sundae lunch and a Mcflurry dinner. And I shall jolly well enjoy every last spoonful.
So, there I am, face to face with some sort of wildly tempting Calorie-Dense Edible. I figure I have three choices -
1) I can eat it but not log it in, knowing that I will be lying to my food diary and myself.
2) I can eat it and log it in, knowing that I will either need to cut back at other meals or accept going over on some of my goals.
3) I can choose not to eat it.
Morally, I consider each of these to be about the same, because lying to myself harms no one but the liar. Emotionally, I prefer to avoid #1, because I have been sometimes been harmed by the lies of that particular liar; and I don't like to remind myself of it.
Choosing between #2 and #3 focuses my mind on the question of just how much I want to lose weight, and that of how much I want not to log that food item in. In reality, I probably choose #3 about 70% of the time.
That said, I have been keeping my diary closed because I didn't want anyone to see this meal:
So now I might as well go ahead and open it.
That is a horribly unbalanced breakfast - where's the chocolate?
Says the person who just ate caramel & chocolate ice cream and angel food cake for dinner - which only fit my calories because I feel like cwap and slept all day so didn't eat.
Then I finished reading the sentence.
Thanks for the belly laugh.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »Today I had coffee cake for breakfast with a vanilla coffee protein shake and it reminded me of this thread. My calories and macros for the meal were on point. My fiber for the day usually sorts itself out because I snack heavily on vegetables, plus my planned lunch for today is borscht (hearty beet and vegetable soup) with sour cream, chicken, and very flavorful bread (again, great macros). I don't know what I will have for dinner, but it won't be any different than usual when I don't have cake for breakfast.
Wonder if the sugar will somehow remove all the nutrients from my vegetables and all the protein from my chicken.
Of course, sugar is the super nutrient that cancels out all other nutrients.
(For newbies who will inevitably read this thread: I'M JOKING.)9 -
QuilterInVA wrote: »People eat crap loaded with sugar and feel virtuous because they are in a calorie deficit. Actually what you eat is more important. Protein requires more calories to burn than fat, followed by fat, with carbs a poor third. CICO has been disproved.10
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"Diet" is a four letter word. To me it's about being mindful of how much I eat, how many calories I intake. Wine, beer, chocolate and pizza are all part of what I eat. I just do not to eat the entire pint of ice-cream in one sitting, or eat an entire pizza.2
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I eat junk food once a week on my diet3
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QuilterInVA wrote: »People eat crap loaded with sugar and feel virtuous because they are in a calorie deficit. Actually what you eat is more important. Protein requires more calories to burn than fat, followed by fat, with carbs a poor third. CICO has been disproved.
It has? Really???
Damn. Does that mean I have to give back the 74 pounds I've lost (and maintained the loss for a year so far) by staying in a calorie deficit and including sugary and fat-laden treat foods in my diet in reasonable quantities? Or do I get to keep the loss and just know that it doesn't count from now on?
(Oh, and BTW - you might want to research those figures on TEF. Because you're wrong about that too.)18 -
QuilterInVA wrote: »People eat crap loaded with sugar and feel virtuous because they are in a calorie deficit. Actually what you eat is more important. Protein requires more calories to burn than fat, followed by fat, with carbs a poor third. CICO has been disproved.
It has? Really???
Damn. Does that mean I have to give back the 74 pounds I've lost (and maintained the loss for a year so far) by staying in a calorie deficit and including sugary and fat-laden treat foods in my diet in reasonable quantities? Or do I get to keep the loss and just know that it doesn't count from now on?
(Oh, and BTW - you might want to research those figures on TEF. Because you're wrong about that too.)
I am NOT giving back my sixteen stone! Oh well, if QuilterInVA doesn’t want those pastries, I guess there are more for me7 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »This thread is so liberating. It's actually made me feel better about eating and logging calorie dense foods. I still have some residual, ultimately useless guilt from decades of moral lecturing from all quarters about foods labelled junk, bad and lethal, which sometimes makes me embarrassed to log those things, but really I would just be doing myself a disservice if I didn't log everything. I'm the one eating it, after all. So I've prelogged my Macdo Monday. I shall be having a sundae lunch and a Mcflurry dinner. And I shall jolly well enjoy every last spoonful.
So, there I am, face to face with some sort of wildly tempting Calorie-Dense Edible. I figure I have three choices -
1) I can eat it but not log it in, knowing that I will be lying to my food diary and myself.
2) I can eat it and log it in, knowing that I will either need to cut back at other meals or accept going over on some of my goals.
3) I can choose not to eat it.
Morally, I consider each of these to be about the same, because lying to myself harms no one but the liar. Emotionally, I prefer to avoid #1, because I have been sometimes been harmed by the lies of that particular liar; and I don't like to remind myself of it.
Choosing between #2 and #3 focuses my mind on the question of just how much I want to lose weight, and that of how much I want not to log that food item in. In reality, I probably choose #3 about 70% of the time.
That said, I have been keeping my diary closed because I didn't want anyone to see this meal:
So now I might as well go ahead and open it.
That is a horribly unbalanced breakfast - where's the chocolate?
Says the person who just ate caramel & chocolate ice cream and angel food cake for dinner - which only fit my calories because I feel like cwap and slept all day so didn't eat.
Then I finished reading the sentence.
Thanks for the belly laugh.
My first thought was mmm cookie dough.2
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