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DecadeDuchess wrote: »I went to YouTube, to just watch my normal stuff but along the side was drone footage, of empty cities worldwide & it makes me wonder when this' over, how empty they'll still be because of the death toll, via this.
And not just the death of people. So many small businesses aren't going to make it through this, even with stimulus/bailout money. As someone who generally shops and eats at local places, I wonder what it's going to be like without those places once this starts to turn around.
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Plus the permanent disability, of previously able to work survivors & people that didn't wanna retire even though they've been eligible now're choosing to, to preserve their health.2 -
@Chef_Barbell I am so sorry to hear that. My son was told this morning after Cuomo's speech that his boss considers him "essential" and to keep reporting to the client's location ( An international Hotel Chain). My son is a project management consulting for a company that does a lot of large real estate construction projects.
LA is supposedly shutting down construction so I am shocked that hotels etc get to keep going as "essential". I could see infrastructure but hotels?
So he will keep going and getting exposed. I just worry that if he is one of the unlucky ones that needs medical intervention he will be *kitten*-out-of-luck as they say. And no one there to get him what he needs to be sick at home.
Stressed for him and all the workers and healthcare employees in NYC.7 -
@Chef_Barbell I am so sorry to hear that. My son was told this morning after Cuomo's speech that his boss considers him "essential" and to keep reporting to the client's location ( An international Hotel Chain). My son is a project management consulting for a company that does a lot of large real estate construction projects.
LA is supposedly shutting down construction so I am shocked that hotels etc get to keep going as "essential". I could see infrastructure but hotels?
So he will keep going and getting exposed. I just worry that if he is one of the unlucky ones that needs medical intervention he will be *kitten*-out-of-luck as they say. And no one there to get him what he needs to be sick at home.
Stressed for him and all the workers and healthcare employees in NYC.
My husband is a union electrician. He caught the virus. He was working on a site building a garage and soccer field, because that is so super essential now. 🙄🤦🏼♀️There are no tests for healthy, young people. We now have to self quarantine for at least 14 days.
NYC is a hot mess, people don't want to listen and stay home. The trains are still running. Nothing is open. The mayor and the governor are never on the same page. Pure chaos.26 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »@Chef_Barbell I am so sorry to hear that. My son was told this morning after Cuomo's speech that his boss considers him "essential" and to keep reporting to the client's location ( An international Hotel Chain). My son is a project management consulting for a company that does a lot of large real estate construction projects.
LA is supposedly shutting down construction so I am shocked that hotels etc get to keep going as "essential". I could see infrastructure but hotels?
So he will keep going and getting exposed. I just worry that if he is one of the unlucky ones that needs medical intervention he will be *kitten*-out-of-luck as they say. And no one there to get him what he needs to be sick at home.
Stressed for him and all the workers and healthcare employees in NYC.
My husband is a union electrician. He caught the virus. He was working on a site building a garage and soccer field, because that is so super essential now. 🙄🤦🏼♀️There are no tests for healthy, young people. We now have to self quarantine for at least 14 days.
NYC is a hot mess, people don't want to listen and stay home. The trains are still running. Nothing is open. The mayor and the governor are never on the same page. Pure chaos.
I hope you both stay safe and he recovers quickly.
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London has not gone into lockdown yet, but cafes, restaurants, gyms, bars, theatres were told not to re-open after tonight.
Potatoes are starting to get scarce in my bit of central London. Hubby managed to find some at the Bangladeshi supermarket. At least the ethnic grocers are still well stocked.
One of the things I bought at my local meat market on Monday was potatoes (it seemed normal, stores here in general are getting back to normal although we are expecting a shelter in place order any day so BestBuy and similar stores and liquor stores have been nuts and I'm sure Costco has been).2 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »@Chef_Barbell I am so sorry to hear that. My son was told this morning after Cuomo's speech that his boss considers him "essential" and to keep reporting to the client's location ( An international Hotel Chain). My son is a project management consulting for a company that does a lot of large real estate construction projects.
LA is supposedly shutting down construction so I am shocked that hotels etc get to keep going as "essential". I could see infrastructure but hotels?
So he will keep going and getting exposed. I just worry that if he is one of the unlucky ones that needs medical intervention he will be *kitten*-out-of-luck as they say. And no one there to get him what he needs to be sick at home.
Stressed for him and all the workers and healthcare employees in NYC.
My husband is a union electrician. He caught the virus. He was working on a site building a garage and soccer field, because that is so super essential now. 🙄🤦🏼♀️There are no tests for healthy, young people. We now have to self quarantine for at least 14 days.
NYC is a hot mess, people don't want to listen and stay home. The trains are still running. Nothing is open. The mayor and the governor are never on the same page. Pure chaos.
I hope you both stay safe and he recovers quickly.
Thank you... so sad we have come to a time where you have to choose to provide for your family or protect your/their health.5 -
Hey all —- hope everyone is safe and healthy.
I haven’t posted on this thread in over 2-3 weeks. In that time...so much has changed.
We only had 1 case in NYC at that time. Now there are over 5000. I work in the theatre industry. Everything is closed. My family owns bars in Manhattan -those are closed too. My family splits our time between NY and Italy since I’m married to an Italian citizen. We have someone watching our house and building in Rome. We are supposed to be there next week - not happening. Our family there is doing the best they can. My husbands aunt says the last time she couldn’t go grocery shopping - was WW2. That really hit home. ...and then I see photos of spring breakers on tv and I wonder why the realities are so different. Is it based on location in the world? It must be. Will people only take it seriously when it’s in their backyard?
Everyday I’m worried that the elders in our family will catch this disease. I await a return to normal... but I think that time is long gone. I think those in the epicenters will forever be changed by this. At least...that’s how I feel.
My Neighbors in Rome and friends in Venice send me photos ...empty streets and empty courtyards. (We were in Venice a week before the outbreak.) NYC looks like this now too. The theatres thought they would make a comeback in mid April / but I don’t see how that is possible.
For weeks - I kept reading esp on MFP - it’s just like the flu and everyone is overreacting, just wash your hands. Except - many of our industries are closed, people are out of work, Many Americans homebound — would we suffer such an economic breakdown for a disease just like the flu? Or the people who say - don’t panic it’s just an elderly affliction or for people with underlying illnesses? But don’t we all have family members who are in these categories?
I’m wondering - when everyone thinks we will return to days when we don’t social distance and we can have family gatherings without fear of illness. I’m hoping it’s sooner than I think.
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Thought I'd post something positive this morning as a small counterpoint to the crushing onslaught of the sad and the negative.
A 90 year old woman who contacted the virus at the Life Care Center in Seattle is recovering. 😊
https://www.newson6.com/story/41922045/90yearold-woman-who-contracted-coronavirus-at-seattle-senior-care-facility-is-now-recovering24 -
@Safari_Gal_ You have read my mind for the past week. Things have changed so much here and I don't even know how we go back to the way things were.
We have over 5000 cases and 30 deaths just in the city alone. The supermarkets are sparingly stocked. The city looks so desolate. And so many people are out of work.5 -
@Chef_Barbell I am so sorry to hear that. My son was told this morning after Cuomo's speech that his boss considers him "essential" and to keep reporting to the client's location ( An international Hotel Chain). My son is a project management consulting for a company that does a lot of large real estate construction projects.
LA is supposedly shutting down construction so I am shocked that hotels etc get to keep going as "essential". I could see infrastructure but hotels?
So he will keep going and getting exposed. I just worry that if he is one of the unlucky ones that needs medical intervention he will be *kitten*-out-of-luck as they say. And no one there to get him what he needs to be sick at home.
Stressed for him and all the workers and healthcare employees in NYC.
Whoa now. As I understand it "essential" means these places and people will be allowed to work not that they have to work. My son is a grocery store cashier, as a front line food supply worker his work is considered essential, but he and everyone he works with is free to take leave-of-absence with a guarantee of getting his job back later. No one is, or should be, forced to work during this time if they choose not to take the risk and that includes medical personnel.3 -
Slowfaster wrote: »@Chef_Barbell I am so sorry to hear that. My son was told this morning after Cuomo's speech that his boss considers him "essential" and to keep reporting to the client's location ( An international Hotel Chain). My son is a project management consulting for a company that does a lot of large real estate construction projects.
LA is supposedly shutting down construction so I am shocked that hotels etc get to keep going as "essential". I could see infrastructure but hotels?
So he will keep going and getting exposed. I just worry that if he is one of the unlucky ones that needs medical intervention he will be *kitten*-out-of-luck as they say. And no one there to get him what he needs to be sick at home.
Stressed for him and all the workers and healthcare employees in NYC.
Whoa now. As I understand it "essential" means these places and people will be allowed to work not that they have to work. My son is a grocery store cashier, as a front line food supply worker his work is considered essential, but he and everyone he works with is free to take leave-of-absence with a guarantee of getting his job back later. No one is, or should be, forced to work during this time if they choose not to take the risk and that includes medical personnel.
And how does one pay the bills? 🤔7 -
My local paper had an article on one of the first people to test positive for Covid-19 here in Florida. Her quarantine ended as all these new measures are being put in place. She shared a log of her experience with the virus by daily breakdown of symptoms. I've seen a few articles where people have come forward about testing positive and sharing their experience/symptoms with the virus.
It's a little weird at work for me. We are already down to just the "essential" people being at work - I believe there's a total of 15 of us in the building now - and yet the days feel like the old normal ones. Except for the anxiety, awareness of distancing, and extra sanitizing measures.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »New Mexico ordered "shelter in place" last night for the entire state. All restaurants and bars are closed except for delivery or pickup. All gyms and other entertainment and recreational facilities are closed. Hotels and such are ordered to remain at half capacity.
Is it really "shelter in place" when non essential businesses aren't ordered to close, though? Just limit as much as possible?
That's why I put it in quotes. None of these orders coming from any of these states are true shelter in place measures. Shelter in place literally means do not leave your home...this terminology was used when I lived in Nebraska and we would get tornado warnings and told to shelter in place because going outside could mean imminent death. If it was truly shelter in place, everything would be off the table regardless of whether or not they are essential.6 -
Slowfaster wrote: »@Chef_Barbell I am so sorry to hear that. My son was told this morning after Cuomo's speech that his boss considers him "essential" and to keep reporting to the client's location ( An international Hotel Chain). My son is a project management consulting for a company that does a lot of large real estate construction projects.
LA is supposedly shutting down construction so I am shocked that hotels etc get to keep going as "essential". I could see infrastructure but hotels?
So he will keep going and getting exposed. I just worry that if he is one of the unlucky ones that needs medical intervention he will be *kitten*-out-of-luck as they say. And no one there to get him what he needs to be sick at home.
Stressed for him and all the workers and healthcare employees in NYC.
Whoa now. As I understand it "essential" means these places and people will be allowed to work not that they have to work. My son is a grocery store cashier, as a front line food supply worker his work is considered essential, but he and everyone he works with is free to take leave-of-absence with a guarantee of getting his job back later. No one is, or should be, forced to work during this time if they choose not to take the risk and that includes medical personnel.
My understanding is that this will be up to the employer. If you're *essential* and your business is allowed to stay open and your employer wants to hold you accountable for not coming to work, they are free to do that.3 -
I work for a manufacturing plant and it's still open. (we don't make anything life essential) All of us "non essential" employees are working from home but the plant workers, and those who directly support them, are still working. Which they seem like they have the highest risk since there's so many of them?!
The daycares are not closed but I decided to keep my kids home anyway. It's not as bad as I thought although I'm definitely not as productive. My 8 month old is super needy.6 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Slowfaster wrote: »@Chef_Barbell I am so sorry to hear that. My son was told this morning after Cuomo's speech that his boss considers him "essential" and to keep reporting to the client's location ( An international Hotel Chain). My son is a project management consulting for a company that does a lot of large real estate construction projects.
LA is supposedly shutting down construction so I am shocked that hotels etc get to keep going as "essential". I could see infrastructure but hotels?
So he will keep going and getting exposed. I just worry that if he is one of the unlucky ones that needs medical intervention he will be *kitten*-out-of-luck as they say. And no one there to get him what he needs to be sick at home.
Stressed for him and all the workers and healthcare employees in NYC.
Whoa now. As I understand it "essential" means these places and people will be allowed to work not that they have to work. My son is a grocery store cashier, as a front line food supply worker his work is considered essential, but he and everyone he works with is free to take leave-of-absence with a guarantee of getting his job back later. No one is, or should be, forced to work during this time if they choose not to take the risk and that includes medical personnel.
And how does one pay the bills? 🤔
That's a separate issue from whether you can be forced to work or not. All this varies from state to state. Texas employers can fire you for not coming in. I know Walmart (where my son works) will not.
My state, Ohio, has said people will be allowed to put off paying utilities for the next few months, so you wont have your heat or water cut off right away. Ohio has also said the state will pay for childcare for "essential" workers. I doubt if your car would be repossessed or your house foreclosed on while this is going on. Same for rent. It's not to your landlord's advantage to evict you during a recession when he may not be able to find a new tenant.
Each person has to decide for themselves based on their financial situation and health risks. My son will probably quit his job soon because he lives with me and my husband and we are both at very high risk if we get the virus.
But if it's possible to quit and squeak by for the next few months I would do it. You can't pay your bills if you're dead.
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Well it’s official, the world is on fire - my county went from 3, to 10, to 30 in two days. Total number of tests which have been completed? 41. So 75% of local tests so far have been positive.
I thought I would share the following information shared by the Tennessee Department of Health, in case there are still young people out there thinking they don’t need to worry about this.
Ages that have been reported for confirmed patients:
10 years old or younger: 3
Between 11 and 20 years old: 12
Between 21 and 30 years old: 72
Between 41 and 50 years old: 47
Between 51 and 60 years old: 26
Between 61 and 70 years old: 16
Between 71 and 80 years old: 13
At least 80 years old: 4
So the majority of cases in Tennessee are in young people. Stay home!!!!!!
In other news, the schools are closed and the free student meals which were being dropped off for those who qualify for the free lunch program have been ended, because the head nutritionist preparing the food is positive for Coronavirus. So, all the school children first, have been eating Virus Meals for who knows how long, and second, will have to do without now. I guess we’ll find out whether the experts who say you are unlikely to catch the virus through food delivery were right.8 -
rheddmobile wrote: »Well it’s official, the world is on fire - my county went from 3, to 10, to 30 in two days. Total number of tests which have been completed? 41. So 75% of local tests so far have been positive.
I thought I would share the following information shared by the Tennessee Department of Health, in case there are still young people out there thinking they don’t need to worry about this.
Ages that have been reported for confirmed patients:
10 years old or younger: 3
Between 11 and 20 years old: 12
Between 21 and 30 years old: 72
Between 41 and 50 years old: 47
Between 51 and 60 years old: 26
Between 61 and 70 years old: 16
Between 71 and 80 years old: 13
At least 80 years old: 4
So the majority of cases in Tennessee are in young people. Stay home!!!!!!
In other news, the schools are closed and the free student meals which were being dropped off for those who qualify for the free lunch program have been ended, because the head nutritionist preparing the food is positive for Coronavirus. So, all the school children first, have been eating Virus Meals for who knows how long, and second, will have to do without now. I guess we’ll find out whether the experts who say you are unlikely to catch the virus through food delivery were right.
Our percentage of people tested being positive is going to be skewed because currently only those showing symptoms are being tested.7 -
I work for a manufacturing plant and it's still open. (we don't make anything life essential) All of us "non essential" employees are working from home but the plant workers, and those who directly support them, are still working. Which they seem like they have the highest risk since there's so many of them?!
The daycares are not closed but I decided to keep my kids home anyway. It's not as bad as I thought although I'm definitely not as productive. My 8 month old is super needy.
If the plant isn't allowed to work, maybe someone should report it.1
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