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GaleHawkins wrote: »Low carb is not for weight loss but to see if it will help resolve the health issues that lead to obesity initially since obesity does not seem to be a primary disease but a secondary disease due to some.
I think you are putting the cart before the horse...
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GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Low-Carb Diet Benefits People with Metabolic Syndrome Independent of Weight Loss
Jun 24, 2019 by News Staff / Source
sci-news.com/medicine/low-carb-diet-metabolic-syndrome-07315.html
"A new study published in the Journal of Clinical Investigation Insight shows that metabolic syndrome — a cluster of factors that also put people at higher risk of heart disease and stroke — can be rapidly (within 4 weeks) reversed by a low-carb diet in the majority of people even if they don’t lose any weight....."- Study had a whopping 16 participants.
- On LC, 9 of 16 no longer qualified as MetSyn after 4 weeks, after MC 3 of 16 no longer qualified, not exactly enough to consider definitive.
- I would love to see if this experiment were extended out to 6 months, would the results even out? In other words, does the LC diet just get these results faster?
- Considering the typical claims about keto, I found this blurb interesting: "They did not see statistically significant improvements in blood pressure or insulin resistance."
- Dr. Volek founded a company that sells a rather expensive private program that claims to treat and reverse T2D through keto. Just something to keep in mind. https://www.virtahealth.com/about/jeffvolek
I can appreciate that this goes to the argument that benefits of low carb are attributable to weight loss, not the type of diet. This is a small, one off study, but point taken.
Having said that, I doubt it's a good idea to stay obese but eat low carb to avoid some of the risk of Metabolic Syndrome. And if reaching a healthy weight anyway will reverse it regardless of how you eat, I'm not sure what the point is unless you enjoy eating that way. To me, what this study suggests is: if you are going to stay obese, you might be better off eating low carb. I don't think it asserts anything about the best way to lose weight, or the best way to eat if you are a healthy weight. Just my opinion, of course.
Low carb is not for weight loss but to see if it will help resolve the health issues that lead to obesity initially since obesity does not seem to be a primary disease but a secondary disease due to some.
The short n=16 study was only about reducing the known risk factors of heart disease which is a major cause of death in the USA.
Below is some research on the impact of eating protein, fats and carbs on the gut microbiome that may be of interest to some reading on the subject. The quoted text typically is from the start of different section of the research paper that would be best to read fully in interested in the subject matter.
Influence of diet on the gut microbiome and implications for human health
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5385025/
"Protein
The effects of dietary protein on the gut microbiota were first described in 1977."
"Fats
Consumption of high saturated and trans fat diets is thought to increase the risk of cardiovascular disease through upregulation of blood total- and LDL-cholesterol [43, 44]."
"Carbohydrates
Digestible carbohydrates (starch, sugars)
Carbohydrates are possibly the most well studied dietary component for their ability to modify the gut microbiome (studies listed in Table 4)."
"The artificial sweeteners saccharin, sucralose, and aspartame represent another dietary controversy. Artificial sweeteners were originally marketed as a health-conscious, no-calorie food option that could be used to replace natural sugar. Recent evidence from Suez et al. suggests that consumption of all types of artificial sweeteners is actually more likely to induce glucose intolerance than consumption of pure glucose and sucrose. Interestingly, artificial sweeteners are thought to mediate this effect through alteration of gut microbiota." The bold text is my doing for a special person that is struggling with this health risk.
"Besides immunity, gut microorganisms have also been shown to impact host metabolic health. Individuals with metabolic disorders such as obesity and diabetes have been shown to have intestinal dysbiosis in relation to healthy individuals [148, 149]. Further characterization of the link between the gut microbiome and obesity has revealed several bacterial groups that may specifically contribute to the disease." Note: Bolding in this paragraph is to highlight that obesity primarily is a metabolic disorder that can cause obesity as a side effect of a primary health disorder. Truly healthy people or other animals do not become obese. Over eating is not a primary cause of obesity in a medical sense. Calories are units of energy. Macros are what that primarily leads to a positive or negative gut microbiome. The gut brain connection illustrates how what we want to put into our mouths can be influenced by one's own gut microbiome demands.
Binging is one example of this. Totally healthy people do not binge eat from what I can read or my experience since Oct 2014 at the age of 63. If some have medical science links that prove my personal experiences of the past 5 years of eating Low Carb High Fat are not factual and or that this research report is not factual please post the links and we can debate from that point.
Please do tell me what is wrong with me that causes my binge eating please. And indeed how it is that this thing has been wrong with me for the last forty years without any other apparent impact.6 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Low-Carb Diet Benefits People with Metabolic Syndrome Independent of Weight Loss
Jun 24, 2019 by News Staff / Source
sci-news.com/medicine/low-carb-diet-metabolic-syndrome-07315.html
"A new study published in the Journal of Clinical Investigation Insight shows that metabolic syndrome — a cluster of factors that also put people at higher risk of heart disease and stroke — can be rapidly (within 4 weeks) reversed by a low-carb diet in the majority of people even if they don’t lose any weight....."- Study had a whopping 16 participants.
- On LC, 9 of 16 no longer qualified as MetSyn after 4 weeks, after MC 3 of 16 no longer qualified, not exactly enough to consider definitive.
- I would love to see if this experiment were extended out to 6 months, would the results even out? In other words, does the LC diet just get these results faster?
- Considering the typical claims about keto, I found this blurb interesting: "They did not see statistically significant improvements in blood pressure or insulin resistance."
- Dr. Volek founded a company that sells a rather expensive private program that claims to treat and reverse T2D through keto. Just something to keep in mind. https://www.virtahealth.com/about/jeffvolek
I can appreciate that this goes to the argument that benefits of low carb are attributable to weight loss, not the type of diet. This is a small, one off study, but point taken.
Having said that, I doubt it's a good idea to stay obese but eat low carb to avoid some of the risk of Metabolic Syndrome. And if reaching a healthy weight anyway will reverse it regardless of how you eat, I'm not sure what the point is unless you enjoy eating that way. To me, what this study suggests is: if you are going to stay obese, you might be better off eating low carb. I don't think it asserts anything about the best way to lose weight, or the best way to eat if you are a healthy weight. Just my opinion, of course.
Low carb is not for weight loss but to see if it will help resolve the health issues that lead to obesity initially since obesity does not seem to be a primary disease but a secondary disease due to some.
The short n=16 study was only about reducing the known risk factors of heart disease which is a major cause of death in the USA.
Below is some research on the impact of eating protein, fats and carbs on the gut microbiome that may be of interest to some reading on the subject. The quoted text typically is from the start of different section of the research paper that would be best to read fully in interested in the subject matter.
Influence of diet on the gut microbiome and implications for human health
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5385025/
"Protein
The effects of dietary protein on the gut microbiota were first described in 1977."
"Fats
Consumption of high saturated and trans fat diets is thought to increase the risk of cardiovascular disease through upregulation of blood total- and LDL-cholesterol [43, 44]."
"Carbohydrates
Digestible carbohydrates (starch, sugars)
Carbohydrates are possibly the most well studied dietary component for their ability to modify the gut microbiome (studies listed in Table 4)."
"The artificial sweeteners saccharin, sucralose, and aspartame represent another dietary controversy. Artificial sweeteners were originally marketed as a health-conscious, no-calorie food option that could be used to replace natural sugar. Recent evidence from Suez et al. suggests that consumption of all types of artificial sweeteners is actually more likely to induce glucose intolerance than consumption of pure glucose and sucrose. Interestingly, artificial sweeteners are thought to mediate this effect through alteration of gut microbiota." The bold text is my doing for a special person that is struggling with this health risk.
"Besides immunity, gut microorganisms have also been shown to impact host metabolic health. Individuals with metabolic disorders such as obesity and diabetes have been shown to have intestinal dysbiosis in relation to healthy individuals [148, 149]. Further characterization of the link between the gut microbiome and obesity has revealed several bacterial groups that may specifically contribute to the disease." Note: Bolding in this paragraph is to highlight that obesity primarily is a metabolic disorder that can cause obesity as a side effect of a primary health disorder. Truly healthy people or other animals do not become obese. Over eating is not a primary cause of obesity in a medical sense. Calories are units of energy. Macros are what that primarily leads to a positive or negative gut microbiome. The gut brain connection illustrates how what we want to put into our mouths can be influenced by one's own gut microbiome demands.
Binging is one example of this. Totally healthy people do not binge eat from what I can read or my experience since Oct 2014 at the age of 63. If some have medical science links that prove my personal experiences of the past 5 years of eating Low Carb High Fat are not factual and or that this research report is not factual please post the links and we can debate from that point.
Please do tell me what is wrong with me that causes my binge eating please. And indeed how it is that this thing has been wrong with me for the last forty years without any other apparent impact.
Please share all of your n=1 studies over the last 40 years and their results if you want a MFP peer review in your case perhaps.
In my case I had did not start my first n=1 where I left all types of sweeteners and all forms of all grains until Oct 2014 cold turkey successfully and made up my calorie loss with coconut oil. My only objective was to find a diet based solution to my 40 years of joint pain and IBS because the doctors has me scheduled to start Enbrel injections Nov 2014 that I thought would be the end of me in my weakened state of health at the age of 63.
A couple weeks into LCHF my pain and cravings started to drop like a rock and both have been well managed by diet only for over 4 years. The unplanned weight loss started at the six week mark and now I have been down 50 pounds for 4 years eating all that I wanted so never going hungry. I do keep my carbs down to 50 grams daily because of my plant based fiber that is as low as I will go carb wise but have no daily calorie limits but I seldom eat over 3000 calories a day.
In my case my binge eating desired stopped a couple weeks after I dropped my daily carbs down to 50 grams. I make no claims as to why my fuel gauge started back to working after being broken for 40 years. I expect in light of medical research my new Way Of Eating fixed my primary health issues that was causing my secondary obesity related issues since my health and lab exams became normal for the first time in 40 years.12 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Low-Carb Diet Benefits People with Metabolic Syndrome Independent of Weight Loss
Jun 24, 2019 by News Staff / Source
sci-news.com/medicine/low-carb-diet-metabolic-syndrome-07315.html
"A new study published in the Journal of Clinical Investigation Insight shows that metabolic syndrome — a cluster of factors that also put people at higher risk of heart disease and stroke — can be rapidly (within 4 weeks) reversed by a low-carb diet in the majority of people even if they don’t lose any weight....."- Study had a whopping 16 participants.
- On LC, 9 of 16 no longer qualified as MetSyn after 4 weeks, after MC 3 of 16 no longer qualified, not exactly enough to consider definitive.
- I would love to see if this experiment were extended out to 6 months, would the results even out? In other words, does the LC diet just get these results faster?
- Considering the typical claims about keto, I found this blurb interesting: "They did not see statistically significant improvements in blood pressure or insulin resistance."
- Dr. Volek founded a company that sells a rather expensive private program that claims to treat and reverse T2D through keto. Just something to keep in mind. https://www.virtahealth.com/about/jeffvolek
I can appreciate that this goes to the argument that benefits of low carb are attributable to weight loss, not the type of diet. This is a small, one off study, but point taken.
Having said that, I doubt it's a good idea to stay obese but eat low carb to avoid some of the risk of Metabolic Syndrome. And if reaching a healthy weight anyway will reverse it regardless of how you eat, I'm not sure what the point is unless you enjoy eating that way. To me, what this study suggests is: if you are going to stay obese, you might be better off eating low carb. I don't think it asserts anything about the best way to lose weight, or the best way to eat if you are a healthy weight. Just my opinion, of course.
Low carb is not for weight loss but to see if it will help resolve the health issues that lead to obesity initially since obesity does not seem to be a primary disease but a secondary disease due to some.
The short n=16 study was only about reducing the known risk factors of heart disease which is a major cause of death in the USA.
Below is some research on the impact of eating protein, fats and carbs on the gut microbiome that may be of interest to some reading on the subject. The quoted text typically is from the start of different section of the research paper that would be best to read fully in interested in the subject matter.
Influence of diet on the gut microbiome and implications for human health
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5385025/
"Protein
The effects of dietary protein on the gut microbiota were first described in 1977."
"Fats
Consumption of high saturated and trans fat diets is thought to increase the risk of cardiovascular disease through upregulation of blood total- and LDL-cholesterol [43, 44]."
"Carbohydrates
Digestible carbohydrates (starch, sugars)
Carbohydrates are possibly the most well studied dietary component for their ability to modify the gut microbiome (studies listed in Table 4)."
"The artificial sweeteners saccharin, sucralose, and aspartame represent another dietary controversy. Artificial sweeteners were originally marketed as a health-conscious, no-calorie food option that could be used to replace natural sugar. Recent evidence from Suez et al. suggests that consumption of all types of artificial sweeteners is actually more likely to induce glucose intolerance than consumption of pure glucose and sucrose. Interestingly, artificial sweeteners are thought to mediate this effect through alteration of gut microbiota." The bold text is my doing for a special person that is struggling with this health risk.
"Besides immunity, gut microorganisms have also been shown to impact host metabolic health. Individuals with metabolic disorders such as obesity and diabetes have been shown to have intestinal dysbiosis in relation to healthy individuals [148, 149]. Further characterization of the link between the gut microbiome and obesity has revealed several bacterial groups that may specifically contribute to the disease." Note: Bolding in this paragraph is to highlight that obesity primarily is a metabolic disorder that can cause obesity as a side effect of a primary health disorder. Truly healthy people or other animals do not become obese. Over eating is not a primary cause of obesity in a medical sense. Calories are units of energy. Macros are what that primarily leads to a positive or negative gut microbiome. The gut brain connection illustrates how what we want to put into our mouths can be influenced by one's own gut microbiome demands.
Binging is one example of this. Totally healthy people do not binge eat from what I can read or my experience since Oct 2014 at the age of 63. If some have medical science links that prove my personal experiences of the past 5 years of eating Low Carb High Fat are not factual and or that this research report is not factual please post the links and we can debate from that point.
Please do tell me what is wrong with me that causes my binge eating please. And indeed how it is that this thing has been wrong with me for the last forty years without any other apparent impact.
Please share all of your n=1 studies over the last 40 years and their results if you want a MFP peer review in your case perhaps.
In my case I had did not start my first n=1 where I left all types of sweeteners and all forms of all grains until Oct 2014 cold turkey successfully and made up my calorie loss with coconut oil. My only objective was to find a diet based solution to my 40 years of joint pain and IBS because the doctors has me scheduled to start Enbrel injections Nov 2014 that I thought would be the end of me in my weakened state of health at the age of 63.
A couple weeks into LCHF my pain and cravings started to drop like a rock and both have been well managed by diet only for over 4 years. The unplanned weight loss started at the six week mark and now I have been down 50 pounds for 4 years eating all that I wanted so never going hungry. I do keep my carbs down to 50 grams daily because of my plant based fiber that is as low as I will go carb wise but have no daily calorie limits but I seldom eat over 3000 calories a day.
In my case my binge eating desired stopped a couple weeks after I dropped my daily carbs down to 50 grams. I make no claims as to why my fuel gauge started back to working after being broken for 40 years. I expect in light of medical research my new Way Of Eating fixed my primary health issues that was causing my secondary obesity related issues since my health and lab exams became normal for the first time in 40 years.
I note that you completely avoided actually addressing my question. Maybe it’s because there’s actually nothing wrong with me?
I lost weight - over 200 lb - on a high carb diet. And yet my joint pain (osteoarthritis from an injury in my 20s) and digestive issues also dropped like a rock; one as my weight reduced, one as I stopped overeating.
It’s almost as if the keto side of things might be completely irrelevant.17 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Low-Carb Diet Benefits People with Metabolic Syndrome Independent of Weight Loss
Jun 24, 2019 by News Staff / Source
sci-news.com/medicine/low-carb-diet-metabolic-syndrome-07315.html
"A new study published in the Journal of Clinical Investigation Insight shows that metabolic syndrome — a cluster of factors that also put people at higher risk of heart disease and stroke — can be rapidly (within 4 weeks) reversed by a low-carb diet in the majority of people even if they don’t lose any weight....."- Study had a whopping 16 participants.
- On LC, 9 of 16 no longer qualified as MetSyn after 4 weeks, after MC 3 of 16 no longer qualified, not exactly enough to consider definitive.
- I would love to see if this experiment were extended out to 6 months, would the results even out? In other words, does the LC diet just get these results faster?
- Considering the typical claims about keto, I found this blurb interesting: "They did not see statistically significant improvements in blood pressure or insulin resistance."
- Dr. Volek founded a company that sells a rather expensive private program that claims to treat and reverse T2D through keto. Just something to keep in mind. https://www.virtahealth.com/about/jeffvolek
I can appreciate that this goes to the argument that benefits of low carb are attributable to weight loss, not the type of diet. This is a small, one off study, but point taken.
Having said that, I doubt it's a good idea to stay obese but eat low carb to avoid some of the risk of Metabolic Syndrome. And if reaching a healthy weight anyway will reverse it regardless of how you eat, I'm not sure what the point is unless you enjoy eating that way. To me, what this study suggests is: if you are going to stay obese, you might be better off eating low carb. I don't think it asserts anything about the best way to lose weight, or the best way to eat if you are a healthy weight. Just my opinion, of course.
Low carb is not for weight loss but to see if it will help resolve the health issues that lead to obesity initially since obesity does not seem to be a primary disease but a secondary disease due to some.
The short n=16 study was only about reducing the known risk factors of heart disease which is a major cause of death in the USA.
Below is some research on the impact of eating protein, fats and carbs on the gut microbiome that may be of interest to some reading on the subject. The quoted text typically is from the start of different section of the research paper that would be best to read fully in interested in the subject matter.
Influence of diet on the gut microbiome and implications for human health
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5385025/
"Protein
The effects of dietary protein on the gut microbiota were first described in 1977."
"Fats
Consumption of high saturated and trans fat diets is thought to increase the risk of cardiovascular disease through upregulation of blood total- and LDL-cholesterol [43, 44]."
"Carbohydrates
Digestible carbohydrates (starch, sugars)
Carbohydrates are possibly the most well studied dietary component for their ability to modify the gut microbiome (studies listed in Table 4)."
"The artificial sweeteners saccharin, sucralose, and aspartame represent another dietary controversy. Artificial sweeteners were originally marketed as a health-conscious, no-calorie food option that could be used to replace natural sugar. Recent evidence from Suez et al. suggests that consumption of all types of artificial sweeteners is actually more likely to induce glucose intolerance than consumption of pure glucose and sucrose. Interestingly, artificial sweeteners are thought to mediate this effect through alteration of gut microbiota." The bold text is my doing for a special person that is struggling with this health risk.
"Besides immunity, gut microorganisms have also been shown to impact host metabolic health. Individuals with metabolic disorders such as obesity and diabetes have been shown to have intestinal dysbiosis in relation to healthy individuals [148, 149]. Further characterization of the link between the gut microbiome and obesity has revealed several bacterial groups that may specifically contribute to the disease." Note: Bolding in this paragraph is to highlight that obesity primarily is a metabolic disorder that can cause obesity as a side effect of a primary health disorder. Truly healthy people or other animals do not become obese. Over eating is not a primary cause of obesity in a medical sense. Calories are units of energy. Macros are what that primarily leads to a positive or negative gut microbiome. The gut brain connection illustrates how what we want to put into our mouths can be influenced by one's own gut microbiome demands.
Binging is one example of this. Totally healthy people do not binge eat from what I can read or my experience since Oct 2014 at the age of 63. If some have medical science links that prove my personal experiences of the past 5 years of eating Low Carb High Fat are not factual and or that this research report is not factual please post the links and we can debate from that point.
Please do tell me what is wrong with me that causes my binge eating please. And indeed how it is that this thing has been wrong with me for the last forty years without any other apparent impact.
Please share all of your n=1 studies over the last 40 years and their results if you want a MFP peer review in your case perhaps.
In my case I had did not start my first n=1 where I left all types of sweeteners and all forms of all grains until Oct 2014 cold turkey successfully and made up my calorie loss with coconut oil. My only objective was to find a diet based solution to my 40 years of joint pain and IBS because the doctors has me scheduled to start Enbrel injections Nov 2014 that I thought would be the end of me in my weakened state of health at the age of 63.
A couple weeks into LCHF my pain and cravings started to drop like a rock and both have been well managed by diet only for over 4 years. The unplanned weight loss started at the six week mark and now I have been down 50 pounds for 4 years eating all that I wanted so never going hungry. I do keep my carbs down to 50 grams daily because of my plant based fiber that is as low as I will go carb wise but have no daily calorie limits but I seldom eat over 3000 calories a day.
In my case my binge eating desired stopped a couple weeks after I dropped my daily carbs down to 50 grams. I make no claims as to why my fuel gauge started back to working after being broken for 40 years. I expect in light of medical research my new Way Of Eating fixed my primary health issues that was causing my secondary obesity related issues since my health and lab exams became normal for the first time in 40 years.
I note that you completely avoided actually addressing my question. Maybe it’s because there’s actually nothing wrong with me?
I lost weight - over 200 lb - on a high carb diet. And yet my joint pain (osteoarthritis from an injury in my 20s) and digestive issues also dropped like a rock; one as my weight reduced, one as I stopped overeating.
It’s almost as if the keto side of things might be completely irrelevant.
Sounds true in your case at least. We are all different. I only had 4 weeks to dodge the Enbrel bullet in my case so my two week eating solution worked out well in my case and nearly 5 years later I can still eat all that I want and maintain the unplanned weight loss UNLESS I start sucking down more than 50 grams of carbs daily. I like my WOE and plan to do it at least until my 110th birthday party.12 -
Still waiting to find out what kind of health problem can cause overeating for almost 40 years without any other symptoms or effects.6
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GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Low-Carb Diet Benefits People with Metabolic Syndrome Independent of Weight Loss
Jun 24, 2019 by News Staff / Source
sci-news.com/medicine/low-carb-diet-metabolic-syndrome-07315.html
"A new study published in the Journal of Clinical Investigation Insight shows that metabolic syndrome — a cluster of factors that also put people at higher risk of heart disease and stroke — can be rapidly (within 4 weeks) reversed by a low-carb diet in the majority of people even if they don’t lose any weight....."- Study had a whopping 16 participants.
- On LC, 9 of 16 no longer qualified as MetSyn after 4 weeks, after MC 3 of 16 no longer qualified, not exactly enough to consider definitive.
- I would love to see if this experiment were extended out to 6 months, would the results even out? In other words, does the LC diet just get these results faster?
- Considering the typical claims about keto, I found this blurb interesting: "They did not see statistically significant improvements in blood pressure or insulin resistance."
- Dr. Volek founded a company that sells a rather expensive private program that claims to treat and reverse T2D through keto. Just something to keep in mind. https://www.virtahealth.com/about/jeffvolek
I can appreciate that this goes to the argument that benefits of low carb are attributable to weight loss, not the type of diet. This is a small, one off study, but point taken.
Having said that, I doubt it's a good idea to stay obese but eat low carb to avoid some of the risk of Metabolic Syndrome. And if reaching a healthy weight anyway will reverse it regardless of how you eat, I'm not sure what the point is unless you enjoy eating that way. To me, what this study suggests is: if you are going to stay obese, you might be better off eating low carb. I don't think it asserts anything about the best way to lose weight, or the best way to eat if you are a healthy weight. Just my opinion, of course.
Low carb is not for weight loss but to see if it will help resolve the health issues that lead to obesity initially since obesity does not seem to be a primary disease but a secondary disease due to some.
The short n=16 study was only about reducing the known risk factors of heart disease which is a major cause of death in the USA.
Below is some research on the impact of eating protein, fats and carbs on the gut microbiome that may be of interest to some reading on the subject. The quoted text typically is from the start of different section of the research paper that would be best to read fully in interested in the subject matter.
Influence of diet on the gut microbiome and implications for human health
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5385025/
"Protein
The effects of dietary protein on the gut microbiota were first described in 1977."
"Fats
Consumption of high saturated and trans fat diets is thought to increase the risk of cardiovascular disease through upregulation of blood total- and LDL-cholesterol [43, 44]."
"Carbohydrates
Digestible carbohydrates (starch, sugars)
Carbohydrates are possibly the most well studied dietary component for their ability to modify the gut microbiome (studies listed in Table 4)."
"The artificial sweeteners saccharin, sucralose, and aspartame represent another dietary controversy. Artificial sweeteners were originally marketed as a health-conscious, no-calorie food option that could be used to replace natural sugar. Recent evidence from Suez et al. suggests that consumption of all types of artificial sweeteners is actually more likely to induce glucose intolerance than consumption of pure glucose and sucrose. Interestingly, artificial sweeteners are thought to mediate this effect through alteration of gut microbiota." The bold text is my doing for a special person that is struggling with this health risk.
"Besides immunity, gut microorganisms have also been shown to impact host metabolic health. Individuals with metabolic disorders such as obesity and diabetes have been shown to have intestinal dysbiosis in relation to healthy individuals [148, 149]. Further characterization of the link between the gut microbiome and obesity has revealed several bacterial groups that may specifically contribute to the disease." Note: Bolding in this paragraph is to highlight that obesity primarily is a metabolic disorder that can cause obesity as a side effect of a primary health disorder. Truly healthy people or other animals do not become obese. Over eating is not a primary cause of obesity in a medical sense. Calories are units of energy. Macros are what that primarily leads to a positive or negative gut microbiome. The gut brain connection illustrates how what we want to put into our mouths can be influenced by one's own gut microbiome demands.
Binging is one example of this. Totally healthy people do not binge eat from what I can read or my experience since Oct 2014 at the age of 63. If some have medical science links that prove my personal experiences of the past 5 years of eating Low Carb High Fat are not factual and or that this research report is not factual please post the links and we can debate from that point.
Please do tell me what is wrong with me that causes my binge eating please. And indeed how it is that this thing has been wrong with me for the last forty years without any other apparent impact.
Please share all of your n=1 studies over the last 40 years and their results if you want a MFP peer review in your case perhaps.
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Further evidence that you don't understand the peer review process at all
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This hits on the non ketone keto benefits and why IF is so successful that I have been looking for for four years. I read the transcript because I do not think she is from Kentucky.
https://hvmn.com/podcast/gut-microbiome-research-roundup10 -
I have lost 90 lbs with keto in 18 months; currently I've been stalled for about 8 months and can't seem to get the scale moving again. HOWEVER, I have also reversed my T2 diabetes and have been able to stop all 3 of my meds; I've normalized my blood pressure and have been able to stop meds; I've lowered my cholesterol. I've CURED my decades long IBS/recurrent diverticulitis problems. I have ZERO inflammation in my body anymore and haven't been sick (not even a cold) for 2 years. I'd say keto is very, very good.7
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I have lost 90 lbs with keto in 18 months; currently I've been stalled for about 8 months and can't seem to get the scale moving again. HOWEVER, I have also reversed my T2 diabetes and have been able to stop all 3 of my meds; I've normalized my blood pressure and have been able to stop meds; I've lowered my cholesterol. I've CURED my decades long IBS/recurrent diverticulitis problems. I have ZERO inflammation in my body anymore and haven't been sick (not even a cold) for 2 years. I'd say keto is very, very good.
Its great that keto worked for you, but I'd argue that the benefits you saw were a result of the weight loss, and not keto specifically. Keto helped you to achieve a caloric deficit which is great. It does have that affect on some people, but if you are currently stalled, it may be because you are no longer in a deficit. Its impossible to tell without knowing how long you've gone without losing weight. If it is a significant amount of time, then I'd advise you figure out calorically what you should be eating, weigh your portions carefully, and track your calories. You can stick with keto if you prefer, but if you want to lose weight then its necessary to be at a caloric deficit.7 -
No, not true. I could never reverse my T2 diabetes without drastically cutting the carbs. I could only eat 500 calories a day, but if they were all carbs, I wouldn't lose weight. How do I know that? I tried for years. Diet after diet after diet. NONE of them addressed the underlying issue of why I gained weight in the first place: insulin resistance.23
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I am currently in a calorie deficit, as I also do IF. In the past when I've stalled, it was always because it was healing something and the weight loss would start again. I'm certain my weight will start dropping again if I just keto on. I heard it gets more difficult the closer you get to your goal, and I am finding that to be true.
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I think even at N=1, Gale has a way to demonstrate his claim. He just needs to start a strong keto bulk and show that his ankylosing spondylitis doesn't return at the higher weight while gaining rather than losing.
We have the studies for a lot of diseases that even a few weeks of deficit can cause marked improvements ahead of reaching normal weight.5 -
No, not true. I could never reverse my T2 diabetes without drastically cutting the carbs. I could only eat 500 calories a day, but if they were all carbs, I wouldn't lose weight. How do I know that? I tried for years. Diet after diet after diet. NONE of them addressed the underlying issue of why I gained weight in the first place: insulin resistance.
That is a fanciful claim. Science says "No".
Your body cannot manufacturer energy it just uses what you eat or what you have stored. It is impossible to eat only 500 calories and not lose weight. You believe a myth most likely because you never understood that weight loss is not linear on the bathroom scale.
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No, not true. I could never reverse my T2 diabetes without drastically cutting the carbs. I could only eat 500 calories a day, but if they were all carbs, I wouldn't lose weight. How do I know that? I tried for years. Diet after diet after diet. NONE of them addressed the underlying issue of why I gained weight in the first place: insulin resistance.
More than likely you gained weight before you became insulin resistant...5 -
I am currently in a calorie deficit, as I also do IF. In the past when I've stalled, it was always because it was healing something and the weight loss would start again. I'm certain my weight will start dropping again if I just keto on. I heard it gets more difficult the closer you get to your goal, and I am finding that to be true.
If you are not losing weight you are not in a deficit...4 -
What is the mechanism by which IR causes weight gain? Physically, it actually should make weight gain more difficult.2
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I have seen a keto diet work wonders for people. My brother lost about 90 pounds in the past year. I know several people who swear by it, who claim that it has relieved any number of health issues in addition to helping them lose weight.
It is not a diet I have any desire to follow. Whatever benefit there might be is outweighed by the fact that I simply do not like high-fat foods (save for the occasional ice cream). I don't even like whole milk in my coffee, as I feel it makes it taste "greasy"...the idea of "bulletproof" coffee turns my stomach. I try to eat a balanced diet, mostly pescatarian. I love fruits and veggies, and enjoy the occasional pasta or multigrain bread. Not ever being able to eat another Twix bar or homemade Tollhouse chocolate chip cookie would make me sad.7 -
I have seen a keto diet work wonders for people. My brother lost about 90 pounds in the past year. I know several people who swear by it, who claim that it has relieved any number of health issues in addition to helping them lose weight.
It is not a diet I have any desire to follow. Whatever benefit there might be is outweighed by the fact that I simply do not like high-fat foods (save for the occasional ice cream). I don't even like whole milk in my coffee, as I feel it makes it taste "greasy"...the idea of "bulletproof" coffee turns my stomach. I try to eat a balanced diet, mostly pescatarian. I love fruits and veggies, and enjoy the occasional pasta or multigrain bread. Not ever being able to eat another Twix bar or homemade Tollhouse chocolate chip cookie would make me sad.
More than likely the health improvements were a response to losing weight...11 -
I have seen a keto diet work wonders for people. My brother lost about 90 pounds in the past year. I know several people who swear by it, who claim that it has relieved any number of health issues in addition to helping them lose weight.
It is not a diet I have any desire to follow. Whatever benefit there might be is outweighed by the fact that I simply do not like high-fat foods (save for the occasional ice cream). I don't even like whole milk in my coffee, as I feel it makes it taste "greasy"...the idea of "bulletproof" coffee turns my stomach. I try to eat a balanced diet, mostly pescatarian. I love fruits and veggies, and enjoy the occasional pasta or multigrain bread. Not ever being able to eat another Twix bar or homemade Tollhouse chocolate chip cookie would make me sad.
You can only make that claim though if your health improves but you lost no weight while eating a ketogenic diet. It is well established that losing weight can improve health so if your health improves after weight loss it stands to reason that it should get the credit.
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