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Keto diet = good or bad
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It's been weird to see Keto go huge like this because it is essentially Atkins rebranded with a new name since people realized the limited effectiveness of Atkins. While it does seem like Keto can cause people to lose weight quick, these type of diets tend to be bad for keeping the weight off, as they are hard to follow long term and people usually gain the weight back. Also, even if you are losing weight on it, eating diets high in saturated fats are not good for you. There is a reason why Nutrition doctors are coming out against it.
Carbs, fat, and protein are a necessary part of the human diet for the average person and completely cutting of one of those isn't usually a good thing. Obviously for people with certain health conditions it maybe benefiical, but your normal dieter is better off eating a balanced diet of real, healthy food. It may take a bit longer to lose it, but it is more sustainable.
That being said, I wish everyone on the Keto diet the best of luck and hope you have success with it in reaching your goals.24 -
charlene77 wrote: »My husband just lost 70 pounds on Keto! He was supposed to start blood pressure medication in March. His blood pressure is down to 125/70.
He walked in the doctors office today and the doctor was thrilled as soon as he saw him. When he told him what he did, he said he is excited to see his blood work as he thinks his numbers are going to be good.
I’ve started Keto. I am down 31 pounds.
Don’t listen to everyone that says Keto is all about eating bacon.
I eat a ton of veggies everyday. I am actually aiming for higher protein than fat, unlike like many Keto people. I just stay away from sugar and don’t stress about it.
Maybe I should be considered low carb instead of Keto, since I am not into fatty meats.
This is wonderful, but it doesn't sound like you are really doing Keto. On Keto you can't even eat most veggies because they are too high in carbs. And eating mostly fat is a feature of the diet, not a flaw. The diet you are pursuing sounds like a more sensible one.19 -
"Good or bad" in what context?2
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I have been following a ketogenic diet for a year, on medical advice, as I was pre-diabetic and showing insulin resistance. I also was on anti-hypertensives to control my high blood pressure. Within 6 weeks of starting I was off the anti-hypertensives and within 3 months had normalised my blood sugar and was no longer showing insulin resistance. I have had other health benefits including less joint pain from my arthritis and I no longer suffer from gastric reflux. As an added bonus I have lost 78 pounds. I did my research before starting this way of eating and have been medically supervised the whole time. My blood results are all good and within normal range. I do not lack energy, work full time as a registered nurse and regularly walk 10km 3-4 times a week.
My food consists of moderate protein and good fats like avocado and olive oil. Despite what people may think I eat a lot of vegetables as not all are high in carbohydrate and fit into my <20g net carbs a day. I avoid processed foods and now do not miss the sugar, pasta, bread, rice, fruit etc. that made up a large part of my pre keto diet.
Having said this I do believe that a ketogenic diet is not for everyone and do not feel that it is the only way to lose weight. I also believe that calories in and calories out do matter but have found it easier to control my eating on a ketogenic diet as I eat the foods I like and don't have the deep gnawing hunger pangs I used to have when eating a low fat diet.
When all is said and done we have to make our own decision on how we eat and find what works for us as an individual.23 -
I never tried Keto so can't say whether it's good or bad. However, I am not a fan of diets that restrict certain food groups. From what I've read about Keto, it doesn't sound like a long term solution for me (I can only speak for myself). What is working for me is eating whatever I want under 1500 calories a day and exercising three to four times per week. I don't feel deprived because I eat a variety of foods daily, including dark chocolate, pizza, subs and of course foods that are considered more healthy like lean meats, veggies and fruit. Keep in mind that I can only eat so much chocolate and pizza otherwise, I would exceed my daily calorie limit. It's certainly not a free for all but I feel satisfied because I'm not being restrictive.
Again, this is what works for me. If you are able to sustain the Keto diet, then for you, it's good. Like others have stated, it boils down to a calorie deficit and people accomplish this doing what works for them.7 -
charlene77 wrote: »My husband just lost 70 pounds on Keto! He was supposed to start blood pressure medication in March. His blood pressure is down to 125/70.
He walked in the doctors office today and the doctor was thrilled as soon as he saw him. When he told him what he did, he said he is excited to see his blood work as he thinks his numbers are going to be good.
I’ve started Keto. I am down 31 pounds.
Don’t listen to everyone that says Keto is all about eating bacon.
I eat a ton of veggies everyday. I am actually aiming for higher protein than fat, unlike like many Keto people. I just stay away from sugar and don’t stress about it.
Maybe I should be considered low carb instead of Keto, since I am not into fatty meats.
You both lost weight not because of Keto. You simply lost weight due to calorie deficit. Its that simple.
So predictable, when someone has success with a keto WOE a flurry of following post will claim keto had nothing to do with it. For the record keto has nothing to do with my 22 pound loss and it was effortless with no calorie counting.23 -
I have been following a ketogenic diet for a year, on medical advice, as I was pre-diabetic and showing insulin resistance. I also was on anti-hypertensives to control my high blood pressure. Within 6 weeks of starting I was off the anti-hypertensives and within 3 months had normalised my blood sugar and was no longer showing insulin resistance. I have had other health benefits including less joint pain from my arthritis and I no longer suffer from gastric reflux. As an added bonus I have lost 78 pounds. I did my research before starting this way of eating and have been medically supervised the whole time. My blood results are all good and within normal range. I do not lack energy, work full time as a registered nurse and regularly walk 10km 3-4 times a week.
My food consists of moderate protein and good fats like avocado and olive oil. Despite what people may think I eat a lot of vegetables as not all are high in carbohydrate and fit into my <20g net carbs a day. I avoid processed foods and now do not miss the sugar, pasta, bread, rice, fruit etc. that made up a large part of my pre keto diet.
Having said this I do believe that a ketogenic diet is not for everyone and do not feel that it is the only way to lose weight. I also believe that calories in and calories out do matter but have found it easier to control my eating on a ketogenic diet as I eat the foods I like and don't have the deep gnawing hunger pangs I used to have when eating a low fat diet.
When all is said and done we have to make our own decision on how we eat and find what works for us as an individual.
@dmcnur I agree keto is not for everyone nor is it the only way to lose weight. After eating the keto way for 4 years and have experience better health even before I lost the first pound on day 45 it has always boggled my mind how Keto can lead to such health gains year after year in my body with no negative side effect that my MD can find because initially she was far far from Keto pro.
Recently I read good health is about good nutrition and obesity is caused by poor nutrition. It seems our bodies knows to eat more when it is short on nutrition of any type but it will eat more of what is in front of it especially in we humans.
Cravings are natural so that we seek out the nutrition the body needs when it detects a deficiency of any type. While at my age of 63 and very poor physical health the first two weeks I gave up all highly processed food (a washed apple is processed food technically) it was hellish for me but then the cravings just started to fade fast and four years later still have not returned.
It seems from my experience eating natural foods vs processed food gives me more of the nutrition that my body needs. Eating foods short of needed nutrition lead to cravings that lead to obesity and declining state of health due to my body not getting the nutrition it was seeking on my old Way Of Eating.
Finally learning the root case of obesity is the lack of needed nutrition instead of calories helped me understand why going off highly processed foods often short on nutrition to go Keto has greatly improved my health since I have not cut my calories but just changed their sources. I found macros trumps calories in my case for better health and weight management. Keto helping resolve my 40 years of high pain levels still boggles my mind to this day.
Thanks to you and the others sharing actual personal experiences with Keto.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »I have been following a ketogenic diet for a year, on medical advice, as I was pre-diabetic and showing insulin resistance. I also was on anti-hypertensives to control my high blood pressure. Within 6 weeks of starting I was off the anti-hypertensives and within 3 months had normalised my blood sugar and was no longer showing insulin resistance. I have had other health benefits including less joint pain from my arthritis and I no longer suffer from gastric reflux. As an added bonus I have lost 78 pounds. I did my research before starting this way of eating and have been medically supervised the whole time. My blood results are all good and within normal range. I do not lack energy, work full time as a registered nurse and regularly walk 10km 3-4 times a week.
My food consists of moderate protein and good fats like avocado and olive oil. Despite what people may think I eat a lot of vegetables as not all are high in carbohydrate and fit into my <20g net carbs a day. I avoid processed foods and now do not miss the sugar, pasta, bread, rice, fruit etc. that made up a large part of my pre keto diet.
Having said this I do believe that a ketogenic diet is not for everyone and do not feel that it is the only way to lose weight. I also believe that calories in and calories out do matter but have found it easier to control my eating on a ketogenic diet as I eat the foods I like and don't have the deep gnawing hunger pangs I used to have when eating a low fat diet.
When all is said and done we have to make our own decision on how we eat and find what works for us as an individual.
@dmcnur I agree keto is not for everyone nor is it the only way to lose weight. After eating the keto way for 4 years and have experience better health even before I lost the first pound on day 45 it has always boggled my mind how Keto can lead to such health gains year after year in my body with no negative side effect that my MD can find because initially she was far far from Keto pro.
Recently I read good health is about good nutrition and obesity is caused by poor nutrition. It seems our bodies knows to eat more when it is short on nutrition of any type but it will eat more of what is in front of it especially in we humans.
Cravings are natural so that we seek out the nutrition the body needs when it detects a deficiency of any type. While at my age of 63 and very poor physical health the first two weeks I gave up all highly processed food (a washed apple is processed food technically) it was hellish for me but then the cravings just started to fade fast and four years later still have not returned.
It seems from my experience eating natural foods vs processed food gives me more of the nutrition that my body needs. Eating foods short of needed nutrition lead to cravings that lead to obesity and declining state of health due to my body not getting the nutrition it was seeking on my old Way Of Eating.
Finally learning the root case of obesity is the lack of needed nutrition instead of calories helped me understand why going off highly processed foods often short on nutrition to go Keto has greatly improved my health since I have not cut my calories but just changed their sources. I found macros trumps calories in my case for better health and weight management. Keto helping resolve my 40 years of high pain levels still boggles my mind to this day.
Thanks to you and the others sharing actual personal experiences with Keto.
Looking specifically at the bolded part... is there any merit to that claim? I know my personal, subjective experience supports that, but I have no idea WHY my cravings come and go at times.
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charlene77 wrote: »My husband just lost 70 pounds on Keto! He was supposed to start blood pressure medication in March. His blood pressure is down to 125/70.
He walked in the doctors office today and the doctor was thrilled as soon as he saw him. When he told him what he did, he said he is excited to see his blood work as he thinks his numbers are going to be good.
I’ve started Keto. I am down 31 pounds.
Don’t listen to everyone that says Keto is all about eating bacon.
I eat a ton of veggies everyday. I am actually aiming for higher protein than fat, unlike like many Keto people. I just stay away from sugar and don’t stress about it.
Maybe I should be considered low carb instead of Keto, since I am not into fatty meats.
You both lost weight not because of Keto. You simply lost weight due to calorie deficit. Its that simple.
So predictable, when someone has success with a keto WOE a flurry of following post will claim keto had nothing to do with it. For the record keto has nothing to do with my 22 pound loss and it was effortless with no calorie counting.
It's important to differentiate how someone lost weight (how they did it) and why they lost weight (the underlying mechanism...). If that is not addressed you could have the potential of a person believing (insert diet) is the best way to lose weight. If that particular person say can't stick to (insert diet) they may feel hopeless because they have no other alternative... but in reality they do.
It's not a knock on Keto, just an important clarification...15 -
https://nutritiouslife.com/eat-empowered/food-cravings-really-mean/
@jjpptt2 the above is just a quick find that can help us all learn how to dig deeper on this subject. As noted this is relative a new discovery for most of us.
Just learning calories was not the root cause of my 40 years of obesity has been helpful already.26 -
charlene77 wrote: »My husband just lost 70 pounds on Keto! He was supposed to start blood pressure medication in March. His blood pressure is down to 125/70.
He walked in the doctors office today and the doctor was thrilled as soon as he saw him. When he told him what he did, he said he is excited to see his blood work as he thinks his numbers are going to be good.
I’ve started Keto. I am down 31 pounds.
Don’t listen to everyone that says Keto is all about eating bacon.
I eat a ton of veggies everyday. I am actually aiming for higher protein than fat, unlike like many Keto people. I just stay away from sugar and don’t stress about it.
Maybe I should be considered low carb instead of Keto, since I am not into fatty meats.
You both lost weight not because of Keto. You simply lost weight due to calorie deficit. Its that simple.
So predictable, when someone has success with a keto WOE a flurry of following post will claim keto had nothing to do with it. For the record keto has nothing to do with my 22 pound loss and it was effortless with no calorie counting.
The diet she described was absolutely not Keto. She said she eats a lot of vegetables, tries to avoid sugar, and targets more protein than fat. That is not the Keto diet.
The Keto diet is:
1. A fixed, extremely low carb amount, regardless of source.
2. Moderate protein intake
3. High fat intake
If someone is not doing that, then it is not the Keto diet.19 -
charlene77 wrote: »My husband just lost 70 pounds on Keto! He was supposed to start blood pressure medication in March. His blood pressure is down to 125/70.
He walked in the doctors office today and the doctor was thrilled as soon as he saw him. When he told him what he did, he said he is excited to see his blood work as he thinks his numbers are going to be good.
I’ve started Keto. I am down 31 pounds.
Don’t listen to everyone that says Keto is all about eating bacon.
I eat a ton of veggies everyday. I am actually aiming for higher protein than fat, unlike like many Keto people. I just stay away from sugar and don’t stress about it.
Maybe I should be considered low carb instead of Keto, since I am not into fatty meats.
You both lost weight not because of Keto. You simply lost weight due to calorie deficit. Its that simple.
So predictable, when someone has success with a keto WOE a flurry of following post will claim keto had nothing to do with it. For the record keto has nothing to do with my 22 pound loss and it was effortless with no calorie counting.
The diet she described was absolutely not Keto. She said she eats a lot of vegetables, tries to avoid sugar, and targets more protein than fat. That is not the Keto diet.
The Keto diet is:
1. A fixed, extremely low carb amount, regardless of source.
2. Moderate protein intake
3. High fat intake
If someone is not doing that, then it is not the Keto diet.
Nope. The secret to getting into ketosis is not the amount of fat that you eat, it is restricting the amount of carbs that you eat. In fact, if you are actively trying to lose weight, it is very beneficial to NOT put tons of fat into everything that you eat (forces the body to use fat stores instead of using dietary fat for energy). Lots of people also maintain ketosis keeping fat and protein at similar levels (like 45% fat, 45% protein and 10% carbs).
Also, there are a lot of people who can maintain ketosis on carb amounts as high as 50-60 grams (or higher, depending on activity levels). Since most who follow keto only count net carbs (carbs - fiber), if you stick to leafy greens like spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, etc, you can eat a lot of them with getting very many net carbs (i.e. carbs that would be used for energy). As an example, 100 grams of spinach has 4 grams of carbs of which 2 grams are fiber so only 2 net carbs. Broccoli and cauliflower have similar values.12 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »https://nutritiouslife.com/eat-empowered/food-cravings-really-mean/
@jjpptt2 the above is just a quick find that can help us all learn how to dig deeper on this subject. As noted this is relative a new discovery for most of us.
Just learning calories was not the root cause of my 40 years of obesity has been helpful already.
Calories were the root cause of your obesity though, specifically, too many of them. You can continue to blame cravings or specific foods all you like, but the simple fact was you ate too much. You'll gain weight if you eat too many calories on keto too, and that is a fact whether you choose to believe it or not.21 -
charlene77 wrote: »My husband just lost 70 pounds on Keto! He was supposed to start blood pressure medication in March. His blood pressure is down to 125/70.
He walked in the doctors office today and the doctor was thrilled as soon as he saw him. When he told him what he did, he said he is excited to see his blood work as he thinks his numbers are going to be good.
I’ve started Keto. I am down 31 pounds.
Don’t listen to everyone that says Keto is all about eating bacon.
I eat a ton of veggies everyday. I am actually aiming for higher protein than fat, unlike like many Keto people. I just stay away from sugar and don’t stress about it.
Maybe I should be considered low carb instead of Keto, since I am not into fatty meats.
You both lost weight not because of Keto. You simply lost weight due to calorie deficit. Its that simple.
So predictable, when someone has success with a keto WOE a flurry of following post will claim keto had nothing to do with it. For the record keto has nothing to do with my 22 pound loss and it was effortless with no calorie counting.
The diet she described was absolutely not Keto. She said she eats a lot of vegetables, tries to avoid sugar, and targets more protein than fat. That is not the Keto diet.
The Keto diet is:
1. A fixed, extremely low carb amount, regardless of source.
2. Moderate protein intake
3. High fat intake
If someone is not doing that, then it is not the Keto diet.
I tend to inter mix keto and LCHF. I try to stay between 20g ~ 50g or less. Either way you call it losing a significant amount of weight due to a LCHF or keto WOE is a victory in my opinion. Keto does not exclude Veggies but you will need to exclude root based and other higher carb varieties. I am probably more LCHF but often enter ketosis. I guess there is a hard keto definition somewhere but most people adapt it to their needs.6 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »https://nutritiouslife.com/eat-empowered/food-cravings-really-mean/
@jjpptt2 the above is just a quick find that can help us all learn how to dig deeper on this subject. As noted this is relative a new discovery for most of us.
Just learning calories was not the root cause of my 40 years of obesity has been helpful already.
Calories were the root cause of your obesity though, specifically, too many of them. You can continue to blame cravings or specific foods all you like, but the simple fact was you ate too much. You'll gain weight if you eat too many calories on keto too, and that is a fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
Well no point in studying patients with obesity or it's cause because you have it figured out. Just think of the money that can be saved because you have ruled out genetics and hormonal issues completely.41 -
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GaleHawkins wrote: »https://nutritiouslife.com/eat-empowered/food-cravings-really-mean/
@jjpptt2 the above is just a quick find that can help us all learn how to dig deeper on this subject. As noted this is relative a new discovery for most of us.
Just learning calories was not the root cause of my 40 years of obesity has been helpful already.
Calories were the root cause of your obesity though, specifically, too many of them. You can continue to blame cravings or specific foods all you like, but the simple fact was you ate too much. You'll gain weight if you eat too many calories on keto too, and that is a fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
Well no point in studying patients with obesity or it's cause because you have it figured out. Just think of the money that can be saved because you have ruled out genetics and hormonal issues completely.
Genetics and hormonal issues don't invalidate CICO. If a person loses weight, it is because they are at a calorie deficit, not because the magical keto fairy removed their fat stores in the middle of the night. Just think of the money that could be saved if people could understand this one basic principle instead of jumping from one fad diet to the next.25 -
@wmd1979 calories have never been the 'root' cause of obesity nor will become the root cause. No calories have ever jumped into my mouth. They are not like evil and we have to do battle with them daily.
The question is more like why do I overate calories. What about the things in our gut that is telling our brain what they want us to eat. Keto has been breaking cravings for the macros that are bad for our health longer than any of us have been alive.
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5496172/
"....By revisiting the causes for obesity, especially those stated by the leading health organisms, this article makes the case to view obesity as a consequence of disturbing the auto-regulation of hormones related to fat production and accumulation by diet composition, in particular that produced by industrialized processed food...."
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GaleHawkins wrote: »https://nutritiouslife.com/eat-empowered/food-cravings-really-mean/
@jjpptt2 the above is just a quick find that can help us all learn how to dig deeper on this subject. As noted this is relative a new discovery for most of us.
Just learning calories was not the root cause of my 40 years of obesity has been helpful already.
Calories were the root cause of your obesity though, specifically, too many of them. You can continue to blame cravings or specific foods all you like, but the simple fact was you ate too much. You'll gain weight if you eat too many calories on keto too, and that is a fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
Well no point in studying patients with obesity or it's cause because you have it figured out. Just think of the money that can be saved because you have ruled out genetics and hormonal issues completely.
This is absolutely true.
The problem is that too many people are making money off of human nature. Too many people don't want to believe the genetic and hormonal issues are pretty much irrelevant. A majority would rather be miserable and be "right", rather than be wrong.10 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »@wmd1979 calories have never been the 'root' cause of obesity nor will become the root cause. No calories have ever jumped into my mouth. They are not like evil and we have to do battle with them daily.
Overeating calories is the root cause of obesity. Too many calories in, not enough calories out. Whether or not CI or CO is impacted by medical conditions, there is always a point where there is energy balance, that is, CO=CI. Nobody has a condition where they can't lose (or gain) weight because they don't have a point where CO=CI.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »@wmd1979 calories have never been the 'root' cause of obesity nor will become the root cause. No calories have ever jumped into my mouth. They are not like evil and we have to do battle with them daily.
The question is more like why do I overate calories. What about the things in our gut that is telling our brain what they want us to eat. Keto has been breaking cravings for the macros that are bad for our health longer than any of us have been alive.
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5496172/
"....By revisiting the causes for obesity, especially those stated by the leading health organisms, this article makes the case to view obesity as a consequence of disturbing the auto-regulation of hormones related to fat production and accumulation by diet composition, in particular that produced by industrialized processed food...."
What macros are bad for health?9 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@wmd1979 calories have never been the 'root' cause of obesity nor will become the root cause. No calories have ever jumped into my mouth. They are not like evil and we have to do battle with them daily.
The question is more like why do I overate calories. What about the things in our gut that is telling our brain what they want us to eat. Keto has been breaking cravings for the macros that are bad for our health longer than any of us have been alive.
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5496172/
"....By revisiting the causes for obesity, especially those stated by the leading health organisms, this article makes the case to view obesity as a consequence of disturbing the auto-regulation of hormones related to fat production and accumulation by diet composition, in particular that produced by industrialized processed food...."
What macros are bad for health?
The ones that make you health worse
This is why ones own n=1 results are mission critical.21 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@wmd1979 calories have never been the 'root' cause of obesity nor will become the root cause. No calories have ever jumped into my mouth. They are not like evil and we have to do battle with them daily.
The question is more like why do I overate calories. What about the things in our gut that is telling our brain what they want us to eat. Keto has been breaking cravings for the macros that are bad for our health longer than any of us have been alive.
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5496172/
"....By revisiting the causes for obesity, especially those stated by the leading health organisms, this article makes the case to view obesity as a consequence of disturbing the auto-regulation of hormones related to fat production and accumulation by diet composition, in particular that produced by industrialized processed food...."
What macros are bad for health?
The ones that make you health worse
This is why ones own n=1 results are mission critical.
and those are...?
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GaleHawkins wrote: »@wmd1979 calories have never been the 'root' cause of obesity nor will become the root cause. No calories have ever jumped into my mouth. They are not like evil and we have to do battle with them daily.
The question is more like why do I overate calories. What about the things in our gut that is telling our brain what they want us to eat. Keto has been breaking cravings for the macros that are bad for our health longer than any of us have been alive.
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5496172/
"....By revisiting the causes for obesity, especially those stated by the leading health organisms, this article makes the case to view obesity as a consequence of disturbing the auto-regulation of hormones related to fat production and accumulation by diet composition, in particular that produced by industrialized processed food...."
The idea that macronutrients, devoid of any context related to lifestyle and portion size, are bad for your health is just ridiculous. You're terrified of bananas and spinach and you think your "gut" is telling your brain to eat them. Step back, man.11 -
From what I have been reading lately, Keto has its place to help with certain medical conditions. I am not a fan of using it strictly for weight loss (I still feel it's a fad diet in that context). If it's to help with those conditions as well, and your doctor encourages it, I say go for it.3
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@GaleHawkins have you considered that your poor health was more the result of being obese in and of itself, rather then any particular macro?15
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GaleHawkins wrote: »https://nutritiouslife.com/eat-empowered/food-cravings-really-mean/
@jjpptt2 the above is just a quick find that can help us all learn how to dig deeper on this subject. As noted this is relative a new discovery for most of us.
Just learning calories was not the root cause of my 40 years of obesity has been helpful already.
Calories were the root cause of your obesity though, specifically, too many of them. You can continue to blame cravings or specific foods all you like, but the simple fact was you ate too much. You'll gain weight if you eat too many calories on keto too, and that is a fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
Well no point in studying patients with obesity or it's cause because you have it figured out. Just think of the money that can be saved because you have ruled out genetics and hormonal issues completely.
if genetics and hormone issues cause obesity then I would have never became obese. both parents were of healthy weights,both grandparents on my moms side were as well, my grandma on my dads side was of a healthy weight. my grandpa(her husband) was 6'4 and over 300lbs. not sure if that would make him overweight but from pics Ive seen he didnt look overweight. me and my 4 sisters were all thin and of normal weight most of our lives until we hit a certain age and became less active but ate more than we thought we were eating, we werent fed junk as children except for a rare treat or it was our birthday and had a party. we were active kids too I became obese due to being less active and eating way too much.
my mom and her brother were thin yet my aunt was on the heavy side always was. most of my family is on the thinner side or normal weight only a few of them are obese,but most of them are obese due to their diets.4 -
@GaleHawkins have you considered that your poor health was more the result of being obese in and of itself, rather then any particular macro?
Beating a dead horse...6 -
@GaleHawkins have you considered that your poor health was more the result of being obese in and of itself, rather then any particular macro?
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