Is Keto Worth it?
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This is good info I've been looking for, thanks!1
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Maybe worth it if you need to control epileptic seizures. Otherwise simpler lifelong eating behavior changes are much easier and lasting
That's going to vary from individual to individual too. I find keto much easier to follow than everything in moderation. More health benefits for me too.2 -
Inspiration15 wrote: »I am CONSIDERING Keto. It seems so drastic to me. If you eat a cookie the weight will come back. Anyone successful on this? Was it hard?
Drastic to me means doing a WOE that leads from health to Type 2 Diabetes.
Keto has never been a weight loss program but a WOE for people fighting a premature death due to health failure from any causes. For me it is pain manage first of all then to try and prevent cataracts, heart disease and cancer but not necessarily in that order.
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Don't listen to the naysayers, they clearly don't know what they're talking about. I lost a good 60lbs doing Keto before having to back off it due to bodybuilding. Hitting Keto Macros for the amount I work out these days is just not doable (hundreds of grams of fat etc..), however it works well. It's still all calories in and calories out but it does have some added benefits. I found my mental clarity sharper and I slept better too. There are also a lot of good low or no carb foods out there now, including breads and pastas ( check out netrition.com's low carb products) which makes it much easier than it used to be. It's the only diet that has seriously worked for me outside of doing weightwatchers with my mom when I was fat teenager back in the 80s.
I put it like this - "You can't have your cake and eat it too, but you can have a big salad, and a big steak with creamy whipped cauliflower!" Don't listen to the latest Keto scares you see out there - My LDLs and HDLS were fine while doing Keto etc., and the recent study that claimed people on low carb diets die sooner turned out to be cherry picked BS - And there's one cardiologist that says "Nobody should be doing the keto diet!" - They all assume people are only eating bacon, eggs, cheese, and meat etc. You can have tons of veggies and some fruits as well. Give it a shot, but be warned the first week is pretty brutal until your body runs out of glycogen and switches over to ketones. Have stuff around to cook. It helps to dirty diet during this phase - I.E. While you're body is using up it's glycogen stores it will be -screaming- for carbs. This is where a lot of people fail, and it helps to have fatty, tasty things during this period (Bacon and Eggs w/cheese and sour cream etc..) It tickles the right centers of the brain and blunts the craving. You also go through 'keto flu' which is a day or two as your body is running its glycogen stores dry. Feel pretty wretched and craving sweet things.. then it vanishes.21 -
Maybe worth it if you need to control epileptic seizures. Otherwise simpler lifelong eating behavior changes are much easier and lasting
That's going to vary from individual to individual too. I find keto much easier to follow than everything in moderation. More health benefits for me too.
Actually it is the only successful WOE I have found. I do wish I had found it at age 23 instead of 63 but hey better late than never.
While I did not do Keto to lose weight I still lost from 250 to 195 in the first 9 months starting Oct 2014 without trying and have maintained that loss for over three years without thought to the calories other than them fitting my Keto macros.
Hands down the best WOE for my life. Others may have different WOE's and be very valid.
Oh I forgot. Keto did not work for me until I realized I was a carb addict and had to leave most of them cold turkey in my case because tapering off was not working and it was only 30 days before I was to start Enbrel injections for pain management but thankfully pain management was well underway in 30 days. It was day 45 before I lost my first pound of weight so weight loss was not the cause of my pain management but to cutting carbs down to 50 grams daily. The was easy after the first two weeks when the cravings that lead to binging started to fade fast.
Keto is worth it many times over for four years now at the age of 67 with the best health markers in 30 years with no medical treatment of any kind suggested by my MD.
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A diet in which will allow you to be most compliant & stick to long term is going to be what works.
Agreed with other posters about nothing magical about keto. Those who have lost weight & kept it off long term with keto: good job in making it a lifestyle habit.8 -
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Actually it is the only successful WOE I have found. I do wish I had found it at age 23 instead of 63 but hey better late than never.
I wish I had found keto 40 years ago myself.4 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Inspiration15 wrote: »I am CONSIDERING Keto. It seems so drastic to me. If you eat a cookie the weight will come back. Anyone successful on this? Was it hard?
Drastic to me means doing a WOE that leads from health to Type 2 Diabetes.
Keto has never been a weight loss program but a WOE for people fighting a premature death due to health failure from any causes. For me it is pain manage first of all then to try and prevent cataracts, heart disease and cancer but not necessarily in that order.
So now Keto fights premature death from any causes?
No. Just, no.
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snickerscharlie wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Inspiration15 wrote: »I am CONSIDERING Keto. It seems so drastic to me. If you eat a cookie the weight will come back. Anyone successful on this? Was it hard?
Drastic to me means doing a WOE that leads from health to Type 2 Diabetes.
Keto has never been a weight loss program but a WOE for people fighting a premature death due to health failure from any causes. For me it is pain manage first of all then to try and prevent cataracts, heart disease and cancer but not necessarily in that order.
So now Keto fights premature death from any causes?
No. Just, no.
I had an arm amputated and keto made me regrow my arm back!
Keto also cured my sisters friends cousin of athletes foot and jock itch.
#facts
#dontaskforsources lol
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Hello! I just started Keto last Tuesday and as of today I hit a 10Ib weight loss! I am soooo stoked. Starting next week I am going to start incorporating gym activity. Thus far for me it has worked really well and I have yet to experience the "Keto Flu" because I have been making sure I replenish my electrolytes through salt and potassium. Keto is like anything, you have to be dedicated and committed. If you are looking for something short term then of course the results won't sustain but if you are looking long term with physical activity, Keto can work wonders. I have two friends who have been on it for 3mo and lost over 25Ibs each and they go to the gym as well. One went to Hawaii a month ago and enjoyed herself on vacay with food and drink and she only gained 5Ibs but lost it and then some when she went back on Keto after she returned. So if you make it a lifestyle change versus a diet with allowances now again you will be fine 😁6
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There are no magical diets. Keto works great for some people, CICO works for everyone, well it is how we all lose weight. And some people prefer to count calories. Some people use different methods to follow. It really comes down to what each individual person finds the easiest to follow and they can be successful with over the long haul. No right or wrong way. And no convincing others there way is better or worse that others.
I know for me, the really low carbs, and super high fat content I personally would not follow faithfully. I easily can do 50 carbs per day but 20 not happening, even at net carbs. And the whole full fat thing um not with genetic makeup of my family. But again I have some friends been doing Keto for a year lost weight, maintaining, still on Keto and content so power to them.6 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Inspiration15 wrote: »I am CONSIDERING Keto. It seems so drastic to me. If you eat a cookie the weight will come back. Anyone successful on this? Was it hard?
Drastic to me means doing a WOE that leads from health to Type 2 Diabetes.
Keto has never been a weight loss program but a WOE for people fighting a premature death due to health failure from any causes.
Please stop making unsubstantiated medical claims.10 -
Cake_Flanks wrote: »Don't listen to the naysayers, they clearly don't know what they're talking about. I lost a good 60lbs doing Keto before having to back off it due to bodybuilding. Hitting Keto Macros for the amount I work out these days is just not doable (hundreds of grams of fat etc..), however it works well. It's still all calories in and calories out but it does have some added benefits. I found my mental clarity sharper and I slept better too. There are also a lot of good low or no carb foods out there now, including breads and pastas ( check out netrition.com's low carb products) which makes it much easier than it used to be. It's the only diet that has seriously worked for me outside of doing weightwatchers with my mom when I was fat teenager back in the 80s.
I put it like this - "You can't have your cake and eat it too, but you can have a big salad, and a big steak with creamy whipped cauliflower!" Don't listen to the latest Keto scares you see out there - My LDLs and HDLS were fine while doing Keto etc., and the recent study that claimed people on low carb diets die sooner turned out to be cherry picked BS - And there's one cardiologist that says "Nobody should be doing the keto diet!" - They all assume people are only eating bacon, eggs, cheese, and meat etc. You can have tons of veggies and some fruits as well. Give it a shot, but be warned the first week is pretty brutal until your body runs out of glycogen and switches over to ketones. Have stuff around to cook. It helps to dirty diet during this phase - I.E. While you're body is using up it's glycogen stores it will be -screaming- for carbs. This is where a lot of people fail, and it helps to have fatty, tasty things during this period (Bacon and Eggs w/cheese and sour cream etc..) It tickles the right centers of the brain and blunts the craving. You also go through 'keto flu' which is a day or two as your body is running its glycogen stores dry. Feel pretty wretched and craving sweet things.. then it vanishes.
hate to tell you but people like me who have familial hypercholesterolemia cannot do keto because the high amounts of fats (good or bad) does raise our cholesterol,it also didnt blunt my appetite and what I thought was keto flu was not. my health started to deteriorate(I did keto because I didnt know I had that health issue at the time).I was lethargic,couldnt form a coherent sentence. couldnt think,didnt lose any weight, had aches,pains,my arthritis was worse than it has ever been, headaches,etc. I was very close to going to the hospital because I thought I was dying,so no its not to scare people away,but to inform anyone who has the same health issue that it can be worse on your health than better. It didnt kill my cravings either. I did it for 2 months.
as soon as I stopped doing it my health started to improve again, I now feel better than I ever have eating a low fat,low cholesterol high fiber diet.so keto isnt for everyone and with my health issue if Im not proactive about it and keep it under control it can lead to type 2,TIAs, heart attack/stroke. the fat/cholesterol gets stored in my body in fat pads,xanthomas and xanthelasmas. it also has caused me to have artherosclerosis because it does clog our arteries. which could be one of the reasons for my latest heart issues but not sure. I can have fats but it has to be low amounts.less than 50g most days.11 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Cake_Flanks wrote: »Don't listen to the naysayers, they clearly don't know what they're talking about. I lost a good 60lbs doing Keto before having to back off it due to bodybuilding. Hitting Keto Macros for the amount I work out these days is just not doable (hundreds of grams of fat etc..), however it works well. It's still all calories in and calories out but it does have some added benefits. I found my mental clarity sharper and I slept better too. There are also a lot of good low or no carb foods out there now, including breads and pastas ( check out netrition.com's low carb products) which makes it much easier than it used to be. It's the only diet that has seriously worked for me outside of doing weightwatchers with my mom when I was fat teenager back in the 80s.
I put it like this - "You can't have your cake and eat it too, but you can have a big salad, and a big steak with creamy whipped cauliflower!" Don't listen to the latest Keto scares you see out there - My LDLs and HDLS were fine while doing Keto etc., and the recent study that claimed people on low carb diets die sooner turned out to be cherry picked BS - And there's one cardiologist that says "Nobody should be doing the keto diet!" - They all assume people are only eating bacon, eggs, cheese, and meat etc. You can have tons of veggies and some fruits as well. Give it a shot, but be warned the first week is pretty brutal until your body runs out of glycogen and switches over to ketones. Have stuff around to cook. It helps to dirty diet during this phase - I.E. While you're body is using up it's glycogen stores it will be -screaming- for carbs. This is where a lot of people fail, and it helps to have fatty, tasty things during this period (Bacon and Eggs w/cheese and sour cream etc..) It tickles the right centers of the brain and blunts the craving. You also go through 'keto flu' which is a day or two as your body is running its glycogen stores dry. Feel pretty wretched and craving sweet things.. then it vanishes.
hate to tell you but people like me who have familial hypercholesterolemia cannot do keto because the high amounts of fats (good or bad) does raise our cholesterol,it also didnt blunt my appetite and what I thought was keto flu was not. my health started to deteriorate(I did keto because I didnt know I had that health issue at the time).I was lethargic,couldnt form a coherent sentence. couldnt think,didnt lose any weight, had aches,pains,my arthritis was worse than it has ever been, headaches,etc. I was very close to going to the hospital because I thought I was dying,so no its not to scare people away,but to inform anyone who has the same health issue that it can be worse on your health than better. It didnt kill my cravings either. I did it for 2 months.
as soon as I stopped doing it my health started to improve again, I now feel better than I ever have eating a low fat,low cholesterol high fiber diet.so keto isnt for everyone and with my health issue if Im not proactive about it and keep it under control it can lead to type 2,TIAs, heart attack/stroke. the fat/cholesterol gets stored in my body in fat pads,xanthomas and xanthelasmas. it also has caused me to have artherosclerosis because it does clog our arteries. which could be one of the reasons for my latest heart issues but not sure. I can have fats but it has to be low amounts.less than 50g most days.
I think before starting any diet, if you have any underlying health issues, you should see a Doctor first so they can advise you on a plan. I do agree with you...Keto isn't for everybody which the same can be said for any diet. For me personally, I am 11 days in on Keto and have lost 10Ibs and haven't experienced any issues. But I will be going to my Doctor and getting a physical including my lipids tested to see if Keto has adversly affected anything. I am sorry Keto didn't work out for you but if you are feeling better now, then I am thrilled for you. We must remember that everyone's body is different and reacts differently to different things. You find what works for you and in the end it all comes down to dedication and unwavering commitment.8 -
That's absurd. Only apple cider vinegar cures jock itch. But back to the subject, you do you, OP. No one way of eating works for everyone. Regardless of what you may read on the forums here or elsewhere.100_PROOF_ wrote: »
I had an arm amputated and keto made me regrow my arm back!
Keto also cured my sisters friends cousin of athletes foot and jock itch.
#facts
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MOOD4TUNES wrote: »I think before starting any diet, if you have any underlying health issues, you should see a Doctor first so they can advise you on a plan.
I had my doctor give me a diet. He had xeroxed sheets from the Diabetes Association. He said he could refer me to a nutritionist and some diabetes classes. I asked if he thought it would help, and he said that as close as he could tell they did not ever seem to help his patients. I said I would pass.
With metformin and following the diet he gave me very closely, my glucose readings were never under 200. I started doing some research and tried lowering carbs to 50 a day. I saw my first readings under 200. I dropped carbs to 20 a day, and glucose readings started looking pretty good. I never looked back.
So at my next appointment, I have lost weight, and my A1C is much improved. The doctor said he was not accustomed to patients actually following his advice, and he was pleased to see the progress. I told him I owed my progress really to ignoring his advice and asked him if he wanted to know what I was doing. He laughed and said, "No, just keep doing it."
After the doctor left, the nurse said, "I'd like you to tell me what you are doing." I told her, and she said she wished I would talk to her husband.5 -
MOOD4TUNES wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Cake_Flanks wrote: »Don't listen to the naysayers, they clearly don't know what they're talking about. I lost a good 60lbs doing Keto before having to back off it due to bodybuilding. Hitting Keto Macros for the amount I work out these days is just not doable (hundreds of grams of fat etc..), however it works well. It's still all calories in and calories out but it does have some added benefits. I found my mental clarity sharper and I slept better too. There are also a lot of good low or no carb foods out there now, including breads and pastas ( check out netrition.com's low carb products) which makes it much easier than it used to be. It's the only diet that has seriously worked for me outside of doing weightwatchers with my mom when I was fat teenager back in the 80s.
I put it like this - "You can't have your cake and eat it too, but you can have a big salad, and a big steak with creamy whipped cauliflower!" Don't listen to the latest Keto scares you see out there - My LDLs and HDLS were fine while doing Keto etc., and the recent study that claimed people on low carb diets die sooner turned out to be cherry picked BS - And there's one cardiologist that says "Nobody should be doing the keto diet!" - They all assume people are only eating bacon, eggs, cheese, and meat etc. You can have tons of veggies and some fruits as well. Give it a shot, but be warned the first week is pretty brutal until your body runs out of glycogen and switches over to ketones. Have stuff around to cook. It helps to dirty diet during this phase - I.E. While you're body is using up it's glycogen stores it will be -screaming- for carbs. This is where a lot of people fail, and it helps to have fatty, tasty things during this period (Bacon and Eggs w/cheese and sour cream etc..) It tickles the right centers of the brain and blunts the craving. You also go through 'keto flu' which is a day or two as your body is running its glycogen stores dry. Feel pretty wretched and craving sweet things.. then it vanishes.
hate to tell you but people like me who have familial hypercholesterolemia cannot do keto because the high amounts of fats (good or bad) does raise our cholesterol,it also didnt blunt my appetite and what I thought was keto flu was not. my health started to deteriorate(I did keto because I didnt know I had that health issue at the time).I was lethargic,couldnt form a coherent sentence. couldnt think,didnt lose any weight, had aches,pains,my arthritis was worse than it has ever been, headaches,etc. I was very close to going to the hospital because I thought I was dying,so no its not to scare people away,but to inform anyone who has the same health issue that it can be worse on your health than better. It didnt kill my cravings either. I did it for 2 months.
as soon as I stopped doing it my health started to improve again, I now feel better than I ever have eating a low fat,low cholesterol high fiber diet.so keto isnt for everyone and with my health issue if Im not proactive about it and keep it under control it can lead to type 2,TIAs, heart attack/stroke. the fat/cholesterol gets stored in my body in fat pads,xanthomas and xanthelasmas. it also has caused me to have artherosclerosis because it does clog our arteries. which could be one of the reasons for my latest heart issues but not sure. I can have fats but it has to be low amounts.less than 50g most days.
I think before starting any diet, if you have any underlying health issues, you should see a Doctor first so they can advise you on a plan. I do agree with you...Keto isn't for everybody which the same can be said for any diet. For me personally, I am 11 days in on Keto and have lost 10Ibs and haven't experienced any issues. But I will be going to my Doctor and getting a physical including my lipids tested to see if Keto has adversly affected anything. I am sorry Keto didn't work out for you but if you are feeling better now, then I am thrilled for you. We must remember that everyone's body is different and reacts differently to different things. You find what works for you and in the end it all comes down to dedication and unwavering commitment.
I couldnt go to a dr beacause my health issue was not diagnosed yet. they thought it was just high cholesterol until they did further testing which was after I did keto. there was no way to know that it would do what it did to me or cause me any issues.but I want others to know that this can be dangerous for some so if they arent sure if their cholesterol is due to familial hypercholesterolemia they need to be tested further to see. for healthy people with no cholesterol issues it probably would be fine. but this way maybe if someone has some of the same issues I do then they can stop doing keto and see if thats the cause too.
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MOOD4TUNES wrote: »I think before starting any diet, if you have any underlying health issues, you should see a Doctor first so they can advise you on a plan.
I had my doctor give me a diet. He had xeroxed sheets from the Diabetes Association. He said he could refer me to a nutritionist and some diabetes classes. I asked if he thought it would help, and he said that as close as he could tell they did not ever seem to help his patients. I said I would pass.
With metformin and following the diet he gave me very closely, my glucose readings were never under 200. I started doing some research and tried lowering carbs to 50 a day. I saw my first readings under 200. I dropped carbs to 20 a day, and glucose readings started looking pretty good. I never looked back.
So at my next appointment, I have lost weight, and my A1C is much improved. The doctor said he was not accustomed to patients actually following his advice, and he was pleased to see the progress. I told him I owed my progress really to ignoring his advice and asked him if he wanted to know what I was doing. He laughed and said, "No, just keep doing it."
After the doctor left, the nurse said, "I'd like you to tell me what you are doing." I told her, and she said she wished I would talk to her husband.
keto does help those with insulin and diabetes though,its not the only way but it is one one to lower those things and improve them1 -
I am 10days in - I hate it sofar - I am hungry and week.
It is one of the most complex diets to get right.
I do like the idea but has caused some people to collapse faint end up in hostpital on an iv.
Easier is counting just calories for me.
Keto is
Adapting - count macros that’s 75% fat, 20% protein and 5% carbs then after adaption if your not loosing weight you have to count calories!!!
If your not feeling well - “Keto flu”
Your bound to be doing something wrong. Most will tell you electrolytes are missing and your dehydrating. Because it drains you in the process.
Also I find that. it enough this is put on not eating sugar making sure sugar and carbs are low in everything you eat.
My bonuses - I was able to get off high PB pills within 3 days of not eating sugar and bread, pastry - keto style, after 10 days I still am working on getting the macros right and adding my own recipe for electrolytes.
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