Coronavirus prep
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cosmiqrecovery wrote: »my dad went back to the hospital yesterday. treatment stopped working, breathing trouble started back up, had to get another nebulizer and stronger pneumonia medicine. he specifically asked the doctor to test him for covid19. doctor told him he couldn't test him because he "didn't qualify." a few minutes later after the doctor leaves a nurse comes in and says that the doctor's lying, they just don't have any test kits. this isn't some backwater clinic, this is a major university hospital we're talking about here, and they have zero way of testing for this thing even if they wanted to. i visited him last weekend after they told him he had a non-contagious infection, and about five days later, surprise! i'm feeling feverish. great healthcare system we got going here.
Sorry to hear about your dad
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This is good:
"Illinois has gotten a federal waiver allowing schools that may be closed for coronavirus precautions to provide food to students outside of a group setting. The Illinois State Board of Education learned Thursday afternoon the waiver had been granted, a spokeswoman said.
In many school districts, students rely on free breakfast and lunch provided through a federal program. More than three-quarters of Chicago Public Schools students are considered economically disadvantaged, according to CPS, meaning they would have qualified for free or reduced price lunch before the meals became free to all students under a federal provision that provides the two meals for all students in locations where more than 40% qualify.
While schools can use the USDA’s summer meal programs to continue providing free meals during unexpected closures, the food legally has to be served in a group setting known as “congregate feeding.” But that would defeat the purpose of closing schools to prevent spread of the coronavirus by “social distancing.”
Only in public health emergencies does USDA have the authority to waive this requirement, and during a hearing this week, U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue said the USDA can only grant waivers on a case-by-case basis at the request of individual states. However, Perdue said the USDA will grant any request.
“If you ask we are going to say yes,” Perdue said. “We are essentially saying we just have fulfill that requirement by being asked, but the answer is yes.”
States can also request waivers of other requirements."9 -
JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Luckily to not infected https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-19-found-in-toilet-paper/
Just for emphasis:
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This is good:
"Illinois has gotten a federal waiver allowing schools that may be closed for coronavirus precautions to provide food to students outside of a group setting. The Illinois State Board of Education learned Thursday afternoon the waiver had been granted, a spokeswoman said.
In many school districts, students rely on free breakfast and lunch provided through a federal program. More than three-quarters of Chicago Public Schools students are considered economically disadvantaged, according to CPS, meaning they would have qualified for free or reduced price lunch before the meals became free to all students under a federal provision that provides the two meals for all students in locations where more than 40% qualify.
While schools can use the USDA’s summer meal programs to continue providing free meals during unexpected closures, the food legally has to be served in a group setting known as “congregate feeding.” But that would defeat the purpose of closing schools to prevent spread of the coronavirus by “social distancing.”
Only in public health emergencies does USDA have the authority to waive this requirement, and during a hearing this week, U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue said the USDA can only grant waivers on a case-by-case basis at the request of individual states. However, Perdue said the USDA will grant any request.
“If you ask we are going to say yes,” Perdue said. “We are essentially saying we just have fulfill that requirement by being asked, but the answer is yes.”
States can also request waivers of other requirements."
I've been wondering about this situation. Thanks for sharing.1 -
cosmiqrecovery wrote: »my dad went back to the hospital yesterday. treatment stopped working, breathing trouble started back up, had to get another nebulizer and stronger pneumonia medicine. he specifically asked the doctor to test him for covid19. doctor told him he couldn't test him because he "didn't qualify." a few minutes later after the doctor leaves a nurse comes in and says that the doctor's lying, they just don't have any test kits. this isn't some backwater clinic, this is a major university hospital we're talking about here, and they have zero way of testing for this thing even if they wanted to. i visited him last weekend after they told him he had a non-contagious infection, and about five days later, surprise! i'm feeling feverish. great healthcare system we got going here.
Sorry your dad is going through that.
But maybe it explains why Gobert was tested for flu, strep, whatever in Utah, but when they all came back negative, wasn’t tested for corona, but then was tested when he hit Oklahoma. Also hints that now, after testing the 58 basketball players, Oklahoma may not have enough tests to go around, either.4 -
I went to brunch at a small local restaurant, here in California last Monday and yesterday, Wednesday I developed a mild-ish sore throat. This morning woke up and still had it. No fever, but feeling rather tired. I called my Doc to find out if I could be tested and then heard that for regular people like me there are no test available. Doc's office called back and said test is only available for people with severe symptoms. So I plan to stay home, rest, and drink plenty of hot tea. Easy for me to do as I'm retired. I'm in good health and exercise regularly but at 74, it's concerning.
Hubs and I are well stocked up on food and I'm trying to stay as far away from him as I can. Offered to sleep in a different bedroom for now but he wouldn't hear of it. But I'm not coughing much and hoping that if this is CV that it's a mild case.
I have a feeling that CV is much more prevalent then most people realize. So please do yourself a favor. Don't go anywhere that isn't absolutely necessary. Will try to keep you posted about my progress or lack there of.
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snowflake954 wrote: »corinasue1143 wrote: »
Here is their definition: "Mass gathering" means any public or private gathering that brings together one hundred (100) or more individuals in a single room or connected space in close proximity to one another, such as an auditorium, stadium, arena, large conference room, meeting hall, theaters, or any other confined indoor or outdoor space, but does not include normal operations at airports, on other forms of transit, shopping malls, or other spaces where 100 or more individuals may be in transit. "Mass gathering" does not include family gatherings such as weddings or funerals, shelters, retail stores or grocery stores, typical office environments, businesses, courthouses, restaurants and bars, correctional and detention facilities, schools and educational institutions, hospitals, clinics, nursing homes, and other health care and congregate care facilities, and places of worship operating during "normal business hours."
So no, it's basically just targeting special events. But I wonder if that will change.
It will--logic.
I assume a lot of those exemptions will change but I don't know if that will be done at the state level, more locally, or by each business/facility individually.0 -
Where do bidets fall on the civilisation continuum? I'm thinking bidet > toilet paper > newspaper > corncobs (but really, isn't anything beyond poison oak/ivy/sumac greater than a corncob??)@earlnabby Having an issue isolating the quote, but your comment made me think of this:
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/the-psychology-behind-why-toilet-paper-of-all-things-is/article_277db5d4-6255-11ea-a9a5-cb183ea659db.html
That was interesting. Still didn't answer the question of why toilet paper. This is not a new thing as those of us who live in the frozen north know well.
I just figure it's one of those things that separates us from the animals.
I think somebody else mentioned that early on in the thread... it's the mark of civilized society. 
I want the things they have at the hospital for after you give birth (water wands?)! Is that similar to how a bidet works?
Corncobs baffle me... who first looked at those and thought, "You know what that would be good for?"
Too bad Waterpiks put out such a small stream.9 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »cosmiqrecovery wrote: »my dad went back to the hospital yesterday. treatment stopped working, breathing trouble started back up, had to get another nebulizer and stronger pneumonia medicine. he specifically asked the doctor to test him for covid19. doctor told him he couldn't test him because he "didn't qualify." a few minutes later after the doctor leaves a nurse comes in and says that the doctor's lying, they just don't have any test kits. this isn't some backwater clinic, this is a major university hospital we're talking about here, and they have zero way of testing for this thing even if they wanted to. i visited him last weekend after they told him he had a non-contagious infection, and about five days later, surprise! i'm feeling feverish. great healthcare system we got going here.
Sorry your dad is going through that.
But maybe it explains why Gobert was tested for flu, strep, whatever in Utah, but when they all came back negative, wasn’t tested for corona, but then was tested when he hit Oklahoma. Also hints that now, after testing the basketball players, Oklahoma may not have enough tests to go around, either.
thanks, yeah if a mid-sized city only has enough test kits to get through two basketball teams... man, i don't even know what to say to that. can't imagine what our infection numbers would be if we were testing at the rates of south korea or china.5 -
foreverslim1111 wrote: »I went to brunch at a small local restaurant, here in California last Monday and yesterday, Wednesday I developed a mild-ish sore throat. This morning woke up and still had it. No fever, but feeling rather tired. I called my Doc to find out if I could be tested and then heard that for regular people like me there are no test available. Doc's office called back and said test is only available for people with severe symptoms. So I plan to stay home, rest, and drink plenty of hot tea. Easy for me to do as I'm retired. I'm in good health and exercise regularly but at 74, it's concerning.
Hubs and I are well stocked up on food and I'm trying to stay as far away from him as I can. Offered to sleep in a different bedroom for now but he wouldn't hear of it. But I'm not coughing much and hoping that if this is CV that it's a mild case.
I have a feeling that CV is much more prevalent then most people realize. So please do yourself a favor. Don't go anywhere that isn't absolutely necessary. Will try to keep you posted about my progress or lack there of.
that's so sweet about your husband. my fiance's the same way, very much an "if i die i die" mentality (which is probably easier for an almost-30-year-old to say). i hope it's just a cold or something mild for you.
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foreverslim1111 wrote: »Hubs and I are well stocked up on food and I'm trying to stay as far away from him as I can. Offered to sleep in a different bedroom for now but he wouldn't hear of it. But I'm not coughing much and hoping that if this is CV that it's a mild case.
I have a feeling that CV is much more prevalent then most people realize. So please do yourself a favor. Don't go anywhere that isn't absolutely necessary. Will try to keep you posted about my progress or lack there of.
I absolutely agree with this, I'm very sceptical of the numbers. Here in the UK the Chief Scientific Officer was talking about this today.
590 cases identified but the real number 'is likely to be much higher', probably between 5000 and 10 000.
The same is likely to be true everywhere else, even in places where there are tests available people with mild symptoms are probably not asking for them.
Probably best to assume it's not far away and take whatever measures you can.
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kshama2001 wrote: »JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Luckily to not infected https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-19-found-in-toilet-paper/
Just for emphasis:
https://bit.ly/2TJORqg
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I hope everyone that was unable to purchase toilet paper, bought extra trash bags for whatever else that they'll be wiping with.2
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Just saw Governor Newsom is banning gatherings of more than 250 people.
My daughter and son in law live in San Francisco with my two grandkids. She texted last night they won't be visiting until things settle down because my husband and I are in a higher risk group (we'll be 70 this year). They're pulling the kids out of school ahead of inevitable closures and both are so fortunate that they can work from home.
I told my 91 year old dad the same thing, and I'm worried for his mental as well as physical health. He is very active and social, he goes to mass twice a week, the gym three times, organizes a senior bus trip twice a month and on and on. I dont know how he'll cope when he has to self isolate.
I hadn't thought about the mental and emotional health risks to people who are used to being social, as well as the actual physical risk of becoming sick. It seems to me that the stress would make some people even more vulnerable.
Does your Father've a computer, might he video chat with you and/or others?0 -
San Francisco school district just closed schools for three weeks.
And standing in line at Safeway (don't judge, I'm legit out of milk. I stocked up on TP last week), I saw this gem.
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bmeadows380 wrote: »I picked up supplies to learn how to make my own laundry soap and already soap bars ready to go as well as a mostly full bottle that I had from before that so I'm good on laundry soap.
But this does have me thinking of stocking up on a few things now, such as cleaning supplies and cat food before it gets here.
I do have the option from working at home if it comes to my area though it can be a little difficult if I need a print or something from the office. And I've found it to be distracting.
What does frustrate me is that my company expects us to use vacation time and didn't offer sick leave until you've been out 5 business days. I'm hoping that catching this will still be covered under our short term disability plan if I catch it but am not sick enough to be hospitalized. The company pays for the short term disability insurance but didn't give us a list of what qualifies. With the long length of time that this thing incubates and it takes to get over it, it's definitely going to stretch sick leave plans for those who are lucky enough to have them. I feel really bad for the people who don't have them or work for businesses that could be forced to close temporarily and leave their employees without an income during that period.
How long are those who have it expected to quarantine?
It seems that businesses that've to close're letting go, of their employees altogether. I believe instead that they should've insurance, to cover their income.1 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »Just saw Governor Newsom is banning gatherings of more than 250 people.
My daughter and son in law live in San Francisco with my two grandkids. She texted last night they won't be visiting until things settle down because my husband and I are in a higher risk group (we'll be 70 this year). They're pulling the kids out of school ahead of inevitable closures and both are so fortunate that they can work from home.
I told my 91 year old dad the same thing, and I'm worried for his mental as well as physical health. He is very active and social, he goes to mass twice a week, the gym three times, organizes a senior bus trip twice a month and on and on. I dont know how he'll cope when he has to self isolate.
I hadn't thought about the mental and emotional health risks to people who are used to being social, as well as the actual physical risk of becoming sick. It seems to me that the stress would make some people even more vulnerable.
Does your Father've a computer, might he video chat with you and/or others?
Yes, he's actually on facebook. I'm really glad I got him on board to stay in touch with the grands (and great-grands 😊).1 -
Getting tons of emails from companies reassuring customers.
Walgreens y Denny’s
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JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Getting tons of emails from companies reassuring customers.
Walgreens y Denny’s
Yes, I think I've got an email like that from all the companies that have my email address - banks, insurance, super market, etc.1 -
I got one from my Daughter school she graduated years ago!
I’m getting flooded with them from dentist offices to even some company that I think was spam so that makes sense.
Getting harder to find my purchase receipt 🧾 to family emails with it all0 -
I chose not to cancel, my apartment complex activities because most imperatively, there's food there. Being hypoglycemic, I've to prepare for potential food insecurity due to panic shopping especially since this' occurring, even without there being a quarantine yet. I ate a sandwich there & took 1 home. That's 2 meals, that I've easy access to obtaining & that aren't coming, via my pocket currently. Also there's only approximately 10 people that attend the events, thereby it's easy to ensure that everyone's being sanitary.5
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They just cancelled my first cycling event at the end of March (Livermore CA)😔 The one at the end of April in Chico is still on but who knows for how long.
Entry fees for both rides mostly go to the community, so I won't take advantage of refunds if offered. I'm hoping these kinds of precautions will slow the spread and help keep our health infrastructure strong.
That's noble of you, not to take unnecessary advantage! 2 -
Where do bidets fall on the civilisation continuum? I'm thinking bidet > toilet paper > newspaper > corncobs (but really, isn't anything beyond poison oak/ivy/sumac greater than a corncob??)@earlnabby Having an issue isolating the quote, but your comment made me think of this:
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/the-psychology-behind-why-toilet-paper-of-all-things-is/article_277db5d4-6255-11ea-a9a5-cb183ea659db.html
That was interesting. Still didn't answer the question of why toilet paper. This is not a new thing as those of us who live in the frozen north know well.
I just figure it's one of those things that separates us from the animals. I think somebody else mentioned that early on in the thread... it's the mark of civilized society.
I want the things they have at the hospital for after you give birth (water wands?)! Is that similar to how a bidet works?
Corncobs baffle me... who first looked at those and thought, "You know what that would be good for?"
Someone with an itch...5 -
I am not a high-risk person, but I appreciated this sentiment:
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my dad in the last year has gotten pretty anti-social, not desiring to go out anywhere and staying home to work in his woodshop or read. While I worry about his mental state (he has depression problems, so this isolating isn't a good sign), this attitude had actually put him in pretty good practice if quarantine measures must be taken in our community.
Speaking of our community - I live in a small, small rural town. My hometown had 942 people in it in 2010; I'm sure that number is down now. My town is mostly residential with a Family Dollar and a Dollar General and that's about it. A slightly larger town, with maybe 1200 people tops, is about 8 miles away, and this is where the local Krogers is located. There might be 30,000 people living in the 3 county radius around this town which use this grocery store - that's how rural this place is.
Also, there still has not been a confirmed case in WV as of yet. Yet when I was in that Krogers tonight to pick up some things I was needing, I walked by the toilet paper aisle and saw maybe 3 packages of the expensive Charmin. There were a few more in a couple of displays at the end of the aisle, but otherwise, the store had been wiped out of TP and paper towels *shakes head* I'm guessing if the local Krogers is out of TP, that probably means so are the Dollar General and Family Dollars, too. And it hasn't even gotten close to us yet!2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »
Where do bidets fall on the civilisation continuum? I'm thinking bidet > toilet paper > newspaper > corncobs (but really, isn't anything beyond poison oak/ivy/sumac greater than a corncob??)@earlnabby Having an issue isolating the quote, but your comment made me think of this:
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/the-psychology-behind-why-toilet-paper-of-all-things-is/article_277db5d4-6255-11ea-a9a5-cb183ea659db.html
That was interesting. Still didn't answer the question of why toilet paper. This is not a new thing as those of us who live in the frozen north know well.
I just figure it's one of those things that separates us from the animals. I think somebody else mentioned that early on in the thread... it's the mark of civilized society.
I want the things they have at the hospital for after you give birth (water wands?)! Is that similar to how a bidet works?
Corncobs baffle me... who first looked at those and thought, "You know what that would be good for?"
Someone with an itch...
well, if you've got a hemoroid.........2 -
I've been following this thread for a few days now and finally decided to post something. This is from on the ground here in So Cal. We have 2 children in CO and another one in San Francisco with their spouses and children. Normally I spend a lot of time in both places. Hubby and I are almost 72 and 70 respectively and I'm probably the healthiest of the two of us.
Here I am with both an expected, and what I hoped would be an unannounced, report from here in So CA. Our daughter in SF who is at risk for COVID-19 because of her lung issues (asthma, bronchitis and pneumonia since 2) who is now 40, is running a fever and has a cough. She's been working from home since Tuesday, as has her legally blind lawyer husband. They both work in the public sector working with folks with disabilities and the homeless as advocates.
Anywhoo, they are both in self isolation although so far my daughter is the only one sick and is hoping to be tested. They have Kaiser insurance and are waiting for an answer. We're sending them some supplies from here as even buying groceries and essentials is tough online for them right now. Lots of empty shelves and missing products online.
I want to go up there to help but I can't leave my husband who has his own health issues even though we feel safe here in our little environment. We work from home and are able to keep a low profile regarding spreading germs.
Hoping you all stay safe and healthy and remember that you may be helping someone else even if you have no symptoms!34 -
Panic buying has set in here (eastern panhandle of WV) - the small, quiet grocery store I frequent was INSANE at 3:00 this afternoon and things like bread were all but cleared out. Dog food was sold out. There were a couple clusters of people chatting as I walked by and the topic for all was CV. The $32 packs of TP at Home Depot we’re leaving with nearly every person I passed...
Channeling my past cloth diapering days (all 4 children, mostly with the “old fashioned” flats because we couldn’t afford the newer, fancier types), and at the recommendation of my husband, I just ordered 10 dozen flannel wipes to have, just in case. I have bleach for washing purposes.
We were starting the planning process for summer trips and activities... not sure now what to do! I can get tickets for Hershey Park through a fundraiser for less than half the regular price, but still not cheap.3 -
Some places here are low on TP, but mainly we just seem to have absolutely no hand sanitizer.
We have 32 confirmed cases in the state (but really they are just about all in my metro area), but that number is meaningless as there's such a shortage of tests so most who could be infected aren't able to be tested.5 -
I am not a high-risk person, but I appreciated this sentiment:
On paper, I'm considered a high risk patient and I still agree with the point. Some misunderstand and incorrectly think I'm saying that old people and those of us with chronic illness are "expendable." I'm not of that opinion at all, but I do know that the same group of us is at higher risk of pretty much every virus going around. That is just part of life. And we skew the overall mortality rate higher. Just like colds, just like influenza, just like norovirus, and so on...5
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