Intermittent fasting

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  • kds10
    kds10 Posts: 452 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    kds10 wrote: »
    I think NEAT is a great idea for everyone...I do IF as well and do not eat from 5:30 p.m. until lunchtime..I did a workout this morning at the gym 5K on the treadmill and now as I am at work and have a desk job I get up every 30 minutes and go for a 2 minute walk plus climb a flight of stairs. I figured moving more thru the day is good for all! I wish instead of a desk job that I had a job where I was moving all day long...say like getting 20K steps per day!

    Have you seen this thread? It might give you more ideas

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10610953/neat-improvement-strategies-to-improve-weight-loss/p1

    I will check that out! Thanks!
  • Help119
    Help119 Posts: 4 Member
    I've been doing IF for 8 weeks. I'm 125 lbs at 5 ft .4" tall. My goal is 119 lbs. The scale doesn't show any lbs lost. I weigh myself at the same time every 10 days. My meals are vegie and protein with very little carbs, no sugar. I cycle 30 mins a day, 4 times a week. What do I need to do to see weight loss?
  • ExistingFish
    ExistingFish Posts: 1,259 Member
    I have kind of ben trying this, not super seriously. I have coffee with cream in it in the morning. I'm not doing IF for any fancy purpose though, just to save my calories for later in the day. I have no problem coasting on just coffee until lunchtime (haven't tried it on an early gym day though) and I appreciate having more calories left for lunch and dinner. So far it's worked out well for me, if I were eating less calories I'd probably find it good too, as I often have plenty of leeway at the end of the day to eat whatever I want for dinner.

    So it's casually working for me.
  • Help119
    Help119 Posts: 4 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Help119 wrote: »
    I've been doing IF for 8 weeks. I'm 125 lbs at 5 ft .4" tall. My goal is 119 lbs. The scale doesn't show any lbs lost. I weigh myself at the same time every 10 days. My meals are vegie and protein with very little carbs, no sugar. I cycle 30 mins a day, 4 times a week. What do I need to do to see weight loss?

    You are already a pretty lean weight for your height, so losing more weight is going to happen slowly and require precision. You should be expecting an average loss of @ 0.5lbs per week at most, which can easily hide behind water weight fluctuations, so you may not actually see the scale move for weeks at a time, patience is a must.

    Log your food accurately and consistently. Use a food scale for all solids. Double check that the database entries you are using have the correct calories (most are user entered). Log every single darn thing. You are looking for a deficit of only 250 cals, which can be easy to negate with little logging errors.

    Alternately, you might want to focus more on fitness, it's possible building a little muscle will reshape your body far more than losing a few more lbs.

    Check out these posts when you get a chance:

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10177803/recomposition-maintaining-weight-while-losing-fat/p1

    :drinker:

    Thank you. I think you are Right. I've got to upmy exercise. I am pretty lean but want to get to 119lbs which feels right for me.
  • lleeann2001
    lleeann2001 Posts: 410 Member
    BrendaLee wrote: »
    3DCAKE wrote: »
    For my coffee drinkers.....What is a really good coffee that you wouldn't need anything in it?

    The only coffee I enjoy black is French Press. I'm using Tim Hortons Course Grind Original Blend, and it's quite nice.

    French Vanilla Blend. That's good. I like the coffees that lack a punch. I want it to be strong as heck! For why else am {I} drinking the darn stuff for.....😳
  • pierinifitness
    pierinifitness Posts: 2,226 Member
    @mangofish44, thanks for sharing, I’m happy for you.

    Stop by our Intermittent Fasting group here at MFP. I think you’ll like it.

    Keep marching forward in your fitness, health and wellness journey.
  • WilmaValley
    WilmaValley Posts: 1,092 Member
    Very interesting thread!
  • MelG7777
    MelG7777 Posts: 14,247 Member
    I’m new here. Is this group for IF support or is it more of a “is IF good” debate type forum? I was initially looking for a IF weigh loss buddy and was recommended to go to the IF group. Is this IF support, IF debate, or kind of both? Thanks.
  • zeejane03
    zeejane03 Posts: 993 Member
    MelG7777 wrote: »
    I’m new here. Is this group for IF support or is it more of a “is IF good” debate type forum? I was initially looking for a IF weigh loss buddy and was recommended to go to the IF group. Is this IF support, IF debate, or kind of both? Thanks.

    You're in the main forum area of the site, which covers all sorts of diet/health/fitness topics. If you're looking for the IF sub-group, here's the link to one of the more active IF groups

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/49-intermittent-fasting
  • MelG7777
    MelG7777 Posts: 14,247 Member
    3DCAKE wrote: »
    Just started IF yesterday. One thing I have to have coffee with sugar free powder. I want to try to start drinking it just black but it so hard. Any suggestion to help me get to that point?
    I’m sure it highly depends on who you ask and how “strict” you plan to be with yourself. If it were me, I’d just have my coffee the way I want and see what kind of results I get over, say, a 4-6 month period. You can always tweak things down the road. I think it’s best to do changes you can live with. I drink coffee with half and half in the morning and since I don’t really care if others consider that to be “fasting enough” it works for me. I plan to do that indefinitely. I have no desire to change at this point. Do what works for you and change as necessary. And don’t be too hard on yourself. If you truly still want to drink it black, hopefully someone will have suggestions for you. I used to use a TON of sugar in my coffee. A ton. One day I just stopped and I don’t even know why. I can’t stand it in coffee now and I’m kind of a sugar addict. Best wishes.
  • MelG7777
    MelG7777 Posts: 14,247 Member
    zeejane03 wrote: »
    MelG7777 wrote: »
    I’m new here. Is this group for IF support or is it more of a “is IF good” debate type forum? I was initially looking for a IF weigh loss buddy and was recommended to go to the IF group. Is this IF support, IF debate, or kind of both? Thanks.

    You're in the main forum area of the site, which covers all sorts of diet/health/fitness topics. If you're looking for the IF sub-group, here's the link to one of the more active IF groups

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/49-intermittent-fasting
    Awesome! Thank you so much for that. I appreciate it. I’ll check that out.
  • MelG7777
    MelG7777 Posts: 14,247 Member
    MelG7777 wrote: »
    3DCAKE wrote: »
    Just started IF yesterday. One thing I have to have coffee with sugar free powder. I want to try to start drinking it just black but it so hard. Any suggestion to help me get to that point?
    I’m sure it highly depends on who you ask and how “strict” you plan to be with yourself. If it were me, I’d just have my coffee the way I want and see what kind of results I get over, say, a 4-6 month period. You can always tweak things down the road. I think it’s best to do changes you can live with. I drink coffee with half and half in the morning and since I don’t really care if others consider that to be “fasting enough” it works for me. I plan to do that indefinitely. I have no desire to change at this point. Do what works for you and change as necessary. And don’t be too hard on yourself. If you truly still want to drink it black, hopefully someone will have suggestions for you. I used to use a TON of sugar in my coffee. A ton. One day I just stopped and I don’t even know why. I can’t stand it in coffee now and I’m kind of a sugar addict. Best wishes.
    Duh....I meant 4-6 WEEKS not months. Oops. But whatever works though.
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    edited March 2019
    MelG7777 wrote: »
    MelG7777 wrote: »
    3DCAKE wrote: »
    Just started IF yesterday. One thing I have to have coffee with sugar free powder. I want to try to start drinking it just black but it so hard. Any suggestion to help me get to that point?
    I’m sure it highly depends on who you ask and how “strict” you plan to be with yourself. If it were me, I’d just have my coffee the way I want and see what kind of results I get over, say, a 4-6 month period. You can always tweak things down the road. I think it’s best to do changes you can live with. I drink coffee with half and half in the morning and since I don’t really care if others consider that to be “fasting enough” it works for me. I plan to do that indefinitely. I have no desire to change at this point. Do what works for you and change as necessary. And don’t be too hard on yourself. If you truly still want to drink it black, hopefully someone will have suggestions for you. I used to use a TON of sugar in my coffee. A ton. One day I just stopped and I don’t even know why. I can’t stand it in coffee now and I’m kind of a sugar addict. Best wishes.
    Duh....I meant 4-6 WEEKS not months. Oops. But whatever works though.

    Nah, you're just a VERY patient person :wink:

    It's weird the different things folks are particular about in their coffee. And what they can manage to change or not change. I bet FB could use what you put in your coffee for a personality test.

    When I was doing 16:8, I did have a large cup of coffee with about a quarter cup of milk in the AM, it didn't make me hungry, so I rolled with it!
  • mangofish44
    mangofish44 Posts: 57 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Reading Dr. Fung’s the obesity code changed my life. I’ve been consistently losing 2+ pounds a week and about to hit 35 lbs lost, and feeling a strong sense of satiety as I have not been depriving myself.

    I really feel that this is going to be a new lifestyle way of eating / living going forward.

    Why is there no biggest loser reunion? Because 10ish of 12 have put all the weight back on. There is simply more to dieting than a calorie in is a calorie out.

    Dr. Fung looks at the harmonal changes that happen to the body when you eat protien, fat, or carhbohydrate.

    There’s a reason why there is a glycemic index to help diabetics show which food spike your blood sugar causing the insulin reaction. If every calorie was simply the same why would thr glycemic index matter? Why wouldn’t diabetics eat any food they want, keep calorie count low, and disregard the effect that food item has on blood sugar? Simple, different food cause different harmonal reactions in body.

    Dr. Fung doesn’t “cherry pick” studies as a poster suggested. The book will change the way you think about eating. It’s a fascinating read and strongly recommended. For the poster who said it’s a “waste to spend 20”, that’s less than most people spend on a day. 15 dollars to change your life? Sounds worth it to me.

    I have read a lot of Fung's work, but I would never buy his book. The articles on his website alone don't provide me high confidence. The fact that he doesn't believe in CICO, despite thousands of metabolic ward studies, is the biggest turn off. Also, his belief that fast will help build muscle is a bit laughable. There are many reliable scientist that show the increase in growth hormone cause by fast is a result of metabolize fatty acids. This doesn't even get into the fact that GH has zero impact on cross-sectional muscle. In fact, there are several meta-analyses that show GH only increases water weight and in burn victims can improve connective tissue.

    In generally, I do not take nutrition advice from MD's. It's the same principle in that I wouldn't take cardiology advice from a dermatologist. Yes, they are both doctors, but they do not hold the same credentials. Can MD's help. Sure. Some even might be more educated. But if I am looking for why something is occurring and what are the true benefits (outside of weight loss), than I am looking for people who have PhD's or Masters in the field and actually develop and conduct experiments. Fung is full of theories, but hasn't shown them in a study.

    Like you, I also lost a good amount of weight (like 7 years ago and have kept it off), but on the completely different plan. I lost it on a high protein, high carb, low fat plan. I never felt hungry, nor did I feel deprived. Why? Because i ate foods I loved, that kept me full, and included treats as part of the equation. My triglycerides went from 220 down to 40, my HDL doubled, have no inflammation, my A1C is 4.3, and every marker is in a good position.

    As part of my journey, I tried IF, Paleo, Keto, and so many more (this was after I lost the weight and was aiming for vanity lbs). What I discovered is that none of those plans work for me. They all leave me starving and cause binge issues.

    Regarding GI. The bigger concern is actually glycemic load because people rarely eat foods in isolation after you have been fasting all night. Does GL even matter? Potentially, but I don't think there is evidence showing a huge impact. It might matter in terms of satiety for some. But what I found is that I never had the issues. Ironically, all my best days exercising have been after I have consumed very high sugar, moderate protein meals. Ultimately, I think it comes down to what supports your goals and helps you reach those objectives.

    Ultimately, regardless of the plan you follow, it's the one that helps you sustain weight loss that truly provides the benefits. Can we say that IF provides benefits over caloric restriction alone? I am not sure we have sufficient evidence currently to back that. So the question is, if one cares for the science, is what provides the health benefits, caloric restriction or IF. Because I am pretty positive, I received all the same benefits as people following IF and I did the completely different plan.

    That’s incredible you’ve kept the weight off so long. I have yoyod in years past and have a feeling this time will be different.


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