Do you drink diet soda?
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JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »No. It's poison in a can and you have the pleasure to pay a corporation to slowly kill yourself! It's like smoking in that regard. Weird chemicals, etc. This goes for all soda - diet or regular.
Could you post some science to back up that claim please? What is in "all soda" that is slowly killing us and makes it like smoking? Thanks!
OK, you wanted it. There is countless scientific data to back things up that diet soda just sucks! At the end of the day there are also a countless "articles" that outline the opposite. It boils down to, do what you like! Who cares. <snip>
I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood or maybe I wasn't specific. I wasn't looking for a propaganda blog trying to sell books by fear mongering, I was asking for scientific research. Thanks though!19 -
https://cheatsheet.com/health-fitness/diet-soda-is-bad-for-your-gut-health-plus-other-reasons-to-avoid-the-drink.html/
Perhaps changes in the gut microbiota is one reason some say diet drinks to not agree with them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_microbiota
The human microbiome studies are relative new in medical science and sometimes studies bring up more questions than answers. I am starting to think keto's impact on the human microbiome is one of the diets side effect that can bring health improvements at least in my case.
We do not have a clear understanding of the trillions of things living inside of us to keep us healthy or unhealthy work together. Changes in the microbiota could be a clue as to why diet drinks can lead to weight gain in some people and not in others perhaps. The human microbiota may be the 'debate' of the next 30 years.2 -
tammyfranks2 wrote: »I have drank diet soda for years like 10+ years and I am very over weight and diabetic , over 14 months ago I went on a keto diet and I have lost 109 pounds and I have not drank diet soda all that time , just a week ago I tried to drink a coke zero , my favorite , and it made my stomach hurt also next morning my blood sugar was higher , I learned a huge lesson, I am back to drinking lots of water , I will have tea and coffee , no sweeteners , and I will always live like this from now on , diet soda is just as bad as real sugar filled soda . so do your sugar levels a favor and your tummy a favor , and don't drink the stuff !!
Yes, it's clear that quitting diet pop caused your weight loss and not the evident reduction in calories caused by your keto diet. And it was clearly the aspartame that made your belly hurt and not the carbonation you're no longer used to.
As for your elevated sugar levels the next day, it couldn't have possibly been caused by anything other than the drink with absolutely no sugar in it. I'm sure that's the only change you made to your routine (we all know we naturally tend to only indulge in one treat per evening rather than allow things to snowball when our routines get shaken up) and certainly the sugarless drink you had the night before would still be adding sugar to your blood many hours later after a night's sleep.
You have proven unequivocally that diet pop hurts our bellies (even though millions of us drink it without stomach pain) and raises our blood sugar magically, despite containing no sugar or any mechanism by which to add sugar to our bodies.
We can all rest assured that the numerous studies which contradict your reported experience are rendered null by your conclusive n=1.15 -
JohnnytotheB wrote: »No. It's poison in a can and you have the pleasure to pay a corporation to slowly kill yourself! It's like smoking in that regard. Weird chemicals, etc. This goes for all soda - diet or regular.
Exactly what 'weird chemicals' are in soda - diet or otherwise?
Water. And lots of it. Deadly stuff, that dihydrogen monoxide...13 -
JohnnytotheB wrote: »No. It's poison in a can and you have the pleasure to pay a corporation to slowly kill yourself! It's like smoking in that regard. Weird chemicals, etc. This goes for all soda - diet or regular.
Could you post some science to back up that claim please? What is in "all soda" that is slowly killing us and makes it like smoking? Thanks!
Stop being a sheep
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You win2 -
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JohnnytotheB wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »It says toxins and not poison, but can I use it here anyway?!?
You must work for Coke or Pepsi!
You're entertaining.0 -
Well this is awkward...I'm most of the 12th page...13
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Well, ever since I contributed to this thread, I've remembered diet sodas as an option. So thanks! I've started to cycle it back in as an option (about 20% Coke Zero : 80% Lacroix Lime).
Heyyyyyyyyyy, you're not in So Cal, are ya? We're trying to pawn off a couple cases of the La Croix Lime.
GDI! I left there last year!!0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Well this is awkward...I'm most of the 12th page...
It's amazing how much you managed to say with all those cookies in your mouth! 9 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »
Why do you think I need to keep drinking it?3 -
I very rarely drink water. Only when there's nothing else available. I drink diet sodas almost exclusively, though I have been known to drink club soda on occasion. I like my carbonation, and I drink about 2 2-liter bottles per day as a minimum (about 12 cans I guess). I 've been drinking that much for the last 17 years or so, with regular coke the decade before. I got MFP 8 months ago, and lost 77lbs so far, but with no reduction in diet soda intake, so it doesn't affect my weight loss one way or the other.
That said, it has an impact on my wallet, but then so would smoking, if I did that. Diet soda is my vice.
P.S. Yeah, I do get the occasional cavity, but no more than expected.
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I drank diet soda through the first 5 months or so of my weight loss and lost 90 or so pounds. I started to plateau so I was looking for something to mix it up and so I cut those out and promised myself if I drank any I would count them like regular sodas. When I had soda cravings at work I dealt with it by filling up a 32 oz bottle and drinking water instead.
It was incredible the difference that made. I had almost no cravings throughout the day, stopped snacking, had a ton more energy to work out and went from losing about 2.5 pounds a week through the beginning of the year to jumping back up to 4-5 pound losses per week.
You can obviously do it either way but I'm really happy in my post-diet coke life.1 -
I drank diet soda through the first 5 months or so of my weight loss and lost 90 or so pounds. I started to plateau so I was looking for something to mix it up and so I cut those out and promised myself if I drank any I would count them like regular sodas. When I had soda cravings at work I dealt with it by filling up a 32 oz bottle and drinking water instead.
It was incredible the difference that made. I had almost no cravings throughout the day, stopped snacking, had a ton more energy to work out and went from losing about 2.5 pounds a week through the beginning of the year to jumping back up to 4-5 pound losses per week.
You can obviously do it either way but I'm really happy in my post-diet coke life.
Yeah, caffeine can be a killer when it comes to energy crashes.0 -
I drink one or two diet pops per day because I like it. Coke Zero is my preferred drink. I also drink water, but usually flavor one or two bottles with Wyler's light lemonade singles. I just don't care for plain water unless I'm working out or have a seriously powerful thirst.0
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A friend of mine refuses to drink diet soda because of it being "poison." She also buys mostly organic foods and preaches their benefit. All while drinking like a fish and smoking two packs a day. Ironic much?9
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I do when I'm in the mood for soda. I also sometimes have unsweetened sparkling flavored water. I am very picky on what I will drink at any given time and it very much depends on my mood,but my weight loss plan requires that it be sugar free. I tire of things quickly and I am not a fan of water so I bounce around a lot from beverage to beverage, but my main staple is diet green tea.1
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JohnnytotheB wrote: »Ammonium sulfate is then added (also a constituent of Round Up Ready Chemicals used by Monsanto).
You know what else is a component of Round Up Ready Chemicals (and of Round Up itself)? Water. That's right. That super dangerous chemical that slowly kills us all.
Oh how difficult it is to portray sarcasm over text, I hope it's not r/wooshing you too much.7 -
OnFireWithin wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »OnFireWithin wrote: »Nope, no diet soda, limited regular soda. I get wanting an alternative if you're a serial soda drinker, but I've only ever had it sporadically, so I find it better just to cut it out altogether. I've read things about artificial sweeteners being almost as bad as sugar. They may or not be true considering the ever-changing nature of nutrition 'facts' but I figure best not to take the chance in this case.
You're reading the wrong things.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25842566
Thank you for sharing an abstract from a single study that acknowledges the continued debate on whether artificial sweeteners pose any health risks. One study doth not rule them all nor settle that debate. Even my own post did not assert whether artificial sweeteners are beneficial or detrimental, only that there are views on either side. Rather than take the risk, I personally avoid them. Anybody else is free to do as they will and come what may.
Ah, but that is not a single study: it is a review.9
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