Yup. Hit Scream Weight.
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I'm not offering excuses.. but perhaps 125 was too low of a weight for you. Many of us reach a "goal weight" that isn't sustainable and being 10 pounds heavier is perhaps more realistic. I bet you looked pretty good at 135.
So, maybe you're just 15 pounds over what should have been your goal weight 135. And?..that's not that big of a deal.. you can get that off.6 -
Thanks @elisa123gal either 125 or 135 (or anywhere in between) is a much better alternative than 220 where I started, so I’m hanging in there! Have a great weekend.13
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LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »midlomel1971 wrote: »It I hit 150 I'd also scream, but my scream would be from happiness. That's my current goal weight. I'm 5'8". I didn't realize how fat that is still considered.
There's height to consider. IIRC, OP is less tall than you.
You'd be surprised how few people take that into consideration.
In high school I weighed the same as my best friend. I was 5'10" and she was 5'1". So at 150, I was at a good and healthy weight, and she was significantly overweight. But somehow in the "fat talk" among friends, everyone talked about *me* like I was just as fat, because I weighed SO MUCH and wore a size 13, which was apparently "so huge."
What I wouldn't give to be back at my "OMG, you're so FAT" 150 pounds....
Its ridiculous that anyone would declare you fat when you clearly weren't.... hoping you realised that back then and didn't listen to such rubbish .... I would have thought it would be common sense to realise that 150lb looks different on everyone.
Nope: I was a teenager, I was "bigger" than any of my friends, and I bought it hook, line, and sinker.
This is one reason I get ticked off at the whole "well, if we tell people they're fat, we're helping them" argument. Because it doesn't.
(Seriously: "Plus size" started at size 12/13 back then. I almost had to get a prom dress from the Mother of the Bride section because no prom dresses went above a 12 and I was up to a 13/14 - at a perfect weight and "normal" BMI. "not being able to find nice clothes" was also not "inspriational."
This was me too! I am just under 6 ft and I was naturally about 135 lbs in high school, but because I was taller I wore bigger sizes than my also slender friends who were much shorter. I felt ginormous in comparison and it led to an eating disorder (my lowest was 107, which at 6 ft was scary).
I'm 152-154 now which I feel good at. Lots more muscle now too-even a hint of abs! Yet clothes shopping is still annoying. I was the largest size jeans they offered in H&M (16), which is just ridiculous. Their sizing is so weird. Can't imagine how frustrating that must be for people bigger than me.
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staticsplit wrote: »LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »midlomel1971 wrote: »It I hit 150 I'd also scream, but my scream would be from happiness. That's my current goal weight. I'm 5'8". I didn't realize how fat that is still considered.
There's height to consider. IIRC, OP is less tall than you.
You'd be surprised how few people take that into consideration.
In high school I weighed the same as my best friend. I was 5'10" and she was 5'1". So at 150, I was at a good and healthy weight, and she was significantly overweight. But somehow in the "fat talk" among friends, everyone talked about *me* like I was just as fat, because I weighed SO MUCH and wore a size 13, which was apparently "so huge."
What I wouldn't give to be back at my "OMG, you're so FAT" 150 pounds....
Its ridiculous that anyone would declare you fat when you clearly weren't.... hoping you realised that back then and didn't listen to such rubbish .... I would have thought it would be common sense to realise that 150lb looks different on everyone.
Nope: I was a teenager, I was "bigger" than any of my friends, and I bought it hook, line, and sinker.
This is one reason I get ticked off at the whole "well, if we tell people they're fat, we're helping them" argument. Because it doesn't.
(Seriously: "Plus size" started at size 12/13 back then. I almost had to get a prom dress from the Mother of the Bride section because no prom dresses went above a 12 and I was up to a 13/14 - at a perfect weight and "normal" BMI. "not being able to find nice clothes" was also not "inspriational."
This was me too! I am just under 6 ft and I was naturally about 135 lbs in high school, but because I was taller I wore bigger sizes than my also slender friends who were much shorter. I felt ginormous in comparison and it led to an eating disorder (my lowest was 107, which at 6 ft was scary).
I'm 152-154 now which I feel good at. Lots more muscle now too-even a hint of abs! Yet clothes shopping is still annoying. I was the largest size jeans they offered in H&M (16), which is just ridiculous. Their sizing is so weird. Can't imagine how frustrating that must be for people bigger than me.
@staticsplit
I remember losing 70lbs (5’9” 150-155lbs) in the past & being so bummed out I couldn’t find pants in regular stores. I, for one, am thrilled with vanity sizing now
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About the same as me sounds like last Aug I was down to 127. Id worked hard to get down to that. Then I fell off and got to 145 in no time. Im trying hard to get back into a routine. I’ll be 40 next month too. Im so mad at myself for slipping. Stay focused! Ive got some pants I keep looking at...I want back in them! Good luck!!4
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Cheers @JennyHolman 127 is my favorite number!1
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I just wanted to say, as a serial yo-yoer, this post is super inspirational. I am super committed to keeping my weight off this time and you sharing this is very helpful, so thankyou.10
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This is the first time I gained some weight back since loosing it, I do hope it'll be the last. I was maintaining for almost a year & it wasn't hard since i ate 1750 cal/day but now mfp says i need to eat 1220 in order to lose 1 lb/wk so I'm back at it3
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Me too. Sailed past my scream weight of 129 and am now 135 and am kicking myself (a little) and logging again. Only took me two months to gain 7 pounds. Hate that.14
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arussell134 wrote: »On Monday I was at 144. I know that some people are thinking gee, that’s normal or even good for someone 5’7” and 40, but understand when you’ve experienced a weight closer to your ideal, you don’t want to stray from that. I’m starting to have clothes fit tighter and I can’t hit some of the running times I easily did 3 years ago. A huge motivation for me is my running goals.
This speaks to me. I've been in maintenance for two years and even just an extra 3lbs that sticks around sets the alarm bells off. When you've been your own ideal weight you also notice where those pounds are and it doesn't feel great. Around a healthy weight, cutting is no fun and always eventually interferes with my fitness goals in terms of endurance and available energy.12 -
Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »All I can say, OP, don't be so quick giving people advice and mocking other peoples method of losing when your's obviously is not even working. So much of bulk eating.
Have you ever thought that the experiences @nowine4me has, both success and failure, is what makes her so worthy of helping others.
(Including how to eat in bulk with lower calories so one can still feel satiated)
She has walked the walk and is continuously refining and adapting as life demands, passing on her honest experience and advice.
That to me is success.
( BTW, I have never ever heard her mock anyone, and I have been here a very long time.)
Sorry for white knighting you nowine4me, I was just irked.
Cheers, h.
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Thank you @middlehaitch. The very reason I love MFP is watching my experienced peers give and accept advice over years and years and years. I vividly recall being an MFP freshman back in 2012, and not being open to many ideas shared here.
Fast forward — many successes and failures later, I’ve more or less figured out what works for me. Not to say I always execute, but the skills and tools are there when I choose to use them.
You and many, many others take your time and wisdom and share with others. Sometimes it’s easy to hear, sometimes it’s not. Collectively I like to think that we can help others down the path to maintenance. I suspect it will be a rocky road for me, but I will always lean in times of need.23 -
One thing I didn't realize about my scream weight is that once I got back on track, the weight was going to come off much slower than when I first lost weight. Five years ago, I had much more to lose. Now, I only have "that last 10 pounds," so getting motivated and having that initial excitement to do it again was squashed by the fact that I am losing at a much, much slower rate. Disheartening, but true. Of course, I reached the scream weight slowly-it crept up slow enough for me to ignore it.
Reading people's posts about taking 9 months to lose 15 pounds is encouraging though. I'm trying to sort of forget about the scale, and just focus on CICO and fitness goals. But blargh... this is taking forever.8 -
I totally agree with all of the above. And, @nowine4me, you have been one of those experienced people that has been helpful to others. I don't post often, or reply often, but I do read forums almost daily, and I have found this kindness to be very true of you. Struggling is human, succeeding is great, but it's always, always a journey and never "lost and done". Thanks to you, @middlehaitch, and many other long-timers for your advice and support. I'm almost 5 years into maintenance and love to hear from other "humans" like me!Thank you @middlehaitch. The very reason I love MFP is watching my experienced peers give and accept advice over years and years and years. I vividly recall being an MFP freshman back in 2012, and not being open to many ideas shared here.
Fast forward — many successes and failures later, I’ve more or less figured out what works for me. Not to say I always execute, but the skills and tools are there when I choose to use them.
You and many, many others take your time and wisdom and share with others. Sometimes it’s easy to hear, sometimes it’s not. Collectively I like to think that we can help others down the path to maintenance. I suspect it will be a rocky road for me, but I will always lean in times of need.9 -
MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »staticsplit wrote: »LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »midlomel1971 wrote: »It I hit 150 I'd also scream, but my scream would be from happiness. That's my current goal weight. I'm 5'8". I didn't realize how fat that is still considered.
There's height to consider. IIRC, OP is less tall than you.
You'd be surprised how few people take that into consideration.
In high school I weighed the same as my best friend. I was 5'10" and she was 5'1". So at 150, I was at a good and healthy weight, and she was significantly overweight. But somehow in the "fat talk" among friends, everyone talked about *me* like I was just as fat, because I weighed SO MUCH and wore a size 13, which was apparently "so huge."
What I wouldn't give to be back at my "OMG, you're so FAT" 150 pounds....
Its ridiculous that anyone would declare you fat when you clearly weren't.... hoping you realised that back then and didn't listen to such rubbish .... I would have thought it would be common sense to realise that 150lb looks different on everyone.
Nope: I was a teenager, I was "bigger" than any of my friends, and I bought it hook, line, and sinker.
This is one reason I get ticked off at the whole "well, if we tell people they're fat, we're helping them" argument. Because it doesn't.
(Seriously: "Plus size" started at size 12/13 back then. I almost had to get a prom dress from the Mother of the Bride section because no prom dresses went above a 12 and I was up to a 13/14 - at a perfect weight and "normal" BMI. "not being able to find nice clothes" was also not "inspriational."
This was me too! I am just under 6 ft and I was naturally about 135 lbs in high school, but because I was taller I wore bigger sizes than my also slender friends who were much shorter. I felt ginormous in comparison and it led to an eating disorder (my lowest was 107, which at 6 ft was scary).
I'm 152-154 now which I feel good at. Lots more muscle now too-even a hint of abs! Yet clothes shopping is still annoying. I was the largest size jeans they offered in H&M (16), which is just ridiculous. Their sizing is so weird. Can't imagine how frustrating that must be for people bigger than me.
@staticsplit
I remember losing 70lbs (5’9” 150-155lbs) in the past & being so bummed out I couldn’t find pants in regular stores. I, for one, am thrilled with vanity sizing now
I went to H&M yesterday and they didn't have any size 14s or 16s in store hardly (UK sizes), and none in the style I actually wanted. I rifled through them all getting progressively more enraged. Considering they also run mega small, it's just so ridiculous that most people shopping at the store probably can't fit into any of the trousers?! I ended up going to New Look and finding some immediately (and I was a 12 there).2 -
So glad I found this thread! My SW in Jan 18 was 157, got to GW of 132 in July 18 then spent the next few months putting it back on. On Jan 1st this year was back at 150 and v annoyed at myself. Just about got to 140 in April but have been really struggling with binging and was nearly 145 again this morning - which is not at all surprising as I've binged 3 or 4 times a week for the last month or so.9
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Hey @teranga79 we’re neck-in-neck. I’m bouncing at 144-145 and I was in the 125-132 range last summer too. And annoyed and struggle with binging. We’re practically related!10
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@nowine4me yup!! Fell off the wagon again yesterday - back to three binge days in a row now. Arrgh!! Off for a serious chat with myself.4
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@nowine4me and @teranga79, and any others with binging troubles, here's my take on things, and what helps me when I am in one of those states: I fundamentally believe that sugar and foods that convert to sugar (simple carbs, processed stuff) are an addiction for some. I know that this is controversial in the literature, etc., but what helps me is to believe this, and to also believe what I have read somewhere: IF sugar, etc. is addictive, and IF you give in to that addiction, i.e., binges, the binging comes from wanting/craving more of something to which your body is addicted. However, what works for me then, is knowing that in 3 days, I will have stopped the cravings ... that's 3 days without anything resembling what I crave. So the first day is definitely white knuckling it, also sorta like that the second day, by the third, much better. But that 3 day belief really helps me get out of the binge. I know this won't work for everyone, and I HOPE this doesn't get into a rant about "show me the research/literature" from anyone, because all I am doing is hoping that what helps me, helps you, scientific or not.11
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If it makes anyone feel better, I lost a couple lbs. Then got attacked by TOM, gained it back (water), and it won't leave!
Doing ALL the "supposed to"s and frickin' hungry over here and the scale is still being the turdiest turd! 
Frustration is too mild a word! Just got to wait it out. Bleh. 3 -
@nowine4me and @teranga79, and any others with binging troubles, here's my take on things, and what helps me when I am in one of those states: I fundamentally believe that sugar and foods that convert to sugar (simple carbs, processed stuff) are an addiction for some. I know that this is controversial in the literature, etc., but what helps me is to believe this, and to also believe what I have read somewhere: IF sugar, etc. is addictive, and IF you give in to that addiction, i.e., binges, the binging comes from wanting/craving more of something to which your body is addicted. However, what works for me then, is knowing that in 3 days, I will have stopped the cravings ... that's 3 days without anything resembling what I crave. So the first day is definitely white knuckling it, also sorta like that the second day, by the third, much better. But that 3 day belief really helps me get out of the binge. I know this won't work for everyone, and I HOPE this doesn't get into a rant about "show me the research/literature" from anyone, because all I am doing is hoping that what helps me, helps you, scientific or not.
I think there's definitely something in this. Again, am talking from my own experience here and not any sort of scientific knowledge. I don't know what the science does/doesn't say. What I do know (believe me, I KNOW this) is that the more cake, biscuits, chocolate, processed bread etc I eat, the more I want. And it's not 'want' in the sense of 'I fancy a slice of cake' kind of way, it's 'want' in the sense of 'I am thinking about eating literally every waking second, I can't focus on anything else, all I want to do is hide in a room and eat until I pass out'. When I do manage a day or so without so much processed food/cake/biscuits, I definitely find that the urge recedes somewhat.
So in some ways the way forward is pretty obvious - but I just really hate the idea of never being able to eat this stuff again. I want to be able to enjoy everything in moderation, but that just doesn't seem to be an option right now.
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Binging for me seems to be about sugar or salt. But sugar is major. I think it is addictive..to my brain anyway. Staying away from it for a few days definitely makes me crave it less.2
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@jrwms714 it’s great that you identified what works. My struggle isn’t really food-specific. If I’m bored, tired or stressed, I eat. I’ve taken MANY steps that have drastically improved sleep. When bored, I try to read, walk and have ordered some coloring supplies. Stress-eating is the next to tackle.4
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@nowine4me, you have it exactly: it's what works for each of us and it probably is not the same thing! Sounds like you, also, have identified the issue and find ways to distract yourself from the binging. Coloring supplies are such a great idea for this ... keeps your hands busy and alleviates the stress, too. I ordered these for a friend who lost her child to cancer. Of course, it doesn't take away the pain, but she is thrilled with them and says they are really helping. ... hope they do the same for you, too.2
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SummerSkier wrote: »So this can be turned into a positive discussion for us maintainers I think. What are the traps we fall into and how do we avoid them? Would be interesting to hear from OP what happened after being successful so long. I do see a lot of "MFP" returnees who are successful and then 3-5 yrs are back again with the same to lose or more. I know I qualify having lost weight here in 2011/12 successfully and then had to return again in 2017. I did learn that this time I needed to focus on maintaining and what my plan would be from the very start.
Honestly, I just let it creep up on me. I’ve logged and weighed daily. I knew my intake was over maintenance and I knew my weight was increasing. I just ignored it and figured a few pounds was no big deal. Right up until my pants didn’t button and I had to go from a 2 to a 4 to a 6. Which is the biggest size I kept. I wish I could say there was some dramatic reason, but it was really just loosening up the reins and putting my head in the sand for 6 months.
Thanks for sharing- very comforting to hear others' stories on this topic. I have been in very similar shoes (or pants!). After I got back down to my goal weight range, I got rid of all pants that were too big. At first I kept one size up, but found it was just way too easy for me to let myself overindulge for a week and reach for those. Are you going to keep the larger sizes?0 -
@Copper_Boom I just had to buy all new shorts for my upcoming vacation. I’ll hope this is the largest size and I can work my way back down at some point.3
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I have a really strange closet in my house. I put clothes in there and 6 months later when I go to put them on they seem to have shrunk!
Wonder if I should go in there for a few months? 😆
Been there, done that, grew out of the T shirt [1]
[1] The dryer shrank it along with the rest of my clothes. That's my story and I am sticking to it
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Quick check in from me. Facing a v stressful day and am already leaning towards massive over-eating as a coping mechanism. Am hoping that posting here will be a little shot of accountability. My goal is to post again at the end of the day having got through the stress without a binge.
Hope everyone had a good weekend and are feeling calm and ready for the week ahead.9 -
Quick check in from me. Facing a v stressful day and am already leaning towards massive over-eating as a coping mechanism. Am hoping that posting here will be a little shot of accountability. My goal is to post again at the end of the day having got through the stress without a binge.
Hope everyone had a good weekend and are feeling calm and ready for the week ahead.
Thinking of you! Drink lots of water and take some slow deep breaths. Today will be okay!
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Had a good few days until yesterday. Made a Greek salad minus feta and olives added in Parmesan to take to a covered dish church dinner. Started out with oatmeal for breakfast instead of my protein... crazy, but I’m hungrier at lunch after having plain regular oatmeal. A real argument for carbs making me want more. Sundays are harder because my routine is different and we eat lunch out. I tried not to splurge but did at home last night.. so aggravating when I’m doing so much better!2
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