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The most polarizing food: where do you stand?
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I didn't want to get into an argument, but I do feel that everyone should be quiet and accept that I'm right. Repeat after me:
"The world, nay the Galaxy, would be a far better place to live without those particular cookies".11 -
DanSanthomes wrote: »I didn't want to get into an argument, but I do feel that everyone should be quiet and accept that I'm right. Repeat after me:
"The world, nay the Galaxy, would be a far better place to live without those particular cookies".
In the Debates forum?!
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I guess I should be impressed that we got through 7 pages of good-natured bantering about the taste of a particular food before it became a lecture about whose definition of food is more virtuous. I think the over/under was 4 pages. <shrug>
Anyway, it's mayo I'd contend isn't fit for human consumption. There is nothing you put mayo on/in that you couldn't use something else, so it should cease to exist.6 -
I guess I should be impressed that we got through 7 pages of good-natured bantering about the taste of a particular food before it became a lecture about whose definition of food is more virtuous. I think the over/under was 4 pages. <shrug>
Anyway, it's mayo I'd contend isn't fit for human consumption. There is nothing you put mayo on/in that you couldn't use something else, so it should cease to exist.
HEATHEN, burn her!!!!! :-)3 -
DanSanthomes wrote: »I didn't want to get into an argument, but I do feel that everyone should be quiet and accept that I'm right. Repeat after me:
"The world, nay the Galaxy, would be a far better place to live without those particular cookies".
Except you are not right.
They are food - not highly nutritious food, but nobody said it was. And maybe not food you like, not food I like either, but that doesn't mean other people can't like them or eat them in moderation.
Sometimes foods - nobody is suggesting base your whole diet around them - but if you like them, sure, you can eat them in moderation as part of a balanced diet.
Or you can over eat them - but that is a problem with overconsumption, not with them being non foods.
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paperpudding wrote: »DanSanthomes wrote: »I didn't want to get into an argument, but I do feel that everyone should be quiet and accept that I'm right. Repeat after me:
"The world, nay the Galaxy, would be a far better place to live without those particular cookies".
Except you are not right.
They are food - not highly nutritious food, but nobody said it was. And maybe not food you like, not food I like either, but that doesn't mean other people can't like them or eat them in moderation.
Sometimes foods - nobody is suggesting base your whole diet around them - but if you like them, sure, you can eat them in moderation as part of a balanced diet.
Or you can over eat them - but that is a problem with overconsumption, not with them being non foods.
...and people sure do like their 'food' items...just check out this thread that has been on going for months and months...https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10064318/new-products-that-caught-your-eyes-recently#latest1 -
...and people sure do like their 'food' items...just check out this thread that has been on going for months and months...https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10064318/new-products-that-caught-your-eyes-recently#latest
I followed the link and the first 3 items literally gave me an embolism :-)0 -
paperpudding wrote: »DanSanthomes wrote: »I didn't want to get into an argument, but I do feel that everyone should be quiet and accept that I'm right. Repeat after me:
"The world, nay the Galaxy, would be a far better place to live without those particular cookies".
Except you are not right.
They are food - not highly nutritious food, but nobody said it was. And maybe not food you like, not food I like either, but that doesn't mean other people can't like them or eat them in moderation.
Sometimes foods - nobody is suggesting base your whole diet around them - but if you like them, sure, you can eat them in moderation as part of a balanced diet.
Or you can over eat them - but that is a problem with overconsumption, not with them being non foods.
...and people sure do like their 'food' items...just check out this thread that has been on going for months and months...https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10064318/new-products-that-caught-your-eyes-recently#latest
Please don't point the troll (which I'm hoping he is instead of actually believing the "crap" he spews) to the best thread ever on any message board.
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paperpudding wrote: »DanSanthomes wrote: »I didn't want to get into an argument, but I do feel that everyone should be quiet and accept that I'm right. Repeat after me:
"The world, nay the Galaxy, would be a far better place to live without those particular cookies".
Except you are not right.
They are food - not highly nutritious food, but nobody said it was. And maybe not food you like, not food I like either, but that doesn't mean other people can't like them or eat them in moderation.
Sometimes foods - nobody is suggesting base your whole diet around them - but if you like them, sure, you can eat them in moderation as part of a balanced diet.
Or you can over eat them - but that is a problem with overconsumption, not with them being non foods.
...and people sure do like their 'food' items...just check out this thread that has been on going for months and months...https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10064318/new-products-that-caught-your-eyes-recently#latest
Correction - going on for years.
Since 2015 in fact.
Just goes to show lots of people can be into weight control and health and fitness and still enjoy sometimes foods.
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DanSanthomes wrote: »...and people sure do like their 'food' items...just check out this thread that has been on going for months and months...https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10064318/new-products-that-caught-your-eyes-recently#latest
I followed the link and the first 3 items literally gave me an embolism :-)
You do love hyperbole
No they did not literally give you an embolism.
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You do love hyperbole
No they did not literally give you an embolism. .
Apologies Pudding - I thought that was your intention when you sent them. He He.
Wow though - you make a comment on a board and get accused of: 'snobbery, being a troll, a ridiculous zealot, in need of therapy, the list goes on... However, I did preface one of my first comments with, "I'll probably get burnt for this" so it was my own fault.
Deep down, I'm saddened by the state of people's health across the globe - honestly. I'm old enough to remember the 70s and there only being one overweight kid in the whole school (of 150 pupils). Fast forward to today, I walk to school with one of my kids and half of them are puffing and panting up the hill, or straining to get out of the car. Yes, I'm not blaming these particular cookies, or cookies in general - it's just you know, could we live without them ever being invented - yes. Why? Because they're not 'food' as we normally class it.
Think that's it. Not a troll, don't understand trollism if I'm honest.
Good debating with you - although I frown upon arguing!
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But they are food, as we know it.
Just silly to keep claiming otherwise.
And of course we could live without them ever bring invented - that goes for every food out there, none are so crucial that there are not other foods that we could eat instead.
Silly argument is just getting sillier.
I agree with PP - time to stop giving it air time.
Back to pizzas, mayo, toasted sandwiches etc - I'm disengaging with you now about frosted cookies.
I do love a good pizza
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I didn't accuse you of being a troll. I LITERALLY said I hoped you were one. Trolling is when someone posts something just to stir up *kitten*. But, since you're not, you're much worse. At least trolls are just trying to mind *kitten* people. You still don't get that what you think isn't food is.
Have you mentioned what you do classify as food?2 -
So, you seem to be drawing a distinction between homemade cookies, and these cookies. Let's dig into that a bit, shall we? (I have no pre-defined agenda here: I don't eat the Lofthouse cookies, think they're gross, but I'm very laissez faire when it comes to others' choices.)
This started with your initial post being woo-ed, and you asking why. So let's approach this in a fact-based manner, since that would be a science-ish thing to do.
According to the Food Lion (grocery store) web site, these cookies have the following ingredients:Sugar, Enriched Bleached Wheat Flour (Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Margarine (Palm Oil, Water, Soybean Oil, Salt, Contains 2% or less of: Mono- & Diglycerides, Calcium Disodium EDTA [Preservative], Artificial Flavor, Annatto [Color], Vitamin A Palmitate), Eggs, Contains 2% or less of: Water, Corn Starch, Vegetable Oil (Palm Kernel Oil and/or Palm Oil and/or Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil [Cottonseed and/or Soybean Oil]), Dextrin, Skim Milk, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Leavening (Baking Soda, Sodium Aluminum Sulfate, Monocalcium Phosphate), Soy Lecithin (Emulsifier),Confectioner's Glaze (Lac Resin), Food Starch-Modified, Colors (Carmine [Color], Blue 1, Blue 1 Lake, Blue 2, Blue 2 Lake, Red 3, Red 40, Red 40 Lake, Yellow 5, Yellow 5 Lake, Yellow 6, Yellow 6 Lake), Polysorbate 60, Carnauba Wax, Sodium Propionate (Preservative).
If I were making cookies at home, most of those ingredients would be in the cookies, especially true for the ingredients at the top (more predominant ones): Sugar, flour, some kind of oil or shortening (probably a simpler one like butter, or coconut oil, because yummier), eggs, milk, leavening. I wouldn't put in artificial flavors (natural vanilla extract is yummier IMO), probably not the artificial colors (I mostly don't want colors - but if I did it would be standard commercial food coloring, which would likely be this same stuff). I certainly wouldn't put in the preservatives (gonna eat 'em or freeze 'em), carnauba wax (?!), or the Confectioners Glaze (Lac Resin) (no idea what that even is).
So, bottom line: Similar ingredients, differences in the minor items. (This might justify a "woo", in some people's minds.)
Next up, nutrition: Specifically, do they have nutritional value, or are they "masquerading as food".Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 38 g
Servings Per Container 10
Amount Per Serving
Calories 160.0 Cal
Calories From Fat 50.0 Cal
% Daily Value
Total Fat 6.0g 9.0%
Saturated Fat 2.5 g 13.0
Trans Fat 0.0 g
Cholesterol 5.0 mg 2.0
Sodium 100.0 mg4.0
Total Carbohydrate 26.0g 9.0%
Dietary Fiber 0.0 g 0.0
Sugars 16.0 g
Protein 1.0 g
Vitamin A 4.0
Vitamin C 0.0
Calcium 0.0
Iron 4.0
So, "food energy" (calories ), tiny (negligible) amount of protein, a little fat, tiny vitamin A and iron. Not great. Probably not that far off home-made, but realistically, very low nutrition for the calories, mostly sugar and carbs. They might be a truly affirmative choice for an endurance athlete who enjoyed them and needed the calories. For anyone else who enjoys them, seems like a "sometimes food".
Conclusion: Nothing in particular. Just some facts. It's just that I don't mostly enjoy rant-y emotional stuff. Facts are good.
Y'all are having some good fun, but I'm still hung up on what I bolded in that ingredients list. See, I use Carnauba wax ON MY PICKUP TRUCK
Following that logic, anything I can put into my body that passes out the other end without killing me or sickening me can be classified as food.
An abomination colored pretty pink. That's what these cookies are.
I'm going to go slug this down now. Maybe I'll have a new product to put on market shelves soon.
Seriously, that doesn't bother anyone?4 -
DanSanthomes wrote: »You do love hyperbole
No they did not literally give you an embolism. .
Apologies Pudding - I thought that was your intention when you sent them. He He.
Wow though - you make a comment on a board and get accused of: 'snobbery, being a troll, a ridiculous zealot, in need of therapy, the list goes on... However, I did preface one of my first comments with, "I'll probably get burnt for this" so it was my own fault.
Deep down, I'm saddened by the state of people's health across the globe - honestly. I'm old enough to remember the 70s and there only being one overweight kid in the whole school (of 150 pupils). Fast forward to today, I walk to school with one of my kids and half of them are puffing and panting up the hill, or straining to get out of the car. Yes, I'm not blaming these particular cookies, or cookies in general - it's just you know, could we live without them ever being invented - yes. Why? Because they're not 'food' as we normally class it.
Think that's it. Not a troll, don't understand trollism if I'm honest.
Good debating with you - although I frown upon arguing!
You keep saying the bold like it's some sort of verifiable and agreed upon fact. It's not. The human body can digest one of these cookies and extract energy and a small amount of limited nutrients from it - it's food.
There were a number of people in here who said they liked these cookies, and others who said they preferred different commercially produced cookies. Why would you be surprised that saying we're all eating something that doesn't even qualify as food is taken as some kind of insult? How else is that supposed to be taken? Especially when you keep tying them to bored, overweight people.
I was a kid in the 70's. I ate Hostess Cupcakes or Chips Ahoy or Frosted Flakes and bottled orange juice every day. I was a string bean, really until I was in my 20's. Ironically, it's when I started trying to eat "healthy" and ended up caught in the trap of conflating eating habits with morality and self-worth that I started gaining weight. But I also at the same time got a desk job. So I'm pretty sure it was the desk job that made me overweight and the moralistic eating philosophy that made me feel like garbage.
If you had some fun reason for posting about how commercial crap isn't food and kids can't make it up hills anymore in a funny thread about cookies, please feel free to clarify :drinker:7 -
So, you seem to be drawing a distinction between homemade cookies, and these cookies. Let's dig into that a bit, shall we? (I have no pre-defined agenda here: I don't eat the Lofthouse cookies, think they're gross, but I'm very laissez faire when it comes to others' choices.)
This started with your initial post being woo-ed, and you asking why. So let's approach this in a fact-based manner, since that would be a science-ish thing to do.
According to the Food Lion (grocery store) web site, these cookies have the following ingredients:Sugar, Enriched Bleached Wheat Flour (Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Margarine (Palm Oil, Water, Soybean Oil, Salt, Contains 2% or less of: Mono- & Diglycerides, Calcium Disodium EDTA [Preservative], Artificial Flavor, Annatto [Color], Vitamin A Palmitate), Eggs, Contains 2% or less of: Water, Corn Starch, Vegetable Oil (Palm Kernel Oil and/or Palm Oil and/or Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil [Cottonseed and/or Soybean Oil]), Dextrin, Skim Milk, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Leavening (Baking Soda, Sodium Aluminum Sulfate, Monocalcium Phosphate), Soy Lecithin (Emulsifier),Confectioner's Glaze (Lac Resin), Food Starch-Modified, Colors (Carmine [Color], Blue 1, Blue 1 Lake, Blue 2, Blue 2 Lake, Red 3, Red 40, Red 40 Lake, Yellow 5, Yellow 5 Lake, Yellow 6, Yellow 6 Lake), Polysorbate 60, Carnauba Wax, Sodium Propionate (Preservative).
If I were making cookies at home, most of those ingredients would be in the cookies, especially true for the ingredients at the top (more predominant ones): Sugar, flour, some kind of oil or shortening (probably a simpler one like butter, or coconut oil, because yummier), eggs, milk, leavening. I wouldn't put in artificial flavors (natural vanilla extract is yummier IMO), probably not the artificial colors (I mostly don't want colors - but if I did it would be standard commercial food coloring, which would likely be this same stuff). I certainly wouldn't put in the preservatives (gonna eat 'em or freeze 'em), carnauba wax (?!), or the Confectioners Glaze (Lac Resin) (no idea what that even is).
So, bottom line: Similar ingredients, differences in the minor items. (This might justify a "woo", in some people's minds.)
Next up, nutrition: Specifically, do they have nutritional value, or are they "masquerading as food".Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 38 g
Servings Per Container 10
Amount Per Serving
Calories 160.0 Cal
Calories From Fat 50.0 Cal
% Daily Value
Total Fat 6.0g 9.0%
Saturated Fat 2.5 g 13.0
Trans Fat 0.0 g
Cholesterol 5.0 mg 2.0
Sodium 100.0 mg4.0
Total Carbohydrate 26.0g 9.0%
Dietary Fiber 0.0 g 0.0
Sugars 16.0 g
Protein 1.0 g
Vitamin A 4.0
Vitamin C 0.0
Calcium 0.0
Iron 4.0
So, "food energy" (calories ), tiny (negligible) amount of protein, a little fat, tiny vitamin A and iron. Not great. Probably not that far off home-made, but realistically, very low nutrition for the calories, mostly sugar and carbs. They might be a truly affirmative choice for an endurance athlete who enjoyed them and needed the calories. For anyone else who enjoys them, seems like a "sometimes food".
Conclusion: Nothing in particular. Just some facts. It's just that I don't mostly enjoy rant-y emotional stuff. Facts are good.
Y'all are having some good fun, but I'm still hung up on what I bolded in that ingredients list. See, I use Carnauba wax ON MY PICKUP TRUCK
Following that logic, anything I can put into my body that passes out the other end without killing me or sickening me can be classified as food.
An abomination colored pretty pink. That's what these cookies are.
I'm going to go slug this down now. Maybe I'll have a new product to put on market shelves soon.
Seriously, that doesn't bother anyone?
According to Professor Google, carnauba is a northeastern Brazilian fan palm, the leaves of which exude a yellowish wax. So it's just palm tree juice.
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Quite keen on spaghetti bolognaise too.1 -
And chocolates.
Have we moved on and avoided thread derailing yet or should I keep posting more smilies.
I have a great link to free smilies for all occasions. 2 -
So, Marmite. How much of that good delicious protein do you like on your toast?0
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I've never had it either but heard it was bad. Or is that vegemite? I can't keep up with these foreign foods!
Can we go back to chocolate? 0 -
Not quite but very similar.0
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paperpudding wrote: »Not quite but very similar.
They are both available on Amazon and not terribly expensive, I might need to make this happen.0 -
So, you seem to be drawing a distinction between homemade cookies, and these cookies. Let's dig into that a bit, shall we? (I have no pre-defined agenda here: I don't eat the Lofthouse cookies, think they're gross, but I'm very laissez faire when it comes to others' choices.)
This started with your initial post being woo-ed, and you asking why. So let's approach this in a fact-based manner, since that would be a science-ish thing to do.
According to the Food Lion (grocery store) web site, these cookies have the following ingredients:Sugar, Enriched Bleached Wheat Flour (Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Margarine (Palm Oil, Water, Soybean Oil, Salt, Contains 2% or less of: Mono- & Diglycerides, Calcium Disodium EDTA [Preservative], Artificial Flavor, Annatto [Color], Vitamin A Palmitate), Eggs, Contains 2% or less of: Water, Corn Starch, Vegetable Oil (Palm Kernel Oil and/or Palm Oil and/or Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil [Cottonseed and/or Soybean Oil]), Dextrin, Skim Milk, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Leavening (Baking Soda, Sodium Aluminum Sulfate, Monocalcium Phosphate), Soy Lecithin (Emulsifier),Confectioner's Glaze (Lac Resin), Food Starch-Modified, Colors (Carmine [Color], Blue 1, Blue 1 Lake, Blue 2, Blue 2 Lake, Red 3, Red 40, Red 40 Lake, Yellow 5, Yellow 5 Lake, Yellow 6, Yellow 6 Lake), Polysorbate 60, Carnauba Wax, Sodium Propionate (Preservative).
If I were making cookies at home, most of those ingredients would be in the cookies, especially true for the ingredients at the top (more predominant ones): Sugar, flour, some kind of oil or shortening (probably a simpler one like butter, or coconut oil, because yummier), eggs, milk, leavening. I wouldn't put in artificial flavors (natural vanilla extract is yummier IMO), probably not the artificial colors (I mostly don't want colors - but if I did it would be standard commercial food coloring, which would likely be this same stuff). I certainly wouldn't put in the preservatives (gonna eat 'em or freeze 'em), carnauba wax (?!), or the Confectioners Glaze (Lac Resin) (no idea what that even is).
So, bottom line: Similar ingredients, differences in the minor items. (This might justify a "woo", in some people's minds.)
Next up, nutrition: Specifically, do they have nutritional value, or are they "masquerading as food".Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 38 g
Servings Per Container 10
Amount Per Serving
Calories 160.0 Cal
Calories From Fat 50.0 Cal
% Daily Value
Total Fat 6.0g 9.0%
Saturated Fat 2.5 g 13.0
Trans Fat 0.0 g
Cholesterol 5.0 mg 2.0
Sodium 100.0 mg4.0
Total Carbohydrate 26.0g 9.0%
Dietary Fiber 0.0 g 0.0
Sugars 16.0 g
Protein 1.0 g
Vitamin A 4.0
Vitamin C 0.0
Calcium 0.0
Iron 4.0
So, "food energy" (calories ), tiny (negligible) amount of protein, a little fat, tiny vitamin A and iron. Not great. Probably not that far off home-made, but realistically, very low nutrition for the calories, mostly sugar and carbs. They might be a truly affirmative choice for an endurance athlete who enjoyed them and needed the calories. For anyone else who enjoys them, seems like a "sometimes food".
Conclusion: Nothing in particular. Just some facts. It's just that I don't mostly enjoy rant-y emotional stuff. Facts are good.
Y'all are having some good fun, but I'm still hung up on what I bolded in that ingredients list. See, I use Carnauba wax ON MY PICKUP TRUCK
Following that logic, anything I can put into my body that passes out the other end without killing me or sickening me can be classified as food.
An abomination colored pretty pink. That's what these cookies are.
I'm going to go slug this down now. Maybe I'll have a new product to put on market shelves soon.
Seriously, that doesn't bother anyone?
According to Professor Google, carnauba is a northeastern Brazilian fan palm, the leaves of which exude a yellowish wax. So it's palm tree juice.
WAX! Yellow wax at that, it's the worst lol.
Ok I'm just having some fun, but I admit if I really knew what half the preservatives were in what I eat I would probably starve myself. I just saw that and it was an instant "nope" 1 -
So, you seem to be drawing a distinction between homemade cookies, and these cookies. Let's dig into that a bit, shall we? (I have no pre-defined agenda here: I don't eat the Lofthouse cookies, think they're gross, but I'm very laissez faire when it comes to others' choices.)
This started with your initial post being woo-ed, and you asking why. So let's approach this in a fact-based manner, since that would be a science-ish thing to do.
According to the Food Lion (grocery store) web site, these cookies have the following ingredients:Sugar, Enriched Bleached Wheat Flour (Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Margarine (Palm Oil, Water, Soybean Oil, Salt, Contains 2% or less of: Mono- & Diglycerides, Calcium Disodium EDTA [Preservative], Artificial Flavor, Annatto [Color], Vitamin A Palmitate), Eggs, Contains 2% or less of: Water, Corn Starch, Vegetable Oil (Palm Kernel Oil and/or Palm Oil and/or Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil [Cottonseed and/or Soybean Oil]), Dextrin, Skim Milk, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Leavening (Baking Soda, Sodium Aluminum Sulfate, Monocalcium Phosphate), Soy Lecithin (Emulsifier),Confectioner's Glaze (Lac Resin), Food Starch-Modified, Colors (Carmine [Color], Blue 1, Blue 1 Lake, Blue 2, Blue 2 Lake, Red 3, Red 40, Red 40 Lake, Yellow 5, Yellow 5 Lake, Yellow 6, Yellow 6 Lake), Polysorbate 60, Carnauba Wax, Sodium Propionate (Preservative).
If I were making cookies at home, most of those ingredients would be in the cookies, especially true for the ingredients at the top (more predominant ones): Sugar, flour, some kind of oil or shortening (probably a simpler one like butter, or coconut oil, because yummier), eggs, milk, leavening. I wouldn't put in artificial flavors (natural vanilla extract is yummier IMO), probably not the artificial colors (I mostly don't want colors - but if I did it would be standard commercial food coloring, which would likely be this same stuff). I certainly wouldn't put in the preservatives (gonna eat 'em or freeze 'em), carnauba wax (?!), or the Confectioners Glaze (Lac Resin) (no idea what that even is).
So, bottom line: Similar ingredients, differences in the minor items. (This might justify a "woo", in some people's minds.)
Next up, nutrition: Specifically, do they have nutritional value, or are they "masquerading as food".Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 38 g
Servings Per Container 10
Amount Per Serving
Calories 160.0 Cal
Calories From Fat 50.0 Cal
% Daily Value
Total Fat 6.0g 9.0%
Saturated Fat 2.5 g 13.0
Trans Fat 0.0 g
Cholesterol 5.0 mg 2.0
Sodium 100.0 mg4.0
Total Carbohydrate 26.0g 9.0%
Dietary Fiber 0.0 g 0.0
Sugars 16.0 g
Protein 1.0 g
Vitamin A 4.0
Vitamin C 0.0
Calcium 0.0
Iron 4.0
So, "food energy" (calories ), tiny (negligible) amount of protein, a little fat, tiny vitamin A and iron. Not great. Probably not that far off home-made, but realistically, very low nutrition for the calories, mostly sugar and carbs. They might be a truly affirmative choice for an endurance athlete who enjoyed them and needed the calories. For anyone else who enjoys them, seems like a "sometimes food".
Conclusion: Nothing in particular. Just some facts. It's just that I don't mostly enjoy rant-y emotional stuff. Facts are good.
Y'all are having some good fun, but I'm still hung up on what I bolded in that ingredients list. See, I use Carnauba wax ON MY PICKUP TRUCK
Following that logic, anything I can put into my body that passes out the other end without killing me or sickening me can be classified as food.
An abomination colored pretty pink. That's what these cookies are.
I'm going to go slug this down now. Maybe I'll have a new product to put on market shelves soon.
Seriously, that doesn't bother anyone?
According to Professor Google, carnauba is a northeastern Brazilian fan palm, the leaves of which exude a yellowish wax. So it's palm tree juice.
WAX! Yellow wax at that, it's the worst lol.
Ok I'm just having some fun, but I admit if I really knew what half the preservatives were in what I eat I would probably starve myself. I just saw that and it was an instant "nope"
I'm fine with yellow wax coming out of a palm leaf, rather than green snot oozing out of an okra pod.
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So, you seem to be drawing a distinction between homemade cookies, and these cookies. Let's dig into that a bit, shall we? (I have no pre-defined agenda here: I don't eat the Lofthouse cookies, think they're gross, but I'm very laissez faire when it comes to others' choices.)
This started with your initial post being woo-ed, and you asking why. So let's approach this in a fact-based manner, since that would be a science-ish thing to do.
According to the Food Lion (grocery store) web site, these cookies have the following ingredients:Sugar, Enriched Bleached Wheat Flour (Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Margarine (Palm Oil, Water, Soybean Oil, Salt, Contains 2% or less of: Mono- & Diglycerides, Calcium Disodium EDTA [Preservative], Artificial Flavor, Annatto [Color], Vitamin A Palmitate), Eggs, Contains 2% or less of: Water, Corn Starch, Vegetable Oil (Palm Kernel Oil and/or Palm Oil and/or Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil [Cottonseed and/or Soybean Oil]), Dextrin, Skim Milk, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Leavening (Baking Soda, Sodium Aluminum Sulfate, Monocalcium Phosphate), Soy Lecithin (Emulsifier),Confectioner's Glaze (Lac Resin), Food Starch-Modified, Colors (Carmine [Color], Blue 1, Blue 1 Lake, Blue 2, Blue 2 Lake, Red 3, Red 40, Red 40 Lake, Yellow 5, Yellow 5 Lake, Yellow 6, Yellow 6 Lake), Polysorbate 60, Carnauba Wax, Sodium Propionate (Preservative).
If I were making cookies at home, most of those ingredients would be in the cookies, especially true for the ingredients at the top (more predominant ones): Sugar, flour, some kind of oil or shortening (probably a simpler one like butter, or coconut oil, because yummier), eggs, milk, leavening. I wouldn't put in artificial flavors (natural vanilla extract is yummier IMO), probably not the artificial colors (I mostly don't want colors - but if I did it would be standard commercial food coloring, which would likely be this same stuff). I certainly wouldn't put in the preservatives (gonna eat 'em or freeze 'em), carnauba wax (?!), or the Confectioners Glaze (Lac Resin) (no idea what that even is).
So, bottom line: Similar ingredients, differences in the minor items. (This might justify a "woo", in some people's minds.)
Next up, nutrition: Specifically, do they have nutritional value, or are they "masquerading as food".Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 38 g
Servings Per Container 10
Amount Per Serving
Calories 160.0 Cal
Calories From Fat 50.0 Cal
% Daily Value
Total Fat 6.0g 9.0%
Saturated Fat 2.5 g 13.0
Trans Fat 0.0 g
Cholesterol 5.0 mg 2.0
Sodium 100.0 mg4.0
Total Carbohydrate 26.0g 9.0%
Dietary Fiber 0.0 g 0.0
Sugars 16.0 g
Protein 1.0 g
Vitamin A 4.0
Vitamin C 0.0
Calcium 0.0
Iron 4.0
So, "food energy" (calories ), tiny (negligible) amount of protein, a little fat, tiny vitamin A and iron. Not great. Probably not that far off home-made, but realistically, very low nutrition for the calories, mostly sugar and carbs. They might be a truly affirmative choice for an endurance athlete who enjoyed them and needed the calories. For anyone else who enjoys them, seems like a "sometimes food".
Conclusion: Nothing in particular. Just some facts. It's just that I don't mostly enjoy rant-y emotional stuff. Facts are good.
Y'all are having some good fun, but I'm still hung up on what I bolded in that ingredients list. See, I use Carnauba wax ON MY PICKUP TRUCK
Following that logic, anything I can put into my body that passes out the other end without killing me or sickening me can be classified as food.
An abomination colored pretty pink. That's what these cookies are.
I'm going to go slug this down now. Maybe I'll have a new product to put on market shelves soon.
Seriously, that doesn't bother anyone?
According to Professor Google, carnauba is a northeastern Brazilian fan palm, the leaves of which exude a yellowish wax. So it's palm tree juice.
WAX! Yellow wax at that, it's the worst lol.
Ok I'm just having some fun, but I admit if I really knew what half the preservatives were in what I eat I would probably starve myself. I just saw that and it was an instant "nope"
I'm fine with yellow wax coming out of a palm leaf, rather than green snot oozing out of an okra pod.
Thanks for the mental image 1 -
I love white chocolate. Funny thing is it really looks like it could be made out of Carnauba Car Wax lol.2 -
Is that true? Er....about the not chocolate part. No wonder I'm picky about it.
I'm also picky about my dark chocolate. I only can tolerate Sees and Hersheys. It's milk chocolate for me all the way tho.0
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