January 2019 Monthly Running Challenge

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  • proudmotherof6
    proudmotherof6 Posts: 40 Member
    rheddmobile wrote: »
    proudmotherof6 wrote: »
    Hi everyone. This thread looks so cool lol. Here's a little about myself... I'm Lani, 32 years young, mother of 6 and wife of one lol. I just had a baby a week ago and I've became a couch potato. I want to run at least three days out the week and walk the other days, and maybe start off with 10 minutes each time for the first week and slowly increase from there. What do you all think? I use to be a runner but it's been a while since I've been active, plus with me just having a baby I need to start off slow. But I'm willing to take any advice. Please add me as a friend I'm not sure how to add people yet. I look forward to hearing from you all soon. 😊

    Welcome to the thread Lani! And congratulations on your newest family member! Do you know when you'll be cleared by your doctor to run?

    For new runners a program like C25K (couch to 5k) can be a great start. They recommend working up to walking briskly for 30 minutes before starting the running program, so that's something you can do while recovering. A lot of people who are new log walking as well as running miles, we're easygoing here!

    Thx. She gave me the standard 6weeks but I'm kind of hard-headed lol. Is the C25k an app?
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    lporter229 wrote: »
    shanaber wrote: »
    I too take 'easy run' at its name... typically by the time I hit it in my run plan I am in need of it anyway.

    I don't live where it gets really cold and even though I grew up in Idaho and we got snow it was never in the -degrees. So a question for those of you who do and who have dogs. How do you get them to go out or take them for walks and runs? Doesn't it hurt their noses, paws and ears? I can't imagine getting Hobbes the Vizsla out to run in those -degrees... he freezes with a jacket when it is in the high 40's.

    Stella pretty much requires a walk every day. I put a coat on her when the temp is below 20. She doesn't care for it, but she will agree to it for the sake of the walk. I use Musher's wax on her paws. It's kind of a pain to get it on, but if I don't take the time to do it, she gets ice in her paws and hops on three legs. Of course, this only seems to bother her for a few seconds, but it bothers me. I also worry about the salt getting in her paws. I have never tried boots, but I'm pretty sure that would be a fiasco. Stella loves the snow so much and doesn't seem to mind the cold, so I bundle up and off we go. She does not really care for walking in the rain though, so we keep the walks short on rainy days.

    @lporter229 I also have some mushers wax but I usually forget to put it on him. I need to keep it with my running gear. I don't ever notice a difference when we use it, other than he hates the smell and sometimes he'll drop down and push his nose along the carpet as if it get rid of the stink. I worry he'll get carpet burn. We run on the roads almost exclusively in the winter and I'd think salt would affect him more than it does, but I've not seen any ill effects. He'll start limping at the slightest of irritations to his feet so I'd notice it.

  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    edited January 2019
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    Orphia wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    I've never heard the concept of absorption runs before. I'm not sure I quite understand the goal. Even Google fails me on this one.

    @7lenny7

    You've heard of them. You understand the goal completely.

    They're "easy runs" under a name Olympic marathoner Steve Monaghetti came up with a few weeks ago. :smile:

    During our coaching course, the facilitator (head of all our running clubs, coach of the Australian women's world record holder for the 100km) who'd talked to Steve that week said they're using the term now.

    Nobody EVER does "easy runs" easy.

    As I said, "we're so used to thinking faster is always good, and our fast is never fast enough".

    "Easy run" is a terrible name for them. Nobody wants to do them, or when they do, they never do them properly.

    An "absorption run" is the 80% of running you do that "absorb the work" of the harder runs you do. They have meaning and purpose.

    You heard it here first. :smiley:

    Maybe I'm an outlier but I think "easy run" is a great name for an easy run. I do look forward to them and I do take them easy, most of the time, and my HR and pace data bears that out. But the name doesn't really matter as long as the runner understand what the purpose is.

    I will join you in outlier land then. :)

    Me too.
    Though someone (speed demon) doesn't know the meaning of easy run

    She'll probably be staying home with this cold.
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    edited January 2019
    @proudmotherof6 welcome and congratulations!!

    I second everything @rheddmobile said.

    @rheddmobile that rug of yours looks very similar to ours, but it's slightly different.
  • polskagirl01
    polskagirl01 Posts: 2,024 Member
    proudmotherof6 wrote: »
    rheddmobile wrote: »
    proudmotherof6 wrote: »
    Hi everyone. This thread looks so cool lol. Here's a little about myself... I'm Lani, 32 years young, mother of 6 and wife of one lol. I just had a baby a week ago and I've became a couch potato. I want to run at least three days out the week and walk the other days, and maybe start off with 10 minutes each time for the first week and slowly increase from there. What do you all think? I use to be a runner but it's been a while since I've been active, plus with me just having a baby I need to start off slow. But I'm willing to take any advice. Please add me as a friend I'm not sure how to add people yet. I look forward to hearing from you all soon. 😊

    Welcome to the thread Lani! And congratulations on your newest family member! Do you know when you'll be cleared by your doctor to run?

    For new runners a program like C25K (couch to 5k) can be a great start. They recommend working up to walking briskly for 30 minutes before starting the running program, so that's something you can do while recovering. A lot of people who are new log walking as well as running miles, we're easygoing here!

    Thx. She gave me the standard 6weeks but I'm kind of hard-headed lol. Is the C25k an app?

    There are apps, or you can just print off a plan (there are several different versions of it). Google C25K and pick one that looks good to you. Just listen to your doctor and start slow - you'll benefit in the long term doing it that way.
  • Tramboman
    Tramboman Posts: 2,482 Member
    @amymoreorless Have a great marathon this weekend.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    edited January 2019
    LadySaton wrote: »
    @PastorVincent Definitely no interest in competing for money! I don’t have the drive or time to devote even if I wanted to do it anyhow, so I’ll just be dazzled by the rest of you. 🤪 I read that a faster cadence was related to reducing chances of injury (though I’m not sure why that is) and I like anything that means I don’t hurt myself! My husband runs 3 miles a couple times a week and hurts himself at least every couple months so I want to be proactive. However, if it’s not worth worrying about for a casual runner I’ll just keep my current playlist and stop cycling in faster songs. 👍🏻

    180 cadence is a thing that has been wildly overblown. It only applies in certain situations with certain people. Studies have found that most inexperienced runners are great at figuring out what cadence is most efficient depending on how tired they are. For starters, 180 doesn't apply to people running slowly - there's no need for the "sewing machine needle" gait you can see on well intentioned women at my park, who barely pick their feet up but by gosh they are picking them up 180 times a minute because someone told them to! If you're running slower than 10 minute miles, 160 may be more appropriate.

    The reasoning behind faster cadence reducing injury is that overstriding can be a cause of injury, and faster cadence makes you less likely to overstride. In your example it sounds like your husband could benefit from shortening his stride and increasing his cadence. Since you are running easy and probably not overstriding, there's no reason for you to try to change cadence right now.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    @amymoreorless Good luck with your marathon!
  • LadySaton
    LadySaton Posts: 500 Member
    @rheddmobile & @PastorVincent Thanks for the info! I’ve been using this same playlist for awhile because I didn’t feel like I was ready to bump it up anymore. Now I’ll just keep it as is and not worry so much about trying to stay on the beat, especially on hills!
  • proudmotherof6
    proudmotherof6 Posts: 40 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    @proudmotherof6 welcome and congratulations!!

    I second everything @rheddmobile said.

    @rheddmobile that rug of yours looks very similar to ours, but it's slightly different.

    Thank you 😊
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    MobyCarp wrote: »
    Sloth day today. Got out and shoveled the driveway; snow was lighter today so that was easier, but it was colder with a stronger wind so my hands got chilled more quickly. All part of winter in the Land of Lake Effect Snow.

    On Easy Runs vs. Absorption Runs: Experienced distance runners know what an easy run is. It takes some time to learn, and most talented runners have some trouble learning to run slow enough. Once they learn, it isn't a problem. I see adoption of the term "absorption run" as an attempt to get through to newbie distance runners that there's a serious reason to slow down. It remains to be seen how successful that attempt will be.

    One thing that obfuscates the concept of the easy run for general discussion is that there are two types of runners: Those who need to be pushed to work as hard as they should, and those that need to be restrained so they don't work too hard. The term "absorption run" is obviously targeted to the latter group. The first half marathon training program I was in had a lot of rah-rah rhetoric aimed at the former group, and it took me half the training cycle to realize it didn't mean me. EDIT TO ADD: Every app out there is targeted to the former group, because the easiest thing to program and market is do more, go faster, run longer.

    @MobyCarp So true, and well said as usual. Definitely agree about apps making people think faster is always better.

    I see runners who've even done marathons doing their everyday runs at 10K pace all the time. Two years ago I was doing that.

    Beginners and those who've run just a few years see experienced/fast runners calling their runs at this pace "easy" and feel like they need to do that too.

    I also doubt people will want to change what they call them. But I think I'll use the term from time to time just to remind myself, and perhaps spark discussion in places.

    Thanks for thinking it through.

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