January 2020 Monthly Running Challenge
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Camaramandy648 wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
For a best pace 12:00 in a 5 k the chart shows that your marathon pace would be 13:51.
Training run paces as follows
Recovery run between 14:06 and 15:05
Easy run between 13:23 and 14:01
Long run between 13:25 and 14:24
Tempo run between 12:03 and 12:26
@emmamcgarity so I’m actually doing all right!?!?!?
@PastorVincent I think you’re right and I think wisdom on this is to trust people in this forum (including @emmamcgarity ) who actually know a lot more than me.
So for now I’ll just focus on running the miles.
My sister who hates running texted me with a bunch of running questions today 😎😎😎
@loveychar YOU DID IT!!!!!!!!! How did it go? What did you like best for fuel? I’m so happy for you!
Thank you! I only had GU at the time, but I bought some Sport Beans tonight. I'll try them next long run.0 -
@kgirlhart Hope you continue to feel better every day.
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quilteryoyo wrote: »@ContraryMaryMary Hope your slower run went well. I too love your windows. Prayers for you and your fellow Aussie's. I hope you all stay safe! It's so scary.
What's terrifying about my photo is that I'm not in Australia - I'm in New Zealand, over 2000km away. Thats like being in Houston and seeing smoke from Toronto, or being in England and seeing smoke from the Ukraine. That's how big the fires are. The scale is staggering.
Everyone thinks NZ and Aus are close. Geographically we're not. However, relatively speaking we are. Technically, they're the country next door, but there's absolutely nothing else down this end of the planet. We're next door to a whole lotta water.
People ask if there's a bridge between NZ and Aus (and if not, why not) or if people can swim from one to the other. Shortest trip is a three hour flight. Yachts take 10-15 days to make the trip. A nutter rowed the distance in 1977, it took two months. Others have died trying. The second successful attempt was in 2008 - two guys in a custom built kayak. Still took them two months.
Here endeth the geography lesson.
PS. Pray for rain or think soggy thoughts depending on where you lie in the belief scale.17 -
Jan 1 2.5 kms (treadmill)
Jan 2 2.5 kms (treadmill)
Jan 4 2.5 kms (jogged fully instead of walking in between, so yay. And not treadmill)
Jan 5 2.7 kms on the treadmill.7 -
Camaramandy648 wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
For a best pace 12:00 in a 5 k the chart shows that your marathon pace would be 13:51.
Training run paces as follows
Recovery run between 14:06 and 15:05
Easy run between 13:23 and 14:01
Long run between 13:25 and 14:24
Tempo run between 12:03 and 12:26
@emmamcgarity so I’m actually doing all right!?!?!?
@PastorVincent I think you’re right and I think wisdom on this is to trust people in this forum (including @emmamcgarity ) who actually know a lot more than me.
So for now I’ll just focus on running the miles.
My sister who hates running texted me with a bunch of running questions today 😎😎😎
@loveychar YOU DID IT!!!!!!!!! How did it go? What did you like best for fuel? I’m so happy for you!
Can I ask, what's the reason for jumping straight to a marathon?
It's a nit more typical to build up, a 5k first, then maybe a 10. Definitely throw in a half marathon.
A marathon is more than just twice the length of a half. It's a full on, take over your life for months, endurance both physical but mostly mental, challenge.
I think its amazing that you are doing it, but it's not common, or advised, to go from zero to a marathon. Especially in 4 months.
I work for a school district where every year I run a 5k Fun Run, but it's never been a challenge for me. This past spring, I came home after a long run and told my husband I was signing up for a half marathon and he asked, "Why a half, why not a whole? You could do a whole... you're the strongest, most determined woman I know..." And bam, he got me and I signed up on July 13th of last year! Then his brother signed up to run with me. The 5k's are fun. I enjoy them but they're a celebratory kickoff to the school year and we all get crazy and dance in the parking lot beforehand. Many of us bring our families. I suppose if I treated it as a race it wouldn't be so fun but I like the endurance aspect of running more than the actual speed aspect.4 -
PastorVincent wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
For a best pace 12:00 in a 5 k the chart shows that your marathon pace would be 13:51.
Training run paces as follows
Recovery run between 14:06 and 15:05
Easy run between 13:23 and 14:01
Long run between 13:25 and 14:24
Tempo run between 12:03 and 12:26
@emmamcgarity so I’m actually doing all right!?!?!?
@PastorVincent I think you’re right and I think wisdom on this is to trust people in this forum (including @emmamcgarity ) who actually know a lot more than me.
I think you are doing great! I’m still relatively new having only started running a year ago. But it appears you are on track according to the pace chart from my run club. I used the same pace chart to predict my 5k time after taking that running class thus Fall and it was pretty accurate. Every time I try to do more than my body is ready for I get injured.
You ARE doing great @Camaramandy648... and I, like @emmamcgarity , think you will finish ahead of a 6 hour cut off.
HOWEVER, IF YOU DO NOT - you might get a DNF on their website, but who cares? If you complete the distance, you completed the distance. Seriously. You can say "I completed a marathon in 6.5 hours" or whatever and it will be 100% valid.
Stick with your training and go for it. Push too hard and you will get injured and that will stink. So do not do that. That is all the wisdom you really need
Austin Marathon is a seven hour limit (16 minute miles) 5 hours for half. I don't know what the standard is.0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
For a best pace 12:00 in a 5 k the chart shows that your marathon pace would be 13:51.
Training run paces as follows
Recovery run between 14:06 and 15:05
Easy run between 13:23 and 14:01
Long run between 13:25 and 14:24
Tempo run between 12:03 and 12:26
@emmamcgarity so I’m actually doing all right!?!?!?
@PastorVincent I think you’re right and I think wisdom on this is to trust people in this forum (including @emmamcgarity ) who actually know a lot more than me.
I think you are doing great! I’m still relatively new having only started running a year ago. But it appears you are on track according to the pace chart from my run club. I used the same pace chart to predict my 5k time after taking that running class thus Fall and it was pretty accurate. Every time I try to do more than my body is ready for I get injured.
You ARE doing great @Camaramandy648... and I, like @emmamcgarity , think you will finish ahead of a 6 hour cut off.
HOWEVER, IF YOU DO NOT - you might get a DNF on their website, but who cares? If you complete the distance, you completed the distance. Seriously. You can say "I completed a marathon in 6.5 hours" or whatever and it will be 100% valid.
Stick with your training and go for it. Push too hard and you will get injured and that will stink. So do not do that. That is all the wisdom you really need
Austin Marathon is a seven hour limit (16 minute miles) 5 hours for half. I don't know what the standard is.
6 or 7 is typical from what I have seen. @Camaramandy648 I believe said this marathon was 6 hours.3 -
@ContraryMaryMary @Avidkeo
Hi, yes, we've had some smoky days.
The fires nearest us are about 50-70 km away, in National Parks.
Often we hear small planes fly over us that do the spotting/mapping.
Further south, there are bigger bombers that do repeated one-hour, 500 km round trips to refill with water & flame retardant. It costs half a million dollars each time.
A lot of people on social media are angry at the Prime Minister or the party in power.
It's a scary thing, and deep down, we all feel ashamed we can't or don't do something ourselves.
For every firefighter, there are 3 people working to support them.13 -
Can I ask, what's the reason for jumping straight to a marathon?
It's a nit more typical to build up, a 5k first, then maybe a 10. Definitely throw in a half marathon.
A marathon is more than just twice the length of a half. It's a full on, take over your life for months, endurance both physical but mostly mental, challenge.
I think its amazing that you are doing it, but it's not common, or advised, to go from zero to a marathon. Especially in 4 months.I work for a school district where every year I run a 5k Fun Run, but it's never been a challenge for me. This past spring, I came home after a long run and told my husband I was signing up for a half marathon and he asked, "Why a half, why not a whole? You could do a whole... you're the strongest, most determined woman I know..." And bam, he got me and I signed up on July 13th of last year! Then his brother signed up to run with me. The 5k's are fun. I enjoy them but they're a celebratory kickoff to the school year and we all get crazy and dance in the parking lot beforehand. Many of us bring our families. I suppose if I treated it as a race it wouldn't be so fun but I like the endurance aspect of running more than the actual speed aspect.
@Avidkeo question is a good one. Everyone looking at that kind of distance should stop and consider the commitment, it is likely bigger than most realize. Like way bigger.
It is a ton of work to run a marathon no matter what path you take to get there. You have to put the work in. Whether or not those miles are in races or training does not really matter. Some people use races as training runs, some people run a full as their first race. As long as you put in the work and time it matters not.
We sometimes get this idea that race miles are magic miles, but really if your goal is full then every 5k and 10k, and so on race is just another training run. Are there things you can learn from races? Sure. Would I recommend a new runner do some to get the feel for the race environment? Sure, but they are not special miles. They are just miles.
Let me be clear:
There is no short cut. To run a full marathon you have to run 100s of miles (likely well north of 500 miles), of which the only last 26.2 are timed. Many of those miles will REALLY SUCK. Some days you will be like OMG WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS I THINKING?!?! THIS IS THE WORSTEST EVER! For most though, crossing the finish line will erase all of that and we will sign up again within 48 hours.
Not everyone though. Some people one and done it cause they decide it is not for them. This too is good.
Each of us finds our own path in this sport, the path that works for us. To me, that is one of the greatest benefits of this as a sport. Your path and mine do not have to be remotely alike, and yet we are together moving.
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This is my "light introduction week"
Reminder: The goal is BQ in the Spring of 2021 and PR at Pittsburgh in May 2020
DAY :: PLAN :: ACTUAL
Monday :: REST :: REST
Tuesday :: Easy 8 Miles :: Easy 10 Miles
Wednesday :: REST :: REST
Thursday :: Easy 9 Miles :: Easy 10 Miles
Friday :: REST :: REST
Saturday :: Easy 11 Miles :: Easy 11 Miles
Sunday :: Recovery 5 Miles :: 5 miles Dreadmill, 5% grade 9:30 pace.9 -
PastorVincent wrote: »
Can I ask, what's the reason for jumping straight to a marathon?
It's a nit more typical to build up, a 5k first, then maybe a 10. Definitely throw in a half marathon.
A marathon is more than just twice the length of a half. It's a full on, take over your life for months, endurance both physical but mostly mental, challenge.
I think its amazing that you are doing it, but it's not common, or advised, to go from zero to a marathon. Especially in 4 months.I work for a school district where every year I run a 5k Fun Run, but it's never been a challenge for me. This past spring, I came home after a long run and told my husband I was signing up for a half marathon and he asked, "Why a half, why not a whole? You could do a whole... you're the strongest, most determined woman I know..." And bam, he got me and I signed up on July 13th of last year! Then his brother signed up to run with me. The 5k's are fun. I enjoy them but they're a celebratory kickoff to the school year and we all get crazy and dance in the parking lot beforehand. Many of us bring our families. I suppose if I treated it as a race it wouldn't be so fun but I like the endurance aspect of running more than the actual speed aspect.
@Avidkeo question is a good one. Everyone looking at that kind of distance should stop and consider the commitment, it is likely bigger than most realize. Like way bigger.
It is a ton of work to run a marathon no matter what path you take to get there. You have to put the work in. Whether or not those miles are in races or training does not really matter. Some people use races as training runs, some people run a full as their first race. As long as you put in the work and time it matters not.
We sometimes get this idea that race miles are magic miles, but really if your goal is full then every 5k and 10k, and so on race is just another training run. Are there things you can learn from races? Sure. Would I recommend a new runner do some to get the feel for the race environment? Sure, but they are not special miles. They are just miles.
Let me be clear:
There is no short cut. To run a full marathon you have to run 100s of miles (likely well north of 500 miles), of which the only last 26.2 are timed. Many of those miles will REALLY SUCK. Some days you will be like OMG WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS I THINKING?!?! THIS IS THE WORSTEST EVER! For most though, crossing the finish line will erase all of that and we will sign up again within 48 hours.
Not everyone though. Some people one and done it cause they decide it is not for them. This too is good.
Each of us finds our own path in this sport, the path that works for us. To me, that is one of the greatest benefits of this as a sport. Your path and mine do not have to be remotely alike, and yet we are together moving.
Thanks @PastorVincent. Every single word he said is true. @LoveyChar you sound relatively ready having done a few 5ks and yours isn't for 6 months. My question was mostly directed at @Camaramandy648, I want to reiterate I think anyone training for a marathon, half marathon, 10, 5 or even 2 k are amazing! Running is such a mental challenge first, Physical second, and a marathon is more like 4 times harder than a half, not twice as hard (I've been told lol). I just wonder at the wisdom at jumping from being just finishing 5k,to running a full marathon in 4 months. Most people would advise doing a few shorter distances first and do a full after more like 6 months of training. The biggest concern is causing an injury that would stop you running for a while.
However as PastorVincent said, if your goal is to just finish and don't care about all the timing etc, then you go for it! I did a half marathon about 8 years ago and all I cared about was crossing that finish line. It's on a public street so they can't stop you from continuing to run, even if they've taken everything down.
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Oh yeah I didn't report in this morning.
So garmin thinks I could do better bahaha
I was doing a tempo run, and yeah even I admit I struggled to stick to an even pace. Too many hills lol. But I got out and did 6.3k after the 9k yesterday so take that Garmin!
Spent almost all day on my feet, I wore running shoes and the pain is definitely reducing in my leg, so that pretty much confirms its my walking shoes causing issues. I'm going to get new running shoes no matter what in 2 weeks so will rotate one of my current pairs to work shoes.
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Jan - goal 80k
Jan 1 - 2k
Jan 2 - 3k
Jan 3 - 6k
Jan 4 - 3k
Jan 5 - 9k
Jan 6 - 6.3k
Total: 29.3k
Run streak - 17 days9 -
katharmonic wrote: »@Camaramandy648 way to gut it out for your 14 mile run. Hope your new shoes really help, sounds like they should. My coach is always driving home the point not to worry about pace. Pace will come, but the key is consistency. If you are getting out there and doing it consistently, your pace will improve. You've got this.
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PastorVincent wrote: »
Can I ask, what's the reason for jumping straight to a marathon?
It's a nit more typical to build up, a 5k first, then maybe a 10. Definitely throw in a half marathon.
A marathon is more than just twice the length of a half. It's a full on, take over your life for months, endurance both physical but mostly mental, challenge.
I think its amazing that you are doing it, but it's not common, or advised, to go from zero to a marathon. Especially in 4 months.I work for a school district where every year I run a 5k Fun Run, but it's never been a challenge for me. This past spring, I came home after a long run and told my husband I was signing up for a half marathon and he asked, "Why a half, why not a whole? You could do a whole... you're the strongest, most determined woman I know..." And bam, he got me and I signed up on July 13th of last year! Then his brother signed up to run with me. The 5k's are fun. I enjoy them but they're a celebratory kickoff to the school year and we all get crazy and dance in the parking lot beforehand. Many of us bring our families. I suppose if I treated it as a race it wouldn't be so fun but I like the endurance aspect of running more than the actual speed aspect.
@Avidkeo question is a good one. Everyone looking at that kind of distance should stop and consider the commitment, it is likely bigger than most realize. Like way bigger.
It is a ton of work to run a marathon no matter what path you take to get there. You have to put the work in. Whether or not those miles are in races or training does not really matter. Some people use races as training runs, some people run a full as their first race. As long as you put in the work and time it matters not.
We sometimes get this idea that race miles are magic miles, but really if your goal is full then every 5k and 10k, and so on race is just another training run. Are there things you can learn from races? Sure. Would I recommend a new runner do some to get the feel for the race environment? Sure, but they are not special miles. They are just miles.
Let me be clear:
There is no short cut. To run a full marathon you have to run 100s of miles (likely well north of 500 miles), of which the only last 26.2 are timed. Many of those miles will REALLY SUCK. Some days you will be like OMG WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS I THINKING?!?! THIS IS THE WORSTEST EVER! For most though, crossing the finish line will erase all of that and we will sign up again within 48 hours.
Not everyone though. Some people one and done it cause they decide it is not for them. This too is good.
Each of us finds our own path in this sport, the path that works for us. To me, that is one of the greatest benefits of this as a sport. Your path and mine do not have to be remotely alike, and yet we are together moving.
My daughters watched me walk for my diploma after I quit college 3 times in my life and I did really well on the final round; I graduated with a GPA that I was really proud of and it's a beautiful, irreplaceable feeling.
I was in labor with my son for 19 long, miserable hours and in essence he was being strangled by every contraction because the cord was wrapped around his neck. Twice my blood pressure dropped to critically low levels and twice I was revived by a stick to the arm from an anesthesiologist rushing into my room (nurses and doctors were watching on monitors outside of our room); I had no idea it dropped. I just remember both times feeling an unbelievable peace and I drifted off in only a matter of seconds. I fought a c-section. I was beyond exhausted... Then after the baby's heartbeat dropped down to nearly non-existent, anesthesiologists, nurses, and other support staff rushed the room and began prepping me. It was like everything you would see in a movie. Then I was rushed down the hall at what seemed like lightning speed and into a bright operating room and I had my gut cut open. It's totally different when you have a planned c-section. This was terrifying. I never in my life prayed harder. I was fine with dying as long as my baby didn't. Then he was born, cord around his neck. I saw him for a split second and he screamed the most beautiful cry and was handed off to NICU nurses. He was perfect and fine. Then I was stitched up and wheeled back to my room where they put him in my arms. He is my miracle. After that, my husband kept saying to him, "Your momma is one tough lady." Recovery? My husband would catch me up doing something and tell me to go lay down and I'd get furious. I couldn't give up and if it was a knock down, I got up on my feet. Doctor told me damage was done to my bladder whether in delivery or during surgery, they don't know. I healed and I feel great and I love life. But what I do know is that if in any way I fall or get knocked down, I'll get back up a little harder and stronger. Even if I fall on my face in this marathon, you can bet your you know what that I'll be back and fired up times 100. If something happens in this marathon that I can't finish, I'll be signing up for the next one and the next one and the next one after that. And I think running a marathon would be easier than some of the hell I've been through...what doesn't kill you makes you...
Lastly, even if I complain a little bit, I'm still very proud of this. I'm out there pounding pavement almost every single day. Even on days like today, I'm proud because I know now what I can do and I know I'll continue to push limits. Yep, guess what?!? I put 18.2 miles on these feet today! I am so proud of this!!! In two weeks from today, I'll shoot for 20!
@PastorVincent I'm going to screenshot this (your words)! I'm putting it in my scrapbook, if you don't mind.10 -
@Camaramandy648 - every race is different on how they handle the cutoff. I have yet to be at a race where they DNF'd if you missed the cutoff by under an hour. It really depends on the Race Director and the city or municipality and how they handle it. At this point though I wouldn't be worrying too much about that. Get the time in running and/or walking. Your pace will improve but as @PastorVincent said you need the time on your feet, the endurance to get you through.
Other than @orphia I am not sure that we have anyone else in Australia as part of the group. I do hope that you and your family and friends are safe. The fires are just terrible and I hope they find a way to get them under control. Having experienced similar here but not on such a huge scale, they are terrifying! My daughter was in AU visiting friends in Perth and Sydney and couldn't believe how bad it was. She is in NZ now but heading home via Sydney in a couple of days.
Had a pretty good run today. Initially it felt great to be out mostly because nothing hurt until my legs started complaining about having to run. It really didn't feel good until somewhere around mile 3 which was my fastest mile. It was lovely out if a bit warm, mid to high 60's, but better than the 75F of the other day. I did spend a bit chatting with a friend before making the final mile home and that bit of being stationary made me very stiff for running that last mile but we got it done. Not sure about my run tomorrow. May have to hit the treadmill at the gym as we are supposed to get very high winds with gusts in the 70-80 mph range! Yikes! Oh and I saw the Goodyear Blimp today. Not sure why it was up today but it was pretty cool to see it motoring about.Date........Miles.......Total
01/01......0.00........0.00
01/02......4.60........4.60
01/03......5.35........9.95
01/04......0.00........9.95
01/05......8.05......18.00
2020 Run the Year Team - 2020 R.I.O.T. (Running Is Our Therapy) 18.00/1000 miles
2020 Planned and Completed Races
02/02/20 - Surf City Half Marathon8 -
Camaramandy648 wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
For a best pace 12:00 in a 5 k the chart shows that your marathon pace would be 13:51.
Training run paces as follows
Recovery run between 14:06 and 15:05
Easy run between 13:23 and 14:01
Long run between 13:25 and 14:24
Tempo run between 12:03 and 12:26
@emmamcgarity so I’m actually doing all right!?!?!?
@PastorVincent I think you’re right and I think wisdom on this is to trust people in this forum (including @emmamcgarity ) who actually know a lot more than me.
So for now I’ll just focus on running the miles.
My sister who hates running texted me with a bunch of running questions today 😎😎😎
@loveychar YOU DID IT!!!!!!!!! How did it go? What did you like best for fuel? I’m so happy for you!
Can I ask, what's the reason for jumping straight to a marathon?
It's a nit more typical to build up, a 5k first, then maybe a 10. Definitely throw in a half marathon.
A marathon is more than just twice the length of a half. It's a full on, take over your life for months, endurance both physical but mostly mental, challenge.
I think its amazing that you are doing it, but it's not common, or advised, to go from zero to a marathon. Especially in 4 months.
Now you tell me - I've signed up so I'm committed to this one!
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Fantastic pace @quilteryoyo and I am sure there is more to come!
I feel humbled to be on this journey with you @LoveyChar and with @Camaramandy648 there are 3 of us marathon novices going for this together. Mine is April 19th. I couldn't run across the road when I started in July 2019. I completed C2K in October, ran my first 10k the same month and my first half marathon in the November and all at pretty much the same pace of 10:30-11:00 per mile. I am not special, I am determined.
From my journey so far the advice given is so right. When I started I was running at 12 minutes a mile, yesterday averaged 9:47 per mile for 10k. Admittedly today my thighs are telling me that was a little quick so extra stretches needed. I NEVER push myself for pace, never sprint finish, just do the miles and let my body go at whatever pace it says it can do.
I had one injury as I was an idiot and didn't do any warm up or stretches as I was short on time. Well that 15 minutes cost me 3 weeks out in December with shin splints and now I am well behind my training plan. I am doing RED January with some people at work. I am not totally convinced on skipping rest days but I am alternating shorter runs between mid and long runs where the rest days should be.
Really pleased to be sharing this journey with you7 -
Good morning all, hoping to join in!
I'm Amy from UK, tentatively getting back into running since having my daughter 9 weeks ago. This time last year I was running 10 miles at a time easily, right now I can run 0.8 of a mile before walking (still completing 3 miles at run/walk).
My goal in January is simply to get out twice a week running and to get back to running 1.5 miles straight before walking. No distance setting yet
I'm on the waiting list for a trail marathon in June so that is my 6 month goal!15 -
@PastorVincent I'm going to screenshot this (your words)! I'm putting it in my scrapbook, if you don't mind.
If it helps you, absolutely go ahead.
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@LoveyChar I am sorry to hear about all you went through. You really are a strong woman to have survived all that!3
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