Do you drink diet soda?
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No. Don't drink soda unless I am making a cocktail and in that case it's always regular. So my overall consumption is low and with that, I don't feel the need to go diet.
I also don't really do artificial sweeteners, they tend to upset my stomach.0 -
JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »No. It's poison in a can and you have the pleasure to pay a corporation to slowly kill yourself! It's like smoking in that regard. Weird chemicals, etc. This goes for all soda - diet or regular.
Could you post some science to back up that claim please? What is in "all soda" that is slowly killing us and makes it like smoking? Thanks!
OK, you wanted it. There is countless scientific data to back things up that diet soda just sucks! At the end of the day there are also a countless "articles" that outline the opposite. It boils down to, do what you like! Who cares. Most are going to do what they want anyway! Were all adults!
http://naturalsociety.com/chemicals-really-in-coca-cola-coke-soda/
Perhaps you already know that the Coca-Cola Co. has committed atrocious ground-water polluting in other countries, along with creating water shortages. You probably know as well that the company is turning providing the mass population with toxic beverage choices. After reading this quick, informative article, you will understand exactly what you are putting into your body, and this just might make it easier to break the Coke-drinking habit.
Here’s what’s really in Coca-Cola’s famous Coke soda:
Carbonated tap water – Whatever is in unfiltered municipal water is also in your Coke. The carbonation that is added increases gastric secretions and can make you flatulent. Here is what your tap water looks like, by the way.
E150D – This is a food coloring, which is made from processing sugar at certain temperatures. Ammonium sulfate is then added (also a constituent of Round Up Ready Chemicals used by Monsanto). This chemical has been known to increase asthma attacks.
E952 – This is a sugar substitute. It is 200 times sweeter than sugar and can cause your glycemic levels to sky-rocket. This can lead to diabetes, obesity and other diseases.
E950 – This is Acesulfame Potassium, and it aggravates the heart, vascular system, and nervous system. It is especially bad for children and pregnant women.
E951 – Aspartame – A GMO product which can cause seriously negative impact on your body. Symptoms of aspartame poisoning include: unconsciousness, headaches, fatigue, dizziness, nausea, palpitation, weight gain, irritability, anxiety, memory loss, blurry vision, fainting, joint pains, depression, infertility, hearing loss and more. Aspartame can also provoke the following diseases: brain tumors, MS (Multiple Sclerosis), epilepsy, Graves’ disease, chronic fatigue, Alzheimer’s, diabetes, mental deficiency and tuberculosis. Later, this substance was initially illegal due to its dangers but was again made legal in a suspicious manner.
E338 – Orthophosphoric Acid – This causes skin and eye irritation, and can interfere with your body’s ability to absorb calcium, causing osteoporosis.
E330 – Citric Acid – This is preservative that is also used in the medical field for preserving blood. In small doses it is fine, but in large doses it can eat away at your stomach and esophageal lining.
Aromas – Unknown aromatic additives.
E211 – Sodium Benzoate – According to a study completed by Peter Piper at the Sheffield University in Britain, sodium benzoate can harm DNA.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Well this is awkward...I'm most of the 12th page...
It's amazing how much you managed to say with all those cookies in your mouth!
He's got diet soda to wash them down with! 3 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Only when I'm thirsty and want something fizzy and cold. I imagine it looks something like this:
LOL. WHY oh WHY can't we have an LOL button on MFP?
Oh, co-cola or no no co-cola... personally I do not drink regular or diet anything. They just taste too sweet to me. But we're all adults here. Do what you want! Now coffee, I am totally addicted to that... Also I like a perfect glass of unsweetened ice tea, but it's hard to get it perfect. For me a perfect glass of ice tea is one that has absolutely no flavor, but is slightly astringent. Mmmmmm.
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Yup. I completely cut out the regular soda because it was so easy for me to drink a bunch in a single day but I like my soda too much to give it up. But diet soda I find has a lot more carbonation, or at least it feels that way as it irritates my stomach. So I am slowly trying to shift away to one or two cans a day only and even then with meals.
Like another poster said, drinking diet soda makes me incredibly meh towards water so it’s a balancing act.2 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »
Why do you think I need to keep drinking it?
Obviously no one but you can answer that question, but FOR ME it's a zero calorie beverage that relieves the boredom of water and allows me to spend my calories on food, which is far more satisfying.4 -
tammyfranks2 wrote: »tammyfranks2 wrote: »I have drank diet soda for years like 10+ years and I am very over weight and diabetic , over 14 months ago I went on a keto diet and I have lost 109 pounds and I have not drank diet soda all that time , just a week ago I tried to drink a coke zero , my favorite , and it made my stomach hurt also next morning my blood sugar was higher , I learned a huge lesson, I am back to drinking lots of water , I will have tea and coffee , no sweeteners , and I will always live like this from now on , diet soda is just as bad as real sugar filled soda . so do your sugar levels a favor and your tummy a favor , and don't drink the stuff !!
My sugar levels are fine, have a perfectly good working pancreas - and my tummy is fine too.
I drink diet soda regularly - ever since starting calorie counting. Along with the very occasional non diet version.
Of course you can make whatever choice works for you - but blanket statements exhortations like Do your sugar level as and your tummy a favour!! based on your n=1 experience are just silly.
*repeats oft told story* sorry for those who have read this many times before...
My husband is allergic to cats.
keeping away from cats is good idea for him
Exhorting everyone to Do yourself a favour and avoid all cats!! based on his n= 1 would be absurd.
I am a type 2 diabetic , I also am 53 and have arthritis , I have so carefully watched my sugar levels and I work My keto diet very closely , it did make my stomach hurt and I usually wake up to 90 to 110 fasting blood sugar levels , the morning after the diet soda , my blood sugar was 135 , Iam not silly , I have learned my body (I have never before listened to my body) so that is why I have gained so much weight . NOW my body tells me what I can deal with and what I can't deal with , so for me and only me I do not drink diet soda . and also not drinking the diet sodas helps with my arthritis, when I use to drink them on a daily routine , my joints hurt , since I have stopped I feel better , I am not in as much pain . so You all do what you want , and drink them , but putting someone down for their personal choice is also silly .[/quote]
No I did not put you down for your personal choice at all - in fact I quite clearly said you can make whatever choice works for you.
What I said was silly was exhorting everyone else to Do your sugar levels and your tummy a favour! based on what works for you.
Many people in the thread have said they don't drink it because they don't like it, it makes them feel bloated or some other unpleasant effect - no problem there.
Problem is only when you expect that to apply to everyone else
Telling everyone else to avoid it isn't posting about 'for me and only me'
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Even though diet sodas are better for you than normal soda they still aren’t great for your health! Even though they have no or low calories they put so much *kitten* inside them that you’re better of just drinking water!13
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I do drink them... It is my slow process of quitting. I drank a lot of regular soda before starting this journey. Enough that when I lied to my doctor about how much I drank his eyes still bugged out....
I went from probably a 2 liter or more of regular soda to 3 cans of diet a day... Next goal is down to 2 a day 1 -
Even though diet sodas are better for you than normal soda they still aren’t great for your health! Even though they have no or low calories they put so much *kitten* inside them that you’re better of just drinking water!
for me they are better than normal soda - they have way less calories so that helps me stay within my calorie allowance.
It isn't a polarised Either/ Or thing though - I drink plenty of water too as well as a few cans of diet soda per week.
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JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »No. It's poison in a can and you have the pleasure to pay a corporation to slowly kill yourself! It's like smoking in that regard. Weird chemicals, etc. This goes for all soda - diet or regular.
Could you post some science to back up that claim please? What is in "all soda" that is slowly killing us and makes it like smoking? Thanks!
OK, you wanted it. There is countless scientific data to back things up that diet soda just sucks! At the end of the day there are also a countless "articles" that outline the opposite. It boils down to, do what you like! Who cares. <snip>
I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood or maybe I wasn't specific. I wasn't looking for a propaganda blog trying to sell books by fear mongering, I was asking for scientific research. Thanks though!
Really? I think your just trying to get people to argue with you. Or you always take the other side in an argument because it's fun or what you do. I also like how you actually cut off the pertinent part of what I typed earlier.
I'm not going to do the research for you. You can empower yourself by checking out what these accredited doctors/science people/etc say:
Dr. Bhavish Aubeelauck
Dr. Carrie Hoarty
Dr. Eric Berg
Dr. Josh Axe
Dr. Steven Gundry
Dr. Mike Varshavski
Dr. Jennifer Ashton
Dr. Gloria Gilbere
I can furnish you with a number of other names if you want. Before you say anything to the contrary, please provide accredited people who say the opposite or if you are accredited that's even better.
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Carlos_421 wrote: »
Why do you think I need to keep drinking it?
Obviously no one but you can answer that question, but FOR ME it's a zero calorie beverage that relieves the boredom of water and allows me to spend my calories on food, which is far more satisfying.
That's nice. I said I need to stop drinking it, I didn't say anything about you or anyone else regarding diet soda consumption. Odd that saying I need to stop putting something in my own body elicits responses from others expecting me to justify a decision that has no effect on them whatsoever, and defending their own choices, even though I didn't say anything about their choices.4 -
JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »No. It's poison in a can and you have the pleasure to pay a corporation to slowly kill yourself! It's like smoking in that regard. Weird chemicals, etc. This goes for all soda - diet or regular.
Could you post some science to back up that claim please? What is in "all soda" that is slowly killing us and makes it like smoking? Thanks!
OK, you wanted it. There is countless scientific data to back things up that diet soda just sucks! At the end of the day there are also a countless "articles" that outline the opposite. It boils down to, do what you like! Who cares. <snip>
I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood or maybe I wasn't specific. I wasn't looking for a propaganda blog trying to sell books by fear mongering, I was asking for scientific research. Thanks though!
Really? I think your just trying to get people to argue with you. Or you always take the other side in an argument because it's fun or what you do. I also like how you actually cut off the pertinent part of what I typed earlier.
I'm not going to do the research for you. You can empower yourself by checking out what these accredited doctors/science people/etc say:
Dr. Bhavish Aubeelauck
Dr. Carrie Hoarty
Dr. Eric Berg
Dr. Josh Axe
Dr. Steven Gundry
Dr. Mike Varshavski
Dr. Jennifer Ashton
Dr. Gloria Gilbere
I can furnish you with a number of other names if you want. Before you say anything to the contrary, please provide accredited people who say the opposite or if you are accredited that's even better.
The opinions of doctors aren't sources though, doctors are just as capable of cherry-picking or misrepresenting data as anyone else when they are trying to promote themselves as a thought leader, guru, and author.
You can't prove anything is 100% safe, all you can do is know that nothing has ever shown them to do harm. I have already done plenty of research. I've looked at all the data and studies that charlatans like Dr. Axe put forward, and they don't actually prove what some people say they prove.
This isn't a debate thread, so I'm just going to leave it at that. This has actually been debated in appropriate threads before, anything I could say here has already been said in those threads if you're interested
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10712136/artificial-sweeteners/p1
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10692729/diet-coke/p1
And this one wasn't a debate thread but is on this subject
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
I'm actually not a contrarian or much of an arguer generally. But I’ve learned a lot here about vetting sources and reading research studies. Have a great day :drinker:16 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »
Why do you think I need to keep drinking it?
Obviously no one but you can answer that question, but FOR ME it's a zero calorie beverage that relieves the boredom of water and allows me to spend my calories on food, which is far more satisfying.
That's nice. I said I need to stop drinking it, I didn't say anything about you or anyone else regarding diet soda consumption. Odd that saying I need to stop putting something in my own body elicits responses from others expecting me to justify a decision that has no effect on them whatsoever, and defending their own choices, even though I didn't say anything about their choices.
I thought this was a discussion for exchange of ideas and opinions about diet sodas (obviously a bit of a hot button issue here) so I offered mine. That's all.6 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »
Why do you think I need to keep drinking it?
Obviously no one but you can answer that question, but FOR ME it's a zero calorie beverage that relieves the boredom of water and allows me to spend my calories on food, which is far more satisfying.
That's nice. I said I need to stop drinking it, I didn't say anything about you or anyone else regarding diet soda consumption. Odd that saying I need to stop putting something in my own body elicits responses from others expecting me to justify a decision that has no effect on them whatsoever, and defending their own choices, even though I didn't say anything about their choices.
It could have been helpful. Someone else drinking it might have considered your reasoning and decided they too needed to cut down or quit.4 -
JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »No. It's poison in a can and you have the pleasure to pay a corporation to slowly kill yourself! It's like smoking in that regard. Weird chemicals, etc. This goes for all soda - diet or regular.
Could you post some science to back up that claim please? What is in "all soda" that is slowly killing us and makes it like smoking? Thanks!
OK, you wanted it. There is countless scientific data to back things up that diet soda just sucks! At the end of the day there are also a countless "articles" that outline the opposite. It boils down to, do what you like! Who cares. <snip>
I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood or maybe I wasn't specific. I wasn't looking for a propaganda blog trying to sell books by fear mongering, I was asking for scientific research. Thanks though!
Really? I think your just trying to get people to argue with you. Or you always take the other side in an argument because it's fun or what you do. I also like how you actually cut off the pertinent part of what I typed earlier.
I'm not going to do the research for you. You can empower yourself by checking out what these accredited doctors/science people/etc say:
Dr. Bhavish Aubeelauck
Dr. Carrie Hoarty
Dr. Eric Berg
Dr. Josh Axe
Dr. Steven Gundry
Dr. Mike Varshavski
Dr. Jennifer Ashton
Dr. Gloria Gilbere
I can furnish you with a number of other names if you want. Before you say anything to the contrary, please provide accredited people who say the opposite or if you are accredited that's even better.
Josh Axe is a chiropractor. It's highly unlikely he's done clinical research into artificial sweeteners, so basically you're just telling us we should listen to a chiropractor who thinks they're bad?
Eric Berg, another chiropractor. Isn't it weird that these guys always stress "DOCTOR" in their branding?
I haven't heard of the rest of them, but are they doing actual research or are they chiropractors and naturopaths who want us to pay more attention to the word "Doctor" than what they've actually produced in terms of evidence?12 -
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Carlos_421 wrote: »
Why do you think I need to keep drinking it?
Obviously no one but you can answer that question, but FOR ME it's a zero calorie beverage that relieves the boredom of water and allows me to spend my calories on food, which is far more satisfying.
That's nice. I said I need to stop drinking it, I didn't say anything about you or anyone else regarding diet soda consumption. Odd that saying I need to stop putting something in my own body elicits responses from others expecting me to justify a decision that has no effect on them whatsoever, and defending their own choices, even though I didn't say anything about their choices.
Um, if I said I need to quit coffee for a while, and someone asked why, I wouldn't take that as that person demanding that I justify my decision or thought I needed to keep drinking it. I'd take it as curiosity. Depending, I might say it was personal or not. If I volunteered it on a forum, I'd probably not consider it private, so I wouldn't find it somehow offensive if someone asked a question. I also did not read pinuplove as defending anything, but just explaining her reasons.
Btw, I might quit coffee for a while and have before because of the caffeine, and my inclination to drink too much of it. I don't drink much diet soda (although occasionally, and I enjoy them).12 -
JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »No. It's poison in a can and you have the pleasure to pay a corporation to slowly kill yourself! It's like smoking in that regard. Weird chemicals, etc. This goes for all soda - diet or regular.
Could you post some science to back up that claim please? What is in "all soda" that is slowly killing us and makes it like smoking? Thanks!
OK, you wanted it. There is countless scientific data to back things up that diet soda just sucks! At the end of the day there are also a countless "articles" that outline the opposite. It boils down to, do what you like! Who cares. <snip>
I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood or maybe I wasn't specific. I wasn't looking for a propaganda blog trying to sell books by fear mongering, I was asking for scientific research. Thanks though!
Really? I think your just trying to get people to argue with you. Or you always take the other side in an argument because it's fun or what you do. I also like how you actually cut off the pertinent part of what I typed earlier.
I'm not going to do the research for you. You can empower yourself by checking out what these accredited doctors/science people/etc say:
Dr. Bhavish Aubeelauck
Dr. Carrie Hoarty
Dr. Eric Berg
Dr. Josh Axe
Dr. Steven Gundry
Dr. Mike Varshavski
Dr. Jennifer Ashton
Dr. Gloria Gilbere
I can furnish you with a number of other names if you want. Before you say anything to the contrary, please provide accredited people who say the opposite or if you are accredited that's even better.
I don't know who all those people are and can't be bothered to look them up now, but that it includes Axe and Berg demonstrates conclusively to me that they are unlikely to be reputable.14 -
Yes. I have very few vices left and my Dr says I'm fit as a racehorse. I figure I can indulge now and then.5
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JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »No. It's poison in a can and you have the pleasure to pay a corporation to slowly kill yourself! It's like smoking in that regard. Weird chemicals, etc. This goes for all soda - diet or regular.
Could you post some science to back up that claim please? What is in "all soda" that is slowly killing us and makes it like smoking? Thanks!
OK, you wanted it. There is countless scientific data to back things up that diet soda just sucks! At the end of the day there are also a countless "articles" that outline the opposite. It boils down to, do what you like! Who cares. <snip>
I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood or maybe I wasn't specific. I wasn't looking for a propaganda blog trying to sell books by fear mongering, I was asking for scientific research. Thanks though!
Really? I think your just trying to get people to argue with you. Or you always take the other side in an argument because it's fun or what you do. I also like how you actually cut off the pertinent part of what I typed earlier.
I'm not going to do the research for you. You can empower yourself by checking out what these accredited doctors/science people/etc say:
Dr. Bhavish Aubeelauck
Dr. Carrie Hoarty
Dr. Eric Berg
Dr. Josh Axe
Dr. Steven Gundry
Dr. Mike Varshavski
Dr. Jennifer Ashton
Dr. Gloria Gilbere
I can furnish you with a number of other names if you want. Before you say anything to the contrary, please provide accredited people who say the opposite or if you are accredited that's even better.
Evolution is one of the most successful theories in all of science, and essentially the most in biology. Yet there is a list of numerous PhDs who disagree with evolution:
https://www.discovery.org/m/2019/02/A-Scientific-Dissent-from-Darwinism-List-020419.pdf
I'd be more interested in their reasons against diet soda, particularly what scientific evidence they have about the matter.5 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »JohnnytotheB wrote: »No. It's poison in a can and you have the pleasure to pay a corporation to slowly kill yourself! It's like smoking in that regard. Weird chemicals, etc. This goes for all soda - diet or regular.
Could you post some science to back up that claim please? What is in "all soda" that is slowly killing us and makes it like smoking? Thanks!
OK, you wanted it. There is countless scientific data to back things up that diet soda just sucks! At the end of the day there are also a countless "articles" that outline the opposite. It boils down to, do what you like! Who cares. <snip>
I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood or maybe I wasn't specific. I wasn't looking for a propaganda blog trying to sell books by fear mongering, I was asking for scientific research. Thanks though!
Really? I think your just trying to get people to argue with you. Or you always take the other side in an argument because it's fun or what you do. I also like how you actually cut off the pertinent part of what I typed earlier.
I'm not going to do the research for you. You can empower yourself by checking out what these accredited doctors/science people/etc say:
Dr. Bhavish Aubeelauck
Dr. Carrie Hoarty
Dr. Eric Berg
Dr. Josh Axe
Dr. Steven Gundry
Dr. Mike Varshavski
Dr. Jennifer Ashton
Dr. Gloria Gilbere
I can furnish you with a number of other names if you want. Before you say anything to the contrary, please provide accredited people who say the opposite or if you are accredited that's even better.
Evolution is one of the most successful theories in all of science, and essentially the most in biology. Yet there is a list of numerous PhDs who disagree with evolution:
https://www.discovery.org/m/2019/02/A-Scientific-Dissent-from-Darwinism-List-020419.pdf
I'd be more interested in their reasons against diet soda, particularly what scientific evidence they have about the matter.
That escalated quickly, lol.1 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »
Why do you think I need to keep drinking it?
I didn't say or imply that you do. In fact, I don't even think that you need to keep drinking it.
But you did say that you need to quit.
Since you called it a need, I assume there's something causing the necessity.7 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Well this is awkward...I'm most of the 12th page...
It's amazing how much you managed to say with all those cookies in your mouth!
He's got diet soda to wash them down with!
No. Only milk with cookies.
People who willingly drink pop with cake or cookies are monsters.8 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Well this is awkward...I'm most of the 12th page...
It's amazing how much you managed to say with all those cookies in your mouth!
He's got diet soda to wash them down with!
No. Only milk with cookies.
People who willingly drink pop with cake or cookies are monsters.
Good thing I don't drink pop. Only soda.
(But you're right. Milk - and not that low fat stuff either.)3 -
JohnnytotheB wrote: »Perhaps you already know that the Coca-Cola Co. has committed atrocious ground-water polluting in other countries, along with creating water shortages. You probably know as well that the company is turning providing the mass population with toxic beverage choices.
You say that as if Coca-Cola is the only big corp with questionable business practices.- Nestlé pulled water of a town that was experiencing a drought. On expired permits. The CEO also thinks "Access to water should not be a public right".
- Chiquita asked the Colombian military to stop his employees from going on strike and the workers ended up being shot.
- Even organic, non-GMO brands kick people out of their homes in 3rd world countries (mostly South America) so as to expand their harvesting areas due to demand.
And that's just a few examples I read about recently. If you are looking for ethical consumption in capitalism, you are gonna have a hard time, pal.
5 - Nestlé pulled water of a town that was experiencing a drought. On expired permits. The CEO also thinks "Access to water should not be a public right".
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However, stopping using a product on ethical grounds about the companies methods is a perfectly reasonable decision.
I remember being part of the Nestles boycott years ago in response to their unethical promotion of infant formula in 3rd world countries.
That wasn't saying anything about the qualities or otherwise of the actual products though.
So if someone is against consuming products made by Coca Cola on ethical grounds, that is fair enough.
Separate issue to being against the product because it is poisonous toxins or other perceived quality of the product itself.7
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