I'm Bulletproof
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I think it is misleading to say that you are skipping breakfast while consuming 400 calories first thing in the morning.17
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As I read the OP’s post from 5 years ago, I found myself wondering what ahe eats when she is not at home and most of her very specialized food options are not available.4
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GaleHawkins wrote: »I tried the bullet proof thing but all of our butter in the frig had picked up a nasty taste over the years so I just went back to using unrefrigerated cold pressed coconut oil and 5 years later I am still doing the same.
If all of the butter in your frig has been there for years, you might want to consider tossing it.11 -
I'm glad that it's working for you, though I suspect your weight loss is attributable more to your caloric intake than to the foods that you're getting.
Just be careful!
Your brain is the largest consumer of glucose in your body, and it preferentially uses sugar over any other nutrient (not just for energy production, but as the pieces used to make neurotransmitters). The average brain consumes about 120g of glucose a day.
Recent studies in mice have found that high-fat diets are associated with increased brain cell stress in as few as 3 days.
We need fats in our diets, too, of course - but everything in balance! Sugar/carbohydrates are plentiful in naturally healthful foods (such as nuts, seeds, leafy greens, produce, etc.) and we have evolved to survive on those things.3 -
As I read the OP’s post from 5 years ago, I found myself wondering what ahe eats when she is not at home and most of her very specialized food options are not available.
While I am 50 from zero carbs this is the option that has been working for me for years. My breakfast is mostly plant based but some eggs and dairy and eaten at home. After 5 years I can do low carb high fat ok on the road since it is an option with the fast food businesses.
zerocarbhealth.com/index.php/2017/06/24/zero-carb-ordering-from-mcdonalds/#more-1000
Unless the person on the cash register knows what I always order I start by saying I would like to order from the a la carte menu. As noted in the article the drive thru is NOT a good place to screw with the minds of staff. For some reason to order at 11 pm a 1/4 pound patty they need to first go to Breakfast button to access the a la carte menu.5 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »I tried the bullet proof thing but all of our butter in the frig had picked up a nasty taste over the years so I just went back to using unrefrigerated cold pressed coconut oil and 5 years later I am still doing the same.
If all of the butter in your frig has been there for years, you might want to consider tossing it.
Actually I have used fresh butter from some high end restaurants in very hot coffee so it melted well but it did not reach out a really grab me like the taste of unrefined coconut oil. McD has real butter but there I just go with half and half and let them add it from bulk to save them a few cents. Later on in the day when at the house I do not add 400 calories from coconut oil but about half that much.7 -
I realize this is an older post but it is dishartening to see so many take offense to her story on what works for her. I read some feedback ripping her apart for " torturing" herself, all these negative reactions.
I am in complete agreement with what she is doing. The bottom line is no plan, method works for everyone. I do not eat out hardly ever because I do not enjoy it. I eat what I want, which happens to be nothing most MFP pepold seem to glorify ( anything as long as in calorie range) I will say if and when I do want to eat out of my norm, the calories are what i use. It is liberating to know how calorie counting works, however it is way more so not even wanting to eat anything that does not optimize my wellbeing.
Nobody was talking offense to it anymore, because the thread had gone over 5 years without anyone commenting on it. Now that it's been bumped to the top again by you commenting on it, a whole new generation of people will be here to take offense at it.13 -
I realize this is an older post but it is dishartening to see so many take offense to her story on what works for her. I read some feedback ripping her apart for " torturing" herself, all these negative reactions.
I am in complete agreement with what she is doing. The bottom line is no plan, method works for everyone. I do not eat out hardly ever because I do not enjoy it. I eat what I want, which happens to be nothing most MFP pepold seem to glorify ( anything as long as in calorie range) I will say if and when I do want to eat out of my norm, the calories are what i use. It is liberating to know how calorie counting works, however it is way more so not even wanting to eat anything that does not optimize my wellbeing.
Nobody was talking offense to it anymore, because the thread had gone over 5 years without anyone commenting on it. Now that it's been bumped to the top again by you commenting on it, a whole new generation of people will be here to take offense at it.
And there are a whole lot more 5 years later that will agree as the world is waking up to the types of calories being as important as the number of calories in our diets as old eating myths bite the dust more and more as diet science becomes better understood like the gut microbiome research.17 -
Or you can just eat whatever you want while watching your calorie intake and lose 2 lbs a weeks, aka the same amount you lost.
But hey, whatever works.
Was just about to say- I ate nothing but junk the past two weeks and somehow still managed to lose the same amount of weight and inches as the op. Doesn't matter what you eat as long as it fits your calories,you will lose weight op. No need for all the...I don't even know what to call it. You do you though,glad it works for you.4 -
So, I realize that most posts are going to be extremely negative, because, for some reason, they always are. Regardless, I want to share MY method of successful fat loss with you.
To start off, I had been vegan/ highly raw vegan for two years because my doctor told me I had high cholesterol (which, as it turns out, was a good thing - listen to or read: http://www.bulletproofexec.com/69-clearing-up-cholesterol-with-jimmy-moore/). I did a lot of research recently on the myths of cholesterol and realized that it's one of the most heart-protective substances in our bodies.
I was tired, weak, and I was gaining weight. Over the course of 2 years, I gained about 20lbs. I was working out for an hour a day, 5 days a week. I was doing cardio and strength training. Being insulin resistant and taking in tons of carbs (lots of fruit), I was sending my body into fat-storing mode every single day.
I did the Master Cleanse for 36 hours (it was awful so I quit). At the end of my "cleansing" period, I completely turned my "diet" upside down. I put diet in quotations because it's not really a diet, it's just a style of eating. I'm not fad-dieting, I'm eating this way for life. I just happen to be shedding inches left and right.
I cut out all grains and flipped the food pyramid upside down, basically.
The biggest eye popper: 50% of calories in my diet come from high quality fats (organic, unrefined coconut oil, organic raw coconut butter, organic grass-fed butter, organic avocados, and organic, cold pressed extra virgin olive oil). My goal is to eat fat to burn fat.
Every morning, I drink 2 cups of coffee blended with 2 tbsp of grass-fed butter and 2 tbsp MCT oil (Now Foods brand). That sounds repulsive to any coffee snob, being one myself, but I assure you, it's delicious. I used to always drink my coffee black and I will never go back. I don't eat breakfast in the morning because it takes my body out of the state of ketosis which is responsible for burning fat as energy. It's a form of intermittent fasting, only better, because I consume fat with no carbs during that time. My brain power is also boosted throughout the day because of the combination of fat+caffeine. I used to force feed myself a carbohydrate filled breakfast every morning because I was raised to think that it was vital for energy and brain power. Ever since I stopped, I am able to see that that "fact" was actually a presupposition. By skipping breakfast, I am not starving myself, I am providing my body with vital energy through the habitual drink I already consumed (and would never be able to forsake).
Around noon-2pm, I eat protein, fat, and minimal carbs. Usually, my meal consists of half of an avocado, 2 soft boiled, pastured+fertile eggs, and a serving or two of steamed veggies. A couple of hours later, I'll have a hand full of presoaked nuts and some steamed green, coconut oil covered vegetables for snacking. At this point, I'm still ketogenic.
My dinner provides the needed carbohydrates, it consists of steamed (different combinations of) brussels sprouts, cabbage, celery, carrots, sweet potatoes, broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus, spinach. I eat at least 4 servings of vegetables during dinner time. My protein comes from (slow cooked) fat-filled grass-fed beef, wild low mercury fish, bison, or, if available, pastured chicken (with a lot of added fat). Usually, I add in the extra half of the avocado. Right before or right after dinner, I'll have my 1 serving of fruit, usually citrus.
Two days a week, usually back-to-back, I "carb load". I spend the entire afternoon and evening eating high carbohydrate foods instead of just dinner time. I use these two days to refill my glycogen stores. These days, I feel different. My energy is low quality and my mood is bland.
I have done this for 2 weeks and I have already lost a total of 4 inches and 4 lbs. I work out 3 times a week for 30 minutes of vigorous exercise, mainly weight training.
I have never felt better than I do right now. I literally feel bulletproof.
Look into it if you feel stuck. Don't look into it if you think it's bs. It's as simple as that.
💪👏👏🙌Personally, I love this.
I USED to rely on counting calories
I am 46 and started at 12 yrs old when I turned into a woman over night. Lol
I do something very similar, in fact its very much like my NEW lifestyle. WHATI eat makes a huge inpact, not JUST calories. Lower carb ( not no carb either!) And funny I WAS vegan and had the same feeling, I did not gain as much but composition distribution.
I have coffee, collagen, avocado, hemp oil in a.m. I will have any of the following during day- leafy greens, fish, shiritaki, olives, nuts, vegan cheese, plant protein powder. Dinner I have cruciferous veggies and tofu or protein powder. I do not do dairy, eggs, npoultry or meat but do fish and collagen. Im going to keep this and if I go to next level with non vegan it would be bison or bone broth.
I was eating tons of bananas, oats or yams, too many vegetables that added extra carbs and sugar and had low , no fat diet. I also have days with a bit more carbs and then do low fat. I have found this is working to make me feel a lot better. I do measyre, weigh and count everything and always have. Just changing WHAT Ieat has made an impact.
Im very into nutrition, biblical foods, longevity and optimal living, feeling great. I can not enjoy something that is purely emply calories or not helping my goals. To me a splurge would be a copius amount of nut butter or fish. I view the body as a temple and do my best to live this way.
" High Five" to you!
I am very confused by the bolded how you refer to "biblical foods". What do you mean by that? It certainly can't be foods they ate during biblical times and in the bible, because your diet seems pretty much the antitheses of that. During biblical times, they ate first and foremost a ton of bread (which is where give us this day our daily bread comes from) as well as some meat and dairy. About the only thing that really matches up is fish. They were not eating hemp oil and nut butter and collagen and vegan cheese. So I'm not judging, but honestly don't understand how you consider your diet to be "biblical foods".
Additionally, if you are talking about health/low environmental impact, that is something I can understand, and I will trust that the things you eat hit that definition, but I don't understand then cutting out fruits and whole grains. Both are some of the most nutritious foods known to man. Fruits have tons of vitamins and different compounds for optimal health, and whole grain intake has been found as the strongest correlation to prevention of diet based cancer. Blue zones, such as Japan, where diets are high in refined carbs like white rice, have some of the worlds highest life expectancy. Grains and fruits are also low environmental impact and do not require any animal suffering. So I do not understand how you made your determination.
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Or you can just eat whatever you want while watching your calorie intake and lose 2 lbs a weeks, aka the same amount you lost.
But hey, whatever works.
Was just about to say- I ate nothing but junk the past two weeks and somehow still managed to lose the same amount of weight and inches as the op. Doesn't matter what you eat as long as it fits your calories,you will lose weight op. No need for all the...I don't even know what to call it. You do you though,glad it works for you.
I dont disagree that cc works. I am sharing that, I feel better andmore fullfilled, clean, better digestion, skin, health, emotionally by not eating " anything" but by eating my " happy foods...for me 🙌😁🥑1 -
I don't like or put butter or ghee in coffee either and see all the different points and opinions. I do use protein powder and like the methodology she uses
I don't use protein powder, but have nothing against it. Just pointing out that if someone claims they avoid processed foods and eat protein powder, they have a misunderstanding of what processed means. We don't know what OP does now, as this thread is old and she's not around. (This is why it's usually pretty useless to jump into a discussion had 5 years ago with people not here.)My thinking was mire about how the majority of responses were so against having structure and not eating things many feel are actually good. There is no one answer.
I didn't read all the old responses, but I'm a little skeptical of that.
Personally, I find structure helpful for myself and usually recommend it to anyone struggling and asking for advice. I also believe that most longterm posters here do prioritize things like nutrition and satiety. You and I might (or might not) disagree about what a healthy diet looks like, but I am certainly concerned about and interested in the topic for myself and I think my ideas are consistent with good nutrition science and advice. (I don't consider the bulletproof coffee guy a good source, and that's what I believe OP was pushing.)I work in fitness, supplements and know the trends, fads and have seen people use every way they can to get to be where they want, then most fall back into old habits.
Then you should know the biggest problem is ridiculous and unnecessary advice peddled by diet gurus and fads.I was mainly struck by the similarity in experience going from vegan to low carb. Whats even more impressed upon me is how completely against the high fat plans I was until I started this sever add l months ago.
Another thing is she is not full " keto" which is the rage right now. Keto was designed for medical, short term purposes as an aggressive approach for seisures.... That being said, I practice a Meditteranian style diet, not so much oil as monounsaturated foods. Its just like we are allgoingto a destination but on different paths.
Lets all be supportive rather than defensive or anti. I think its great if ppl can feel good about a jelly doughnut and loose weight. I tried this and felt disgusting, but thats me.
Keto is much more common than a diet for seizures (and as practiced by most quite different from that specific diet which is higher fat and lower protein and carb than most doing keto for weight loss/maintenance or T2D control).
I also eat a mostly Med style diet, although I've gone from lower carb to higher than I was (still mostly around 40% but sometimes as high as 50%), and eat mostly plant-based (usually 100% about 5 days a week) and I feel good doing this (admittedly, I seem to feel good on any reasonable healthy diet when I'm exercising and sleeping decently). I think the importance of macros is often exaggerated, and I've felt fine doing lower fat too (not super low fat, I don't think that's ideal unless one has certain medical conditions and is supervised by a doctor). I am not low fat at all currently, and haven't been for ages. I find fat satisfying as part of a diet, although I think the type of fat is important.
These are my views and reading of current research, I don't insist I feel better than others who eat differently or push them as a superior way everyone else should understand and follow (which is what I think OP was likely doing).
Also, I see no reason why a Med diet or any other cannot include some just for fun foods whether it be cheese (although as noted I'm not eating much of that currently) or olive oil or -- not really that different -- some naan or occasional white pasta or ice cream or even a jelly donut.My vasis also is religious and SPIRITUAL too so its different than many I see post.
Oh? I would consider myself religious and that only affects my eating based on fast days, local/cultural traditions (like eat a paczki (I'm afraid it's a jelly donut) on Shrove Tuesday or often they are offered the whole week before Lent), and of course the idea that I should take good care of my body. But that doesn't mean never eating foods that are more for enjoyment than pure nutrition. I think feasting with family and friends and sharing good food is absolutely consistent with this, and does not require that I not have mashed potatoes and pie with Thanksgiving dinner.
I also will note that people who follow ANY diet insist that they now have energy, skin has cleared up, etc. I've been more and less restrictive and I'd think there was something wrong if I felt horrible just because I had a piece of my delicious homemade pie or if my skin broke out (which it doesn't) -- maybe a reason to think I had an allergy or intolerance or to check if there might be something psychosomatic going on.4 -
I don't like or put butter or ghee in coffee either and see all the different points and opinions. I do use protein powder and like the methodology she uses
I don't use protein powder, but have nothing against it. Just pointing out that if someone claims they avoid processed foods and eat protein powder, they have a misunderstanding of what processed means. We don't know what OP does now, as this thread is old and she's not around. (This is why it's usually pretty useless to jump into a discussion had 5 years ago with people not here.)My thinking was mire about how the majority of responses were so against having structure and not eating things many feel are actually good. There is no one answer.
I didn't read all the old responses, but I'm a little skeptical of that.
Personally, I find structure helpful for myself and usually recommend it to anyone struggling and asking for advice. I also believe that most longterm posters here do prioritize things like nutrition and satiety. You and I might (or might not) disagree about what a healthy diet looks like, but I am certainly concerned about and interested in the topic for myself and I think my ideas are consistent with good nutrition science and advice. (I don't consider the bulletproof coffee guy a good source, and that's what I believe OP was pushing.)I work in fitness, supplements and know the trends, fads and have seen people use every way they can to get to be where they want, then most fall back into old habits.
Then you should know the biggest problem is ridiculous and unnecessary advice peddled by diet gurus and fads.I was mainly struck by the similarity in experience going from vegan to low carb. Whats even more impressed upon me is how completely against the high fat plans I was until I started this sever add l months ago.
Another thing is she is not full " keto" which is the rage right now. Keto was designed for medical, short term purposes as an aggressive approach for seisures.... That being said, I practice a Meditteranian style diet, not so much oil as monounsaturated foods. Its just like we are allgoingto a destination but on different paths.
Lets all be supportive rather than defensive or anti. I think its great if ppl can feel good about a jelly doughnut and loose weight. I tried this and felt disgusting, but thats me.
Keto is much more common than a diet for seizures (and as practiced by most quite different from that specific diet which is higher fat and lower protein and carb than most doing keto for weight loss/maintenance or T2D control).
I also eat a mostly Med style diet, although I've gone from lower carb to higher than I was (still mostly around 40% but sometimes as high as 50%), and eat mostly plant-based (usually 100% about 5 days a week) and I feel good doing this (admittedly, I seem to feel good on any reasonable healthy diet when I'm exercising and sleeping decently). I think the importance of macros is often exaggerated, and I've felt fine doing lower fat too (not super low fat, I don't think that's ideal unless one has certain medical conditions and is supervised by a doctor). I am not low fat at all currently, and haven't been for ages. I find fat satisfying as part of a diet, although I think the type of fat is important.
These are my views and reading of current research, I don't insist I feel better than others who eat differently or push them as a superior way everyone else should understand and follow (which is what I think OP was likely doing).
Also, I see no reason why a Med diet or any other cannot include some just for fun foods whether it be cheese (although as noted I'm not eating much of that currently) or olive oil or -- not really that different -- some naan or occasional white pasta or ice cream or even a jelly donut.My vasis also is religious and SPIRITUAL too so its different than many I see post.
Oh? I would consider myself religious and that only affects my eating based on fast days, local/cultural traditions (like eat a paczki (I'm afraid it's a jelly donut) on Shrove Tuesday or often they are offered the whole week before Lent), and of course the idea that I should take good care of my body. But that doesn't mean never eating foods that are more for enjoyment than pure nutrition. I think feasting with family and friends and sharing good food is absolutely consistent with this, and does not require that I not have mashed potatoes and pie with Thanksgiving dinner.
I also will note that people who follow a better diet than what they were doing (for their body)will be excited and t have energy, skin has cleared up, etc. I've been more and less restrictive and I'd think there was something wrong if I felt horrible just because I had a piece of my delicious homemade pie or if my skin broke out (which it doesn't) -- maybe a reason to think I had an allergy or intolerance or to check if there might be something psychosomatic going on.
On the Bulletproof, I agree it is marketing, I am not 100 on the products at all, and was more fefering to lifestyle (Bulletproof not defending) . Yes keto was and used medicinally. We have a lot of doctors. Surgeons, etc we work with.
I think your post is great and wise. I simply enjoy my nutrition. I know its more than ok to have a " treat". Im not afraid to either. I just have such a passion for whst I am doing, most things honestly do not tempt me.
I also do not have family, kids or significant other or situations that would make me think about it. I have had treats and feel good about them. There are IMO things that are both special and healthy.( I love vegan/ GF raw cheesecake!)
People get results on a plan that gets them away from what is holding them back. I see it all the time too and that is pretty convincing for the plan they are on. If someone change habits for the better and limit calories, trigger foods, etc most likely skin clears, etc.
I did not mention other reasons for my choices; recovery from what are(were) supposed to be a non curable auto immune diseases, severe fungal skin conditions, clinical PTSD and IBS-C, What is working for me now is much different than what I did 5 years ago, or other times in my life. Our bodies change and often times our needs, what works.0 -
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fitnessdiva_ wrote: »Omg why make it so complicated ??? I got a headache from reading that. 💆🏾♀️💆🏾♀️💆🏾♀️
Lol! I pwrsonally have a passion for this but can totally laugh at this
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