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homeschooljunglemom wrote: »Wow, so much misinformation about this way of eating.. Everyone’s giving their opinion but they don’t really know what they’re talking about.
Keto is a very personalized way of eating, so it does look different for different people. However, there are some principles that must be understood to be successful. Unfortunately, most who attempt it, do so without the research. It is NOT a diet of deprivation!!
My family is celebrating our 1-year “ketoversary” today and it has been the best year. I’ve lost 83 lbs. All together (7 of us) my family has lost over 300 lbs. so far. We all eat differently - we go by what our body needs. It is the easiest thing I’ve ever done. The only hard part was overcoming my sugar addiction (took 2 weeks cold turkey) and “unlearning” all the garbage nutritional info I’ve been taught. No calorie tracking. No deprivation. Incredible health.
In fact, what made it so easy for us to follow was how good we felt, so quickly! All of our numbers improved and my husband was off his blood pressure and cholesterol meds within 2 months. My 16-year-old son’s allergies are gone (unless he consumes too many carbs). My horrible acid reflux and stomach problems were gone within two weeks. I was a very old 56 year old and now I’m a very young 57 year old. Eating Keto gave me the energy to get up and go. I got a very active job after two months and now I am more energetic than the twenty-somethings I work with. In fact, I watch them move around sluggishly, complaining about how they feel, saying they could never give up their carbs.
So many of you say that you prefer calories in/calories out... but people can’t maintain that... they just slow down their metabolism. I’ve been effortlessly maintaining my weight loss since October and I feel like I eat just what I want.
Before you knock it, you should do some research.
Out of curiosity, what are the high carb foods that cause you and your family so many problems?4 -
homeschooljunglemom wrote: »Wow, so much misinformation about this way of eating.. Everyone’s giving their opinion but they don’t really know what they’re talking about.
Keto is a very personalized way of eating, so it does look different for different people. However, there are some principles that must be understood to be successful. Unfortunately, most who attempt it, do so without the research. It is NOT a diet of deprivation!!
My family is celebrating our 1-year “ketoversary” today and it has been the best year. I’ve lost 83 lbs. All together (7 of us) my family has lost over 300 lbs. so far. We all eat differently - we go by what our body needs. It is the easiest thing I’ve ever done. The only hard part was overcoming my sugar addiction (took 2 weeks cold turkey) and “unlearning” all the garbage nutritional info I’ve been taught. No calorie tracking. No deprivation. Incredible health.
In fact, what made it so easy for us to follow was how good we felt, so quickly! All of our numbers improved and my husband was off his blood pressure and cholesterol meds within 2 months. My 16-year-old son’s allergies are gone (unless he consumes too many carbs). My horrible acid reflux and stomach problems were gone within two weeks. I was a very old 56 year old and now I’m a very young 57 year old. Eating Keto gave me the energy to get up and go. I got a very active job after two months and now I am more energetic than the twenty-somethings I work with. In fact, I watch them move around sluggishly, complaining about how they feel, saying they could never give up their carbs.
So many of you say that you prefer calories in/calories out... but people can’t maintain that... they just slow down their metabolism. I’ve been effortlessly maintaining my weight loss since October and I feel like I eat just what I want.
Before you knock it, you should do some research.
@homeschooljunglemom it is awesome what you as a family have seen the pros and cons of KETO and figured out how to do it in different ways. There are physical and mental reasons some can not do keto but after a year surely Keto is working well for your household. There were some MFP sub keto forums mentioned earlier in this thread you will want to check out perhaps. Most post from informed positions and are encouraging but clearly you are above the negative keto chatter by this point.
At 63 I had already bought a power chair and needed help getting in and out of cars. After 40 years my arthritis (Ankylosing Spondylitis) had about done me in. The kids were 16 and watching me slip away from them wondering if the same thing was in their future so I knew I had to find hope for myself so they would have hope for their future should AS do the same to them and I could see some early signs in one of them.
The doctors wanting me to start on Enbrel injections for pain management the next month on a hunch the first of Oct 2014 I went off all foods containing added sugars and or any form of any grain cold turkey. The prior two months I had tried to taper off. Thankfully by my Nov 2014 appointment I was able to say NO to starting Enbrel injections and the possible side effects.
Now in Feb 2019 my health is better than in decades and I did not do Keto to lose weight but to lessen my chance of premature death in front of my kids.
People that have never done Keto successful for a year do not seem to grasp that Keto is more than just about the kinds of food we poke in our faces or how much food we eat.
For example I never knew that true Type 2 Diabetes is not a disease that we catch but mostly is caused by overeating carbohydrates until I started to study about Keto as to why and how it works so well for many of us.
Wednesday I had a one hour three way discussion about Keto after my dental appointment. One lady that I have known for several years spoke up how my bent back is so much straighter now and how she knows she needs to change her way of eating but when has been saying that for 5 years. Another lady spoke up her husband has been Keto for 10 years and was able to get off of insulin early on and got off of Metformin 5 years ago due to health risks concerns per his doctor's advice. Her daughter has been keto for a long while as well and that a Type 1 diabetic family member finds eating keto helps lessen insulin needs.
The long term Keto trend to resolve major health issues will continue but it may not always be so poplar as a weight loss tool. Keep up your great success because you are inspiring others to look for a way to eat themselves out of their health issues when possible.
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Wow... I’m so happy for you. You have blessed your whole family! You actually sound a lot like me. I too was in constant pain and bad health. I could barely walk because of the pain in both knees and Lowe back. Just like my stomach problems, the doctors couldn’t find a reason for the pain. I felt so old. Now, I run around and feel wonderful. I rejoice every single day now. I wish you continued success!!4
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For me, getting a good amount of fiber is difficult on Keto. High fiber is pretty essential for digestive health. It is possible I guess to reach 30 grams/per day without fruit, lequmes, grains but I would have to eat an enormous amount of vegetables. I have been doing the Med. diet which also reduces inflammation and has helped my spinal arthritis.10
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nationalvillage3215 wrote: »For me, getting a good amount of fiber is difficult on Keto. High fiber is pretty essential for digestive health. It is possible I guess to reach 30 grams/per day without fruit, lequmes, grains but I would have to eat an enormous amount of vegetables. I have been doing the Med. diet which also reduces inflammation and has helped my spinal arthritis.
I've seen it argued by low carb advocates that fiber isn't necessary when doing keto. However, there's a lot of reputable research that points to higher fiber intake being a good thing and may help reduce the onset of some diseases. The newest coming out of WHO is for higher intakes than currently recommended (over 30g a day).
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)31809-9/fulltext
(copy/paste the whole link into a new browser)10 -
homeschooljunglemom wrote: »Wow, so much misinformation about this way of eating.. Everyone’s giving their opinion but they don’t really know what they’re talking about.
Keto is a very personalized way of eating, so it does look different for different people. However, there are some principles that must be understood to be successful. Unfortunately, most who attempt it, do so without the research. It is NOT a diet of deprivation!!
My family is celebrating our 1-year “ketoversary” today and it has been the best year. I’ve lost 83 lbs. All together (7 of us) my family has lost over 300 lbs. so far. We all eat differently - we go by what our body needs. It is the easiest thing I’ve ever done. The only hard part was overcoming my sugar addiction (took 2 weeks cold turkey) and “unlearning” all the garbage nutritional info I’ve been taught. No calorie tracking. No deprivation. Incredible health.
In fact, what made it so easy for us to follow was how good we felt, so quickly! All of our numbers improved and my husband was off his blood pressure and cholesterol meds within 2 months. My 16-year-old son’s allergies are gone (unless he consumes too many carbs). My horrible acid reflux and stomach problems were gone within two weeks. I was a very old 56 year old and now I’m a very young 57 year old. Eating Keto gave me the energy to get up and go. I got a very active job after two months and now I am more energetic than the twenty-somethings I work with. In fact, I watch them move around sluggishly, complaining about how they feel, saying they could never give up their carbs.
So many of you say that you prefer calories in/calories out... but people can’t maintain that... they just slow down their metabolism. I’ve been effortlessly maintaining my weight loss since October and I feel like I eat just what I want.
Before you knock it, you should do some research.
In nineteen pages of comments, nobody but you knows what they're talking about? Okay.
Just so you know, I've been effortlessly maintaining my weight loss since mid-2015 and I just count calories, also eating just want I want within the context of my calorie goal. So what you're describing as your personal experience isn't something that is inherent to keto, it's a sign that you've found an eating style that works well for you. That doesn't mean that it will work for everyone and it doesn't mean that other people won't have success with other methods.
Non-keto people have success working active jobs, non-keto people manage to digest food successfully. I'm glad you've had success, but that doesn't mean that people who aren't doing keto have no idea what they're talking about.
At the end of the day, you've found a way to easily eat the number of calories you need. That's what we're all looking to do here, right?18 -
homeschooljunglemom wrote: »Wow, so much misinformation about this way of eating.. Everyone’s giving their opinion but they don’t really know what they’re talking about.
Keto is a very personalized way of eating, so it does look different for different people. However, there are some principles that must be understood to be successful. Unfortunately, most who attempt it, do so without the research. It is NOT a diet of deprivation!!
My family is celebrating our 1-year “ketoversary” today and it has been the best year. I’ve lost 83 lbs. All together (7 of us) my family has lost over 300 lbs. so far. We all eat differently - we go by what our body needs. It is the easiest thing I’ve ever done. The only hard part was overcoming my sugar addiction (took 2 weeks cold turkey) and “unlearning” all the garbage nutritional info I’ve been taught. No calorie tracking. No deprivation. Incredible health.
In fact, what made it so easy for us to follow was how good we felt, so quickly! All of our numbers improved and my husband was off his blood pressure and cholesterol meds within 2 months. My 16-year-old son’s allergies are gone (unless he consumes too many carbs). My horrible acid reflux and stomach problems were gone within two weeks. I was a very old 56 year old and now I’m a very young 57 year old. Eating Keto gave me the energy to get up and go. I got a very active job after two months and now I am more energetic than the twenty-somethings I work with. In fact, I watch them move around sluggishly, complaining about how they feel, saying they could never give up their carbs.
So many of you say that you prefer calories in/calories out... but people can’t maintain that... they just slow down their metabolism. I’ve been effortlessly maintaining my weight loss since October and I feel like I eat just what I want.
Before you knock it, you should do some research.
You've only been maintaining since October, so a few months. Most people regain their losses within two years, so get back with us in a few years and then we'll talk.
I'm coming up on 6 years of maintenance (being mindful of calories in/calories out), and I know the odds are still stacked against me, since I have 40+ years of maintenance ahead of me.
You're still in the honeymoon phase of weight loss. Maintenance is for 20, 30, 40+ years and most people fail at it, regardless of what plan they're following/what plan they used to lose weight.
Exactly. I've been maintaining since 2015, but I still feel like it's relatively early days. I want to be at a healthy weight for the rest of my life, this is a game where the decades count . . . not the months.9 -
janejellyroll wrote: »homeschooljunglemom wrote: »Wow, so much misinformation about this way of eating.. Everyone’s giving their opinion but they don’t really know what they’re talking about.
Keto is a very personalized way of eating, so it does look different for different people. However, there are some principles that must be understood to be successful. Unfortunately, most who attempt it, do so without the research. It is NOT a diet of deprivation!!
My family is celebrating our 1-year “ketoversary” today and it has been the best year. I’ve lost 83 lbs. All together (7 of us) my family has lost over 300 lbs. so far. We all eat differently - we go by what our body needs. It is the easiest thing I’ve ever done. The only hard part was overcoming my sugar addiction (took 2 weeks cold turkey) and “unlearning” all the garbage nutritional info I’ve been taught. No calorie tracking. No deprivation. Incredible health.
In fact, what made it so easy for us to follow was how good we felt, so quickly! All of our numbers improved and my husband was off his blood pressure and cholesterol meds within 2 months. My 16-year-old son’s allergies are gone (unless he consumes too many carbs). My horrible acid reflux and stomach problems were gone within two weeks. I was a very old 56 year old and now I’m a very young 57 year old. Eating Keto gave me the energy to get up and go. I got a very active job after two months and now I am more energetic than the twenty-somethings I work with. In fact, I watch them move around sluggishly, complaining about how they feel, saying they could never give up their carbs.
So many of you say that you prefer calories in/calories out... but people can’t maintain that... they just slow down their metabolism. I’ve been effortlessly maintaining my weight loss since October and I feel like I eat just what I want.
Before you knock it, you should do some research.
You've only been maintaining since October, so a few months. Most people regain their losses within two years, so get back with us in a few years and then we'll talk.
I'm coming up on 6 years of maintenance (being mindful of calories in/calories out), and I know the odds are still stacked against me, since I have 40+ years of maintenance ahead of me.
You're still in the honeymoon phase of weight loss. Maintenance is for 20, 30, 40+ years and most people fail at it, regardless of what plan they're following/what plan they used to lose weight.
Exactly. I've been maintaining since 2015, but I still feel like it's relatively early days. I want to be at a healthy weight for the rest of my life, this is a game where the decades count . . . not the months.
QFT. You know, this is one of the reasons I actually love going to the dentist. My hygienist has maintained a 75 pound loss for 30 years, including through two pregnancies. She watched my lose my weight, and enjoys our discussions as much as I do. I'm so thankful to her for all of her insights.6 -
homeschooljunglemom wrote: »Before you knock it, you should do some research.
Before you preach it as gospel you should see if you can maintain it for years, not months...
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »homeschooljunglemom wrote: »Wow, so much misinformation about this way of eating.. Everyone’s giving their opinion but they don’t really know what they’re talking about.
Keto is a very personalized way of eating, so it does look different for different people. However, there are some principles that must be understood to be successful. Unfortunately, most who attempt it, do so without the research. It is NOT a diet of deprivation!!
My family is celebrating our 1-year “ketoversary” today and it has been the best year. I’ve lost 83 lbs. All together (7 of us) my family has lost over 300 lbs. so far. We all eat differently - we go by what our body needs. It is the easiest thing I’ve ever done. The only hard part was overcoming my sugar addiction (took 2 weeks cold turkey) and “unlearning” all the garbage nutritional info I’ve been taught. No calorie tracking. No deprivation. Incredible health.
In fact, what made it so easy for us to follow was how good we felt, so quickly! All of our numbers improved and my husband was off his blood pressure and cholesterol meds within 2 months. My 16-year-old son’s allergies are gone (unless he consumes too many carbs). My horrible acid reflux and stomach problems were gone within two weeks. I was a very old 56 year old and now I’m a very young 57 year old. Eating Keto gave me the energy to get up and go. I got a very active job after two months and now I am more energetic than the twenty-somethings I work with. In fact, I watch them move around sluggishly, complaining about how they feel, saying they could never give up their carbs.
So many of you say that you prefer calories in/calories out... but people can’t maintain that... they just slow down their metabolism. I’ve been effortlessly maintaining my weight loss since October and I feel like I eat just what I want.
Before you knock it, you should do some research.
You've only been maintaining since October, so a few months. Most people regain their losses within two years, so get back with us in a few years and then we'll talk.
I'm coming up on 6 years of maintenance (being mindful of calories in/calories out), and I know the odds are still stacked against me, since I have 40+ years of maintenance ahead of me.
You're still in the honeymoon phase of weight loss. Maintenance is for 20, 30, 40+ years and most people fail at it, regardless of what plan they're following/what plan they used to lose weight.
Exactly. I've been maintaining since 2015, but I still feel like it's relatively early days. I want to be at a healthy weight for the rest of my life, this is a game where the decades count . . . not the months.
QFT. You know, this is one of the reasons I actually love going to the dentist. My hygienist has maintained a 75 pound loss for 30 years, including through two pregnancies. She watched my lose my weight, and enjoys our discussions as much as I do. I'm so thankful to her for all of her insights.
Wow, that's an amazing success story!1 -
I’ve been on the Keto bandwagon since Jan 2 of this year.
I can say I have benefitted greatly from the Keto diet! My husband and I are both on it. Both of us have lost a good chunk of weight!
Now, before starting it, I purged the house of everything not “Keto friendly” and ended up donating 5 Large Costco sizes bags to my friends (can’t let food go to waste!)
We haven’t started solely on the weight loss but from other health benefits as well. My husband has bowel issues and diabetes runs rampant through my family, not to mention other stomach issues. Since being on Keto, my husbands issues have stabilized and I haven’t had to take my heart burn medication since I’ve started!
I’ve been making all of our meals, baking everything that we still need and use (like “bread” for sandwiches, or “cookies” for a sweet tooth).
When grocery shopping, not only to I read labels but I also read the ingredient list and if sugar is one of the first 5 ingredients then I put it back and try to look for an alternative. Sure it takes more time but I’d rather be safe than sorry.
It feels like we do get looked down on by our diet change because a lot of people are misinformed about Keto.
They think all we do is eat bacon 24/7 or lumps of butter which is far from the truth!
I work in a lab and all of my coworkers want me to donate a tube of blood so that they can test my cholesterol levels.
They will find that my LDL has reached a newer low and my HDL will be high because of all the healthy fats I’ve been eating Like avocados, coconut oil, etc. Chicken is a huge part of my meals and rarely do we eat red meats.
Once in a while we’ll go out for a burger but get it lettuce wrapped. We certainly do not live of bacon alone (although, it is a nice treat but there’s a way around cooking it and draining all the grease from it - microwave and a lot of paper towels!)
I hope this helps. Sorry for the long post.5 -
@PalDali that is an awesome Keto success story. Best of continued success for both of you.
It is true about 30% of the population has trouble doing Keto for one reason or another but after 4.5 years of keto it has helped resolved so many of my health issues plus I did lose 50 pounds and maintained that loss for over 3 years now. Nearly every week I learn more about keto still today at the age of 68.14 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
@PalDali that is an awesome Keto success story. Best of continued success for both of you.
It is true about 30% of the population has trouble doing Keto for one reason or another but after 4.5 years of keto it has helped resolved so many of my health issues plus I did lose 50 pounds and maintained that loss for over 3 years now. Nearly every week I learn more about keto still today at the age of 68.
Do I even want to know where you came up with this figure? Seeing that the majority of the population hasn't even tried keto, I am curious how anyone can throw up any sort of statistic such as this.
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Keto is great! I lost weight with it. Then I got sick from an unrelated genetic defect. When I started eating carbs I gained 50 pounds back. I went back on LCHF, OMAD, and light fasting in December. I'm averaging over 3 pounds a week and I've lost 40 pounds already! I walk a few miles a day, but that's it on exercise. I'll never go back to a high carbohydrate, low calorie, low-fat diet. It's actually improving my illness I think!17
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GaleHawkins wrote: »
@PalDali that is an awesome Keto success story. Best of continued success for both of you.
It is true about 30% of the population has trouble doing Keto for one reason or another but after 4.5 years of keto it has helped resolved so many of my health issues plus I did lose 50 pounds and maintained that loss for over 3 years now. Nearly every week I learn more about keto still today at the age of 68.
Do I even want to know where you came up with this figure? Seeing that the majority of the population hasn't even tried keto, I am curious how anyone can throw up any sort of statistic such as this.
It's a PFA statistic, politely standing for Pulled From Air. Sort of like where Wile E. Coyote gets his signs...8 -
Keto is great! I lost weight with it. Then I got sick from an unrelated genetic defect. When I started eating carbs I gained 50 pounds back. I went back on LCHF, OMAD, and light fasting in December. I'm averaging over 3 pounds a week and I've lost 40 pounds already! I walk a few miles a day, but that's it on exercise. I'll never go back to a high carbohydrate, low calorie, low-fat diet. It's actually improving my illness I think!
If you are losing weight you are in a calorie deficit and if you’re losing 3 lbs/week - a pretty steep one at that. Keto can be a tool for those who enjoy eating that way or who have a medical reason to restrict carbs. OMAD and IF are just other such tools. Nothing magical about any of them, for weight loss.14 -
nationalvillage3215 wrote: »For me, getting a good amount of fiber is difficult on Keto. High fiber is pretty essential for digestive health. It is possible I guess to reach 30 grams/per day without fruit, lequmes, grains but I would have to eat an enormous amount of vegetables. I have been doing the Med. diet which also reduces inflammation and has helped my spinal arthritis.
I've seen it argued by low carb advocates that fiber isn't necessary when doing keto. However, there's a lot of reputable research that points to higher fiber intake being a good thing and may help reduce the onset of some diseases. The newest coming out of WHO is for higher intakes than currently recommended (over 30g a day).
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)31809-9/fulltext
(copy/paste the whole link into a new browser)
Hi,
Not everyone! I had a problem and my Gastro doctor said high fiber does not work for everyone. When I adopted a low carb diet my troubles went away. I eat a bunch of vegetables. But low carb is very low fiber. Don't listen to everything people tell you!10 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
@PalDali that is an awesome Keto success story. Best of continued success for both of you.
It is true about 30% of the population has trouble doing Keto for one reason or another but after 4.5 years of keto it has helped resolved so many of my health issues plus I did lose 50 pounds and maintained that loss for over 3 years now. Nearly every week I learn more about keto still today at the age of 68.
Try 90%. There is only about a 10% success rate with Keto.12 -
nationalvillage3215 wrote: »For me, getting a good amount of fiber is difficult on Keto. High fiber is pretty essential for digestive health. It is possible I guess to reach 30 grams/per day without fruit, lequmes, grains but I would have to eat an enormous amount of vegetables. I have been doing the Med. diet which also reduces inflammation and has helped my spinal arthritis.
I've seen it argued by low carb advocates that fiber isn't necessary when doing keto. However, there's a lot of reputable research that points to higher fiber intake being a good thing and may help reduce the onset of some diseases. The newest coming out of WHO is for higher intakes than currently recommended (over 30g a day).
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)31809-9/fulltext
(copy/paste the whole link into a new browser)
Hi,
Not everyone! I had a problem and my Gastro doctor said high fiber does not work for everyone. When I adopted a low carb diet my troubles went away. I eat a bunch of vegetables. But low carb is very low fiber. Don't listen to everything people tell you!
It largely depends on the disease. Many disease can benefit from fibrous diets, while others (like some forms of IBS) can increase symptoms. For the general populous who isn't in a disease state, fiber is very beneficial. Like protein, it has a high thermal effect for digestion, its highly correlated with being filling, and is loaded with vitamins and minerals.14 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Keto is great! I lost weight with it. Then I got sick from an unrelated genetic defect. When I started eating carbs I gained 50 pounds back. I went back on LCHF, OMAD, and light fasting in December. I'm averaging over 3 pounds a week and I've lost 40 pounds already! I walk a few miles a day, but that's it on exercise. I'll never go back to a high carbohydrate, low calorie, low-fat diet. It's actually improving my illness I think!
If you are losing weight you are in a calorie deficit and if you’re losing 3 lbs/week - a pretty steep one at that. Keto can be a tool for those who enjoy eating that way or who have a medical reason to restrict carbs. OMAD and IF are just other such tools. Nothing magical about any of them, for weight loss.
People like to say this but I do not agree. It's part of it but not the only reason. Low carb is a big factor because it stabilizes insulin. I've read many books on this. It's a fact supported by studies. I proved it to myself with my own experience and over 30 years of losing weight and gaining it back. When I eat high carb, low calorie I do not lose weight after a short time. I eat more calories and lose weight on low carb. It is magic for me!25
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