If You Eat Cookies, Cakes, Ice Cream Daily Do You Consider Yourself Dieting?
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You have to be able to eat in a way that is sustainable for you. If you only eat “clean” or think of it as a diet it will backfire on you. I eat healthy Whole Foods most of the time but I sure love my chocolate and have it every day. It’s the only way I can eat at a deficit without feeling deprived.12
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »meagan8376 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »dragonghost wrote: »@paperpudding i guess i touched on a sensitive subject.
Looking at your diary your a prime example of why i said what i said, your eating more snacks then your breakfast an your dinner combined.
You almost ate as much for your biggest meal as compared to your junk food.
I'm not a fan of creeping diaries. It's none of my business. And it's none of yours. Public slagging of people's diaries is exactly why this thread was started, so I guess it seems we've come full circle.
At least we know who's wearing the superior slacks.
People look at other diaries and make judgments all the time on here. Just because it's not what you want to hear or don't like it doesn't automatically mean she's coming from a mean place doesn't seem like that at all. If you take offence to it or feel some kind of way, that's a personal issue within yourself.
People may look at other diaries; someone dragging them into a public conversation to slag off another person who said something they didn't like is another thing altogether. It was completely unnecessary. If you can't see that, then I suggest that's a personal issue within *yourself*. You've been passive aggressive and downright rude. You're coming off as an immature teenager just because some people disagreed with your rather narrow views of how you think people ought to manage their weight, which, incidentally, is none of your business. if you want to defend this person's weak attempt at public humiliation that's your lookout, but it's a pretty poor showing on your part.
QFT.
Oh, and in for the handbasket!!
I shall be bringing Jim Beam. I'll be needing a stiff one. I'll have the drink after.9 -
I once had to convince a lot of skeptical higher-ups that I was right about a technical issue at work. I was young and inexperienced (and a woman(!)); but they all caved after they read the name of the stuff we we talking about, and then heard me pronounce it: "diallyl phthalate."OK, caught up. The food-shaming is ridiculous. What makes people think "junk food" is completely devoid of nutrition? Let alone the number of us who calculate our calories and nutrition on a weekly basis? Although I have to say I believe some of the *kitten* stirring is more along the lines of baiting rather than actual discussion points.
I just had vegan hot dogs for dinner. They gave me about 25% of my daily protein and about 30% of my iron. They also had more sodium than I would usually have in a meal, and I'm guessing they don't count as "clean." I enjoyed them and plan to have them again soon. They fit my daily calorie goal. Are they "junk food" or not? Wearing the judgypants is tough.
How many ingredients did they have? And could you pronounce all of them? We can't judge without all the information.
17 and I can pronounce them all, but I got a biology degree. I don't know what people eat if they don't have science degrees. Taking chemistry classes means you get to eat more foods since you know what all the ingredients are, right?
I wouldn't eat it though - it was for an electrical insulator part.
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Millicent3015 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »meagan8376 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »dragonghost wrote: »@paperpudding i guess i touched on a sensitive subject.
Looking at your diary your a prime example of why i said what i said, your eating more snacks then your breakfast an your dinner combined.
You almost ate as much for your biggest meal as compared to your junk food.
I'm not a fan of creeping diaries. It's none of my business. And it's none of yours. Public slagging of people's diaries is exactly why this thread was started, so I guess it seems we've come full circle.
At least we know who's wearing the superior slacks.
People look at other diaries and make judgments all the time on here. Just because it's not what you want to hear or don't like it doesn't automatically mean she's coming from a mean place doesn't seem like that at all. If you take offence to it or feel some kind of way, that's a personal issue within yourself.
People may look at other diaries; someone dragging them into a public conversation to slag off another person who said something they didn't like is another thing altogether. It was completely unnecessary. If you can't see that, then I suggest that's a personal issue within *yourself*. You've been passive aggressive and downright rude. You're coming off as an immature teenager just because some people disagreed with your rather narrow views of how you think people ought to manage their weight, which, incidentally, is none of your business. if you want to defend this person's weak attempt at public humiliation that's your lookout, but it's a pretty poor showing on your part.
QFT.
Oh, and in for the handbasket!!
I shall be bringing Jim Beam. I'll be needing a stiff one. I'll have the drink after.
Our train seems to be lacking in men.
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I am waiting on my annual restocking order right now! Should be here any day now
I admire your restraint in placing only one order a year. I go through Fox Point, smoked paprika, minced and granulated garlic, and granulated and minced toasted onion ridiculously fast.
The highlight of a recent trip for me was getting to go to an actual Penzeys store. I fangirled so much that they gave me four bumper stickers for all the people who have seen mine and wanted one, and they asked if I also wanted one of the employee aprons. They were REALLY fast to clarify that they were joking about the apron--I might have taken them up on it otherwise.
I order big bags! We go through a ton of smoked paprika, too. Also ancho chili, French thyme, cumin, pizza seasoning, and Maharaja
There's a store about 90 miles from me. Smells. So. Good!! I could just wander around sniffing things for hours.2 -
I am waiting on my annual restocking order right now! Should be here any day now
I admire your restraint in placing only one order a year. I go through Fox Point, smoked paprika, minced and granulated garlic, and granulated and minced toasted onion ridiculously fast.
The highlight of a recent trip for me was getting to go to an actual Penzeys store. I fangirled so much that they gave me four bumper stickers for all the people who have seen mine and wanted one, and they asked if I also wanted one of the employee aprons. They were REALLY fast to clarify that they were joking about the apron--I might have taken them up on it otherwise.
I order big bags! We go through a ton of smoked paprika, too. Also ancho chili, French thyme, cumin, pizza seasoning, and Maharaja
There's a store about 90 miles from me. Smells. So. Good!! I could just wander around sniffing things for hours.
I think your seat would be secured by a dinner invitation. :bigsmile:4 -
collectingblues wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »
This is Abby. She spends half her life judging me, and a solid 1/3 of her life begging for salmon, turkey, cereal, or vodka.
She looks like she could be Ashley's sister! For a minute I was wondering how you got a picture of my cat
Also, your cat loves cereal and vodka...she'll fit right in here.
If given the opportunity, she will also take coffee, gin, and cosmos. My OldLadyGirlCat is such a lush.
Dessert toppings! Alcoholic whipped cream, in a can.
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collectingblues wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »
This is Abby. She spends half her life judging me, and a solid 1/3 of her life begging for salmon, turkey, cereal, or vodka.
She looks like she could be Ashley's sister! For a minute I was wondering how you got a picture of my cat Also, your cat loves cereal and vodka...she'll fit right in here.
If given the opportunity, she will also take coffee, gin, and cosmos. My OldLadyGirlCat is such a lush.
Dessert toppings! Alcoholic whipped cream, in a can.
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collectingblues wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »
This is Abby. She spends half her life judging me, and a solid 1/3 of her life begging for salmon, turkey, cereal, or vodka.
She looks like she could be Ashley's sister! For a minute I was wondering how you got a picture of my cat Also, your cat loves cereal and vodka...she'll fit right in here.
If given the opportunity, she will also take coffee, gin, and cosmos. My OldLadyGirlCat is such a lush.
Dessert toppings! Alcoholic whipped cream, in a can.
Dessert topping? Nah, just straight from the can into my mouth!
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I’ll bring Pearl. Her eyes IRL are much greener and scarier looking in real life, so she’ll fit right in.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »meagan8376 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »dragonghost wrote: »@paperpudding i guess i touched on a sensitive subject.
Looking at your diary your a prime example of why i said what i said, your eating more snacks then your breakfast an your dinner combined.
You almost ate as much for your biggest meal as compared to your junk food.
I'm not a fan of creeping diaries. It's none of my business. And it's none of yours. Public slagging of people's diaries is exactly why this thread was started, so I guess it seems we've come full circle.
At least we know who's wearing the superior slacks.
People look at other diaries and make judgments all the time on here. Just because it's not what you want to hear or don't like it doesn't automatically mean she's coming from a mean place doesn't seem like that at all. If you take offence to it or feel some kind of way, that's a personal issue within yourself.
People may look at other diaries; someone dragging them into a public conversation to slag off another person who said something they didn't like is another thing altogether. It was completely unnecessary. If you can't see that, then I suggest that's a personal issue within *yourself*. You've been passive aggressive and downright rude. You're coming off as an immature teenager just because some people disagreed with your rather narrow views of how you think people ought to manage their weight, which, incidentally, is none of your business. if you want to defend this person's weak attempt at public humiliation that's your lookout, but it's a pretty poor showing on your part.
QFT.
Oh, and in for the handbasket!!
I shall be bringing Jim Beam. I'll be needing a stiff one. I'll have the drink after.
Our train seems to be lacking in men.
Isn’t that always the case?2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »meagan8376 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »dragonghost wrote: »@paperpudding i guess i touched on a sensitive subject.
Looking at your diary your a prime example of why i said what i said, your eating more snacks then your breakfast an your dinner combined.
You almost ate as much for your biggest meal as compared to your junk food.
I'm not a fan of creeping diaries. It's none of my business. And it's none of yours. Public slagging of people's diaries is exactly why this thread was started, so I guess it seems we've come full circle.
At least we know who's wearing the superior slacks.
People look at other diaries and make judgments all the time on here. Just because it's not what you want to hear or don't like it doesn't automatically mean she's coming from a mean place doesn't seem like that at all. If you take offence to it or feel some kind of way, that's a personal issue within yourself.
People may look at other diaries; someone dragging them into a public conversation to slag off another person who said something they didn't like is another thing altogether. It was completely unnecessary. If you can't see that, then I suggest that's a personal issue within *yourself*. You've been passive aggressive and downright rude. You're coming off as an immature teenager just because some people disagreed with your rather narrow views of how you think people ought to manage their weight, which, incidentally, is none of your business. if you want to defend this person's weak attempt at public humiliation that's your lookout, but it's a pretty poor showing on your part.
QFT. @Tacklewasher
Oh, and in for the handbasket!!
I shall be bringing Jim Beam. I'll be needing a stiff one. I'll have the drink after.
Our train seems to be lacking in men.
Who oh who could we invite??
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Sundance says sorry to be joining the party late but he was busy napping all day
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paperpudding wrote: »dragonghost wrote: »Don't see anything wrong with eating things like that once in a while if it fits into your calorie goal.
Though would it be a good idea to make it your only source of food no.
Not because of losing weight more to do with the other health problems you may end up with.
I dont think anyone was seriously suggesting making chocolate cake or 'things like that' your only source of food, were they??
Okay, I am really confused.dragonghost wrote: »@paperpudding i guess i touched on a sensitive subject.
Looking at your diary your a prime example of why i said what i said, your eating more snacks then your breakfast an your dinner combined.
You almost ate as much for your biggest meal as compared to your junk food.
If I understand @dragonghost correctly, he made two points in his first post:
1) There's nothing wrong with eating things like those in the thread title once in a while if they fit into your calorie goal.
2) It would not be a good idea to make things like those in the thread title one's only source of food, because of other health problems one might end up with.
@paperpudding responded to say that no one had suggested making chocolate cake or things like those in the thread title one's only source of food, implying that @dragonghost's second point was moot.
@dragonghost replied that he appeared to have touched on a sensitive subject, on the grounds that @paperpudding's food diary shows that:
1) the caloric value of her snacks was almost equal to the sum caloric values of two of her other meals, and
2) the caloric value of her largest meal was almost equal to the caloric value of her junk food (presumably meaning her snacks).
So, @dragonghost -
Did you mean to say that @paperpudding seems defensive about chocolate cake and things like those in the thread title being her "only source of food"?
Because either I misunderstood her response to your first post, or that's the complete opposite of what she said.
Also, having creeped her food diary myself, I found that her snacks added up to less than 31% of her caloric intake for September 4th. And what she ate on September 4th is not representative of how she ate on any other days in September (I got tired of creeping before I got as far as August).
(My guess is that having 31% of her calories come from tasty calorie-dense snacks could mean that @paperpudding was either having a very good day, or a very bad one. And my opinion is that in either case, the polite and decent thing would be to leave her alone about it.)
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kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »dragonghost wrote: »@paperpudding i guess i touched on a sensitive subject.
Looking at your diary your a prime example of why i said what i said, your eating more snacks then your breakfast an your dinner combined.
You almost ate as much for your biggest meal as compared to your junk food.
I'm not a fan of creeping diaries. It's none of my business. And it's none of yours. Public slagging of people's diaries is exactly why this thread was started, so I guess it seems we've come full circle.
At least we know who's wearing the superior slacks.
Especially given this:
I could hear this gif
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collectingblues wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »
This is Abby. She spends half her life judging me, and a solid 1/3 of her life begging for salmon, turkey, cereal, or vodka.
She looks like she could be Ashley's sister! For a minute I was wondering how you got a picture of my cat Also, your cat loves cereal and vodka...she'll fit right in here.
If given the opportunity, she will also take coffee, gin, and cosmos. My OldLadyGirlCat is such a lush.
Dessert toppings! Alcoholic whipped cream, in a can.
WHAT the whip-its would be spectacular.2 -
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We’re on our 2nd one!3 -
middlehaitch wrote: »We have the savoury, we have the sweet, but where are the 'Ladies Lugging Luxury Libations'
We need more than piña coladas to swill the sweet and savoury down.
Cheers, h.
(It killed me to refer to women as ladies, but I had to go with the alliteration)
I'm all about reclaiming the terms "lady" and "ladies" for subversive purposes. I once owned a t-shirt that said "Ladies Sewing Circle and Terrorist Society" . . . wish I could find it. It sadly got too big, somehow, though. 13 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Millicent3015 wrote: »meagan8376 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »dragonghost wrote: »@paperpudding i guess i touched on a sensitive subject.
Looking at your diary your a prime example of why i said what i said, your eating more snacks then your breakfast an your dinner combined.
You almost ate as much for your biggest meal as compared to your junk food.
I'm not a fan of creeping diaries. It's none of my business. And it's none of yours. Public slagging of people's diaries is exactly why this thread was started, so I guess it seems we've come full circle.
At least we know who's wearing the superior slacks.
People look at other diaries and make judgments all the time on here. Just because it's not what you want to hear or don't like it doesn't automatically mean she's coming from a mean place doesn't seem like that at all. If you take offence to it or feel some kind of way, that's a personal issue within yourself.
People may look at other diaries; someone dragging them into a public conversation to slag off another person who said something they didn't like is another thing altogether. It was completely unnecessary. If you can't see that, then I suggest that's a personal issue within *yourself*. You've been passive aggressive and downright rude. You're coming off as an immature teenager just because some people disagreed with your rather narrow views of how you think people ought to manage their weight, which, incidentally, is none of your business. if you want to defend this person's weak attempt at public humiliation that's your lookout, but it's a pretty poor showing on your part.
QFT.
Oh, and in for the handbasket!!
I shall be bringing Jim Beam. I'll be needing a stiff one. I'll have the drink after.
Our train seems to be lacking in men.
In my experience (cough), it's usually pretty easy to pick them up on the way to where we're headed . . . if we need any.
BTW, planning to wear my moralistic muu-muu, topped with a sanctimonious shrug until we get to the warmer climes. I'll bring Ellison Brewery IPA ('cos delicious, and mug club discount - I am that reprobate ) and at least one vegetarian entree - probably filo cheese pie with fresh rosemary, for one. 6 -
dragonghost wrote: »@paperpudding i guess i touched on a sensitive subject.
Looking at your diary your a prime example of why i said what i said, your eating more snacks then your breakfast an your dinner combined.
You almost ate as much for your biggest meal as compared to your junk food.
Interesting.
I point out that nobody has suggested eating chocolate cake and similar as their only source of food and you respond by looking at my diary and making a snarky comment.
No I don't think I am sensitive about this subject and not sure how my comment led to that conclusion.
I have also said many times that I make no claim to eating clean by any definition and that I follow lazy logging, just enough accountability to myself to keep in maitenance.
One lazy thing I do is record something wherever it has been recorded before - so if it is in,for example, my breakfast list but I eat it for dinner, I log it as breakfast.
So what you think was my biggest meal may or may not have been.
( not sure why size of meals is relevant)
Nor why anyone wants to comment on my personal diary at all - how is that relevant when I have made no claims about my personal intake or request for input on it ????
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I haven't posted in forums for ages, but this thread caught my eye. I eat cookies, cake, ice cream or potato chips daily. Not all of them every day. But at least one of them almost every day. I have maintained my weight loss for over a year. Because portion control is a thing.
To be blunt, I'd go nuts if all I ate was lean protein and green vegetables (and I don't even want to think about how much of them I'd have to consume to hit my calorie target!). I have higher cal days and lower cal days, and I log them all. Because, at the end of the day, all that matters are the averages. Bodies need fat, and if I want to have a lettuce-wrapped burger and yam fries for lunch, that's actually a pretty decent choice all things considered. If I want to have chocolate every day, that helps with the fat intake too (which is something I've always struggled with).
Why do I log if I'm not "dieting"? Because logging gives me awareness. It lets me know how many calories I can or can't afford on an evening snack. It lets me know if I have lots of calories to spend at dinner or if I should be a little more frugal. And because if I don't log, I'll probably experience portion creep and see my weight start to climb again. To prevent that, I log.17 -
Meet Mohawk.
She never judges me for what I eat. Probably because she's a cat and she wants a bit.
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My personal balance trainer who likes to chill out in the most awkward positions and places so that I have to maneuver my way around him. He also doesn't judge my food choices, but can be very judgy of the food choices I make for him (why can't I have chocolate? *whine*)
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