NO MORE CALORIE COUNTING
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psychod787 wrote: »wilson10102018 wrote: »Public exhortation as to avoiding "processed" foods is mostly about virtue signaling. I ignore these statements in the same way as I ignore explanations of "Who is God" and "There is no God" - politely.
Actually, there are some studies, scant as they are, that point to a low reward diet/less energy dense/ less hyper processed, leads to a lowering of bf settling points. Combine that with a high activity level and someone might not have to be as crazy about tracking. Maybe... who knows.
Sure, I suspect that works for many, especially if contrasted with a diet full of so-called hyper-palatable foods, as they tend to be eaten more for taste than hunger and are on average not that satiating for many. They also tend to be eaten in many cases in addition to mealtimes, as extra foods.
I don't think that really has much to do with avoiding "processed" foods as a declared rule, as for many people processed foods (including canned beans, frozen spinach, greek yogurt, dried pasta, smoked salmon, to run through some of those I use often) can actually make having a healthful diet a lot easier without meaning it's packed full of high cal "hyper-palatable" foods (which IMO are actually often less tasty than alternatives, especially if one is not eating them a lot).
So I think both of you can be right.5 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »The freedom from the need to count I find personally empowering.
I often don't count, but find the idea that that's "empowerment" to be odd. But YMMV and all that.
I can see why someone may find it empowering and it’s not odd at all. Imagine finally learning what works for you in order to lose weight and maintaining without having to micromanage or depending on anything but just being mindful after years of bad habits and not really knowing what you’re doing. I think empowering is a good word for that.12 -
sweetangelkitten wrote: »Not me. I gained a lot of weight eating wholesome foods and eating when I was hungry.
There are others who are basically doing what you are doing so you are not alone.
Whatever your goals are I wish you the best of luck.
Thank you! I can't seem to find anyone on here who isn't counting calories sadly...
Not to be snippy, but to me this is a calorie counting site, I wouldn't be on here if I didn't need to count calories....12 -
sweetangelkitten wrote: »Not me. I gained a lot of weight eating wholesome foods and eating when I was hungry.
There are others who are basically doing what you are doing so you are not alone.
Whatever your goals are I wish you the best of luck.
Thank you! I can't seem to find anyone on here who isn't counting calories sadly...
Not to be snippy, but to me this is a calorie counting site, I wouldn't be on here if I didn't need to count calories....
To others this is a place to get advice for fitness or motivation, to join in on challenges ect.9 -
I log M thru F only. Weekends can't be bothered.5
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GaleHawkins wrote: »The freedom from the need to count I find personally empowering.
I often don't count, but find the idea that that's "empowerment" to be odd. But YMMV and all that.
I can see why someone may find it empowering and it’s not odd at all. Imagine finally learning what works for you in order to lose weight and maintaining without having to micromanage or depending on anything but just being mindful after years of bad habits and not really knowing what you’re doing. I think empowering is a good word for that.
I'm pretty sure the poster in question never actually counted. That's one reason why I find it odd. Personally, I never thought I had to count (I know how to lose weight just fine without counting, for me), it was something I thought might be an enjoyable way to lose (I was struggling with motivation and found that just as creating a workout schedule and logging workouts often motivates me to be more consistent with my workouts, that logging food was a fun approach for me). I mostly don't count at maintenance, unless I'm experimenting with a new way of eating or just think it would help me be more mindful for a while, and I do it at Cron (which is more micromanaging than MFP, since you can see so many nutrients so much better).
But for me, if one must use the rather abused word "empowering," what would seem empowering is feeling in control of one's dietary choices and weight. Not counting or not.10 -
I'm with you. And my weight has only increased by 5kg in an entire year (because I actually wanted to) and now is remaining steady!
I only eat twice a day though (max) and fast quite often. That might be why it's OK.1 -
I am also with you. I also don't regularly log foods or count calories. I shifted the way I was eating and lost 39 pounds since August to be a healthy 130ish (5 ft 5in) female which I have maintained since February. I am eating wholesome foods. I focus on lots of veggies/fruit, no saturated fat (only eat poultry and fish, no cheese, no butter etc. but do use olive oil), almost no alcohol, almost no desserts but happily eat 3 fruits a day. I eat a lot of food each day (3 meals and at least 2 healthy snacks). I try to get a good 8 hours of sleep each night and drink lots of water to stay hydrated and exercise regularly. And for special occasions, I eat dessert or have a glass of wine and enjoy it. I feel great and the weight came off easily and has stayed off the last 3 months. I do weigh myself every few days just as a check. Mostly I try to choose food that is both healthy and that I enjoy.
I have occasionally logged foods for a day, out of curiosity to see what my caloric intake was and also to see if I was meeting daily requirements for protein, fiber, etc.
I appreciate that logging works for lots of people on this site. I also appreciate the inspiration of people's stories on this site. I respect everyone's approaches. We all share the desire to be a healthy weight and to maintain it. It is ok that we approach this goal differently.8 -
I can’t understand why some people think calorie counting is such a chore.
Once the majority of my foods are entered, logging takes less than 60 seconds of my entire day.
Couldn’t be simpler.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »The freedom from the need to count I find personally empowering.
I often don't count, but find the idea that that's "empowerment" to be odd. But YMMV and all that.
I can see why someone may find it empowering and it’s not odd at all. Imagine finally learning what works for you in order to lose weight and maintaining without having to micromanage or depending on anything but just being mindful after years of bad habits and not really knowing what you’re doing. I think empowering is a good word for that.
I'm pretty sure the poster in question never actually counted. That's one reason why I find it odd. Personally, I never thought I had to count (I know how to lose weight just fine without counting, for me), it was something I thought might be an enjoyable way to lose (I was struggling with motivation and found that just as creating a workout schedule and logging workouts often motivates me to be more consistent with my workouts, that logging food was a fun approach for me). I mostly don't count at maintenance, unless I'm experimenting with a new way of eating or just think it would help me be more mindful for a while, and I do it at Cron (which is more micromanaging than MFP, since you can see so many nutrients so much better).
But for me, if one must use the rather abused word "empowering," what would seem empowering is feeling in control of one's dietary choices and weight. Not counting or not.
Lol. Ok14 -
I like counting. Fun to compare a lot of pointless crap I used to fill up on with stuff I really like.3
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GaleHawkins wrote: »The freedom from the need to count I find personally empowering.
I often don't count, but find the idea that that's "empowerment" to be odd. But YMMV and all that.
I can see why someone may find it empowering and it’s not odd at all. Imagine finally learning what works for you in order to lose weight and maintaining without having to micromanage or depending on anything but just being mindful after years of bad habits and not really knowing what you’re doing. I think empowering is a good word for that.
I'm pretty sure the poster in question never actually counted. That's one reason why I find it odd. Personally, I never thought I had to count (I know how to lose weight just fine without counting, for me), it was something I thought might be an enjoyable way to lose (I was struggling with motivation and found that just as creating a workout schedule and logging workouts often motivates me to be more consistent with my workouts, that logging food was a fun approach for me). I mostly don't count at maintenance, unless I'm experimenting with a new way of eating or just think it would help me be more mindful for a while, and I do it at Cron (which is more micromanaging than MFP, since you can see so many nutrients so much better).
But for me, if one must use the rather abused word "empowering," what would seem empowering is feeling in control of one's dietary choices and weight. Not counting or not.
Lol. Ok
Gosh, I must be more naturally funny than I knew, to make you actually laugh out loud! I feel very proud and empowered.24 -
sweetangelkitten wrote: »Not me. I gained a lot of weight eating wholesome foods and eating when I was hungry.
There are others who are basically doing what you are doing so you are not alone.
Whatever your goals are I wish you the best of luck.
Thank you! I can't seem to find anyone on here who isn't counting calories sadly...
This is a calorie counting app and website... 🤭
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yeah, maybe you are right, be yourself and have a healthy and happy life.4
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estherdragonbat wrote: »sweetangelkitten wrote: »Best of luck in finding what works best for you.
unfortunately for me, eating "healthy" without calorie counting is why i was obese most of my life. even after loosing 100lbs twice. I'm a victim of my own portion creep. even in maintenance this time around i should do check ins with the scale and diary every few weeks even if i don't do so daily.sweetangelkitten wrote: »spinnerdell wrote: »Eating wholesome food when I was hungry led to a 70 pound weight gain over the years. Counting calories allowed me to lose that weight and maintain the loss. Wishing you a better outcome with your eating plan.
Why does this lead so many people to weight gain? We weren't counting calories a couple hundred years ago or even a hundred years ago... Seems unnatural to be measuring and counting, we should eat when we are hungry >,<
a couple of hundred years ago our access to food and what foods as well as our actiivty level was VASTLY different. you can't really compare the two.
Easy, don't eat the processed food
You mean cooked/dried/smoked/pickled/fermented/jellied? Because we've been processing food ever since someone got the idea of putting a piece of raw meat (or an apple, for all we know) into the fire and noticing how much better it tasted that way.
Now I'm imagining roasting a slice of apple on a coat hanger/stick over a camp fire.
Delicious, I assure you.3 -
Not to be snippy, but to me this is a calorie counting site, I wouldn't be on here if I didn't need to count calories....
I don't count calories because I have high anxiety when it comes to doing so, but I still love the community. Right now though, my therapist wants me to get over my fear and anxiety when it comes to food in general. This site though is full of wonderful information and ideas when it comes to food and health in general.
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I have lost 30+ lbs this year. Have only counted calories in the last two weeks out of shear curiosity. However I have counted for years prior. So I have a very good idea of what I am taking in. I do think people starting out they should and they need a food scale.1
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sweetangelkitten wrote: »Not me. I gained a lot of weight eating wholesome foods and eating when I was hungry.
There are others who are basically doing what you are doing so you are not alone.
Whatever your goals are I wish you the best of luck.
Thank you! I can't seem to find anyone on here who isn't counting calories sadly...
Not to be snippy, but to me this is a calorie counting site, I wouldn't be on here if I didn't need to count calories....
MFP isn't just a calorie counting site though. There's lots of us who use the site for the forums, for the fitness aspect of it, to track macros etc. I don't track calories on MFP but I've been using the forums on and off for years now, most of those while in maintenance.4 -
Curious as to how OP is getting on, on her eating all of the wholesome foods mission, no sign of her since.5
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sweetangelkitten wrote: »Yep, that's right! I'm done counting calories and tracking everything I eat! I'm eating wholesome foods and eating when I am hungry. Doing what feels natural! Anyone else here with me on this?
Very good! I never count calories since am very active. I only watch my sodium and sugar in take.13
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