January 2019 Monthly Running Challenge

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  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    ContraryMaryMary wrote: »
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    ContraryMaryMary wrote: »
    My mini-me illustrating pretty much what I’ve been doing all week (my waistline is starting to resemble hers too as a consequence!).
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    Last night I attempted some running - I’m here alone with the children so, once they were asleep, I did some speed repeats - 12x250 then a 900m cool down. Pushed it a bit hard and my calf is telling me about it today. Longer and slower would have been better but I couldn’t leave the kids by themselves.

    Beautiful! Where abouts are you holidaying?

    On Waiheke. My sister has a bach at Onetangi. Home today ☹️

    Nice! never actutally been to Waiheke, but then living where we are, our holidays are to the city lol
  • Azercord
    Azercord Posts: 573 Member
    @MegaMooseEsq @7lenny7 I was dong about the same volume when I broke my foot and I had long runs that passed the 20 mile mark every other week. While my volume was a bit more then if you break it down for the most part it was just more condensed (I ran at max 4 days a week).

    While I don't have a race in mind at the moment I was eyeballing a 50k race out this direction before the break and now my brain is wondering if it can be done off this pattern.

    I will also be working on extending out my Saturday run as I get used to this load but I doubt it will go much past the 10 mile mark.
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    edited January 2019
    Azercord wrote: »
    @MegaMooseEsq @7lenny7 I was dong about the same volume when I broke my foot and I had long runs that passed the 20 mile mark every other week. While my volume was a bit more then if you break it down for the most part it was just more condensed (I ran at max 4 days a week).

    While I don't have a race in mind at the moment I was eyeballing a 50k race out this direction before the break and now my brain is wondering if it can be done off this pattern.

    I will also be working on extending out my Saturday run as I get used to this load but I doubt it will go much past the 10 mile mark.

    @Azercord There's going to be tissue breakdown on a 50K and going from a long run of 6 miles to a race of 31 miles, it's going to be a greater amount than if you were going from 20m to 32m.

    I'm clearly no expert, but my understanding is that you can run a 50K on low volume training, but you need to do three things. Get in your long runs, have one quality workout every week, such as hill repeats, and spend some time with strength training. After that, just get in as many miles as you can.

    Of course, you can always just go for it if you trust yourself to pull out if you reach the point of impending injury.
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    @Azercord this was the article I was reading yesterday. There's some great advice here and I think it might be of use to you.
    https://trailrunnermag.com/training/trail-tips/4-tips-for-busy-runners-training-for-an-ultramarathon.html
  • Azercord
    Azercord Posts: 573 Member
    @7lenny7 Thanks for the article. From the sounds of things I will just need to extend out my long run and hit the trails for hills. Beyond that I'm pretty covered (I'm a lifter with a running problem so I strength train heavy 3 times a week) although the 50k in February is probably out.
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    @Azercord I agree, I think you should be fine with that approach. Training heavy 3x per week will be a huge help. Last training cycle I added more focused hill training. This training cycle I want to incorporate more speed work to increase my running economy. Next training cycle I want to incorporate strong lifts or something like that. The gym I'd go to is just a mile and half away so running there and back would make for good bookends for lifting.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    edited January 2019
    Kimtrooper wrote: »
    Think I’m 39/50. Missed the park run so added that onto this weeks mileage. It’s still a heatwave so some runs turned into walks but meh it’s still mileage.

    Last night it was 31C/87.8F overnight and set a new record today in Adelaide of 46.6C/115.8F
    Hottest city in Australia today 👍🥵

    Not ideal running temperature for this little turtle 🐢🏃🏼‍♀️

    Rather looking forward to heading to Finland in 2.5 weeks for a cool change 😎

    :smiley:@Kimtrooper Finland, brilliant!!! It was 42C here and I was consoling myself that at least we didn't have it as bad as Adelaide. Such a hot night! The coolest it got here was 25C this morning when I went for a gentle run to attempt to acclimatise before heading to Queensland soon.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    Orphia wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    Orphia wrote: »
    @7lenny7 How's the repaired toe tendon while running and the next day?

    @Orphia thanks for asking!

    My tendon is doing pretty good, I think. During my first couple of runs there was enough pain that I thought about scheduling a visit with the surgeon, just to make sure it wasn't unusual. The pain seem to be in the spot of the initial rupture, not at the repair, which is about 2 cm further down the foot. The amount of pain, and the frequency with which I feel it, has been decreasing, however, so I'm not as concerned. Last night I went for a 7 mile run and felt it a few times in the first mile or two, then maybe a couple of times during the rest of my run. My theory is that it's random adhesions which are coming loose as I run. I may try doing some targeted massage of that area.

    The bigger issue has been a tightness of the tendon on the inside of my foot, going from the lower leg to the inside of my heel bone. A longer warm up seems to help, and foam rolling my hamstring and calf seem to help, I just need to remember to actually do it.

    Call me a worrier (I am) but I'm concerned you can't feel it because you're running a lot and the happy hormones are masking the pain. #beentheredonethat

    That's why I was also wondering how it is on your rest days, and how many of those you have.

    @Orphia , I waited to respond to see how I felt today. I didn't remember any more pains or aches on previous rest days, but wanted to mindfully take stock today. Today there's no more pain or tightness than I had yesterday while running. I'd say the heel tightness is minimal when I'm not running, but I can feel it here and there. The tendon repair area...about the same level and frequency as when running. Comes and goes and it's only a momentary discomfort. In the moment it's there, I'd rate it a 2 or 3 on a 10 point scale.

    That's not bad as far as pain goes, and considering the Training Age of your new tendon is back to 0.

    What's your plan? To keep running the same volume and see if it goes away?
  • Mari33a
    Mari33a Posts: 1,254 Member
    edited January 2019
    greenolivetree wrote: »
    mbaker566 wrote: »
    greenolivetree wrote: »
    Well I'm 400 posts behind. Oh well :) I ran 30 mins three times last week then last night I started the Bridge to 10k program. So that was four 10 min runs with 1 min walk breaks in between. I struggled through the whole thing. Usually at least once a week my whole run is just terrible and I feel like crap. Ha. My HR was higher than it's been despite adding in the walk breaks and the walk breaks honestly just felt pointless. I'm contemplating just adding 5 mins each week to my run instead of doing the walk break thing in the 10k program???

    Also having a lot of upper back and neck pain and my neck starts to burn like hell after about 20-25 min running. But I refuse to miss a run because I wouldn't be so in pain if I was in better shape? LOL

    double check you are running with relaxed shoulders and neck. it is not uncommon for runners to get pain there. think loosy goosy. relax the jaw, the neck, the shoulders.

    @7lenny7 but i have a long weekend this weekend :disappointed:

    Yes, definitely trying to do that. My back pain is 24/7 though. It's bad posture and my desk job. This is the worst flare up I've had in a long time. I have found over the past 10 years that certain exercises basically eliminate the pain. I just need to do it. LOL I am trying. It feels like I need somebody to wring my spine like a wet towel and crack every vertebrae. It also feels like I need to hang upside down to relieve the pressure. I almost got an inversion table about a year ago but then I felt better because of the exercises so I didn't buy it.

    I feel ur pain @greenolivetree. I got a really bad flare up this month in my neck and shoulder. Docs told me on Tuesday it won’t get better. They’re sending me for physio & if that doesn’t work an op on my neck. Fingers crossed the patio works. Never ate so may pills
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    girlinahat wrote: »
    129 post behind and I see the sock game. I wanna play @Elise4270 even though you’re probably back home and not bored any more.

    In fact - I wanted to play so much I got out of my pjs just to put today’s socks back on, then contorted my body so you could see the zebras.
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    :D

    I’m in class waiting for it to start. I’m bored. Sitting here her with a bunch of 20yo (no offense to the 20yo’s). I love this sock game. I think I’m going to hunt some awesome socks. I like elephants. I want elephant sheets and bedding... now I want elephant socks.
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    Orphia wrote: »
    That's not bad as far as pain goes, and considering the Training Age of your new tendon is back to 0.

    What's your plan? To keep running the same volume and see if it goes away?

    @Orphia no, I'm actually going to increase the volume. I have a 20M race the end of February and a 50M race the end of April.

    Doc said there'd be pain and to listen to my body. That's what I'm doing. This is less pain than I expected and but if it increases, I'll cut back. If the pain increases or becomes more frequent during a run I'll stop. If I get concerned at all, I'll see the doc again. He's close to my office and my co-pay is only $20.

    This tendon I busted isn't a critical tendon for running. All it does is extend the toe, and with the other extensor tendons, raise the foot. This is what really makes this such a freak injury. It's not a tendon which has to absorb my body weight or impact forces. My doc, a foot surgeon of 30 years, has never seen this happen from running.

    I know I'm not out of the woods with this yet, but I'm paying close attention to it and will readily alter my plans if the conditions warrant. And maybe I push to hard and it pops again. So be it.

    I've never heard the concept of absorption runs before. I'm not sure I quite understand the goal. Even Google fails me on this one.
  • HonuNui
    HonuNui Posts: 1,464 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    I’m in class waiting for it to start. I’m bored. Sitting here her with a bunch of 20yo (no offense to the 20yo’s). I love this sock game. I think I’m going to hunt some awesome socks. I like elephants. I want elephant sheets and bedding... now I want elephant socks.

    How 'bout elephants wearing polka dot socks? https://www.amazon.com/Mainstays-Favorites-Pineapples-Geometric-Pillowcase/dp/B0754211QW/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1548373219&sr=8-8&keywords=elephant+sheet

  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    I am way far behind in this thread... sorry anyone I missed checking in! Glad @Orphia is checking on on @7lenny7 and @Scott6255 has made it through DOMS and @Elise4270 has gotten her requested sock pictures... but really missed anyone else, sorry! Work is all upside down and sideways right now, but it will get back to normal in a few weeks!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited January 2019
    HonuNui wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    I’m in class waiting for it to start. I’m bored. Sitting here her with a bunch of 20yo (no offense to the 20yo’s). I love this sock game. I think I’m going to hunt some awesome socks. I like elephants. I want elephant sheets and bedding... now I want elephant socks.

    How 'bout elephants wearing polka dot socks? https://www.amazon.com/Mainstays-Favorites-Pineapples-Geometric-Pillowcase/dp/B0754211QW/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1548373219&sr=8-8&keywords=elephant+sheet
    Haha! You know I’m sending that link straight to Eric! They’ll go with my shower curtain!
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    I got this at the DFW airport
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    He turns inside out for a neck/travel pillow. Don’t look at the mess on the carpet. The cats have cardboard scratching things. Always a mess. An never mind my collection on the cat tree too, or the couch-my recovery nest evolved into a lazy couch spot.

    ETA omg! I found camel ones!
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    edited January 2019
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    Orphia wrote: »
    That's not bad as far as pain goes, and considering the Training Age of your new tendon is back to 0.

    What's your plan? To keep running the same volume and see if it goes away?

    @Orphia no, I'm actually going to increase the volume. I have a 20M race the end of February and a 50M race the end of April.

    Doc said there'd be pain and to listen to my body. That's what I'm doing. This is less pain than I expected and but if it increases, I'll cut back. If the pain increases or becomes more frequent during a run I'll stop. If I get concerned at all, I'll see the doc again. He's close to my office and my co-pay is only $20.

    This tendon I busted isn't a critical tendon for running. All it does is extend the toe, and with the other extensor tendons, raise the foot. This is what really makes this such a freak injury. It's not a tendon which has to absorb my body weight or impact forces. My doc, a foot surgeon of 30 years, has never seen this happen from running.

    I know I'm not out of the woods with this yet, but I'm paying close attention to it and will readily alter my plans if the conditions warrant. And maybe I push to hard and it pops again. So be it.

    Good to know you're planning to cut back if it increases.

  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    @Elise4270 Sock game! Polka dots with Sherpa lining, these are my recovery socks! Ignore my messy rug. BTW I think @7lenny7 posted a picture of his mud room and it looks like he has the same rug in his mud room that I have in mine.
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